Very nice Graham, ended up buying a moonlight box late last year from your recommendation on another video. Can say I'm very impressed with it, no dust at all. Might be a bit pricey but poor man pays twice, glad you were able to share this info with everyone.
@@great_offroad_adventures yes 100%. From what I've seen, unfortunately half the issue is purely bad practices...seals folded over, cheaper non-oem filters, incorrectly maintained oiled filters. Then the other half is warping of the plastic box due to heat. Either way glad there's a trusted solution for it.
With the Moonlight airbox it concerns with the lack of wing nut fasteners on all but one edge. Where it pushes into the brackets at the back of it, how does it tension the filter seal?
Picked up my cruiser yesterday after waiting just over 8 months for a new motor and fitting. Did the same as you Graham and replaced everything including every hose etc. just waiting on the Moonlight air box as no way I want to part with any more money. Considering your costs 2+ years ago now mine went to $34k. Definitely a keeper after that hit and only 154k on the odo. Keep safe out there.
Cyclonic pre-filter can take up to 85% of the dust out. Ram intakes have been shown to struggle with dust and water. Check what all earthmoving equipment designers and operators use. Australia would also have one or two laboratories that will be able to give you good scientific comparisons of filters etc against industry standards. Tuff luck, but doing changes to a vehicle is always a risk of getting the engineering wrong and the salesperson / engineer is not paying the for the risk, so good knowledge / experience is valuable - thanks for sharing.
I can't believe that Toyota hasn't modified the airbox on the 300. There are literally hundreds of people on YT complaining about dusting issues on LC 200s. Donaldson has a nice looking filter housing too, with a really big oval shaped element. Did you fit an auxiliary transmission oil cooler to your truck? I think that's a worthwhile mod for towing too.
One of the first things I did was to put a Moonlight Airbox in. I was shocked at seeing the condition of the inlet tract after purchasing my 2nd hand 200.
I purchased a new 2020 model VX and installed the Moonlight airbox straight away because I had a 76 series previously and noticed the standard airbox let dust through. I didn't want to risk dusting the new 200. Travelled along the Gunbarrel hwy, including the abandoned section last year in convoy and as you showed in your video no dust at all on the clean side.
Great feedback, thanks for sharing your success story as well….I think all the evidence in overwhelming and compelling….Toyota dropped the ball and Moonlight (plus a few others) have picked it up, for those serious about offroading and protecting their vehicle…..it’s a no brainer really.
Hi Graham, great video, was wondering about your fuel economy figures, I also have a 200 all standard configuration with no mods. What figures you get say vehicle empty plus towing your camper (what weight camper also) cheers, look forward to seeing more vids
Hey Lee. Around town to work and back around 13.5L/100km (our 200 is obviously far from stock), towing the camper we average 17-18L/100km and that’s cruising at 100kph it can go up to 20 if in hills or with a headwind.
Remap/ Dyno Tune mean the samething…I’ll try and explain. Remap - is the new “map” / file/ tune that your ECU now uses to run/ control the engine. Dyno - is the actual tool used to measure, power, torque, AFR (air fuel ratio), boost, speed all that. Dyno Tune - is the process of putting the car on the dyno and running it standard, observing things like AFR level, boost level, etc…..then a new tune/ map/ file is put into the ECU and it is run on the dyno again, differences are observed and you continue making tweaks/ changes and refinements until a fine tune/ file/ map is completed and then left in the car as its new tune or ECU remap. Obviously in that process it’s very important the person who is doing the tuning, understands what adjustments to make & how to keep everything safe, that’s why it’s important the tuning is done on a dyno because the tuner can observe and measure the differences as they go…..you don’t want a tune loaded off a laptop in a carport and sent on your way….because how do you know it’s safe, how do you know it’s been checked on a dyno to ensure it best suits you car. Tuning is an area where you want to ensure your using someone reputable, with alot of experience and that knows what they are doing and can explain the changes they are making to you.
Toyota have dropped the ball a bit lately i would have thought having an airbox that seals properly would have been a priority? Apparently not though. :)
I believe you did the right thing Graham. I love my 200 too. Question, does the moonlight fab box still fit the standard filter? I have 2 K&Ns and love them ( some people disagree lol ) Cheers Steve
No it won’t take a standard filter and having seen some people run a standard filter in a steel box, it’s still seen dust get through, hence why I went with a box that takes a different filter. So it takes a duramax 6.6L filter, and as the yank tanks become more popular, these filters will become easier and easier to get whilst travelling all that being said, I start a trip with a fresh one and take 2x new ones with me as well.
@@great_offroad_adventures well to be fair it's not a lesson a 200 series owner should have to learn. Clearly not a premium airbox from factory, dropped quality on such a vital component for an Australian climate. Shocking how distorted and out of shape they can get. New box surely works a treat 👍
Thanks mate, we use the Wix 46678 filters - it’s what Moonlight supply and as they are local to me it’s very easy to keep getting them….and they work obviously.
Any mechanic or 4WD shop can, it is very very simple - the DIY kit you get from Moonlight has very detailed instruction that you’ll be able to follow yourself. I will even extend an offer to install it for you.
Interestingly I thought to myself during your engine replacement video when you said they wouldn’t warrant the new engine if you changed the airbox that I would’ve changed it anyway and not told anyone….
Still didn’t resolve the warped airbox issues I had the plastic Toyota panel airbox……best things they could of done would of been to retain the circular airbox…..but nope and the 300 is the same, luckily the aftermarket can fill the void and fix the issues.
I’ll take responsibility for modifications when Toyota take responsibility for their F*** ups….like an airfilter assembly that doesn’t give the engine clean air. Does that sound fair?
Well said! I’m another one that has a dusted 200. 150k, barely been on a dirt road and have been waiting 6 months for the new engine that arrived last week. Might have to rethink my newly bought S/S PatrolDocta air box. I’ll use it and monitor it but any sign of dust it will come out. You still think the genuine air filters pass dust?
@@rezuuz I ended up not using it and bought a Moonlight box using Wix filters. I still had nightmares from genuine filters and as PatrolDocta uses genuine decided not to use it and sold it on. Very, very happy with the Moonlight/Wix combination and not the slightest sign of dust on the clean side in just over 20k kilometres.
Great video. I checked out these airboxes on their website. Apparently it is not compatible with TJM snorkels which I have and there was not mention in your video of this. Perhaps an edit to mention this may be appropriate before someone orders one and it wont fit.
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Well done mate - Make more of this type of videos.. Its good to watch videos like - maintenance and servicing.
2yrs??? gone pretty quickly from my perspective .. great vid mate
Very nice Graham, ended up buying a moonlight box late last year from your recommendation on another video. Can say I'm very impressed with it, no dust at all. Might be a bit pricey but poor man pays twice, glad you were able to share this info with everyone.
Absolutely mate - it’s pretty compelling story when you see what we have put it through and how it has worked perfectly!!!
@@great_offroad_adventures yes 100%. From what I've seen, unfortunately half the issue is purely bad practices...seals folded over, cheaper non-oem filters, incorrectly maintained oiled filters. Then the other half is warping of the plastic box due to heat. Either way glad there's a trusted solution for it.
Agree completely have been running moonlight in our 200 for a couple of year now no dust on inlet side great airbox
Hi mate can you please send the company who did the stock turbo upgrade and the one who tune your cruiser. Thanks
Yea I'm keen for some more info on this aswell. Chasing those torque figures.
Great video Graham. Definitely worth doing.
thank you for detailed video
With the Moonlight airbox it concerns with the lack of wing nut fasteners on all but one edge. Where it pushes into the brackets at the back of it, how does it tension the filter seal?
Picked up my cruiser yesterday after waiting just over 8 months for a new motor and fitting. Did the same as you Graham and replaced everything including every hose etc. just waiting on the Moonlight air box as no way I want to part with any more money. Considering your costs 2+ years ago now mine went to $34k. Definitely a keeper after that hit and only 154k on the odo. Keep safe out there.
Great information especially for those who have just brought a 200/about to buy one or who already has one.
That’s why I’ve shared this story - to help out other people.
One of the best videos you’ve produced in my opinion Graham. Short, sharp and to the point. Great job. Sincere thanks for the information.
Thanks for the feedback mate - I’m glad you liked it.
Thx for the video Graham. Great info'. So I missed the first episodes. Did the original engine fail hence re-build ????
Cyclonic pre-filter can take up to 85% of the dust out. Ram intakes have been shown to struggle with dust and water. Check what all earthmoving equipment designers and operators use. Australia would also have one or two laboratories that will be able to give you good scientific comparisons of filters etc against industry standards. Tuff luck, but doing changes to a vehicle is always a risk of getting the engineering wrong and the salesperson / engineer is not paying the for the risk, so good knowledge / experience is valuable - thanks for sharing.
I can't believe that Toyota hasn't modified the airbox on the 300. There are literally hundreds of people on YT complaining about dusting issues on LC 200s. Donaldson has a nice looking filter housing too, with a really big oval shaped element. Did you fit an auxiliary transmission oil cooler to your truck? I think that's a worthwhile mod for towing too.
One of the first things I did was to put a Moonlight Airbox in. I was shocked at seeing the condition of the inlet tract after purchasing my 2nd hand 200.
Good move - I wish I had of known more and done more research when I first got my 200.
I purchased a new 2020 model VX and installed the Moonlight airbox straight away because I had a 76 series previously and noticed the standard airbox let dust through. I didn't want to risk dusting the new 200. Travelled along the Gunbarrel hwy, including the abandoned section last year in convoy and as you showed in your video no dust at all on the clean side.
Great feedback, thanks for sharing your success story as well….I think all the evidence in overwhelming and compelling….Toyota dropped the ball and Moonlight (plus a few others) have picked it up, for those serious about offroading and protecting their vehicle…..it’s a no brainer really.
That's great to hear about the moonlight airbox. I got one myself.
They also suck in alot of air and gives a noticeable turbo whistle.
Sure do sound good….airbox and exhaust system and the V8 cruiser has quite the enjoyable sound track
Hi Graham, great video, was wondering about your fuel economy figures, I also have a 200 all standard configuration with no mods. What figures you get say vehicle empty plus towing your camper (what weight camper also) cheers, look forward to seeing more vids
Hey Lee. Around town to work and back around 13.5L/100km (our 200 is obviously far from stock), towing the camper we average 17-18L/100km and that’s cruising at 100kph it can go up to 20 if in hills or with a headwind.
Nice video some good info, just wondering are you making that power from a dyno tune only or are you remapping it as well?
Thanks Ant.
Remap/ Dyno Tune mean the samething…I’ll try and explain.
Remap - is the new “map” / file/ tune that your ECU now uses to run/ control the engine.
Dyno - is the actual tool used to measure, power, torque, AFR (air fuel ratio), boost, speed all that.
Dyno Tune - is the process of putting the car on the dyno and running it standard, observing things like AFR level, boost level, etc…..then a new tune/ map/ file is put into the ECU and it is run on the dyno again, differences are observed and you continue making tweaks/ changes and refinements until a fine tune/ file/ map is completed and then left in the car as its new tune or ECU remap.
Obviously in that process it’s very important the person who is doing the tuning, understands what adjustments to make & how to keep everything safe, that’s why it’s important the tuning is done on a dyno because the tuner can observe and measure the differences as they go…..you don’t want a tune loaded off a laptop in a carport and sent on your way….because how do you know it’s safe, how do you know it’s been checked on a dyno to ensure it best suits you car.
Tuning is an area where you want to ensure your using someone reputable, with alot of experience and that knows what they are doing and can explain the changes they are making to you.
Toyota have dropped the ball a bit lately i would have thought having an airbox that seals properly would have been a priority? Apparently not though. :)
And it doesn’t look any better on the 300s either 😬
What and where is the secret plug to crank engine and not start to prime oil
Cheers
Under the intercooler - drivers side front corner, grey 4 pins & goes to the fuel pump in the valley from memory.
@@great_offroad_adventures Thanks bud.
Great videos. I feel your pain. I've just done what you've done. 😭😭😭
Good informative video mate.
Have you ever had issues with the steering rack? Cheers
Never had any issues luckily 🤞🏻 - long may it last too 😬.
I believe you did the right thing Graham. I love my 200 too. Question, does the moonlight fab box still fit the standard filter? I have 2 K&Ns and love them ( some people disagree lol ) Cheers Steve
No it won’t take a standard filter and having seen some people run a standard filter in a steel box, it’s still seen dust get through, hence why I went with a box that takes a different filter.
So it takes a duramax 6.6L filter, and as the yank tanks become more popular, these filters will become easier and easier to get whilst travelling all that being said, I start a trip with a fresh one and take 2x new ones with me as well.
@@great_offroad_adventures Thanks mate, good to know.
Great video, you've confirmed my decision on buying a moonlight box. Do you run a provent catch can with the new motor?
Not a provent but a Process West Seperator catch can
Not a provent but a Process West Seperator catch can
Air those new filters oil treated?
Knew you wouldn't use the standard box, kept it on the low. Nice video Graham. 👍
Yeah I think I explained my reasoning in the video…..but I ain’t no fool, not after the hard lesson we learnt the first time.
@@great_offroad_adventures well to be fair it's not a lesson a 200 series owner should have to learn. Clearly not a premium airbox from factory, dropped quality on such a vital component for an Australian climate. Shocking how distorted and out of shape they can get. New box surely works a treat 👍
Great video Graham, was wondering , were you using wix or Donaldson air filters ?
Thanks mate, we use the Wix 46678 filters - it’s what Moonlight supply and as they are local to me it’s very easy to keep getting them….and they work obviously.
@@great_offroad_adventures thanks for great video. who can install these filter boxes in perth?
Any mechanic or 4WD shop can, it is very very simple - the DIY kit you get from Moonlight has very detailed instruction that you’ll be able to follow yourself. I will even extend an offer to install it for you.
@@great_offroad_adventures ok thanks mate..love your info on videos on all topics .still remember the winch install and operation .
Interestingly I thought to myself during your engine replacement video when you said they wouldn’t warrant the new engine if you changed the airbox that I would’ve changed it anyway and not told anyone….
Hahaha - yep, great minds think alike 🤣
Lithium battery mods as welll possibly?
Yeah I’ll see what I can organise 😉
Air box might be great but dam added a cyclone pre cleaner 90% won't even make it to the filter.
I put a 350cfm Donaldson pre cleaner on top of my snorkel of my 80 series. Best $130 ever spent
Still didn’t resolve the warped airbox issues I had the plastic Toyota panel airbox……best things they could of done would of been to retain the circular airbox…..but nope and the 300 is the same, luckily the aftermarket can fill the void and fix the issues.
Graham dropped you a message via messenger. Cheers
I own the world's worst vehicle and even it comes with an air filter housing that isn't shit.
So if you had had an issue you were planning on bullshitting Toyota
If your going to do modifications take responsibility for them
I’ll take responsibility for modifications when Toyota take responsibility for their F*** ups….like an airfilter assembly that doesn’t give the engine clean air.
Does that sound fair?
Well said! I’m another one that has a dusted 200. 150k, barely been on a dirt road and have been waiting 6 months for the new engine that arrived last week. Might have to rethink my newly bought S/S PatrolDocta air box. I’ll use it and monitor it but any sign of dust it will come out. You still think the genuine air filters pass dust?
Yeah still not a fan on factory air filters…..give it a run & monitor it closely…but any sign of dust ingress and I’d be tossing it.
@@jeffdownunder4116what do you think of patroldocta airbox ??
@@rezuuz I ended up not using it and bought a Moonlight box using Wix filters. I still had nightmares from genuine filters and as PatrolDocta uses genuine decided not to use it and sold it on. Very, very happy with the Moonlight/Wix combination and not the slightest sign of dust on the clean side in just over 20k kilometres.
Great video. I checked out these airboxes on their website. Apparently it is not compatible with TJM snorkels which I have and there was not mention in your video of this. Perhaps an edit to mention this may be appropriate before someone orders one and it wont fit.