Doubt anyone may see this, but Soken did not do this arrangement actually, it was Daiki Ishikawa, who did a lot of arrangements during Soken's medical therapy and also several songs from FFVIIR. Just feel somebody should point this out to give credit to the proper artist. :0
not that it matters since 99% of the time our ass was not on the seat but on a dirty floor somewhere on a cave or a tree or a swamp 😁😅🤣 and probably dragging emet with us
You’re more right than you know. Loghrif is the First Seat in order. Azem’s is the Fourteenth Seat. They’re positioned next to each other in their meeting room.
"Reflect on your childhood. Your sensation. Your words. Your emotions. Time... It will not wait. No matter how hard you hold on, it escapes you. And..."
@@NokoFace I prefer the Japanese version more. It has more impact and simple. "Have you remembered something? A sensation. Your words from back then? Your emotions from back then? As you grow up be an adult, You leave something behind. Time will not wait for you. Even if you cling to it, It will slip away from your hands. And....."
what hurts is after finding out who we are and all the ascian we fought we were probably friends once despite our past self causing them headache with our antics
The ascians are so hung up on restoring the world they fail to recognize that it isn't all that bad as it stands. Not like they ever invented time travel!
they decided to destroy everything rather than moving on. their loved ones werent dead, they were always here, living new lives free of nightmares and suffering, but they decided it just wasnt good enough for them apparently, and only caused more pain in the process...
@@i.147 The population they planned on bringing back wasn't the ones that are part of the cycle of reincarnation almongst the shards, but those who were used up to create Zodiark each time he was summoned, who are not being reincarnated and still remain inside Zodiark, fueling the slumbering primal.
@@i.147 I might not be remembering this 100% accurately, but I believe that after the sundering, new life was born in addition to the souls of the sundered. Unlike the sundered fragments, though, the new life does not reincarnate but instead is absorbed into the life stream, where a new soul is created and placed into one of the worlds. My assumption is that the 3 Unsundered planned to sacrifice the lives of anyone alive after the final rejoining whose soul was not one of the fragments, in exchange for the souls of their brethren who are trapped within Zodiark.
Actually, it's really important to remember that the framing for Eden Savage is that it's Eden's thoughts, memories and perception of the fight--Eden as in Mitron, as in 'the part of this fight that ISN'T Loghrif'. It's less 'Gaia taking power from her memories of being an Ascian' (because this didn't actually happen) and more Mitron's 'and then my ex-girlfriend will come to her senses' fantasy. Recognize that all her lines in this fight don't make sense as coming from Gaia, but make complete sense as the stuff Mitron wanted to hear her say.
@@EinDose wait how dose this fight not happen ? I don't get it, I heard that the extreme/ultimate fights change how fight functions,but I thought that just means it gets harder. Do they actually change how the story plays out?
@@1LuvMLPFiMShadowbringers itself is a reference to almost any FF title. Even the overworld theme in front of the Raids is from FF8. The weapons from FF7 as Optional Content, Warrior of Light as the final Boss of the ShB Post-Game.. my heart was filled with joy when i saw that for the first Time.
Having played through normal e12, despite loving the music, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't at least a bit disappointed that we didn't get a XIV remix of The Extreme. I'm very glad to see savage show me otherwise.
@@D1ab0lical I can see why. They really should've done E12N as this as well. They had the basis for it, since Ultimecia already has an Ascian aesthetic to her. She even has that dark aura in Dissidia NT. Disappointed they didn't include her castle theme and Succession of Witches in there somewhere. It's a FF theme park in the end and they had avenues to integrate it without just blatantly copy/pasting them into it.. which didn't stop them previously!
@@lolcat5303 I agree, wish this was in normal and they did something else for the savage version. I get wanting to give the super cool stuff to savage as an incentive for players to run savage, but at the same time I think they forgot to think about everyone else who doesn’t have time for savage, leaving normal to be kinda.....underwhelming :/
@@UOTQAUIBO I mean they already gave people who dont do savage a lot of other things to do, i casualy run savage with my group and in my opinion i like that reward for trying savage, but keep in mind savage isnt canon on the storyline
@@UOTQAUIBO savage was made for the hardcore players and this is their reward. Before savage existed, coils was the only thing and it got a lot of backlash because casual players were not able to complete it to see the story. Reason why in 3.0 they made alex normal and savage. To allow anyone to see the story and give hardcore players the challenge they wanted.
i cant believe they actually brought this theme back to life. I was here like "wait... 'The Extreme'? no way" cause i had no idea, it's been months since i finished Endwalker and kinda entered an "hiatus" on playing XIV. Hearing this again brings me so many good memories i actually got goosebumps
This is Ultimecia's battle theme. But where is Ultimecia? Nowhere! Fucking lame! Next thing you know, they will add One Winged Angel to a random boss battle. 🙄
All the FF8 music being used in XIV is just giving me so much nostalgiaaaaaa~ Really love the build-up in the beginning until it drops to the actual beats.
>Basic Relativity "Okay, so this is the mechanic for the fight, and it's gonna show up again but more complicated, it's just Light Rampant/Icelit or Temporal Stasis or Hello World--" >'Intermediate' Relativity [*Unbridled fear*]
@@MelonMuncherChicken (psst. the punchline is 'intermediate' as a name implies the existence of the mechanic happening a third time, which usually doesn't happen in cases like Temporal Stasis or Hello World or other 'this is the end of raid tier boss doing a bunch of crazy things all at once' mechanics)
"Past, Present, Future.... Infinite possibilities, condensed into a single moment. Pain shall be fleeting, Joy shall be lasting. As I wish so shall the river of time flow. Your presence only deepens my solitude. I shall erase you and know unending bliss. You shall never take my memories away from me again! Disappear!!"
Honestly, even if you don't have the actual character around, they could have done a better job with Gaia's deisgn. They did an awesome job with Ryne/Shiva/Hydaelyn, I won't lie when I say I'm disappointed they didn't put more effort in Gaia's.
This is how they sshould do more references and crossovers by taking the ideas of things instead of whatever delta and sigmascape was like what if instead of just being a simulation the phantom train is a thing in the world of ffxiv instead
@@n30sp4rk I'm not so sure actually - it might sample it, but I'd sooner think they'd give Zenos his own theme. There's really not much of a comparison between the two aside from "long hair and wields a big katana," which Zenos isn't even doing now. And he certainly isn't a one winged angel, it just wouldn't make a whole lot of sense without some prior direct reference to 7 specifically.
Gaia: I shall restore the power of Darkness to this star! Me: I'll never let y-...wait...That's...that's literally what I came to this world for. Shit, go ahead. Why the fuck would I stop you?
"hey, uh, exactly how much darkness we talking about? You planning on a Flood of Darkness, or kinda just bringing back the darkness that was stripped from this world, bringing it back into balance?" "The second one, obviously!" "...carry on, then! Don't see much reason for us to fight, that's kinda why we're here after all" _"thank_ you! Now, where was I?"
One of only two Final Fantasy villains to have their big master plan to destroy the world actually succeed...Too bad she didn't count on plucky teenage heroes being able to use the Power of Friendship to survive Time Compression and confront her in the new world so they could kill her and undo said Time Compression >.>
@@TransientWitch Final Fantasy main antagonists are allergic to teams of plucky teenagers, that's why they consistently lose despite gaining near omnipotence in the endgame.
Gaia : *Has re-awoken to her true self as an Ascian, literally destroying any semblance left of the Gaia we knew, making her our enemy* WoL : YIPPEE! WE WON!
Savage isn't canon though? xD the questline to unlock the Savages is a crystal who has recorded your battles with the raids, but has recorded them at a much higher intensity and allows you to relive them :')
Finally! A good remix of The Extreme! Also, I love that several of her Hammer attacks are named for FFXI Hammer Weaponskills. Shellbuster, Black Halo, Spirit Taker...
You gotta listen to Black Mages’ remix man. Extreme gotta be done with Metal. Actually find it discomforting there aren’t electric guitars in this mix.
BM version just felt like it was trying TOO hard to be metal, and lost something in the process. (Also just remembered Spirit Taker was a Staff WS. Close enough.)
the editing and timing on this video with syncing the crescendos and parts where the music gets intense with the start of the fight/the big mechanics is SO GOOD
The Extreme is one of my favorite tracks from final fantasy as a whole. I thought the Black Mages rendition was spectacular, but this version is so insanely well thought out and put together that I can not stop getting chills and I have listened to it about 15 times consecutively today
I love how Savage is essentially playing out some bard's fanfic. Edit: Forgot, Bard is for Extreme. lol Still pretty much playing out a fanfic, albeit a very good fanfic.
@@fleeplayTV now, take your pills, be calm and think about the true meaning of what windy said, even without bard, we know that bards tend to exaggerate the stories, so it makes sense
@@amonlua3494 withing the context of this tier of savage what windy said has no correlation no matter how much your narcissistic attitude tries to spin it around.
Admittedly in hindsight, the fact Gaia's name is that of a Greek dirty should have been a big giveaway she was an ascian after learning that detail with emet selch/hades
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@@rexex345 *wol meets some rando* rando: Hello, my name is Hera wol: *ACTIVATES EX-COWORKER ASSASINATION MODE*
@@rexex345To be fair, Eden's Promise is the moment that was actually established - Hades's name is a reference to a recurring FF boss, and the only other Ancient whose name we knew before this point was Hythlodaeus, whose name has nothing to do with Greek myth and references Utopia instead.
One of my favorite remixes of The Extreme - I love the stylistic links with the XIV orchestration of Force Your Way with the piano, horns, and opera, while still being balanced with the stylish synths of the original. And not to mention the guitars, mmmph! Soken remixing Uematsu is the perfect match.
And the haunting echo of "Fithos Lusec Wecos Venosec" which is almost indiscernible at the beginning of the track, replete with the jangling bells from the original. This remake is bliss.
Funny that you mentioned that since both Force Your Way and The Extreme in FFXIV were arranged by the same person, Daiki Ishikawa. Hence, a similar musical style.
I will always have fond memories of this song. Edenmorn was the first savage tier I cleared and I met a lot of wonderful people because of it. I never would have imagined raiding savage before then, and now I can’t imagine playing FF14 without it
Extremes are really simple mechanic wise. Savage is still timelined and can be learned from ton of guides and kill PoV videos. Give it a try! Savage/ex can be both cleared by casual player too.
@@rockoutloud2112 Not after a while tho. But since we're still in the first weeks, theres a million different tactics to do the same mechanic and a static is the easiest to prog with. You'll be on the same page all the time
@@yraco1232 I've already done 9 10 and 11 in pf this patch, it's not that bad, early in a patch cycle players are better than later in the cycle. Obviously statics have benefits but not even close to necessary.
@@kiriuxeosa8716 I will say what i want too & i Foxxing agree with you FFVIII FECKING ROCKED. In the PAL regions at least it garnered all the positivity it deserved.
did this boss with the surround sound on once, friend was watching and perked up looked at me straight in the eye and went this is FF8?!??!?!???! i nodded now hes playing this game and discovering many awesome things.
@@DerekDirk-eb8dj While it is true that this one isn't by him Soken's remixes are good too, what you on lol. His FFIV boss theme arrangement is great or his FF6 boss theme arrange for SB, that one is amazing also done by Soken. Everyone on the XIV music team is great with these arranges, they all manage to have a cohesive style despite being different people, shows how in tune they are with eachother.
@@SilverwingedBat of course it’s my opinion, but I just find him so… forgettable and bland compared to Hamauzu, Shimumuta and Uematsu. High bar of course
Damn, my 2nd favorite FF Theme, second to the prologue... One of my EXTREME game moments was when fighting Ultimecia, almost all resources exhausted then she hits the entire party with that 1HP attack... Fortunately for me, everyone triggered their limit breaks because of that and it was enough to kill her.
did anyone notice that at 1:03 she is literally "drawing" power from her ascian memories? as in, that is the same animation used to "draw" magic in FF8 you gotta hand it to these folk, they really sweat the details on this stuff
Ultimecia is a translation error of Artemesia already in FF8, Artemesia being another name for Artemis (the Greek God), so it very much IS a fight against Ultimesia.
@@seablade214 Arutimishia is how her name is spelled in Japanese. Arut is often translated from japanese to english as Ult Which is how Ultimecia is called Ultimecia in english and french. While Spanish chose to take the Translation of Arutimishia and make it Artemisa. Depending on how you look it it. While Arutimishia could end up being based on Artemis. In the context of FF8 story with Ultimecia being the "Final" Sorceress, wanting to avoid her doom by compressing time. Ultimare seems to be where Arut comes from. Ultimare being latin for "to be final, come to an end" As in Japanese ULTIMA is actually Arutema. Reason for this is japanese language does not have Ls. So when you hear Engrish. as the internet calls it. Ls give off a "RU" noise. so it changes how you say Ultimare to Arutimare. Fun fact of the day
@@DarthXelion Also, the Spell Ultima is spelled a-ru-te-ma in japanese katakana so Ultimecia should be A-ru-te-mi-shi-a. But the official katakana is a-ru-ti-mi-shi-a so it's kind of strange haha
Yeah, that was supposed to be her name. Which would have mad a lot of sense. Besides being the goddess of hunt, she was also the goddess of the moon and magic.
Little thing I love that is a small FF8 reference. 1:04 - as we’ve seen through FF8 and some in FF14, she’s using draw and is junctioning from her power as an Ascian.
This battle looks to badass. This version of The Extreme is top notch it would be gnarly to see Ultimecia become a boss in FF14 like how: Kefka, Exdeath, Dark Cloud, and Ultima were brought in via events and raids but cool seeing those in FF14 regardless
@@xxomnicloudxx everyone already know uematsu is god tier, I mean the music here is bases on his work, but soken has done a very good job giving the already good music of uematsu a touch of his own and making amazing covers, and he deserves the recognition
Well it helps that a good portion of the soundtrack is hand picked the best from the rest of the series, but it’s still fantastic with all of the new stuff so that’s moot.
@Anonymous Turkey Well not really. No one ever really talks about music before VI. VII has it's good theme. IX most people don't mention when it comes to music. X brought in a new fanbase for the PS2 era, so it has it's fans. XII, people complained too much orchestra when it was released. XIII, well most people just hate everything about it.
god this fight looks so freaking fun??? Gaia being an Ascian reincarnation makes her relevant to future plot points...and given that in time if she can master her Ascian powers, she can visit us in the Source, and might bring Ryne with her too...might be a thing before 6.0?
I doubt it, anything that happens with the raids is almost always its own separate plot point that never leaks into the story, the only exception being kind of omega, because Ironworks used technology based on him to travel through time and space to the first with Graha.
@@generaln0nsense848 You literally have to do CT in order to continue MSQ now. It's entirely plausible depending on where they go that they do the same for eden.
Gaia has been so popular among fans, she is an extreamly rare example of a raid character having VO, can traverse through dimensions once she's mastered her ascian powers, is designed by goddamn Nomura, has a tie in the ascian lore (seat of Logrif)... She is definetly coming back as a main story character. Would be such a waste if not.
@The Killcode The made you clear at least 5.3 patch to join the final part of eden so on old live letters they said eden raid is canon on the story of shadowbringers
@@generaln0nsense848 with them making crystal tower required for ShB now, they can easily do the same with Eden for a future expansion, maybe not 6.0 right away, its a possibility still
Its launch day/week, ppl are doing this at 510 ilevel. It is also a short fight because of door boss situation, 8 mins 48 secs for the kill on this vid. I assume enrage with cast bar going all the way and then an animation is 8 mins 55 secs or maybe even 9 minutes, so a kill at 510ish ilevel without fully optimized strats was done with 7-12 secs to spare. It is gonna be rather OK once ppl are at 530 ilevel.
![FFXIV OST Eden's Promise Anamorphosis Theme ( SPOILERS ) [ The Legendary Beast ]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/gB74SFACHqY/mqdefault.jpg)
Doubt anyone may see this, but Soken did not do this arrangement actually, it was Daiki Ishikawa, who did a lot of arrangements during Soken's medical therapy and also several songs from FFVIIR. Just feel somebody should point this out to give credit to the proper artist. :0
Thanks, I would've given Soken and Nobuo Uematsu credit. Although Nobuo did compose the original song from FF8
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@@Shinobaekun ff8? As far as I know, this is the song for the final battle of ff2 (4 in the states) against Zeromus.
@@Zastragoth It's a mash up of both!! Check this out ruclips.net/video/3LbnMiO59cY/видео.html
@@Zastragoth you mean ff4 (2 in states)
Still in awe that she was and still actually is a part of the Convocation of Fourteen and literally shares a seat next to us for the Azem.
not that it matters since 99% of the time our ass was not on the seat but on a dirty floor somewhere on a cave or a tree or a swamp 😁😅🤣 and probably dragging emet with us
@@eastbow6053 shhhhh,you're giving away too much info.
let's just have this moment.
imagine the wol realizing this snooty rich teen girl was their coworker from a past life
You’re more right than you know. Loghrif is the First Seat in order. Azem’s is the Fourteenth Seat. They’re positioned next to each other in their meeting room.
"Reflect on your childhood. Your sensation. Your words. Your emotions. Time... It will not wait. No matter how hard you hold on, it escapes you. And..."
i just realized she never finished her dialogue after saying "And..."
I mean like, AND WHAT BIYACH FINISH UR LINE BRUH
huh, Ulti was telling us to think, feel and hear
@@SaarkinCho maybe ulti mama wanted to say "and i want to fart"
@@deboraudrey "I cannot disappear yet. Not until I understand the succession of witches' love."
"Time is being compressed."
All existence is being denied.
Kurse all SeeeeeeeDs, swarming like lokusts
Reflect on your childhood... Your sensation, your words, your emotions... Time will not wait. No matter how hard you hold on, it escapes you... and...
@@NokoFace I prefer the Japanese version more. It has more impact and simple.
"Have you remembered something?
A sensation.
Your words from back then?
Your emotions from back then?
As you grow up be an adult,
You leave something behind.
Time will not wait for you.
Even if you cling to it,
It will slip away from your hands.
And....."
@@NokoFace And..... i'm not Rinoa
0:19 ayo Luffy, do something bro
Someone spilled salt water on him, he can't.
lmao
Gomu gomu no...
@@ft.-featuring The FFXIV OC boss - OmegaStryker chokes Luffy, and Law and Zoro try to save him.
He's recovering from using Gear 4th, he can't use his Haki for another 10 minutes
what hurts is after finding out who we are and all the ascian we fought we were probably friends once despite our past self causing them headache with our antics
The ascians are so hung up on restoring the world they fail to recognize that it isn't all that bad as it stands. Not like they ever invented time travel!
they decided to destroy everything rather than moving on. their loved ones werent dead, they were always here, living new lives free of nightmares and suffering, but they decided it just wasnt good enough for them apparently, and only caused more pain in the process...
@@i.147 The population they planned on bringing back wasn't the ones that are part of the cycle of reincarnation almongst the shards, but those who were used up to create Zodiark each time he was summoned, who are not being reincarnated and still remain inside Zodiark, fueling the slumbering primal.
@@CorraThaxton they were planning on doing that by sacrificing even more people so i dont really see your point though?
@@i.147 I might not be remembering this 100% accurately, but I believe that after the sundering, new life was born in addition to the souls of the sundered. Unlike the sundered fragments, though, the new life does not reincarnate but instead is absorbed into the life stream, where a new soul is created and placed into one of the worlds.
My assumption is that the 3 Unsundered planned to sacrifice the lives of anyone alive after the final rejoining whose soul was not one of the fragments, in exchange for the souls of their brethren who are trapped within Zodiark.
4:12 syncs perfectly! Love that part ❤️
I truly love that she's taking power from her memories as an Ascian
Yes, and she has a buff in p2 called "Junction Loghrif"
I also noticed that when she was absorbing that power from the crystal, it looked like she was using draw from ff8.
@@Skullmakerdemon Yup! Phase 1 also utilizes Draw, Cast, Stock, and Release.
Actually, it's really important to remember that the framing for Eden Savage is that it's Eden's thoughts, memories and perception of the fight--Eden as in Mitron, as in 'the part of this fight that ISN'T Loghrif'.
It's less 'Gaia taking power from her memories of being an Ascian' (because this didn't actually happen) and more Mitron's 'and then my ex-girlfriend will come to her senses' fantasy. Recognize that all her lines in this fight don't make sense as coming from Gaia, but make complete sense as the stuff Mitron wanted to hear her say.
@@EinDose wait how dose this fight not happen ? I don't get it, I heard that the extreme/ultimate fights change how fight functions,but I thought that just means it gets harder. Do they actually change how the story plays out?
Just noticed she started with Final Ultimecias special move Hell's Judgement^^
Which incidentally is just how final ultimecia starts her battle as well. She also uses Shocwave Pulsars troughout the fight.
The entire fight is fill with moves from older games. her tank buster is called Black Halo, a Club/Mace skill from FFXI
Hot damn XIV is chock full of past FF games references!
@@1LuvMLPFiMShadowbringers itself is a reference to almost any FF title. Even the overworld theme in front of the Raids is from FF8.
The weapons from FF7 as Optional Content, Warrior of Light as the final Boss of the ShB Post-Game.. my heart was filled with joy when i saw that for the first Time.
Having played through normal e12, despite loving the music, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't at least a bit disappointed that we didn't get a XIV remix of The Extreme. I'm very glad to see savage show me otherwise.
E12N was somehow more underwhelming than O12N.
@@D1ab0lical I can see why. They really should've done E12N as this as well. They had the basis for it, since Ultimecia already has an Ascian aesthetic to her. She even has that dark aura in Dissidia NT. Disappointed they didn't include her castle theme and Succession of Witches in there somewhere. It's a FF theme park in the end and they had avenues to integrate it without just blatantly copy/pasting them into it.. which didn't stop them previously!
@@lolcat5303 I agree, wish this was in normal and they did something else for the savage version. I get wanting to give the super cool stuff to savage as an incentive for players to run savage, but at the same time I think they forgot to think about everyone else who doesn’t have time for savage, leaving normal to be kinda.....underwhelming :/
@@UOTQAUIBO I mean they already gave people who dont do savage a lot of other things to do, i casualy run savage with my group and in my opinion i like that reward for trying savage, but keep in mind savage isnt canon on the storyline
@@UOTQAUIBO savage was made for the hardcore players and this is their reward. Before savage existed, coils was the only thing and it got a lot of backlash because casual players were not able to complete it to see the story. Reason why in 3.0 they made alex normal and savage. To allow anyone to see the story and give hardcore players the challenge they wanted.
The respect that XIV has for the entirety of the FF universe is something marvelous. There is no FF that is as FF as XIV.
And the saddest thing is so many hardcore FF fans won't even play it lmao
@@EikoHarvey that is truly sad
@@EikoHarvey I would not define me as hardcore fan, but yeah sadly i have played all FF games besides XI and XIV, because they are mmorpgs.
Some people consider FFXIV fans fake FF fans. For some reason
@@jacobkern2060 those are usually the semi purists, now the REAL purists tell you you’re not a real fan if you only played games past ff7
i cant believe they actually brought this theme back to life. I was here like "wait... 'The Extreme'? no way" cause i had no idea, it's been months since i finished Endwalker and kinda entered an "hiatus" on playing XIV. Hearing this again brings me so many good memories i actually got goosebumps
Yup! If the comments haven't led you on, this is the OST that plays during Phase 2 of E12S! The hardest and final boss of the Eden Raids :D
This is Ultimecia's battle theme. But where is Ultimecia? Nowhere!
Fucking lame!
Next thing you know, they will add One Winged Angel to a random boss battle. 🙄
@@Ukaran True, but they get a pass since this is better than the original Extreme
@@poundtownlegend1564
This is just The Extreme with instruments. 🙄
It was inevitable... All the other FF8 themes had been used
I just noticed how her hair remains completely stiff all throughout her headache scene, and now I can't unsee it anymore
I've never noticed this until you said it.. now we're in the same boat 🙃
ugh me too ;-; now that you said it'll never be the same again. That must be a ton of stacked hair pray.
Ha damn! Weird since I've seen videos where it doesn't happen? :o
@@taco_sensei It must be because the player has fabric physics for NPCs turned off. That'd do it.
The time must have freeze her hair as well
"I am Gaia, mine is the seat of Loghrif..." Chills every time.
This was so hype to listen to whilst progging e12s. It's prob one of my fav songs in game.
All the FF8 music being used in XIV is just giving me so much nostalgiaaaaaa~
Really love the build-up in the beginning until it drops to the actual beats.
Gaia also looks kinda like Rinoa a bit too. @_@
@@vampiresln1 Rinoa if she went goth GF.
A lot of her clothing reminds me of Squall. It's a nice blend of Rinoa and Squall.
I like the arpeggiated chords that I think I will learn on guitar...
It's a guitar build up... specifically nylon string guitar. I guess there's a 12 note piano arpeggio too
Futures Rewritten Ultimate.
Oh my god this means we're getting another rendition of The Extreme right? right??? im so excited
>Basic Relativity
"Okay, so this is the mechanic for the fight, and it's gonna show up again but more complicated, it's just Light Rampant/Icelit or Temporal Stasis or Hello World--"
>'Intermediate' Relativity
[*Unbridled fear*]
the hardest part is finding the right spot for fire on advanced the floor feels too similar to me aaaaaaaaaa
Intermediate relativity is actually the simplest to do
@@MelonMuncherChicken (psst. the punchline is 'intermediate' as a name implies the existence of the mechanic happening a third time, which usually doesn't happen in cases like Temporal Stasis or Hello World or other 'this is the end of raid tier boss doing a bunch of crazy things all at once' mechanics)
Funny thing all the realtivites are easier than the ones you mention lol. I find hello world way more tricky than the 3 realtivites mixed.
basic relativity is the hardest one, the others are very easy to do and could exist in an extreme trial
"Past, Present, Future.... Infinite possibilities, condensed into a single moment.
Pain shall be fleeting, Joy shall be lasting. As I wish so shall the river of time flow.
Your presence only deepens my solitude. I shall erase you and know unending bliss.
You shall never take my memories away from me again! Disappear!!"
I'm glad that they paid homage to Ultimecia without the actual character showing up.
Honestly, even if you don't have the actual character around, they could have done a better job with Gaia's deisgn. They did an awesome job with Ryne/Shiva/Hydaelyn, I won't lie when I say I'm disappointed they didn't put more effort in Gaia's.
This is how they sshould do more references and crossovers by taking the ideas of things instead of whatever delta and sigmascape was like what if instead of just being a simulation the phantom train is a thing in the world of ffxiv instead
@@LadCarmichael U mean the char design or the battle?
A FFXIV Lore friendly ultimecia we got everything about her minus the model
@@LadCarmichael Nomura's design. They were super honored to get him design gaia + boss gaia so they gave him all the freedom. Personally I love both
Still surreal we got a The Extreme remix before One Winged Angel at any form lol i fucking love it
Enough of VII in other games, we have the weapons and that's great and enough xD
They are saving it. I'm willing to bet my account that the next fight with Zenos is gonna have One Winged Angel as ost
@@n30sp4rk I'm not so sure actually - it might sample it, but I'd sooner think they'd give Zenos his own theme. There's really not much of a comparison between the two aside from "long hair and wields a big katana," which Zenos isn't even doing now. And he certainly isn't a one winged angel, it just wouldn't make a whole lot of sense without some prior direct reference to 7 specifically.
The Extreme is the better track of the two anyways, so I'm happy with it.
Man, I regret not doing savage raids at all now. This song fuckin bops
This music. Finally, my two favourite Final Fantasies VIII and XIV are compressed into one masterpiece.
Hehe. Compressed.
1:35 - That's a well-timed raid-wide AOE with that crescendo in the brass section. Well done.
@Fire & Air Yeah. It actually starts around there. Oops.
don't forget to add the rhythmic timing of that raid-wide AOE castbar besides her targeted name @ 1:30
Gaia: I shall restore the power of Darkness to this star!
Me: I'll never let y-...wait...That's...that's literally what I came to this world for. Shit, go ahead. Why the fuck would I stop you?
The Ascian in me rejoices.
"hey, uh, exactly how much darkness we talking about? You planning on a Flood of Darkness, or kinda just bringing back the darkness that was stripped from this world, bringing it back into balance?"
"The second one, obviously!"
"...carry on, then! Don't see much reason for us to fight, that's kinda why we're here after all"
_"thank_ you! Now, where was I?"
@@jacobsiron6929 Definitely Not Fendaniel: *"You do recall that this individual just killed Mitron in front of you, yes?"*
Precisely.. arent we shadowbringers hahahaha
I AM GAIAMECIA! TIME SHALL COMPRESS, ALL EXISTENCE DENIED!
First it was Than'jinnocence and now it's Gaiamecia.
@@Bruh-nx9hc Thanc'Ranthry
One of only two Final Fantasy villains to have their big master plan to destroy the world actually succeed...Too bad she didn't count on plucky teenage heroes being able to use the Power of Friendship to survive Time Compression and confront her in the new world so they could kill her and undo said Time Compression >.>
@@TransientWitch Final Fantasy main antagonists are allergic to teams of plucky teenagers, that's why they consistently lose despite gaining near omnipotence in the endgame.
@@Bruh-nx9hc True, must be something in the water?
Gaia : *Has re-awoken to her true self as an Ascian, literally destroying any semblance left of the Gaia we knew, making her our enemy*
WoL : YIPPEE! WE WON!
Savage isn't canon though? xD the questline to unlock the Savages is a crystal who has recorded your battles with the raids, but has recorded them at a much higher intensity and allows you to relive them :')
@@asinga_tv Savage is often basically a "what-if' that could have happened, or perhaps happened in another timeline.
@@kiraleshoth occasionally it's someone FAFO-ing too
the guitar gave me goosebumps
The guitar is giving me serious The Secret World vibes -- ruclips.net/video/LfF3WzqJgOQ/видео.html especially
Finally! A good remix of The Extreme!
Also, I love that several of her Hammer attacks are named for FFXI Hammer Weaponskills. Shellbuster, Black Halo, Spirit Taker...
You gotta listen to Black Mages’ remix man. Extreme gotta be done with Metal.
Actually find it discomforting there aren’t electric guitars in this mix.
@@DarthAlphaTheGreat that's a terrible take. Don't agree at all.
@@silverancient7840 Nah we can disagree.
I like the Black Mages' remix, but this cleaves closer to original. They both have their merits, but personally, I prefer this one.
BM version just felt like it was trying TOO hard to be metal, and lost something in the process. (Also just remembered Spirit Taker was a Staff WS. Close enough.)
the editing and timing on this video with syncing the crescendos and parts where the music gets intense with the start of the fight/the big mechanics is SO GOOD
happy coincidences haha
The Extreme is one of my favorite tracks from final fantasy as a whole.
I thought the Black Mages rendition was spectacular, but this version is so insanely well thought out and put together that I can not stop getting chills and I have listened to it about 15 times consecutively today
I love how Savage is essentially playing out some bard's fanfic.
Edit: Forgot, Bard is for Extreme. lol Still pretty much playing out a fanfic, albeit a very good fanfic.
The fuck are you on about? This arc has nothing to do with bard we are experiencing edens crystallized memories of our fights.
@@fleeplayTV now, take your pills, be calm and think about the true meaning of what windy said, even without bard, we know that bards tend to exaggerate the stories, so it makes sense
@@amonlua3494 withing the context of this tier of savage what windy said has no correlation no matter how much your narcissistic attitude tries to spin it around.
@@fleeplayTV now google what narcissistic means and use a proper word instead of splitting shit over people
To be fair, the bard indeed doesn’t have anything to do with Eden’s savages. They come from the warped memory crystals recovered from Eden :P
in the lore, lohgrif was going to be zodiarks heart but elidibus went instead
@Squeezel DEY TERK ER JERB
Admittedly in hindsight, the fact Gaia's name is that of a Greek dirty should have been a big giveaway she was an ascian after learning that detail with emet selch/hades
@@rexex345 *wol meets some rando*
rando: Hello, my name is Hera
wol: *ACTIVATES EX-COWORKER ASSASINATION MODE*
@Squeezel oh man! they took his jahb?
@@rexex345To be fair, Eden's Promise is the moment that was actually established - Hades's name is a reference to a recurring FF boss, and the only other Ancient whose name we knew before this point was Hythlodaeus, whose name has nothing to do with Greek myth and references Utopia instead.
One of my favorite remixes of The Extreme - I love the stylistic links with the XIV orchestration of Force Your Way with the piano, horns, and opera, while still being balanced with the stylish synths of the original. And not to mention the guitars, mmmph! Soken remixing Uematsu is the perfect match.
And the haunting echo of "Fithos Lusec Wecos Venosec" which is almost indiscernible at the beginning of the track, replete with the jangling bells from the original. This remake is bliss.
Funny that you mentioned that since both Force Your Way and The Extreme in FFXIV were arranged by the same person, Daiki Ishikawa. Hence, a similar musical style.
i love so much how the music kicks up perfectly as the first relativity almost starts at 2:54, it really makes it feel like a crazy mechanic
I love the subtle ffviii “draw” animation from 1:03-1:08
holy s*** you're right! didn't even notice
it's used all through the 1st phase too, it even uses 'junction'
@@maybayV2 and shockwave pulsar 😋😋😋
She uses Draw/Junction in the non-Savage version of the fight to throw Primal ults at you, too
I will always have fond memories of this song. Edenmorn was the first savage tier I cleared and I met a lot of wonderful people because of it. I never would have imagined raiding savage before then, and now I can’t imagine playing FF14 without it
I love all of the FF8 homages in Shadowbringers T_T
This almost motivates me to try extreme and savage stuff. . . Or maybe I'll just settle for listening to the music here, where it's safe.
Extreme isn’t too bad at all. Savage is a cut more difficult and you’ll want to find a static group
Extremes are really simple mechanic wise. Savage is still timelined and can be learned from ton of guides and kill PoV videos. Give it a try! Savage/ex can be both cleared by casual player too.
@@phageling9949 you absolutely do not need a static to do savage
@@rockoutloud2112 Not after a while tho. But since we're still in the first weeks, theres a million different tactics to do the same mechanic and a static is the easiest to prog with. You'll be on the same page all the time
@@yraco1232 I've already done 9 10 and 11 in pf this patch, it's not that bad, early in a patch cycle players are better than later in the cycle. Obviously statics have benefits but not even close to necessary.
Why does this song still GET YOU SO HYPE?! Such an underappreciated banger!
The bass is so good in this
OG had a better bassline. This one got rid of the bass in the "breaks" and replaced with with violin
Gaia on E2S be like "This isn't even my final form".
*spam Quietus*
Healers : *E2S soft enrage flashback*
Correction: Soken be like "This isn't even my final form"
@@balazsszucs7055 soken deez nuts
Say what you will about Final Fantasy VIII, but you can't deny the music in that game was fucking amazing
Say what I will? Fine
FFVIII WAS FUQQING AMAZING!!!!
and greatly underrated
@@kiriuxeosa8716 I will say what i want too
& i Foxxing agree with you FFVIII FECKING ROCKED. In the PAL regions at least it garnered all the positivity it deserved.
FF8's story was actually awesome and Ultimicia is an interesting AF character
I'm disappoint we didn't get man with the machine gun
The real raid song
Congrats on clear! I can also agree that this is one of my favorites sounds to listen to when progging.
I entirely misread the last word there, at first.
@@kierafurneaux3172 I'm glad I'm not the only one with dark internet history
Heard the theme and i genuinely feared for my life
Very good and faithful rendition of the original. Great stuff.
Indeed! The only disappointment was no choir voices at the start. I felt that gave a nice build up to suspense.
@@ryanrushford7918 i noticed that too, but i think they just moved them to during the intro? you can hear some from 0:12 - 0:15
@@auralyss Ohhh yeah, well spotted, thanks for that! The choir throughout the rest of song is just amazing too
did this boss with the surround sound on once, friend was watching and perked up looked at me straight in the eye and went this is FF8?!??!?!???! i nodded now hes playing this game and discovering many awesome things.
I love that the Luffy cosplayer in the background looks like he's trying to get ready to go into Gear 2nd. :D
Definitely expecting this after all the other ff8 music appearances
Yes! I kinda wished they had premonition aswell, but im happy regardless!
...Welp, that explains the wibbly wobbly time magic.
Oh man, Soken covered The Extreme? Fuck ya! Love what he did with it.
He changed very little of it.
@@Ukaran He changed enough for me to appreciate the differences.
Soken didn’t even remix this. That’s why it sounds good.
@@DerekDirk-eb8dj While it is true that this one isn't by him Soken's remixes are good too, what you on lol. His FFIV boss theme arrangement is great or his FF6 boss theme arrange for SB, that one is amazing also done by Soken. Everyone on the XIV music team is great with these arranges, they all manage to have a cohesive style despite being different people, shows how in tune they are with eachother.
@@SilverwingedBat of course it’s my opinion, but I just find him so… forgettable and bland compared to Hamauzu, Shimumuta and Uematsu. High bar of course
This has me sooo HYPED to start savage practise.
Omg omg omg, they used The Extreme. My life is happier now.
Almost all eden raids have ff8 orchestrated music
The whole of E12s is a great fight.
ehhhh i strongly prefer p1 mechanically to p2 although the music for p2 is great.
Damn, my 2nd favorite FF Theme, second to the prologue... One of my EXTREME game moments was when fighting Ultimecia, almost all resources exhausted then she hits the entire party with that 1HP attack... Fortunately for me, everyone triggered their limit breaks because of that and it was enough to kill her.
One of the best fights....hell....raids Ive ever played. Music just makes it 10x better. I may need to visit this gsme again I had such a blast
Damn soken went hardcore with this one
Pretty sure this wasn't Soken.
Hearing my favorite final boss theme ever remade so faithfully with such love and care brought me to tears a little ngl.
Thanks, Soken.
Awww
I really did expect her to turn into Ultimecia there.
well she did, only in the name tho
You know what would make this song cooler? If it came out that Soken brought Uematsu on to hit those synthetic keyboard notes. =o
did anyone notice that at 1:03 she is literally "drawing" power from her ascian memories?
as in, that is the same animation used to "draw" magic in FF8
you gotta hand it to these folk, they really sweat the details on this stuff
Cast, Stock and Junction had the same effect in the first phase, but it's still great.
Yeah, in the fight she has a buff called "Junction Lohgrif"
When I needed to be home in less than 30mins I listened to this.. works every time.. it just pumps up adrenaline.. lol
I felt so silly when someone pointed out to me that Artemis + Gaia kinda makes Artemis-ia, which would just be Ultimecia sounded out.
Ultimecia is a translation error of Artemesia already in FF8, Artemesia being another name for Artemis (the Greek God), so it very much IS a fight against Ultimesia.
@@glanier92 Ah wait, so like the Aeris/Aerith thing?
@@seablade214 Arutimishia is how her name is spelled in Japanese. Arut is often translated from japanese to english as Ult Which is how Ultimecia is called Ultimecia in english and french. While Spanish chose to take the Translation of Arutimishia and make it Artemisa. Depending on how you look it it. While Arutimishia could end up being based on Artemis. In the context of FF8 story with Ultimecia being the "Final" Sorceress, wanting to avoid her doom by compressing time. Ultimare seems to be where Arut comes from. Ultimare being latin for "to be final, come to an end" As in Japanese ULTIMA is actually Arutema. Reason for this is japanese language does not have Ls. So when you hear Engrish. as the internet calls it. Ls give off a "RU" noise. so it changes how you say Ultimare to Arutimare. Fun fact of the day
@@DarthXelion Also, the Spell Ultima is spelled a-ru-te-ma in japanese katakana so Ultimecia should be A-ru-te-mi-shi-a. But the official katakana is a-ru-ti-mi-shi-a so it's kind of strange haha
First time I see XIV's Shockwave Pulsar brought me back so many memories
Hyped for this in the 7.1 Ultimate
Gaiamecia 😏
We have Time, we have Shockwave Pulsar and we have Hell's Judgment. This song is so exciting ❤️
this is the best remix of the extreme hands down
Voidwalker on steroids.
Consider this: Artemis + Gaia = Artemisia = Ultimecia
Yeah, that was supposed to be her name. Which would have mad a lot of sense. Besides being the goddess of hunt, she was also the goddess of the moon and magic.
Little thing I love that is a small FF8 reference. 1:04 - as we’ve seen through FF8 and some in FF14, she’s using draw and is junctioning from her power as an Ascian.
My guy, some of those Shikuchi’s were suicidal! Pog to your internet connection 😂
OHHHHHH This is one of my favorite songs! YESSSS.
the extreme always gives me goosebumps
As a fellow raider, i KNOW that last 5% push mustve been soooooooooooooooooooo hype for yall. Million years late but good shit.
This battle looks to badass. This version of The Extreme is top notch it would be gnarly to see Ultimecia become a boss in FF14 like how: Kefka, Exdeath, Dark Cloud, and Ultima were brought in via events and raids but cool seeing those in FF14 regardless
I mean, with Hell's Judgement, Shockwave Pulsar, time compression, etc., this boss is basically Ultimecia in all but name.
man this makes the last bit of normal e12 look so underwhelming for me. i love this mix and transformation so much as a finale to this story!!
Okay, I already knew that Masayoshi Soken is a God amoung Musicians but it's always nice to be reminded of that fact ^^
Really need to give Nobuo the credit on this one. Although Soken did a nice job puttting his style on it.
@@xxomnicloudxx everyone already know uematsu is god tier, I mean the music here is bases on his work, but soken has done a very good job giving the already good music of uematsu a touch of his own and making amazing covers, and he deserves the recognition
@@xxomnicloudxx true, Uematsu made a Masterpiece with this Track but you just have to be a God to iterate on that just right not to make it suck^^
if uematsu is the god, soken is the primal
So, FF8 music, and the ground is litteraly a ref to FF10 skill tree and enigma.... I love it.
actually it looks more of the glyphs used on the apocalypse spell used on ff8
FFVIII, imo, has one of best, if not the best soundtrack in the series.
Well it helps that a good portion of the soundtrack is hand picked the best from the rest of the series, but it’s still fantastic with all of the new stuff so that’s moot.
@Anonymous Turkey Well not really. No one ever really talks about music before VI. VII has it's good theme. IX most people don't mention when it comes to music. X brought in a new fanbase for the PS2 era, so it has it's fans. XII, people complained too much orchestra when it was released. XIII, well most people just hate everything about it.
I was initally upset we didn't get TIME KOMPRESSION in E12N, but holy crap, E12S looks like utter insanity!
god this fight looks so freaking fun???
Gaia being an Ascian reincarnation makes her relevant to future plot points...and given that in time if she can master her Ascian powers, she can visit us in the Source, and might bring Ryne with her too...might be a thing before 6.0?
I doubt it, anything that happens with the raids is almost always its own separate plot point that never leaks into the story, the only exception being kind of omega, because Ironworks used technology based on him to travel through time and space to the first with Graha.
@@generaln0nsense848 You literally have to do CT in order to continue MSQ now. It's entirely plausible depending on where they go that they do the same for eden.
Gaia has been so popular among fans, she is an extreamly rare example of a raid character having VO, can traverse through dimensions once she's mastered her ascian powers, is designed by goddamn Nomura, has a tie in the ascian lore (seat of Logrif)...
She is definetly coming back as a main story character. Would be such a waste if not.
@The Killcode The made you clear at least 5.3 patch to join the final part of eden so on old live letters they said eden raid is canon on the story of shadowbringers
@@generaln0nsense848 with them making crystal tower required for ShB now, they can easily do the same with Eden for a future expansion, maybe not 6.0 right away, its a possibility still
this music is so stupid good
Bruh
Kinda reminds me of Bravely Default's boss themes at its fastest parts, and that's great
I love when the abilities match up with the song
Man wish at least the normal had this part but oh well.
Still love it!!!
This makes want to hear a remake of Dark Messenger in 14.
I can't wait to farm E12S for Blue Magic in 5 years! :P
XDDDD or unsync lvl 110 XDDDDD
It's probably more like a year and a half since it's getting upped to Level 70 in January or February.
Now we just need man with a machine gun to finish up all top music from ff8 in ff14
Can I just say Gaia's outfit is God damn amazing. Glamor please!!!
Makes sense she has the extreme as her time. She is ultimecia (younger) all of the the eden raids hinted at it
1:19
God, I love this part.
Can't wait to see how mindfuck the Ultimate version will be of this fight.
thx so much, i was waiting for someone to make a music video ^^
i wish there was a voiced version now i wanna hear all her lines but i do know im too bad at the game to ever see it in person
And in Japanese preferably
You could look up clear videos by some other FFXIV RUclipsrs and Twitch streamers, like Mister "Bitch Pog" Happy.
@@jacobkern2060 you don’t like happy? D: what did he do?
@@yuzuichikawa No, it's a quote from this tier's prog, specifically E10S. Blame Tate.
All the clear videos I've found have everyone and their grandmother talking over the gameplay.
Haven't seen an enrage this harsh since o12s...
Well it is the final raid tier boss like o12s lol
4s was kinda the same with all the Tumults and busters?
You don't think shivas check was harsh on launch?
Its launch day/week, ppl are doing this at 510 ilevel. It is also a short fight because of door boss situation, 8 mins 48 secs for the kill on this vid. I assume enrage with cast bar going all the way and then an animation is 8 mins 55 secs or maybe even 9 minutes, so a kill at 510ish ilevel without fully optimized strats was done with 7-12 secs to spare. It is gonna be rather OK once ppl are at 530 ilevel.
Not that harsh compared to E4S World First iirc
I'm so happy they made this raid a FF8 reference
I like this version better than the "canon" ending.
Triple -> Rinoa
Rinoa -> Draw -> Apocalypse
Cast -> 3x Apocalypse
Ultimecia -> Hell's Judgement
Squall -> Renzokuken -> Lion Heart
Now you must fight Charlotte Satre, regardless of how you feel about it
Fuck that, she'd murder me
Such a good take on "The Extreme"!
It's basically the same music. Very little was changed.