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I used to be a Right Winger. Ask me anything
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- Опубликовано: 15 апр 2022
- I have mentioned many times in my live streams that I used to be a Hindutva supporter and I turned away from it some years ago. But since many of you have followed me in the course of the last few months, I wanted to do a show where I unambiguously put out the truth about my past and how I got to the present. This will be that show.
Vote if you were also an ex-bhakt 👇:)
I was a hindu theist and then i turned to atheism
I was one, used to be a hardcore Modi supporter and a very God believing person. Things changed drastically in the COVID period when I got time to sit down and read some books.
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@@Nickel287 Me too... I stand for no Flag.
borned as buddhist luckiely , thanks to br ambedkar . rational since 10th standard
Me rajput hone par garv or ahankar ke karan itne salo tak satya or maanavta se door rahai ye soch kar mujhe ab dukh hota hai ki me un dino kitna bujhe dimag ka band dimag ka or murkh tha un dino ko soch hansi bhi aati hai dukh bhi hota hai
subah ka bhoola
I am too rajput
Same applies to maratha in Maharashtra. People just think it's a very proud thing to be born in a particular cast and consider other cast as useless.
Bhai ye problem bs tmhari nhi hai..Brhmn rajput yadav dalit har jaat ki hai..sbko apni jaat psand hai , kisi ko apni jaat nhi chorni!! Galti hmari bhi nhi hai shuru se aise he brainwash kia jata hai but ek time k baad education se dimag khulta hai aur pta chalta hai ki kya dhong hai ye jo ajtak chalaa aa rhaa politica nd power k liyeee!!! Hndu ko ek bhi hona hai lekin jatiwad bhi krna hai..Irony!!
I'm also from the Rajput community but idk why I never felt anything superior about it even when I used to be a hardcore hindutva supporter.
Watching this I realised that I myself have gone through something like this....I used to be a bjp supporter not because of the hindutva ideology but the development narrative....but then I realized I was so wrong....😢....the trigger point was not bad economic decisions but the violence against minorities and specially the lynchings that opened my eyes...
But what minorities I never seen parsi or Sikh getting screwed nor Jain ....now you talking about muslims so you need to understand that islamic ideology itself is agressive! Not promoting violence but bjp head leadership has nothing to do with it ....and hindutva means being inclusive
@@stefano1405 as per your logic Brahmins are a minority so are millionaires.
But there is a trick to not be a minority for anyone interested. Just be active on social media praising the supreme leader, your social media image will change from leftist/rice bag/terrorist to Bhatathiya Muslim/Christian.
You fool violence existed before bjp didn't do anything new. Lynching happened even in congress rule also Muslims aren't the minority they are the second majority.
You still are in an echo chamber few years down the line you will realize you still are wrong.
@@surfingguru5360 same can be said about any one in general, even you. Unless you are more wise.
Damn! Missed this one. As a former bhakt myself, i relate to this so hard. My change happened back in 2006-07 though via my exposure to Chomsky, Zinn etc (via arundhati roy).
Damn that's so early. I was 8 and used to bark at dogs at that age.
Arundhati Roy really....the one who we can see with Yasin mallik?
Of course exposure to Chomsky, Zinn, etc. automatically makes you smarter than your ancestors.
@@stefano1405 so? Subhash Chandra Bose was also seen with Hitler. But I can confirm he was not a Nazi lmao.
@@bredbutter yeah right but one issue never saw Bose defending hitler like arundhati did and one more thing the soon Bose realised Hitler's propaganda he left for Japan....and at that time no one knew what hitler is doing to jews till war ended....so can't get what's your point drawing equivalence to something clearly unrelated contextually!
Me khud right winger tha RSS me pracharak tak raha lekin pata nahi kaise hosh aaya or jaan na padhna shruti kiya dimag jaga to azad hua or aaj 18 saal baad yahan hun
I feel you beeing rajput
@@allinonetube3387 no now I am being human instead of rajput Or hindu
so, what is wrong with rss ?
@@DhruvSingh-ev8md That's exact Education
@@prabhanjanreddy3669either you don't know anything about them or you know everything and still think there is nothing wrong
As a former bhakt , I have no words... I am just ashamed... 😢
ashamed because you no longer are a bhakt ?
You could have easily ignored and not address it but for you to talk about it, accept it, takes lot of courage to say this out in public.
Massive Respect Vimoh!
Salute 🫡
You are beautiful 😻❤️
Vimoh had a rebirth in 2016. Old bhakt vimoh died and new viomh with beautiful mind was born.
Jai Bhim.
I m an optimistic nihilist, I believe we are not that important so what we did in past also doesn't matter anymore, even though that could be horrible, it doesn't matter anymore until you are doing right now is seriously good. I feel you are genuinely doing good, and that is all that matters right now.
you have really progressed from a right-wing bhakt to a person who makes good changes and is intelligent enough for such a good apology, without no expectation of forgiveness, that stands for a reason.
really proud of you bro.
Started following you after your video with Pranav and Abhinandan. You are so expressive and seem to be strongly drawn by the magnet of rationality. Just hope that you sufficiently ensure that in doing so, which sometimes could be a very difficult path, you aren't too harsh with yourself. Happy to know that you have all the intentions to continue expressing! ✨
I never cried this much watching any video, I am watching it and tears streaming down my face 😭 because I know what it feels like to be hated and I go through this on a daily basis,
while I understand that undoing the damage caused by words and actions takes time, and I appreciate your commitment to positive change. Your apology is a step toward healing, not only for yourself but also for those who have been hurt by your previous views. I don't believe in God but I want to tell you" God bless you "as a cultural expression"
Wow just wow.. ☺️
Great talk vimoh sir. I am not a social media person, deleted my Fb & Instagram in 2018. So didn't know much about you. Only using Twitter (sometimes once or twice a week) & RUclips mostly for educational purpose.
Now talking about myself. Being born & brought up in a muslim family. My parents never ever talked anything like hating others based on their religious belief, caste, financial status. I could say, I'm less religious & more of scientific & rational thinking.
Thanks to my family (specifically Dad & elder brother), few friends (offline & online) & people like you Vimoh sir.
Jab se maturity aayi hai, I always listen about my inner voice of being more humanitarian. Love being myself, different from all these Right & Left people.
Btw, a new subscriber 🥳🙏
From being called an Anti-Indian & Anti-Hindu by fellow countrymen to this link being forwarded by a Muslim Indian is quite a progression in my journey as an reluctant participant in political debates. So would like to congratulate on being honest and reasonable-it takes courage to do an episode like this; such episodes i believe contribute towards making India a better democracy. #ReasonOverRhetoric
I was really surprised to know that u too were once upon a time ur hardcore right winger. I have just started following u from a month ago . I have watched few of video I liked most of them .Even I was a big BJP supporter till 2020. My dad started opposing BJP from 2016 after demonetisation. But I actually liked dt step I thought it will end corruption. So I kept supporting them in 2019 as well despite my Dad several warnings. 🙁 but during 2019 Delhi university protest and caa protest made me clear wts BJP intention are. Now I am completely against them. I have decided I would never vote for BJP . And in 2023 Karnataka elections was the first time I voted for congress.
its never about the person , its about the ideology ! I mean if your ideology(hindutva) is about hurting the other and creating a "us vs them" narrative then it doen't matter what kind of development you bring on table, you are just being inhuman. So yeah !
👏👏👏kannadiga
I used to be bhakth till beginning of 2015.. My eyes opened when my friends brother challenged me if riots and lynchings of minorities that would happen the moment BJP takes over.
Me got moksha from andh bhakti in 2018 December after watching Godhra riot documentary and Babri Mosque demolition documentry form BHU documentary channel which is terminated now in India.
@@trb024 I got moksha from it when I came to know female foeticide and honor killings in Intercaste marriage happen sanskari land.
I thought only muslim do it, but I was wrong.
Riots and Lynchings happened in Congresses time too, Hindutva didn't become active in 2014 it was activated way before that so was islamic extremism.
Hello Vimoh. I discovered your channel recently, and I am pleased to have found your content. You are doing a very important job at this time. Your experience as a believer in the Hindu victimhood narrative, and your astute understanding of its flaws, is key to de-indoctrinating many thousands of other Hindus like yourself. I have been trying to communicate with bhakts for a long time, but you have the empathy and experience to be effective. Please continue your good work!
I don't think I will call you a Bhakt. A lot of us had hopes from BJP in 2014. You were just like many other rational people who vouched for BJP because they thought BJP is gonna bring positive changes given their promises. I have seen some of your old videos, but they don't divide people like others do. Having said that, I am glad, you are nowhere near to a Bhakt anymore. India needed this kind of atheism and today I don't think there is anyone who could explain atheism like you.
its okay vimoh, dont be so hard on yourself. change is the only constant and the ability to change is nothing short of bravado :)
Hey! I'm new here and agree with everything you said. I don't know if you have done this before, but could you please talk about how to talk to older people/our parents about this? I find it most difficult to talk to that group of people because they say these things have been happening for ages
I dont think u need to argue or talk to them or try to convince them ....no point in tht..please choose ur battle wisely
You can only do that when you’re financially and otherwise independent and your parents trust your decisions. It was a long journey for me but I have great relationship with both my parents individually. Ofcourse I had to put effort into it and by no means I am adarsh bachhi. Quite the opposite. But maybe because of my honesty and being able to respect boundaries I can gave political debates with them too. I have managed to keep our heads out of the whole right wing brain wash.
I personally have lost some close friends and even relatives. As I believe people who support genocide can’t be trusted to be good honest people with sane logical minds. If you can justify all the crimes, doesn’t care about what is really happening, you are insane. I happily dissociate with them. Because I can have people who has differences in opinion not differences in levels of humanity.
What BJP and every idiot supporter and every silent person is doing is they are damaging the country, they are letting the country be destroyed.
This is my puny role to speak up. Speak up to family, friends and others who I can trust not to shoot, rape or throw acid at my face for saying something unpleasant.
I should stand and speak out on every occasion to save my nation’s democracy, however I can. I believe if I don’t even do this smallest bit then I can’t really face myself.
I couldn’t sleep after watching the video of Manipur. The blatent garlanding of rapists and animals. Anyone who stands with these criminals are not just brainwashed but are potential threats to our society.
In other developed nations this is known as “grooming” to be radicalised. It’s a crime and people are taught about it from school.
So I didn't know you were previously a right winger...i used to follow you on Instagram back when I was using Instagram and every time I shared your opinions on insta stories I was always upper caste, faired skin male who got offended. Even if I knew many things i was not good at debating because i people i was debating with were my friends who were in the bubble of their privilege. Because of you I know little bit how to debate and how to articulate things you want to say it might be an exaggeration of things but I owe this to you.
@Communist party of india ( CPI ) economic backwardness (poverty) and social backwardness are totally different things!
@Communist party of india ( CPI ) representation helps against discrimination
so so proud 🙌
Thanks Priya
India is a very colorful and diverse country having good manpower great history as a Muslim ,Hindu,Christian we all have responsibility to safeguard or chesrished constitution and our parlimintary democracy ,we have been bestowed with so much natural resources that it is time we took a serious step to stop the plunder ,let us all come on one plat form to air our concern our voices to tell our people that we will never be influnced or taken for ride by political parties.
I am an ex bhakt too. My journey has been so similar to yours this brought me to tears. Sending many hugs and so much love. Keep doing what you are doing. I know how painful it can be to be this hard on yourself. Please know that we are all with you and appreciate the work you do now. Your self awareness and rationality is refreshing and frankly quite awesome. ❤
Man this is so relatable!! I was a right wing Nutt once who turned Atheist. We all make mistakes but able to accept your mistakes and take responsibility for your actions is something commendable.
This is brilliant man! I hope this inspires many more like you! Cheers!
Thanks for this video Vimoh! Takes a lot to admit your mistakes on a public platform and speak so openly and honestly about it. Also thanks for engaging with everyone's questions. As someone trying to work on urban policy, I find it very challenging to find a job that completely aligns with my ideals and politics. How did you navigate this? And were there any specific readings you did once you started challenging your ingrained beliefs that helped you change your thinking?
Respect ! I hope many more see it
Respect Vijay 🙏🏾 Choked up listening to this
1:04:50 I liked the related point about non-humanities background people being more susceptible to right-wing ideology but I think that it becomes even more dangerous when humanities background people become pro right-wing because they are the ones peddling the news. So I’m really glad that you came to the other side
Can’t believe I missed this. I am an ex-bhakt myself & came to realise how idiotic I’ve been. It takes a lot to put this out Vimoh. Cheers to that.
Same
Brilliant talk. You need to do a graphic of your bucket metaphor (45:00). It was an excellent metaphor.
Reading Hindu scriptures was my turning point. Let alone the Smritis and Purana, I never knew even the Mahabharata I read as a child was abridged - taking out the worst part. I realised we practiced an edified version of religion. Some of the same thing I used to accuse Islam (as a blind Hindu follower) is there in Hinduism, but 3 feet under and upon which Hindutva world view on cast, religious supremacy, misogyny, rape, toxic masculinity etc. stem from. But when I became agnostic in about 2008, Hindutva was not as big as today. It is the scriptures which I think every Hindus should read and which will open their eyes - or not - but at least Hindus that remain will know what they are following.
Anyway, somehow I still fell in the Hindutva trap and voted BJP in 2014. I came to reality seeing poor people in line for 2 hours every 2-3 days with a smile and saying "Modiji ne kiya hoga toh...". I realised we are heading towards calamity by a army of sycophants and the JNU events turned me into a vocal anti-Hindutva person. Before that I was agnostic, but never very active in challenging Hindutva narrative.
These days I see late teens and youths - mostly as pre-2008 version of me. If one pair of eye is opening, 10 pair of eyes are being hypnotized by Hindutva. We are still heading toward a calamity - and we are almost halfway through it.
I'm a Hindu but I have something of atheistic side but just wanted to know like do you hate hindu scriptures like are they all bad ??
@@deepanjan6895 Scriptures are as contradictory as life and death. But to realise they are contradictory, you have to read thousands of pages from 10's of texts. Scriptures are as harmful as stale curry. But ro realise they are stale, you have to read thousands of pages from 10's of texts.
Reading scripture is boring. Very very boring. And 99.999% people are lazy. Why read for 50-60 days when I can finish 10 series in Prime or Netflix in the same time? Gurus take advantage of this and do four things-
1) Focus on the good part of the scripture.
2) Spin the bad part as good part or justify them.
3) Focus on bad parts of scripture of other religion to establish superiority and religious pride. More Hindus I know know the evils in Islamic texts and Christian texts than their own texts.
4) Ensures that his followers are addicted to the superiority complex and consider the said Guru as a fountain of knowledge and authority of the religion.
What if I do the reverse? I become an anti-Guru and you get a shortcut. Knowledge through short cut never leave imprint in the mind. It remains as weak and easy to dismantle with more lies.
Are they all bad? They range from being a bowl of rice with 2-3 Kankad, to bowls with hundreds of kankad. But you don't pick and choose right? You choose the variety of rice you are habituated in consuming from young age and that's it. Others choose another variety of rice they have grown up with. Just the perspective changes. Imagine the variety of rice as different religions. So, it's not important to realize exactly how many Kankad are in which bowls in which variety, but to realize there are kankads in each variety and the social impact they have on culture and practices - past and present.
That's why my friend, my policy is to never attempt to explain where scriptures are wrong. On one hand, this is a vast topic, and on the other, such is futile as sooner or later cognitive dissonance takes over and years of brain washing wins. Yes, if the discussion is very specific and topic based, I do give my input, that's it.
Just yesterday I had to argue with a 14 year old! My son's classmate who was offended because I had posted a laughing emoji on a past made by the school my kid studies in (DPS Nacharam, Hyderabad). The school had conducted a HUGE Ram Kalyan (or such) and I was getting constant messages from the school to attend the same. And the kid got offended because I had hurt his sentiments. How deep this indoctrination goes. I worry about the future 😢
@@Subh8081 Your doomsday fantasy may not be true. Also, your argument on evils in religion is very shallow. People have the right to have pride in their past, heritage & roots. There are bad things in anything that gets mass adoption, but the way you guys borderline insult the Hindu faith is so snobbish. BTW I have been agnostic since I could think.
@@samrat.Biswas Hindutva is not past, heritage & roots. It's a early 20th century construct of bigots.
And secondly, it's not ok to have pride on something which is acquired by birth.
And lastly, at least for me, it's not acceptable to have pride on anything that is rotten.
I think myself as an agnostic and also a critic to all religions, including the one of my births as all religions have ambiguous and self-contradictory texts which evil people use to justify hatred, discrimination and violence and manipulate people. I am having none of it, let alone any pride. But I agree people have right to have pride in anything.
So, you go ahead and have pride on Hindutva, or on your birth religion or on the rotten texts on which religion is based and call yourself Hindu atheist or agnostic whatever you think yourself, no one is stopping you.
However, I also have the right to critic and don't you lecture me on that.
But, if you want to debate on the glory and shame of your birth religion, which was also mine's, I'm prepared for it.
1:14:01 I used to listen to this guy Conrad Elst on a channel called something like Jaipur dialogues (I don't remember correctly because its been around 4 years) and I used to think him in high regard in my Hindutva days. Greetings from an ex hindutvist who also happens to come from upper cast background.
Koenrad Elst you mean. Me too. It's ok.
You are not alone bother. Even I voted for BJP 2014 2019. Never again will I make that mistake.
Though caste based bias is still at large even in TamilNadu, leaving caste name from one's surname was a start for better health of democratic values. TN has been forefront for progressive ideology, welcoming inclusiveness overall. Southern states have always been largely resistant for the religious radicalization of people by RSS & BJP. I'm waiting for the day where right wing fanta boi's realize they were wrong all this while and have lame justification for their lack of common sense.
*Hey vimoh, will you kindly drop your two cent on future of current hate politics in coming days I e future and concomitant to it is the future of Muslims and other minorities. Do speak on it, we need to know how to stop a draconian dream come true.*
I USED TO WORK IN ABVP-RSS FOR 5 YEARS. MY SECULARISM NEVER FULLY ABSOLVED INTO RSS IDEOLOGY. MIDWAY I STARTED QUESTIONING & FINALLY LEFT.
Vimoh take it easy on your self, we all make really really stupid choices in life. We also make some smart choices. With hardship comes ease. So chin up and smile.
How do you deal with the guilt . This might be a personal question but I am kind of suffering from same .
By doing things that may fix the mistakes I made. The guilt is a good thing. It can drive you in the right direction.
Minor correction Vimoh: JC Bose was not a Nobel laureate in sciences (although he was a great scientist). CV Raman was.
Thanks!
@@vimohlive On a separate note, do you plan to hold a discussion any time in the near future about caste based reservations in India (whether it is required or not, if yes - for how long, if not reservations - what other affirmative actions may be looked into, who should pay for it and in what ways etc.) I feel like to really address this topic of “hindu khatre mein hain” we need to go to the root of this “grievance” from uc hindus and confront it.
This takes integrity. Salute.
Great podcast 😃👍
Apki jivan yatra mujhe apni hi lagi
Great talk Vimoh! Appreciate your integrity and honesty! I too used to be a right-wing Christian fundamentalist at one point.
Hey Vimoh, maybe one day you can make a video talking to the Uncles, Auntys and other brainwashed younger people eye to eye... about how things are with respect to Hindutva and why it is bad for them personally and the nation as a whole. Thanks for the great content! :)
@Vimoh, Super Commando Dhruv, Nagraj, Fighter Toads, Bhokal. Baki dono kya hai? Doga?
Inspector Steel and Tiranga
Mera bhi yhi hal tha ,abhi me sahi raste pr hu ,pehle se jyada rational hu or kosis kr rha hu apke video dekhkar
I was also bhakt at first and then I became an atheist like you and again I became a proud fact based bhakt by seeing two sides of the coin.🚩
what are some religuous practices you have done in past years? like meditations, chntings etc
Hey Vimoh! You're doing a fab job. I have read your work done on a graphic novel. Really loved it. Are you planning to work on some new projects of holy cow entertainment? 19:25
We trust you it doesn't matter what beliefs you have after watching this podcast
Good to see someone open about caste and accepting their privileged and giving space to underprivileged community. Respect 👍
Indeed! I became a believing communist and started reading Marxist works as a direct result of Modiji. He is my inspiration! 😁
appreciate your intellectual honesty! more power to you
I wasnt necessarily a right winger but I used to take some right wing stances very staunchly, like abortion
I really like to visit your place, these books behind you, pulls me to your Library.
I discovered you through instagram yesterday. Saw few videos on youtube now.. I am sitting at home, not going to work because i live in Sohna, Haryana, where the unrest is happening. I like to check my privilege here, i am a Hindu who is safely tucked away in a big housing society and have the option of staying at home for a few days.
I wasnt expect you to be a right wing nutter in the past. And it gives me hope that people can change. Many of my family members are now sanghi idiots. And defend the cult-ish image of our pradhan sevak without shame. I love these people because they are family and i have known them my entire life. I just hope their way of thinking changes.
The worst part is i am from Kerala, where the hope of BJP coming into power is miniscule, but the radicalisation of sane people has been rampant.
How's your mental state now?
@@moniroy5335 I feel great today.. BJP lost in Mewat..I have to say, BJP tried its best to be as sh*tty as they could be. And they lost. 🤣
I didn't think you are going to so open about your past when i read the heading of your video. Kudos to you.❤
You are no longer a bhakt. That's you are thinking like a human being and talking rationally. It's so nice to know !!!!! 😊😊😊😊👍👍👍 Humanity and tolerance is far more better than being a party bhakt or an ideology bhakt. 👍👍👍
I was also a hindutva supporter and right winger till 2018.
@@aniketsan9567 for me it was neet. I researched bjp and it was bad
I am glad that I never was part of it, I am now 20 so now i started understanding what religion and caste is, how it control and work in society, i belong to schedule tribe and thankfully never lived in environment of caste and religion discrimination, but my parents faced it maybe because of that they never let these things to happen to us, always thaught me humility and love for others. I am privileged to have such parents. But now as I am getting older the cruel reality of world is coming out mostly because of social media too. But I'm glad to say i never ever faced these kind of sentiments seeing someone inferior to me on basis of caste and religion, but yeah on the basis of society beauty standard i myself used to felt inferior but not anymore.😊
My story is very fast forward if any one iis reading this...
I discovered vimoh just 9 days back and after watching him I was very irritated by him.... But I couldn't let him out my mind I was irritated and I couldn't let him out I was is a existential crisis for 3 days and then suddenly on the 4th day after waking up in the morning I suddenly realised that what i was thinking about god is nonsense and god is non sense and I changed into an atheist slowly.... The next day I was still in very little dillema.... The next I accepted that i can be a nihilist....then the nest i decided to open up and become an atheist..... Then debated some theists in comment section of various channels and there I realised that the theist really don't have a single clue 😂.... Now today i am a hardcore atheist and it feels like I escaped the matrix and truly free....
You're now free, my friend! Congratulations :)
Your podcast is deeply touching. One needs to be brave to admit one is wrong. Braver to change course. Even braver to change course when you know there is a huge cost to it.
If somebody of your intellect and rationale could be brainwashed then am not having any hope from the common people of india. We are doomed !
Kudos to your bravery and brutal honesty. You are a good human being. Wish you move over all those days and continue making positive impact on the society, as you do today.
❤ from a Periarist from TN. Jai Bhim
What else is a better option than NOTA in your opinion?
Yeah??
This govt is like a cult and people who follow cults always have insecurities, and cult members don't even realise they r following a cult.
People need to view this govt as an employee where r taxes r like the salary and if r govt doesn't do work it's fired.This is the only way r country can develop.
Lastly my parents r catholic but still voted for bjp in 2014 not bcz of hindutva bcz they were tired of congress.At 2017 they stopped we all r guilty,not just u.
Also I feel bad for all the ex andhbhakth after all they support the govt so much,still the govt keeps giving them a kick in their ass and fills their minds with hindu insecurities. When reality kicks them,they will start to see this govt no different than the British.(divide and rule)
No fucking way you used to work at epified. I was a kid when the mahabharat series used to come on the Epic TV channel and absolutely loved them. I wish y'all could have completed the whole series too. Makes me reflect on a lot of childhood memories. Fuck The world is indeed a small place. Or maybe we just have too few good artists. Idk
I am secular, positive, liberal. Many people say we r heading towards civil war. But don't agree. Do u think so.
37:40 same. I never linked BJP with hardcore hindutva back then(I was also 14 - and ofc like you said- we have the privilege to not worry about the hindutva side of their party because it was hardly going to affect us) what had tipped me into supporting Modi back then was the Gujarat Govt. advertisments that portrayed Modi as a leader of change and development (it was smth about Solar panels).
Obviously there was a huge anti-UPA wave, people were tired of them, and an energetic atmosphere that Modi brought in (again with his campaign ads) was smth I had never seen in my small life. It felt as if country was coming together for smth great.
I think what turned me against the BJP was their arrogance and how they broke and insulted the regional parties.(thankfully it was early for me: Oct 2014, MH elections) The open assault on democracy baffled me. Few years later I was a humanities student and then my opposition extended not only to BJP but also their ideology. It's now nightmarish to think a party with such poisonous mindset is even allowed to exist.
So I'm about 16 minutes into the video and you say that the brutality against the students is what helped you re-examine your world view.
I think you're a much kinder person that I am because when I was a right winger, even as the CAA, JNU was happening. I was still on the side of the government assuming that all the bad things were happening to the students coz they deserved it, they had it coming, they were the ones who started the riots, they were the ones who started attacking the police first and when the police strikes back, they shouldn't cry about it coz they started it.
I had this Hindu Khatre me hai mindset back then which made me dangerously oblivious to my privileges and the injustices that the protestors and minorities faced.
which events led to change in your thought process and perception of hindutva?
Sir...I had been praying that may God give guidance to Muslim and to majority Hindu...and to find you...I forgive you...can it be on large scale too...plz answer me
I can only speak for myself. And thank you!
I was a bhakt too till 2019.. i remember how i celebrated modi victory 🤦.
I also feel responsible when I hear about Hindus attacking Muslims.
I appreciate your honest, specific atonement for your contribution to undermining the world’s largest democracy! However, in examining my privilege, I can’t just point at you and say, “well I never did anything that bad, and in fact I vocally opposed anti-Muslim speech from the very first time I heard it from my parents! So my hands are clean and I’m one of the good ones.” Nope, as long as they’re being terrorized, while I can expect more legal protection, my hands are covered in blood too.
Excuses don’t make me feel better. But it brings me some peace to hear you hold yourself accountable because I get the time to reflect about how it’s true for me too, and to ask myself what I’m going to do about it.
Also your story reminds me of the story of a former neo-nazi white supremacist. Until I met him and worked alongside him at Black Lives Matter protests, I didn’t know someone could change so much.
Btw I really appreciate when you share your platform with individuals who have more direct experience of oppression.
Don't you feel equally feel responsible when muslim attacks hindu? I think as a human being you should look both sides...
Don't be so judgemental.
I think, now also you should keep changing your perspective because there is no saturation point in life as we grow things also change and we should think of the solution that will be beneficial for all living on EARTH
Demonetization did it for me!
Takes courage to admit... May your tribe increase so that this country remains beautiful as it is despite the attempt to desecrate it .. God has forgiven you so don't let guilt eat you up. And your nadi analogy by God's grace has been going through the roof... Be blessed 🙌 🙌
I am a right-winger on economic issues. I am a libertarian. And I hate culturally conservative right-wingers.
Refreshing
29:40 I am 23, Maybe I should be glad that I did not spend so much time watch news when I was young as I do today. I did start taking an interest in news during the lockdown but it got too depressing so I deleted my news apps started limiting the news intake. When I started my first job at 21 I started taking an interest in news again especially at the beginning of Ukrain and Russia War. Now I am very much aware of what's happening around me and how wrong it is.
I also got into audiobooks during the lockdown. I was very much affected by the diary of a young girl, and maybe that sparked an interest and how holocaust came into existence. Maybe everyone should read it in their young years to know what this could lead to. If anyone is interested "The tattooist of Auschwitz" is also once thought-provoking book.
Respect🔥💕
Just saw your 28 June live. You talk about Ranga and also mentioned the News Laundry Tippadi episode that premiered the same day and talked about Ranga's turncoat from rational to right. In the above video, you say that you became a right winger because of lack of info. What do we make of the people like Ranga who turned after 2015!
Opportunist
People who like to remain on safe harbour
Let the govt change and ranga will turn into a liberal person
listening to this is like my own story
You are a brave man. Proud of you. ❤
That textbook satire was good
What this whole system did , they celebrated mediocrity and gave an amplifier to everybody.. pre 2014 we had idols who used to promote excellence.. now every other guy kuchh bhi bol ke famous .. we now have an equivalent to the white culture in US (immense dubness propagated)
The way you're apologetic bring tears to my eyes brother. We are the followers of Prophet Mohammad ❤ forgiveness is in our flood, check out the story battle of Makkah, you'll be amazed😊
Bdw as you said, muslims see you as a hope, you've spend good years in policymaking of the evils, can you give us a blueprint that should be followed which will bring peace and love back in our society?
VIMOH ,YOU ROCK FROM AN EX ANDH BHAKT TO HARDCORE ATHEIST THAANKS ❤
Thanks!
Bhaiya what do you Jai Sai Deepak, Anand Rangnathan, vikram sampath. They are all right wing intellects so
There is nobody who has not committed mistakes in his life, but realization is the turning point. Isn't it?
Just starting to watch/listen to this. What’s overwhelming to me is how someone who sounds reasonable, rational, intelligent could have been sucked into toxic right wing propaganda. (A side question in my mind is if this makes you fickle and you
Are at risk of changing your mind again) So how deeply entrenched, is this brand of politics and propaganda in people’s minds?!
Side side note - in the other hand I was never sucked into hindutva narrative - things like ‘tejo mahalaya’ and ‘love jihad’ made and still make me laugh - well it was funny until I saw how many people seriously believed that stuff. I was reasonably aware and old enough to see the toxic nature of Advani/Vajpayee/Joshi in the run up to the Babri destruction - and the terrible aftermath. I was around to see the awful fissures and divisions within my own micro-society and surroundings as a result of these events. Cut to 2005 ish and I never turned. I am self admittedly not the sharpest one in the room - but how did people like yourself and others in the. Comments that describe themselves as former Bhakts fall for this shit. Lack of historical awareness and thus context?
I come from family belong to right wing extreme from 70s ( from extreme I mean we were part of shivsena which was way more extremists than RSS and BJP . We came out of this cycle in 2018 as we were looking the change of Hinduism by BJP as it was completely different from what Hinduism is. It's all become politics now )
Tho my fathers side of family is a liberal and well read family , my nana was in Rss all his youth and was bjp supporter , later on in his life he became a stauch anti bjp person ! Which was a big change , but 2002.modi might be the triggrr for him!
From your story what feeling I get is
You didn't had deep routed hate for Muslims , it's just that you got mislead and that's why may be you could see through later ...
About Forgiveness or Apologies ...
Majoritarians accepting/recognising your apology has No means,
Coz being bhakt damage what has been done is unimaginable and if one has been at higher level than just a Whatsappians,
It's the minorities/lower caste people who would accept your apology and I think that would be more satisfiable for you
Between Nice to hear the story...
How did i miss this??
Hello vimoh sahab, if some authentic and reliable source is saying that they have proof of God and they are ready to sell it for a big price, how much money would you be willing to pay to purchase such a proof?
Zero. Sounds like a scam.
You are a time waste... Jao fad mein.. Good bye and bigger off..
Hi Mate, u look like a very sensible guy very well educated and smart. I am not as much educated and come from an engg background but I never in my life trusted BJP or any other scare mongrer but I fail to understand how people like fall into this trap, I just want to understand the physcology. Nothing against you👍👍
I was rw and there’s blood on my hands as well for 2014 and 2019. For as long as I remember I used to have first principles thinking and I have it even now but midway due to their propaganda and my emotionalism (tipping point were some leftist colleagues who were snakes and dogs leftists) I got carried away and now I regret it every day and have exiled out of socials and even in reality I want to be less perceived by anyone I know.
2014 was congress fault. 2019 was also not ur fault if u weren't directly affected and bjp used soldiers martyrs to win
And they blocked information and manipulated the nation
i myself is another vimoh, change in possible. All it requires is realization of your inner inactivated empathy
Though I don't agree with all of ur atheist belief.. I appreciate u talking about this as it takes a lot of courage to come out and speak about ur past... I'm glad you realise the narrative and damage the right wing is causing in India
what damage is right wing causing to india ?