When you're talking about power around the 16:00 mark, there's some misinformation here. Yes USB is 5V but volts is not power. Power (Watts) is Volts * Amps. 5V at the current that USB can provide is plenty to drive a few line-level channels. I am an electronics engineer, and a SW engineer that worked on USB devices. If you want any clarification or further explanation, just ask. Edit: I apologise, I think the word 'misinformation' is too strong, replace with 'inaccuracy' or 'misunderstanding' maybe.
Hey! Thx for adding on the comment. I know my comment was vague, but I tried to make it vague enough, I agree with you. It's already a 40 min video with no deep engineering content. Headphones, speakers and microphones will suffer when there's little to feed from on that I think we can agree! I'll pin your comment. Thx ❣️ [Edit] Probably there my english is missing something, but I just watched again that fragment. As far as I remember when you "power something" you are turning it on. I'm not really talking about specific units, although the comment on 5V is close enough to maybe be understood by that. Lmk if I'm missing something in my translation to english. :)
I think you misunderstood something about thunderbolt. => it's an active standard that is being used and very useful. What you were thinking about was Thunderbolt 2, which is on the way out, but Thunderbolt 3 and 4 use the usb c plug and are superior to usb c. It's a bit confusing with all the standards, but for professional use, I would rather have a thunderbolt connection than a USB one.
This an importante clarification. I have very clear the data options, but I probably should have shown the type of connector I want to stay completely away from, that Thunderbolt squared one. Despite that, I think the average user doesn'know USB C is Thunderbolt ;) that's why I went that way. Thx for watching.
Have you watched the RME video about usb? It's quite convincing about the superiority of usb 2 in most, not all(!), cases. (Maybe given the drivers are good...)
@@waldemarheart2463 I've read their article about it and I agree, USB2 is for most cases more than enough. My point was not to say it's bad, but that many of the higher end interfaces use thunderbolt and by leaving them out by ignoring thunderbolt in this video, people miss out on some interfaces that might be better suited for them, than the ones that have the "only" USB2.
@@jonas.stolle Yes sure, would be great to see more Thunderbolt interfaces in the video, I didn't mean to disagree with that point! I only wanted to question that thunderbolt is more professional for Audio than USB. I just find it remarkable that a highly professional brand like RME states that "superb audio quality and low latency are independent from the chosen connector" and prefers USB over Thunderbolt for most applications because it's "inexpensive, widely accepted, has enough bandwidth and will be supported for years to come". Side note: over the last year I had a Thunderbold interface from Antelope. Bad drivers I think: Thunderbolt wasn't recognized anymore after half a year, they couldn't solve it, had to switch to the USB port...
I have gone thru at leat 4 from cheap to mixer to finally be happy with mine, Presonous AR12, tho they did release some new models that would have suited me too, maybe for a next update
Or you just buy an Arturia 16RIG and get all of your questions covered in one piece. By acquiring each type of hardware piece by piece in your setup, you can effectively manage the grow against your budget. But with Focusrite, you'll have to get everything powered at all time. Sometimes, even with the computer on (found out that the hard way, bye focusrite). The recent hardwares allow both Dawless and assisted workflows. A game changer.
Some hardwares remember the routing they were last set to. Some don't, I saw the 16 Rig, but that's a bigger buy. Despite me loving Arturia I have never had the chance to test their interfaces properly.
stay away from Audient. the volume knob on mine got faulty not long after i bought it. the volume goes up by just touching the knob. they offered repairing but i had to send it and left me with no audio interface for two weeks or so.
When you're talking about power around the 16:00 mark, there's some misinformation here. Yes USB is 5V but volts is not power. Power (Watts) is Volts * Amps. 5V at the current that USB can provide is plenty to drive a few line-level channels. I am an electronics engineer, and a SW engineer that worked on USB devices. If you want any clarification or further explanation, just ask.
Edit: I apologise, I think the word 'misinformation' is too strong, replace with 'inaccuracy' or 'misunderstanding' maybe.
Hey! Thx for adding on the comment. I know my comment was vague, but I tried to make it vague enough, I agree with you. It's already a 40 min video with no deep engineering content. Headphones, speakers and microphones will suffer when there's little to feed from on that I think we can agree! I'll pin your comment. Thx ❣️
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Probably there my english is missing something, but I just watched again that fragment. As far as I remember when you "power something" you are turning it on. I'm not really talking about specific units, although the comment on 5V is close enough to maybe be understood by that. Lmk if I'm missing something in my translation to english. :)
I think you misunderstood something about thunderbolt. => it's an active standard that is being used and very useful. What you were thinking about was Thunderbolt 2, which is on the way out, but Thunderbolt 3 and 4 use the usb c plug and are superior to usb c. It's a bit confusing with all the standards, but for professional use, I would rather have a thunderbolt connection than a USB one.
This an importante clarification. I have very clear the data options, but I probably should have shown the type of connector I want to stay completely away from, that Thunderbolt squared one. Despite that, I think the average user doesn'know USB C is Thunderbolt ;) that's why I went that way. Thx for watching.
Have you watched the RME video about usb? It's quite convincing about the superiority of usb 2 in most, not all(!), cases.
(Maybe given the drivers are good...)
@@waldemarheart2463 I have to check it out, but honestly for audio USB 2 is already a lot. I'll come back after watching it.
@@waldemarheart2463 I've read their article about it and I agree, USB2 is for most cases more than enough. My point was not to say it's bad, but that many of the higher end interfaces use thunderbolt and by leaving them out by ignoring thunderbolt in this video, people miss out on some interfaces that might be better suited for them, than the ones that have the "only" USB2.
@@jonas.stolle Yes sure, would be great to see more Thunderbolt interfaces in the video, I didn't mean to disagree with that point!
I only wanted to question that thunderbolt is more professional for Audio than USB.
I just find it remarkable that a highly professional brand like RME states that "superb audio quality and low latency are independent from the chosen connector" and prefers USB over Thunderbolt for most applications because it's "inexpensive, widely accepted, has enough bandwidth and will be supported for years to come".
Side note: over the last year I had a Thunderbold interface from Antelope. Bad drivers I think: Thunderbolt wasn't recognized anymore after half a year, they couldn't solve it, had to switch to the USB port...
Very informative, thanks!
Very useful. Thanks.
I have gone thru at leat 4 from cheap to mixer to finally be happy with mine, Presonous AR12, tho they did release some new models that would have suited me too, maybe for a next update
Or you just buy an Arturia 16RIG and get all of your questions covered in one piece.
By acquiring each type of hardware piece by piece in your setup, you can effectively manage the grow against your budget.
But with Focusrite, you'll have to get everything powered at all time. Sometimes, even with the computer on (found out that the hard way, bye focusrite).
The recent hardwares allow both Dawless and assisted workflows. A game changer.
Some hardwares remember the routing they were last set to. Some don't, I saw the 16 Rig, but that's a bigger buy. Despite me loving Arturia I have never had the chance to test their interfaces properly.
Veeery Niiice!
stay away from Audient. the volume knob on mine got faulty not long after i bought it. the volume goes up by just touching the knob. they offered repairing but i had to send it and left me with no audio interface for two weeks or so.
I'm sorry yours was faulty, but they did offer a solution. Many people don't get support at all. 2 weeks isn't that long, did you take the offer?