The Ten Best Deer Cartridges: My List vs Yours
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Unfortunately not everyone can build huge stables of hunting rifles. Thus, the 30-06 is by and far the ubiquitous deer cartridge for a myriad of reasons. North Woods guys like it because they have big bodied deer that even with proper shot placement seem to absorb energy. They also like it because they can take it after bear or moose with the same loads. It works down south great as well where brush is thick and we don’t want deer to run far. If recoil is too much drop to 165 or even 150gr, especially for deer those are perfect in the ‘06 for deer. It’s still in the top 3-5 calibers taken to Alaska.
As to the potential for a new 25 cal. For a little over 2 years now Hornady has offered their ELDx in .25 @ 110gr. Very curious projectile considering that no current factory chambered rifle has a fast enough twist rate to properly stabilize that heavy and long. I’ve long suspected that Hornady has a 257 PRC in the works.
My go to is 270. I don’t care if it’s seen as “outdated” by some hunters it’s a legendary deer cartridge.
100% the best all around cartridge for anything.
Don't worry, It's younger than the 30-06If it gets the job done, stick with it👍
I don’t think anyone has ever said that.
@@WillyK51Ballistically .270 Win beats 30-06 Springfield in everyway.
Best
Been using the old .270Win since 1965 down here in New Zealand. I'm 77 y/o now and my Carl Gustaf .270 is still my favourite by far. Thanks for a great show.
My list goes from .30-30 to .30-06 because that’s all I’ve got 😂
That's all you need
👍
Exactly the two that I have!
Love them both
@@ShopHumor my late father only ever carried one firearm.. his Winchester model 70 chambered in 30-06 Springfield!
He'd grumble every time I purchased another firearm.. he definitely didn't agree with having multiple firearms for deer hunting 😁
Waste of money in his eyes.. he did like the 270 Winchester as well.. that's what my grandfather always carried :)
For my then young son, I bypassed the 243 and went with a 6.5x55 Swedish. Light recoiling and yet with enough sectional density in the 140 gr to make sure it makes an exit wound. The 6.5 Creedmore is similar and a little faster as factory loaded but wasn't available then. The Swede never failed to get the job done.
I seriously was considering getting one until I realized that x55 SE is different than x55 Swedish and ya can't really tell if the ammo you're buying is for the older pressure chamberings or not because both seem to say '6.5x55 swedish' on the boxes of ammo, so I let it be. It's a darling lil' cartridge from everything else I've seen.
@@zebrobson2639 If used in a modern (non miltary) rifle, there is no concern. If you have an old milsuplus rifle, stick to mild 6.5x55 loads. I have a Model 70 Fwt. No problem with any factory loadings.
Picking the 6.5 over the 7-08 for deer hunting is criminal.
For some reason it’s what the majority of the people think so let’s leave it at that
The problem is more about ammo availability than anything. Developing more .25-06 and 7mm-08 ammo would put them in the hands of thousands of hunters.
Also, when you walk in the gun store and 80% of the rifles are 6.5 CR may have something to do with it. Surely people vote for what they have.
As a new hunter who has yet to go out on his first hunt, I went with 308 for my first hunting rifle.
I mainly was listening to the wisdom of an experienced friend who’s logic was: “Its not the best cartridge at anything but its availability and versatility is what makes it the best choice. You can walk into any tiny little hunting supply store hundreds of miles away from the city and be almost certain that they will stock 308. Its big enough to take larger game but also fine for smaller stuff and the price per shot is about as good as it gets for a cartridge of that size”
exactly why works for many but not for long years unless minor hobby.
@@ryancooper3629 good first rifle choice, it’s like the 3006 very versatile.
I'll bet a lot of money that you won't ever regret the purchase. You may branch out over time out of curiosity or other reasons, but you'll never regret having the 308.
I did the same. Don't regret the decision at all! It's such a flexible caliber.
I’m sure you will be happy with your choice. Anecdotally, during ammo shortages, I have almost always been able to find 270, even when 308 is sold out.
My dad bought both his boys (me and my brother) Remington 700's in .243 with 4x scopes in the 60's . He said these bullets are crazy fast and the rifle won't kick much. He was a smart man.
both of those guns still kicking?
@@thegamingfish547 I had to sell both of them a few years back. They were both in excellent condition.
And how many deer did y'all lose?
@@cjr4497 Are you sure he lost any? Why, if you didn't take the shots? Just curious.
@@cjr4497.243 is a excellent deer cartridge. Just gotta be competent.
We owe a lot to the 30-06. The 270 is a necked down 30-06, so is the 25-06. The 280 AI is an Ackley Improved 280 Remington, which is a necked down and stretched out 30-06. I favor the 280 AI due to superior bullet availability in the 7mm (0.284") caliber. The 270 is right there behind it; hindered mostly by bullet availability in 0.277". Maybe the new 6.8 Western will revive bullet Manufacturers to step up options in 0.277".
I hope so on the 6.8 helping .277!
western not received even mediocre support from industry in 3 years big hope. I think a great option for variety of uses but requires reloading gear, factory ammo and a much bigger varied rifle options. my opinion. Take a 280AI and add a 6 creed that covers so much for a hunter unless specialised requirements. factory ammo options for 6.8 western not being supplied by the ones that so many want.
With the XM7 being chambered in a 0.277" round, 6.8×51 (277 Fury), renewed interest in the caliber seems inevitable. Nearly every US service rifle cartridge going back to the 45-70 has become a popular civilian round, the exception being the short lived 30-03 (the 30-40 Krag is waning in popularity now, but was big in its time).
The 7x57 gave birth to them all
@@recurrenTopologymeh . It doesn’t do anything that’s mind blowing . I think it will fade away . stupid of the military to do that
I've been a 30.06 man since my youth. My grandfather gifted my father a Remington 721 upon marrying my mother in 48. I've hunted with it all my life. Plenty accurate! Never attempted any shot past 300yrds because there wasn't any need for it! Never needed any fixing other than regular cleaning after use. I've kept because it seemed a shame to put away a perfectly good tool for another just because of the shine.
Me and the grandsons still hunt with it now.
the 721 and 722 were way better built actions than the 700s their fit and finish was far superior and they shot great.
In Canada the 303 British still has a historic hold on big game hunting. It’s not flashy but it’s a reliable deer killer. Lots old sporterized Lee enfield are still in the hands of deer hunters of the north
@@DireWolf28 my three brothers and I.. all harvested our first deer with the 303 British :)
Still a great choice for deer hunting 😁
My '43 No 4 Mk 1 is the most requested gun for visitors to shoot. Love the sights but the battle/base aperture zeroes at ~ 300 yd. No prob, as raising the ladder and setting it to 100 puts it right in the bull there. I use a slip on pad to gain LOP and hope to mod a mag follower to limit capacity to 3 or 4 rounds.
@@johncmitchell4941 nice 🙂
My father's is the Jungle Carbine.. with the peep sight and ladder as well. It's my younger brother's now ❤️
@@blackie1of4 got to love the enfields! Accurate, superbly reliable, and still very affordable when compared to modern rifles.
@@johncmitchell4941 I have a few sporterized no 4's. Love them
As a handloader I can tailor all the rounds in your favorites list,but my favorite is 7mm Mauser in my M70 featherweight. Working like magic since 1892!
Top Five is more unambiguous. In no particular order; 30-06, 270 Win, 308 Win, 30-30, 243 Win, bonus 6.5 Creed. I don’t think anyone can really argue much with those.
@@JimYeats It's the internet, so someone can argue, but I think you nailed it. Those are the best.
7mm-08 is like a hidden treasure here in the northeast. Oddly seems to be more of a regional popularity. Glad this is now my main deer cartridge.
This list shows that people aren’t drinking the industry kool aid. That’s a good thing.
Maybe not in rifles, but in handguns? They can't manufacture kool-aid fast enough.
Because most hunters are fudds, not an insult, that's just true. I'd wager that most replies came from people over the age of 45 (with a possible exception of the 6.5 Creedmoor and the .350 legend)
The newer cartridges do the jobs of older cartridges better while also allowing better selection of projectile styles and often more efficiently.
The only benefit of more "established" cartridges is that USUALLY the ammo is more available. Notice that I said "usually".
I can't find .30-06, .270, or 7mm-08. But I CAN find 6.5 Creedmoor, all of the PRC cartridges, and most of the Nosler cartridges. Literally no one I know below the age of 50 owns a .270 or .30-06, the only reason I have one is because it inherited it from my grandfather and I'll never use it because I can't get replacement parts for it and it's already damaged (not seriously, and nothing that would cause a safety issue, but I'm not eager to make it any worse either) it's a mantelpiece now.
Older cartridges will still stick around for a long time because they are already "established" ("entrenched" would be a better word) but newer cartridges do everything they can do better. Most of it isn't marketing hype, these new cartridges are actually better than the older designs, so much so that rifle manufacturers have had to move away from SAAMI specs for old cartridges to make them competitive (Browning offering X-Bolts in faster twist rates for legacy cartridges) our modern cartridge choices are designed specifically for newer long, sleek, high BC bullets, BUT they can still shoot older bullet designs just as well as the older cartridges. Older cartridge designs don't have that compatibility built in without building a custom rifle.
@@Kross8761 You know what's better than a newly celebrated cartridge that you can find at your local store, and the average age of whatever fudds you're referencing?
Making a firearm you already have, chambered in an "entrenched" cartridge more accurate. Free float the barrel. Change the stock. Get a trigger job or replacement trigger. Use better brass, and build custom handloads.
Expensive? Not nearly as much as buying a whole new factory platform in a newly celebrated cartridge which provides nearly no guarantee you'll have better accuracy than the thing you already have.
There's a dozen factors related to performance of "fudd cartridges", none of them cartridge-related, that can contribute to better accuracy and performance and none of them solved by changing the whole platform to a new caliber/cartridge.
Need proof? There's muzzle loader people getting sub-MOA at long range on a regular basis, none of it having anything to do with cartridges.
People are always looking to name excuses to spend heaps of money to bypass working on themselves, on their platform improvements, to validate the fact they just want whatever the market is cranking out lately.
@@Kross8761hahahaha someone has FEELINGS. Looks like I struck the nerve of a kool aid drinker.
@@Kross8761 You know what's better than a newly celebrated cartridge that you can find at your local store, and the average age of whatever fuddoes you're referencing?
Making a firearm you already have, chambered in an "entrenched" cartridge more accurate. Free float the barrel. Change the stock. Get a trigger upgrade. Use better brass, and build custom handloads.
Expensive? Not nearly as much as buying a whole new factory platform in a newly celebrated cartridge which provides nearly no guarantee you'll have better accuracy than the thing you already have.
There's a dozen factors related to performance of "fuddy cartridges", none of them cartridge-related, that can contribute to better accuracy and performance and none of them solved by changing the whole platform to a new caliber and cartridge.
Need proof? There's muzzle loader people getting sub-MOA at long range on a regular basis, none of it having anything to do with cartridges.
People are always looking to name excuses to spend heaps of money to bypass working on themselves, on their platform improvements, to validate the fact they just want whatever the market is cranking out lately.
Low drag projectiles is the result of radar-based R&D at manufacturers, and it requires fast-twist. Also propellants have improved. Otherwise, all other ballistic factors were figured out a century ago. One cannot forget, all cartridges were "new" at some point, you're just observing whatever is new to you, as nothing is inherently that new. Appreciate the history of how everything got here, and what are the best designs from over 100 years ago, and why they haven't gone anywhere.
Finally, learn animal anatomy (talk to taxidermists and butchers), learn what it takes to get a swift clean ethical kill on game, it's mostly not what the industry has entrenched everyone to think it is. Caliber means little. Cartridge means little. If you can deliver a projectile to the right spot at a chosen range, the rest isn't really all that hard.
1. 7mm-08 Remington
2. 30-06
3. 270 win
4. 35 whelen
5. 308 win
6. 25-06
7. 6.5 PRC
8. 6mm CM
9. 243 win
10. 45-70
7mm-08 is the GOAT
Yes, I am going to change from 30'06 to a 25'06. As I get older recoils bother me.
300 savage and 35 Remington
Glad to see someone else giving the shoutout to 35 whelen, .45-70. .35 Remington is another one of my favorites
As I was looking into building a rifle, I was *amazed* at the ammo prices AND barrel life for the 30-06 cartridge… that’s why it’s the greatest.
How many barrels have you burned out?
Hi from Australia, we have a tendency to go for 308 for just about everything.
Love your show
I agree that the 30.06 is a little to much power for a deer but not putting it on a top 10 list is a insult to the world of firearms and a insult for the past over 100 years that it has gone through two world wars and has taken just about almost every animal that walks the earth. This is like saying the 1911 does not deserve to be on the top 10 handguns ever created. The 30.06 does not need to prove itself anymore than it already has, a lot of people list the 30.06 as "the legendary whitetail cartridge" that's all I have to say about that 🤣🤣
1. .300 Savage
2. .300 Savage
3. .300 Savage
4. .300 Savage
5-10. .300 Savage
And the top 10 deer rifles...Savage Model 99.
For sure a classic deer cartridge !
6 ARC in a Howa mini action in the hands of my 11 yo is an absolute death stick on eastern whitetails… 95gr LRX with 32.5 gr of LVR is running just a hair under 3K. Extremely underrated cartridge from a public perception standpoint I feel like. I’ve had a gas gun for yotes for a couple of years now and I think everyone still thinks of it as an AR first round, but reloading it for a bolt gun is THE WAY.
I was shocked .243 wasnt on there also. For deer, yotes, and hogs i use a Redington 660 6mm rem and its always worked shooting a 85gr sierra gameking bthp.
I live and hunt in the West so my top ten is a little bit different 😊
1-257 Weatherby Magnum
2-7mm Remington Mag
3-270 Winchester
4-6.5 PRC
5-280 AI
6-25-06
7- 264 Winchester Mag
8-7mm-08
9-7mm PRC
10-30-06
Pretty solid list.
Can’t beat the 257 westherby
My list is a little different.
1. 270win
2. 6.5 prc
3. 7mm-08
4. 308win
5. 7rem mag
The .284 projectile is the king from way back !
Unfortunately, a lot of states don't allow .22 caliber rifles for big game. .243 is the minimum in many states.
Depending on distance : 30-30, 6.5 creed, 308, 270. They are all probably the cheapest too. They are also common for a reason. All these new exotic cartridges are a waste of money for the same effect, just less availability. Not worth it.
I'm new to hunting and picked the 270. I didn't see anything wrong with other cartridges and was originally going to get a 7mm-08 because of Ron Spomer but came across a great deal on a
.270. Flat shooting and ammo isn't insanely expensive.
How did the .243 NOT make this list?? That's insane. My list starts with the .243 for light recoil and factory ammo availability, 280 AI for the light recoil, BC, and reload friendliness, 6.5CM for reaching out further, and the 7mm-08 for the relatively light recoil and versatility on game from sheep to elk. I have not fired the .22CM, but WOW, the BC and speed are insane. 600fps faster than the 22-250 inside of 500 yards WITH a heavier grain bullet capable of taking medium game. Will be interesting to see if the cartridge takes off in popularity, but it certainly has potential.
Glad to see the .270 get some love!
243 should absolutely be on this list. 270 is my choice too though. And the reason 6.5 creedmoor is so low is because not everyone cares about the new flashy stuff. I know I have zero interest in ever owning one
Cool it’s still very popular for deer even if you aren’t interested on it
I think the reason 30/06 is so popular is it's a do everything Caliper you can take whitetail in the deep South and also perfectly able to take a elk and other large game.
Good to see the 270 on the list
30-30 is an ideal 125 yds and under cartridge for Whitetail…it’s been doing its job for well over a century.
I bet 99% of the people who put the 280 AI probably haven’t even shot a 280 AI
@@andrewwarren3891 I have one and if is awesome . For deer, I load it light for less recoil. For my Nilgai hunt, it will be loaded to nearly 7 PRC velocity.
Never shot a AI but own a 280 Rem and it's my #1 so it only makes sense a 280 AI would be on here too...
I've never seen it tbh..
I own one and I use it every month. And PO Ackleys gun shop was inSLC UT I remember seeing it when I was a kid . I like it for reloading. And it shoots great I have shot rock chucks at 960yds
I didn't vote but I am looking at the 280AI myself. I have a 7mm/08 and a 7mm Rem mag. Reason why I am looking at it is it's easier on the brass to reload than the 7 mag/less recoil and gives more punch/range than the 7mm/08. It's a logical choice for me to consider. As far as shooting one, no I haven't but I also have bought other calibers before ever shooting them and been happy with them. I'm not sure if you are knocking the 280AI but if you aren't happy with it tell us why.
Yah most of us can't afford 10 different hunting rifles. 308, 3006, 270 all can shoot almost anything
Gotta work hard to play hard.
and a deer or hog won’t be able to tell the difference.
@@CamBrann you gotta work hard just to afford a house and raise a family. Play comes like 5th on the list of importance
@@John_439 I get that, I guess it’s just how one decides to set his life up. For instance I commercial fish most of the year then guide in the off season.
as long as you're 150 yards and in, just about anything will get the job done.
The 270 destroys the 6.5PRC. Cheaper ammo in a myriad of loads. Availability greater. Get more rounds in the gun.
I think they are both great. If you have a 6.5 PRC there is no need to get a .270 win. And the same can be said the other way around. 6.5 PRC is the superior target cartridge ballistically, has better bullet selection and the higher BC bullets also have a better sectional density and all things being equal penetrate better on big game. But .270 I can find at my local walmart, can kill anything a 6.5 PRC can and I can use the brass for tons of cartridge conversions 😂 everyone should be happy with what they have.
@@TheCodyOwhat can u convert it too? And is there any cartidge you can convert its case to 6.5prc?
@@syednoori3799 you can make 25-06, 6.5-06 280 rem 280 ai 30-06 338-06 and probably 35 Whelen all out of 270 Brass. 6.5 PRC basically only has wildcat cousins as of now (25-6.5PRC and 7-6.5PRC) with the exception of 300 RCM and 338 RCM. I’ve heard you can make 300 and 338 RCM brass from 6.5 prc brass, I’d like to try though as I own a 338 RCM
I own a a 6.5 prc and I totally agree, the 270 is the better way to go. I love my prc but I'm sure I would have loved the 270 also. I may buy a classic winchester model 70 in 270 one day just seems right.
I completely agree with how logical and feasible the 270 win is, however I know one day Im going to spend too much money on a 6.5 or probably a 7 prc build and I can't wait!
My old 35 Remington
The best rifle for deer is the one I ironically tape to a truck grill before going to my favorite hunting spot.... next to the "beware of deer crossing" sign. Honestly, the insurance companys public records for deer related auto claims may in fact be the most comprehensive "hunting" guide ever published.
That's seriously creative thinking! 😎
The .270 130 for deer 150 for elk. My brother got an elk at almost 400 yard in an snow storm so bad we thought he missed because the carcass was nearly covered by the time we got to it.
As a Northwest Piedmont NC hunter, most shots are inside 150 yards, with the majority of those at 80 yards or less. The areas I hunt are in heavily wooded areas with some areas also having an open field. It is my experience that this is the norm in many areas up and down the Eastern Seaboard. Therefore, flat shooting long range cartridges aren't as important here as they are in states with a wide open topography. The exception being long open areas underneath power lines, and the Eastern NC corn & soybean fields which sometimes can be several hundred yard wide. Therefore the standard cartridges (30/30, 243, 308, 270, 30-06) work just fine.
You have a fantastic channel and I enjoy each and every presentation!!
For me, 243 is a top gun for whitetail.
Good video, interesting to see the choices that represent guys around the country. Something not mentioned- 30-30 is a good deer gun for still hunting especially in thicker woods. The short length is great for quick sighting. My 336 marlin is great, but my Winchester 94 trapper is the most comfortable and fun gun to carry in the woods.
Great job!
Here in Atlantic Canada, we don't have that many long range opportunities. Our mature bucks field dress at over 200 pounds. I also consider 243 as minimum for our big deer. Then if you look at factory load availability that pretty much eliminates everything on your list except 30-30, 270 Win, 25-06, 6.5 Creed and 6.5 PRC. All of the eliminated calibers have traditional popular calibers that best them. I understand you want something with lighter recoil for deer, but something like 22 Creed is far from ideal for bigger deer. I could understand if you want less recoil than a 308 Win and flatter trajectory than 30-30. That's the beauty of 7mm-08. You like to use 150 grain loads in your tables, but 120 or 140 grain bullet will do the job on deer and have less recoil. Back east, we don't have the luxury of broadside shots very often or even dialing a scope and setting up a solid rest. You will often have an angled snap shot and then you want penetration. So any of the traditional calibers between 243 and 30-06 will do the job and you pick the most powerful you can still shoot well in a light handy rifle and you're good to go.
If I still had bear dogs where sometimes things get a little western I would have a 760 game master barreled in 35 whelen A.I..
For deer
0-150yards
My top picks are
30-30 ,
223
300 BO
7.62 Russian
6.5 grendle.
0 to 500 yards my top picks are
25-06
308
270
280 AI
7 rem mag
In the Commie bullet I'm assuming that's the x39 flavor not the x54 right?
@@stinkyfungusI'd like to try my Mosin.
My tier list
1. 308 (Can't fail with this)
2. 30-06 (Too powerful sometimes but nothing it can't kill)
I literally don't know what the rest are
Where’s my 6.5 prc or creed?
Hi Jim, your videos are entertaining and informative. However, simply put, the best deer cartridge is the one a
Person is the most confident and accurate with. Regardless of caliber from .25 cal and up. The next factor is cost, not every one can afford the high end rifles in a special or popular caliber. Staying within personal limitations for accuracy and taking ethical shots also factors in. Keep making the great videos. Thanks.
Love my savage 99 lever in 300 savage.
Love my 270 with 130gr tsx. Browning xbolt hells canyon. Topped with leupold vx3hd.
Tough to beat!
270 is a fantastic choice for deer 🦌
Muh 270 Winchester Gang, sound off!
My first deer rifle was a sporterized Mauser 98 chambered in 7x57 Mauser when I was 14yrs. old in 1983. Bought it myself with my farming money as well as a Bushnell 3-9x32 scope for it. I just used Rem Core Lokt 140gr factory loadings. It wasn't the best grouping rifle in the world but it averaged 1.5"-1.75" at 100yds. It was very well used, but safe to use.
All I know is it was like magic pills those 7MM bullets. I dropped many deer with that rifle growing up until I had enough money and bought a Remington 7600 pump action in .270 Win. Honestly being a pump action it didn't really group any better than the old Mauser bolt gun, but it dropped a ton of deer too for many years. I loved the extra flat shooting range it gave me using 130gr bullets in those days. No fancy scopes or rangefinders in those days. If we wanted to know how long a field was or practice certain ranges we paced it off..lol! I liked 270 a lot as it shot flat like a 7 Rem Mag without the expense of the ammo or heft of a 24" barreled bolt gun back then. 7 Rem Mag is an awesome caliber in its own right however
I goofed and sold my Remington Model 7 stainless in 7MM-08 a few years back. It was a great all around lightweight mountain rifle for deer hunting. Been using just a plain old .308 Win. in a TC Venture 2 and a Savage 110 Tactical bench rifle bolt gun ever since as it was the most available ammo around here for a few years. I've never had a deer walk away from a hit with that caliber either. 9 times out of 10 it dropped mature northern bucks in their tracks with boring old .308 according to some writers these days, and if you know your drops it doesn't really matter if its a little more or less in normal hunting ranges as long as you know where your bullets are hitting, its on you, not the caliber.
All the standard calibers will get the job done I guess is what I'm saying. Shoot what you like and have and practice with it at all ranges you could possibly shoot while hunting to know your drops and hold as well as learn your wind drifts, or lead if needed and it will get the job done.
Have 2 Marlin 336's. One in 30-30, but that one usually sat at home. My second favorite was the 35 Remington, reloaded with a Speer 180 gr Grand Slam. Also occasionally carried the 30-30, or my older Ruger Model 77 with the tang safety in 30-06. My number one choice, originally being from the southern part of the Lower Peninsula in Michigan, is 12 guage.
270 win works for me. Have taken deer bear pigs and Elk with no problems 👍🏼
Took my buck this year in SC with 350 legend. With how dense the areas the deer live here are, 350 legend is perfect. The shot was at about 30 yards
A grandson took a doe today using 350 Legend from my CVA Scout. 75 yards. Sub-X took her heart and opposite leg out of service, but she still ran 65 yards.
@williamgaines9784 mine went about 100 yards but it stepped and turned as u shot so it won't from a broadside shot to a hard quartering away
@@Drakehilt I shot one end of last season, 1st of this year, with Win CopperXP at the same distance - almost exact spot- and it whent down like a 16 ton weight fell on it, not even a twitch...high shoulder puts their lights right out. The 65 yard run took an hour of chopping through briars to get to her. I think the grandson will try to keep his next shot in the high shoulder.😉
This list is showing that the people that watch this channel are all a bunch of gun nerds like myself 😊 all of them are great, and work like a charm on deer.
you forgot the 35 rem, 200 grain softpoint does massive damage definitley not a long range gun but gets the job done
Other than recoil the 7mag beats it in every way. Man love your content but you are definitely hung up on the latest and greatest. All the pistol grip stocks with flush cups and recoil pads and new cartridges that you always talk about I reckon are nice but my 1992 savage with my cheap Remington ammo seems to work good for the 5-10 deer I shoot a year and haven’t tracked a deer in 11 years🤷🏻♂️.
3:15 you mentioned something big from a major ammo manufacturer. I actually spoke with a Hornady rep last night at an event. He said they’re releasing some things this week . He said “game changer”. I rolled my eyes but I might be pleasantly surprised.
Are they re-releasing an existing cartidge as their own again?
@@joecoastie99 everything that can be done has been done by now. There’s some cool wildcats like 25 PRC that are interesting but probably wouldn’t do anything different than 257 WBY. There’s nothing left to develop in my opinion that could “change the game” Like you, I have my popcorn and welcome being surprised though.
Probably a new vax they are mandating for their workers again
I can use every one of them. Max distance is 200 yards. Currently using 270. Works like a charm. All i have hit, dropped on the spot
Well I know I’m late to the show but just let me throw this one out there my all time favorite deer cartridge is the 250 Savage 😳, I see you picked the 25 Creedmoor on your list (a wildcat) I can’t wait for Hornady to standardize it, I’m going to build one , 308 used to be my go to then 30 years ago I picked up a 250 Savage and fell in love!😳🤣🦌
If 300 savage isn’t on this list yall have fucked up.
I'm from the midwest
1- 30-06
2- 308 win
3- 300 WSM
4- 243 win
5- 6,5 CM
6- 25-06
7- 7mm REM Mag
8- 260 Rem
9- 220 swift
10- 22-250
I know I will be the odd man out, but I have exclusively used a 375 cheytac for my hunts for the last 6 years. I do a lot of mountain and desert hunting where being able to reliably take game at ranges over 1000yd can be the difference in a successful hunt and failure. If I were hunting in forests or crop fields where I wouldn't have to shoot beyond 400yd, I would probably go with 6.5 PRC.
After reading some of the comments i think a lot of people have not hunted enough to be making a good decision.
Waiting for that 280AI video thats coming. I have the 7mm Rem mag and 7mm/08 but once I get myself a 280AI I will let the other two go. I have noticed there doesn't seem to be a lot of middle ground when it comes to the 280, it seems to be either budget or top of the line. I would love the see the T3x have it.
Same
Why would you get rid of the 7 rem mag, when its ballistics stomp the .280 AI in every category???
@@kylecomeaux7880 reloading, a lot easier to reload without the belt. 280AI is more than enough to take elk, less recoil. 280AI, while not quite as much punch as a 7mm rem can be close if reloaded towards the upper end. On average 2” shorter barrel, plus in a T3x with laminated stock is lighter than my Weatherby Vanguard.
@@MegaLostOnei mean i guess, im one of those crazy mofos that has enough bullets to outlast the gun barrels life though 🤷🏻♂️. So reloading aint a big deal to me.
@@kylecomeaux7880 I understand. I guess that's why they make so many different flavors. Besides it's only a dream on my part for the T3x to be offered in it and I have considered getting a long action and having it rebarreled in it. Who knows what manufacturer it will be that he shows until it is uploaded.
I picked the 6.5CM when putting together my own deer rig. It hit the sweet spot between established cartridge (been around for 17 years now), available ammo (I've never been anywhere that doesn't stock it), and new/cool factor for me. Factory loads really aren't more expensive than 308 factory hunting loads, especially considering I don't stock 1000s of rounds. Maybe this will change decades down the road, but so far I have no regrets.
270 can’t be argued
Love my 280 ai. Set up for 195gr bergers., but not for deer. My deer catridge is a 257 roberts.
257 Robert's rocks!
Absolutely ❤
Thanks for featuring my comment/vote on the .270... made my day
Good list of options. Horses for courses. Not the same shooting a small blacktail or whitetail inside 100 yards as a 300+ pound muley at 500 yards or more. I use a 300WM most often when deer hunting in B.C. Not because I need it for deer, but sometimes I'm hunting moose, elk, or bear at the same time and also often have the potential for Grizzly encounters. The 22CM or other small cartridges are not going to cut it then, for me. 😅 Nice to shoot small cartridges when you can though.
Great list. I have hunted with 30-30s, 5.56, and 308 (ar10) in WI, and both Winchesters were flawless. Since moving to AZ, the ballistics and lighter recoil of the 6.5s, 7mm-08, and the 270 have me wanting to try them, too. I reload, so I think they're all great additions. They're like chips... you can't have just one...😂
Best woods 150 yard rifle is the 35 Remington.
Fun fact, Iowa had all the normal straight wall regulations, but for some reason removed the "straight wall" from all the language. So you have to have a minimum energy and a minimum bore size.
Result, can I deer hunt with a .243 win, 6.5 creedmor, or .308 win? Nope. But I CAN take a .375 cheytac, or .416 barret.
I just want to take my daughter out to hunt with her super accurate 6 arc.
Great review Jim! I missed the live feed but I would have said the 30'06 because I love my Model 70 Winchester, Mannlicher stocked! It's taken a lot of deer and hogs over the years. That said, I love the .270 Winchester too, and of course for Elk I'd prefer the Weatherby 300 mag. If I were a couple decades younger, I'd certainly buy a nice quality 7 mm 08!
Love my 270wsm. Deer, elk, hogs, it hasn’t failed me yet.
Too old? What the hell does that have to do with anything? A dead deer is a dead deer. The whole debate is dumb. Anything from 243 to 300 win mag dosent make a damn bit of difference to the average deer hunter.
I've yet to go hunting, but I'm eager to try out the bolt action 30-30 my fiance recently got a couple of weeks ago.
At the range though it's a beautiful work of art, kicks slightly more than my 300 B.O. and is absolutely accurate with the iron sights ❤️
What were the constraints on this?
Mule, white tail, black tail? I would use different calibers do to the size
Also location? Out West, NV where I hunt, we need longer shots than the eastern guys
I've been hunting since 1982.. and have used several different cartridges for deer hunting.
1) 303 British
2) 30-06 Springfield
3) 7mm-08 Remington
4) 350 Remington Mag
5) 350 Legend
6) 358 Winchester
The deer never knew the difference between them.. and I believe that it's truly a choice. If I picked my favorite whitetail deer cartridge.. it would be the 7mm-08 Remington.
Packaged in a short lightweight handy rifle topped off with a low power variable scope ❤
I have only hunted in Pennsylvania .. public land! Mountains and heavily wooded habitat.. where most shots are inside 75 yards!
That's the reason I picked up the 350 Legend in 2019.. I use both Winchester and Federal 180 grain loads! Both will completely pass through any whitetail deer in the woods.. leaving an amazing blood trail ❤
Love the content on this channel. Im a 308 guy all day specially in 1:8 twist. 110gr vmax, 130gr ttsx, 150gr sst, 168 eld-m, 178 eld-x & 194gr lehigh max expansion subsonic
270 with 130 g cant beat it
Missed your survey, but I actually agree with your responders about the 243. Yes, I've shot one, and I've reloaded for it. Does it work? Definitely. But I've also got to say it "doesn't do anything for me" in the overall scheme of things.
For #1 & #2, the 30-06 vs. the 358 Winchester. They alternate depending on when you ask. #3 is the 308. #4 is the 6.5 CM. #5 the 38-55. #6 is the 44 mag. #7 is the 30-30. #8 is the 25x45 Sharps. #9 is the 7.62x39, and #10 is the 270.
The reason for the 7.62x39 is because it is essentially another 30-30, and pretty much everyone who uses a 30-30 already knows what can be done with it. The reason the 270 is last is because it has so much more muzzle blast. I don't care for that, but the cartridge works.
One consideration for me is how far I have to track after making the shot. As a thumb rule, the less tracking I have to do, the higher I'm going to rank a cartridge.
300 WSM, 243, 28 Nosler. but I have cleanly killed black tails with 556 even.... so it's all preference and state laws, and distance to what you guys choose. Great show, as always. Thank you.
@backfire why are the WSM calibers fading fast into the sunset? I have a .270wsm and I think its the ideal caliber for deer or really anything in the US.....except moose maybe. but these are such good cartridges and are just forgotten
I agree. The WSM series of cartridges does anything that the newer reinvented wheels cartridges can do. I can't understand why at least Winchester isn't pushing them. They aren't even making ammo for some anymore. And they're not very old. 😢
This is no joke for me. I life by my ability to hunt sucessfully. I cant have a bunch of rifles because I live in a small cabin. My go to in my advanced age is 308.
270 best ever!
So glad .270 won. It really is the best all around cartridge for everything until you get into the big animals.
I have used the same 270 for all my deer elk bear. Cougars coyotes wolves and anything else. North Idaho born and raised. Never had anything get away. When the 270 goes off something is going to die. Everytime
And I'm over here still rocking the 30-06 with modern bullets.
I’ve been hunting with a marlin lever gun in 44mag for 25 years. I’ve never seen a deer take more than 10 steps before going down. My hunting spot does not require a long range rifle.
You should do this in straight wall cartridges for us folks that can’t shoot anything but
That was awesome to hear you talk of the .243 !!!!!! I have said for many years I think it is the best for deer. That being said. I built a 24 Nosler on a AR-15 frame for deer and it is crazy good !!! I only live 25 miles from you if you ever want to see it :)
30-06 with a 25 inch match barrel, my load is measured at 3015 fps 165 grain Speer spitzer, bc of 5.2. It is perfect for deer, and elk. 100 yards 2832 fps, energy is 2937. at 400 yrds energy is 1978, and drop is about 24 in. That works for my hunting.
I understand reloaders, but I usually pick cartridges that you can find anywhere. 3006, 308, 3030, 270, 300wm, 6.5 creed now. Just in case/backup. Pickup a factory box off the shelf of a hardware store in an emergency.
I was torn between .270 and 6.5 PRC with my newest deer rifle, and went with the PRC. The only thing I'll say about the newer cartridges vs the old is the saami specs are based on modern machining technology, meaning tighter chamber tolerances, increased twist rates, etc. Not saying you can't achieve those on a new rifle in old cartridges, but it's not a given out of the box and might take hand loading to get the same results as a factory load in a newer cartridge.
Col. Townsend Whelen said, "The .30-'06 is never a mistake."
40 degree shoulder, not 45 on a .280 AI.
My coworker sold his rifles and uses a muzzleloader exclusively, we have an early and late muzzleloading season in my part of the country.
Very cool video. My 22 caliber is 22-250. My 25 cal is 25-06 and is actually a re-purposed 30-06 so I didn't need a new bolt. 26 cal for me is 6.5 creed; mostly for great ammo prices. 30 cal for me is 308, and 33 cal is 338WM. Some of my rifles I've had since the 1980s. I like these more modern cartridges but already own all the reloading equipment for my listed cartridges. Strangely I have nothing in 28 cal but that's not on purpose. That's just how life panned out for me.