This Is Drum Corps (VHS Tape)
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- We found this old DCI tape cassette in our archives and thought it was pretty neat!
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"A drum and bugle corps, also known as a drum corps, is a musical marching unit (similar to a marching band) consisting of brass instruments, percussion instruments, and color guard. Typically operating as independent non-profit organizations, drum corps perform in competitions, parades, festivals, and other civic functions. Participants of all ages are represented within the drum and bugle corps activity, but the majority are between the ages of 13 and 22.
Competitive corps participate in summer touring circuits, such as Drum Corps International (DCI) and Drum Corps Associates (DCA). Corps prepare a new show each year, approximately 8-12 minutes in length, and refine it throughout the summer tour. Shows are performed on football fields and are judged in various musical and visual categories, or "captions". Musical repertoires vary widely among corps and include symphonic, jazz, big band, contemporary, rock, wind band, vocal, Broadway, and Latin music, among other genres. Competitive junior corps usually spend between 10 and 15 weeks on tour over the summer, practicing and performing full-time. All-Age and Alumni corps have less demanding schedules, practicing and performing mostly on weekends." - Wikipedia
3:33
Leave it to the Velvet Knights to dick around with the judges in an easter bunny costume. I wish they were still around in all their glory.
We use B flat instruments now, amplification is legal, but don't forget, everyone still strives for excellence like they always have...
That said, NO WOODWINDS HOPKINS!!
Its amazing how much drum corp has changed since then
Same
Not for better
I began my teen years at 13 in drum crop. They where the best yrs a teenager could have had ! I learned what team work was and what it meant to be a friend. I also learn about hard work and the benefits. I learned more in Drum Corp then have I would have Hanging in the streets. So Lance ! Wake up and see how many kids where saved from the streets. Drum Crop also helped me in my 22yr military career because I had all ready tasted the sting of Marching and leadership. So I think you need pull your head out of , well I don,t think I have to tell you. On Long Island Drum Crop saved a many kids! me for one!
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You took the words out of my mouth. AMEN! Of course things change over time, some things not for the better. At the end of the day, how many youth is this activity saving by giving these kids a purpose and a positive outlet? Many, I’m sure. That alone, is an admirable achievement on its own.
I meet my now husband the year of 88. We both marched the Cavaliers, he tuba me guard. 89 he didn't show back up i was, devastated then in 90 he walked threw the doors, haven't let him out of my site seance. LOL. We celebrate our Anniversary each year at finals week....
Steve Rondinaro the narrator, was director of our corp for a time. One day after practice he gave us a motivational story about Commitment. He started the story by saying "One day my boss called me into his office and said...". Without thinking I blurted out "Your Fired!". DEAD silence for a split sec and I thought "WHY THE HELL DID I SAY THAT?!?!" Suddenly everyone started laughing hysterically. Steve walked over to me, patted me on my head and spared my life. Thank you, Mr. Rodinaro.
This really captures the essence of drum & bugle corps. Thanks! I marched for about 10 years. Awesome experience.
You started marching at 11?
@@Tortuga_312 back in the old school days kids would start in drum and bugle Corps is as young as six perhaps 5 or 6, we call them diaper Corps. They do not compete in major competition, they were formed so they could be training properly, and eventually move up to the competing Corps some drum Corps, had three separate organizations, the diaper corpse, the parade corpse, the parade and competing corpse. Did not have to have any musical background whatsoever. Today is Groundhog Day 2022.
THIS WAS GREAT!!!! Brought back enormously good memories of, IMO, some of DCI's best years.
Not trying to be mean.... but drum corps is a activity that is amazing no matter how much it has changed or how much it has becomes corrupt. There are more things that are good about it then there are bad. So, if you please refrain from bad comments as the saying goes "if you dont have anything nice to say don't say it." Times change and some things must change with those times. Your opinions are yours and they are all different due to the times that you marched or the experiences you have had. Its better for you to let younger people that wish to have their own experiences with this activity formulate their own opinions and not let those opinions be poisoned by you bad comments. Again not trying to be mean. Its just the bad comment need to stop. Thanks.
fabsam11 I disagree. What better forum is there than this for expressing one's opinions, positive or negative, about the current state of drum corps?
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!
I remember when Will Craig sat us down and showed this to us. I marched Magic 93-98. I played lead baritone.
Will Craig was a friend of mine I met him, when I went to see magics rehearsal along with John Dowling, and dick filkins. Became friends with Will. Will had a bunch of drum and bugle Corp albums, he didn't have a record player, I went through the album's looking at him and acted like they were gold, I even pointed out a photograph up myself on one or two of the albums in the back. He asked me if I'd like to have them naturally I said yes and he gave them to me. I even try to help magic raise money for their organization. Great memories thank you for the post today is February 2nd 2022, happy Groundhog Day. Former member of the Long Island sunrises.
If you have never gone GO it is a beautiful experience
I am proud to say that between 1978-1981 I marched with The Malden Diplomats drum&bugle corp. The instructors and the other members of the corps were like a family. We had fun competing in the various shows and making the audience happy meant a lot. Maybe God bless everyone that made this happen for us and All the other corps.
Too many dinosaurs in the comments section saying "DCI is dead I marched with the Velvet Star Troopers in 1890 and DCI is nothing like it was back in the good ol' days"
ya so what, dci is very alive, i think it still sanctions contests doesnt it? as long as people go watch it should continue too. Other than it happening on a football field, it bares little resemblance to the activity of years past , some like it some dont. Strangely the kids play far more demanding parts, and move around more than ever, but personally i cant stand it, yet i have respect for the playing
1890? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
True. DCI is not dead as long as long as there are high school and college bands as feeders. but I believe that it is on life support. Attendance is not what it was when the 'backside' of the field was sold out. Much has changed since you marched in 1890.
Dinosaurs 😭🤚
It's a sporting event....with instruments,
no don't give dci any bad ideas they already killed the activity no need to try and bury it with rifles and bows and fishing equipment and football o wait chops sr tried that before
Best video about drum corps
This never gets old!!
This is from 1993, although some audio and footage is from even earlier years.
Yeah...the retreat sequence in the first feature is from 84...the only year I marched (yeah...thanks for reminding me of losing to Garfield by 1/10th)...so I'm in there SOMEwhere!
Sam, I remember your 1984 stories from the old BD forums.
Bryan Welter
You mean my bitching and moaning about it!
*my precious...myyyyy preeecciiooussssss....nasty-bad Cadetssessssss....*
sam signorelli next time you see those ass backwards people tell them they would never make the army marching on there right foot
the bad credits Hopkins sucks
doesn't matter what year its from its still says drum corps does not consist of band equipment
This is the way our glorious activity used to be... before it eliminated the unique 3 valve G bugles to ironically make "it more affordable" and actually did the reverse, before they purged iconic corps of their unique visual and audio identities, before they finally eliminated all traditional aspects/traditions of real drum & bugle corps that bound the corps together in a common purpose (other than traveling, paying large dues tabs & winning), before it became an exclusive road show that eliminated all of the local and regional show sponsors or organizations as a DCI power grab to eliminate competition or to eliminate anyone or anything that might have had any kind of influence or displayed even a minute level of control over the units, before the musical performances became subservient to questionable visual presentations, where the content is unappealing to the general audience, and often dictated by an aloof judging cabal or the designers of costumes and merchandise, who then adjudicate and rank the units based on some oblivious, unobjective standards on sheets written by those very same judges and designers... before they became an activity that has to travel from 300-500 miles a day/night to find a competition because DCI had eliminated the local show sponsors and the smaller corps that benefitted and filled out the sponsor's shows. This is all before DCI became WGI on steroids (judged by far too many of the same judges who dictate the trends and future of both organizations), and became only available highly skilled, financially well off, elitist young adults. DCI has priced the rest of the competitors and those kids that benefitted from the activity out of existence. FAR TOO MANY of the corps in this video no longer exist and DCI has taken over by profiteers, corporate sponsors, merchandisers, overpaid designers, instructors and a judging system rampant with conflict of interests too numerous to mention. This was an amazing activity for kids from 13-21 years of age to learn discipline, teamwork, community service, cooperation, how to work harder than you ever thought possible to improve your individual and corps performance skills, to in many cases in the past, go from no skills to one of the leaders of the organization over time, and to learn patriotism, and many lessons in life that are no longer stressed, available or allowed in the activity. I could go on for hours, but why bother? I'll just get flamed on here by people who will defend the activity as it is now, but are too young to have experienced anything different than what they see now or what they have been indoctrinated into. The kids are still wonderful and perform brilliantly. It's sad that they'll never be able to see or experience the activity at or in it's purest and intended form.
Today you need a PhD in psychology to decipher the over abundance of symbolism and unrecognizable music. 10 years or more ago you could actually enjoy the shows.
Funny how this is NOT drumcorps anymore. The similarities between drumcorps and marching bands have kept increasing and increasing, and now it's just not nearly as special as it used to be. If you weren't around to experience drumcorps (live) before the changes to B-flat horns, it's hard to understand why "old fogeys" like myself complain about it. If you were there and heard that sound, that pure, clean, louder than anything sound before the switch, you get it.
I agree with you 100%, we no longer have real drum and bugle Corps, the only thing today is a marching band. Big big difference.
Well, this was Drum Corps. May the bugles Rest In Peace.........
Nothing stays the same, but not everything changes for the better. I would argue that the most positive change is that the talent level has gotten a lot higher, especially in percussion (I think we may have youtube to thank for that). While I'm not wild about the extinction of bugles (this was probably inevitable), I am truly offended by the use of amplified electronics. Aside from often sounding cheesy and inorganic, I liken it to athletes using PED's. If I want to hear artificial amplification I'll go to a rock concert, I come to a drum corps show to hear natural horns and percussion.
But what saddens me most is how much participation has dropped off. DCI is no longer for the masses, but for the talented few. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
Lance Raiford I agree with mostly everything you said except for the "talented few" part. I think it's great that the bar has been raised. If you want to be a part of it you have to put the time in. Because, others are definitely putting the time in. Nothing wrong with a good merit system. Nothing wrong with competition.
I have chills, this was awesome.
“As the corps travels about, the members live in the land of luxury-sleeping on gymnasium floors and practicing 8 to 10 hours a day.”
fucking kek
In 93 there were 300 Corps and 70 made their way to prelims. Boy that has sure lowered in the past twenty years.
muito Show !!
so true! I miss my high school band so much :(
Awwww... I see Keely!
I see me, too. (more than once.) SCV '93 was splattered throughout this video. Love it. :)
TOE LIFTS!!!! Wow! I haven't seen that in YEARS!
Madison with long sleeves.
Bobby Knight was the coach at the college basket ball team in my hometown. Neat.
1964 - 1969 I was there playing sop with st lucys, blessed sac, and a falcon cadet corp. All from New Jersey. Strange but it got a lot of kids out of the streets and taught us music and discipline. G bugal and what a sound. So sad that DCI ran out of buisness the other organizations. After vietnam when i returned all was fine till 1972. Then all went to hell. No class and the $$ took over. Well working hard now to teach old school D&B. Maybe with enough money we can go back to familly values and getting poor kids the streets again playing music the way it was intended.
The two terms are synonymous.
What drum & bugle corps is no more! Real!!!
Babs Courtney --That's a good question...where did those great drum corps go?
Sorry babs I replied on your post but the question still remains where are all the drum corps? It's was a great way to entertain the young teens and adults.
6:44 is that seriously the Jurassic park music
Jurassic Park at the end. i learned how to play that in 8th grade!
I do "get it." The last Corps I marched in was St. Rita's Brassmen (snare),1973. However, I was also on the Cadets perc. staff 1982, '83 and '84, among many other Corps that I'm sure you'd know. I also get the new stuff. I don't like a lot of it, but I'd rather have the activity continue rather than die. Know what I mean?
good video.......
thank for your info,,,
This is from 1990 my first corp year. This was made along with another video from the Magic of Orlando corps to be a promo for local youth and Local news bit. Robert Smith was Directer then and had hands in the video. That is why you see some Magic vid clips in this. We were brand new then.
Can't be '90 if it has '93 Star of Indiana in it.
I am speaking of the original. They can edit things over the years. It is not that difficult. I know without question that I saw this my first year in 1990. My above statements are true and correct as written. The power of editing is amazing. You can add and take out as you wish. I have this on a vhs from Magic. We were all shown this at a group meeting. It had us (1990 Magic in it). If clips of later years are in it, then it clearly was edited at least once. That is logical. Not a big deal.
Is Magic of Orlando still around?
in a real sense, it is now Drum & BRASS Corps.
This is drum corps? Yeah, I guess it is. What it is NOT is drum and BUGLE!
almailman This video was made in 1993, before they made the switch to Bb. It is drum and bugle corps. The instruments they're using are 3 valved bugles. It stopped being drum and bugle in the early 2000s.
@@luckyhunt7293 I realize that this was pre-Bb, but 'thanks.'
The legendary "Wall of Sound. This Kingsmen remembers it. FONDLY! Back when drum corps still had bugles, the guard actually had colors to guard, and percussion didn't need training wheels and a parking space.
Florida Wave in the mid 80's. Good times.
There's a corps out of Burlington County NJ. They practice at the Burlington Center Mall. I've seen them a few times in rehearsal.
Its probably a DCA.
Jersey Surf?
Music is not a sport, it's what we perform. The performance of Drum Corps is in fact, by most dictionary-definitions, a sport; "an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature.". The agility and endurance of marching are very demanding, so I would certainly consider it a sport. The music just makes it more difficult. Besides, I think that whatever's changed has been for the better; much better.
Shuffler Dood - I realized that this was pre-Bb
I believe that would be the Florida Wave!
Hi I was in the worst Drum Corp in the DCI division. We were from Bridgeport CT. I remember our bus broke down on the highway with our uniforms in the 1980's before we were to perform in Allentown, PA. I just cannot for the llfe of me remember the name of our corps. I am now in my 50's and was in the color guard at the time. We performed without our garb that day and failed regardless...our moral was low. I just cannot remember the name of our corps. ugh!!
sounds like the alls hammer cadets
As an Alumni of Drum Corps, the sport of Drum and Bugle Corps is art but it is more of a sport. Besides, if DCI says its a sport then its a sport....who are you to go against DCI......you all need to learn form Drum Corps.....this is in no shape or form anything like marching band....it is Drum and Bugle Corps....
Mallets USED to march!
Roxanne Morrow That moment when they used timpimi to march as well lol
ya that moment hue hue
Yeah but they played badly and are barely heard most the time
nice
why Jurassic park?
jack davis Because. :-)
The Movie themes at the end. Kek.
it`s band anymore. sad how it changed instrumentaly wise, some of you say it`s progress? i say BS to that. DCI has run the activity to the ground.
lol Jurassic Park at the end.
No, this is Patrick.
dope!
sadly Eleni Maris you do not understand WHY older corps members say what they say about todays corps. FIRST -todays drum corps is awesome as a former board President of what was a Div II drum corps and continued participation in the activity for 48 years I can tell you you are way off base being" disgusted" FIRST had WE not gone where we had YOU might not have an activity to "Appreciate".
THIS is what I appreciated about corps.
1.)ANYONE could come,learn how to play and march ,costs were low.NOW corps audition in 4 parts of the country and there are only 48 DCI corps left. In 1974 there were 48 in New York State. DCI makes big noise about the quality of experience and so NEW corps have to have $100k in the bank before DCI will even let them compete in local shows.
2.) Truth is drum corps was once an activity that was for the common young musician .Many cities had corps. MANY cities had cross town rivalries. ITS NOT ABOUT YOU and your education and developement as a person anymore.Sure that is part of it,but make no mistake if you weren't there,one of the other 30 people who auditioned for your spot WOULD BE , there isn't the personal commitment to YOU by the organization.Don't believe me ? Tell your corps you cant pay the $2k + they require for tour fees ans see if they keep you around. DRUM CORPS molded ,sculpted thousands more in ONE YEAR 30 years ago,40 years ago than they do today. SURE the average corps is bigger BUT even if all 48 DCI member corps were at 150 members they wouldn't be anywhere NEAR the number of young men and women once cared for,cared about, taugh the importance of music,individual responsibility,and team work or how to grow up and be responsible OR appreciate and venerate the people who made the activity what it is BEFORE snotty nosed youth with no understanding of what the activity COULD be and once WAS...BEFORE DCI turned it into the sport of the arts for those rich enough to afford it.
And maybe you don't understand that what some of these old farts say is intentionally hurtful and very damaging. I marched in the '60's and '70's so I have some history in the activity. There is nothing wrong with highlighting the good parts of what drum corps was back then. But try to do that without denigrating the high level corps of today. They are providing the kind of entertainment we could only dream about back then.
LOOK the young today are being SOLD this activity is drum and bugle corps .IT IS AN AWESOME ACTIVITY but..it left Drum and Bugle corps a long time ago. When it stopped being a youth activity for anyone who wanted to put in the effort and the time ,and became an activity that ONLY the kid that could come up with $1800.00 could march,it LOST a very important aspect of what D+B Corps WAS.That being set aside ,I can't answer for ALL the hutfu;l comments SOME of the old people are spewing,I can ONLY give you MY HONEST EVALUATION of what I have seen ,having sat in DCI winter meetings ,and having marched 12 yrs and worked with corps and also marching band for 49 of my 58 yrs. It is RARE nowadays to find someone who marches MORE than a few yrs..WHY 1. burnout ,10hrs a day 3 months a yr plus the off season is eating them alive. 2 Not many kids can afford more than a couple yrs.3 not many kids get involved YOUNG enough to spend more than a couple yrs.
ANOTHER sad aspect is that ,the EXPERIENCE one has in WHATEVER D+B corps he marches in IS VALID in the building of A reliable well formed young person. ONE does NOT have to march in a DCI finalist to learn a solid work ethic,and teamwork and the value of EVERY man and women,and how to get along with others in stressful situations.BUT I've sat in DCI mtgs where the PUSH was to make it more difficult for the little community group to flourish and to illigitimize the experience kids got in the small corps experience. Don't get me wrong the MOVES were framed in NEWSPEAK and made to sound great but every small corps director sitting in the room could smell the bullshit being dumped on their shoes,and this goes back 20yrs.
.NOW ADD to this the fact that drum and bugle corps STOPPED BEING D+B corps when they added amplification and synthesizers and looped files and voices .The idea that a pre recorded looped file is legitimate in a traditionally acoustic activity ,because a performer has to "push the button" to "play it" is ABSOLUTE LUNACY.
I stand on my complaints THE KIDS are doing awesome things THE ACTIVITY LEADERSHIP is NUTS. What they have done is ..taken a limited performance medium and changed it into something else. DRUM and BUGLE corps as art is like pen and ink drawings,or pastel drawings. EACH MEDIUM is what it is UNTIL you add acrylic paint to your pastel or pastel chalks to your pen and ink. THEN it is something ELSE. Can you imagine painting Michaelangelos DAVID because properly painted it will look MORE REAL. YOU wouldn't do that would you?
AND FINALLY I don't believe that EVERY SINGLE THING that COULD'VE been done WITHOUT the additions of electronics + t-bones and potentially Sax's HAD been done.I think younger designers are no longer up to the challenge of CREATING NEW and DIFFERENT sounds and textures etc. within the framework of the more"minimalist" drum and bugle corps of the 60's,70's and 80's yes I'm even allowing the addition of ALL the pit and three valves because at least it was STILL ACOUSTIC
Mark Tillotson no it finally went deceased when dci decided to let the young become the leader with crappy band equipment that's including solo ensamble too if you cant learn how to play the instruments in drum corps go back to the boas
Doug Roberts o please I was doing all of what youre talking about back then but I learned the drum corps way and still don't agree dci is doing the right thing
play band at band boas and colege
learn to play drum and bugle instruments in the drum and bugle corps
otherwise time to stop falseifying the activity by calling it a marching activity instead of drum and bugle corps
well if you call bringing a bunch of crappy out of tune band equipment onto the field great then you suck too and are just as dumb as the rest
drum corps is officially dead as far as jr corps goes and within 5 years the sr corps and alumni corps will have to make a special appearance so the can play taps while lowering dcis casket into the ground
Like watching a tutorial sequence vid
no this is patrick
awesome*
Cadets had a christmas show... Uhh lets hope george hopkins doesnt pick something weird too loll
Abel Miranda George hopkins will be the director.of the sing sing prison choir soon.
Its VK. Why worry about it
CRAZY, The background music is Jurassic Park but they're showing corps that were around well before Jurassic Park came out. Santa Clara a la 88? 89?
When did the Velvet Knights become the Velvet Kittens? at 5:04 .... think I will sell my business and fake my age to march again!!!
why jurrasic park????
they fail to mention the thousands of dollars it can be to be in a corp lol but really informative video thanks :) THE SONG AT THE END FOR CREDITS AHHH WHATRE THOOOOSE WHATTREE THOOOOOSEEE xD
lol ridic harness tan at 4:46
What is a supercoach? XD
drum corps is also
3:33 what corps and show/year is this?
+The Funky Chicken It's definitely the Velvet Knights. I believe it was from 1993.
thank you!
if this is the case then all drum corps should be able to compete against the bands at the boa's
Ron Sokolowski Pretty sure that's not the case at all. Have you ever marched DCI? Cause I'm not trying to knock BOA or anything, but they don't even compare.
Im going on my 30thyear now being 97 age out year of dci and dca since but as long as there allowing band equipment in dci then drum corps should be able to do band shows meaning the boas and why would you ask me if I ever marched dci as if I don't know what I'm talking about..further more they now are infringing the words drum and bugle corps and should not be able to legally call it that anymore as long as band equipment like trombones are aloud in dci and dci even should be changed to bci or bmi band competition international or band marching institution
Not an accurate video of the audio describing what drum corps is left out a lot of info
Up to 83 keyboards and tymps marched ...there are woodwinds in drum corps its called the pit cuz that's what the marimbas play and vibraphones bells play brass like sax and trombone and flute parts tymp covers bass ..viola and violin parts without these all those band instruments would be marching on the field so if your gonna relay a description video don't forget to include all the info
They still have military drill. So who is annoying? If I express my opinion, it doesn't allow for someone to tell me I'm wrong. If you disagree, fine, but leave your stupid comments to yourself.
Definitely pit. Coming from somebody in a M.B.
When I marched - 1960s' - there were thousands of D & B Corps. Virtually anyone could join - where they would learn to play a one-valve G bugle (much more difficult than a trumpet or Bb 'bugle', by the way) and march in precision maneuvers and formations. Now, D & B Corps are nothing more than dancing (note my omission of the word 'marching') bands with electronic amplification. DCI has presided over a massive decline in the numbers of Drum Corps. If you consider the notion that D&B Corps should provide a life-changing experience for large numbers of kids, then DCI has been an abject failure.
When I marched (for 7 years), it was not just an 'activity', it was a way of life.
I'm not speaking against the kids - I know what it's like to be out there. I'm speaking against the DCI leadership - the people who've destroyed Drum and Bugle Corps.
I marched in the 60s too - in a band. When you played your one-valve G bugle, you were so far out of tune that it hurt in the roots of my teeth. Listen to any 60s drum corps on RUclips - 9 out of 10 soloists crack at least one note. The ensemble playing was atrocious - when you hear three-four lead sopranos, no two can seem to play together perfectly. That raw sound that 60s-era guys talk about so much now was bad intonation causing an edgy dissonance. And most of your bugle instructors learned all they knew from other drum corps, so they copied the old, amateurish styles of the past. It wasn't until the late 70s that bugle sections started playing challenging arrangements and sounding good doing it. And guess what - they did so by recruiting from high school and college bands.
I don't like the current drum corps either, but don't tell me about the good old days.
what kind of band
Well said, Sleuth!
@@JonFrumTheFirst ...I also marched in both bands and drum & bugle corps in the 60s and 70s. I also remember the out of tune sound out of those that were still using 1 valve horns (very few toward the end of the 60s), which was totally eliminated in the late 60s, 70s, and 80s as the other 2 valves had been added. Yes, the sound was raw, but so was the equipment early on. We had many members who were in both bands and drum corps, so that sound wasn't unique to only the drum corps activity. I also remember some very bad and out of tune playing in bands also with their 3 and 4 valve horns. It always was about the player and their stage of development. But you choose to overlook the top or elite groups in the drum corps activity that didn't display much of what you described. In the late 60s and then the 70s bands were simply blown away by the drum corps activity who both outperformed and out-entertained the bands. I became a drum corps instructor and then band director later in my life. Your example surely doesn't hold water with ANY of the units displayed in this video. Show me one band that was at their level... The corps were brought in to run clinics and exhibitions for college bands in the 70s so the college bands could learn from them. What a turn around, eh?
@@jdavid1027 Most any 1960s video of drum corps that has soloists playing will give you your bad intonation. In fact, some are so bad that it's hard to tell what notes were supposed to be played. Yeah, of course bands full of kids had bad intonation, but the sound of drum corps could be defined as Loud + Out of Tune. Go to any Facebook drum corps group and you'll see over and over boasting about how loud they were. Not how good their ensemble playing was - it's all balls-to-the-wall loud that they remember fondly. And if you taught, you know that the louder they got, the worse the intonation was. And by the 1970s? Quality was much better, in part at least because ... they were recruiting band kids who could play. Of course, corps that practiced full time and kept kids for years could do things school bands couldn't. But a lot of the non-straight-line marching that became so big in the 1970s came from .... bands.
Wtf why the jurassic park theme at the end?
I'm probably going to catch some flak for this, but Drum Corps stopped being drum corps in like 1970. Back then, you didn't need a pit, you didn't have Bb horns, and you had absolutely no trombones. The title of this video is...Misleading...It isn't drum corps anymore. I play in an Alumni corps from Central FL, even though I've never played in any other Corps, but I play with people from Phantom Regiment, Garfield, NY Skyliners, and the Bridgemen, The Troopers, and Madison, to name a few. Now, some of those are DCA corps which basically means its the same thing but a quarter of the cost. Let it be known that I'm only 18 and just graduated high school but I play in the lead Sop. line and play with several Drum and Bugle Corps hall of famers. Don't get me wrong, if these kids are anything it's talented beyond belief. But their talents are being wasted on unnecessary things like visual/general effect. In conclusion, if you want to see some real drum corps, search for a corps that played before 1970.
Drum Corps is an art, and like all art it evolves over time. Just because they don't use all the same traditions that were used 40 years ago doesn't mean anything. What the hell is wrong with Bb horns? And what the hell is wrong with trombones? Drum Corps isn't about that crap. It's about the music, and it's about the marching. I don't care if they decide to allow full orchestras to march on the field in 20 years or something, because as long as those two aspects are still good, than nothing else should matter.
Then how come I can barely recognize the music during a performance?
Robert Decker What do you mean recognize the music? Having familiar music doesn't matter either. Wether it's a Tchaikovsky show or something completely original, it's the quality of the music itself that matters.
well unfortunately you forget there wasn't a pit until 83 up front but every year before 83 they were right along the side of you in the field marching glock and tympani chimes vibraphone xylophone and marimba as well as all the rhythm sections and accessory pit toys that drummers mounted on there drum
but its very sad to here you say we don't need the pit because obviously you told that to the head of dci one to many times cuz I don't know if your smart enough to realize this but that comment is the reason y dci now allowed crap on the field
and drum corps is officially dead they might as well not have the pit anymore cuz what the pit covered as all those dumb instruments from marching band that is now legalized for dci drum corps flute carinet ect. a marimba was a woodwind part a vibraphone is a brass instrument and bass viola is the timpani part don't know how to explain guitar but dci might as well let all the musicians and artist in this world join too its just a matter of time before they merge dci with the boas and eventually kill the whole activity and the kill dca as well
but that's alright I guess dci thinks just like you
I marched in 1980 and instructed in 1981 and 82 but I still like what's going on today. Things have to change or they will stagnate. We all know that, even though we might not want to admit it. The physical demand alone is mind blowing with today's groups.
2:16 really?
Keep in mind that this video was most likely made back in the 90's, way before this new-fangled rule change in 2014.
***** doesn't matter they need to revisit and listen what drum corps should still be not killing it and further more legally you cant called a drum and bugle corps anymore you have to change the name or that's false advertising and enfringement
marching bandoism corps
Dude, calm down. Change is how an activity grows and matures and stays relevant and fresh. If DCI had stayed the same, it would have stagnated and wouldn't be a relevant activity anymore.
Jurassic Park..
They are not Drum and Bugle Corps any more. They are matching band brass sections. When they took at way the G bugles and started using trumpets, trombone, and mellophones. They become the brass section of a marching band. The BUGLES are what made them distinctive. I tell can tell the difference in two. I taught high school and middle school bands for 25 years. Should change the name to Drum and Brass Ensemble. These are not Drum corps!!
They ditched the bugles cause no one gives a damn about bugles anyone
12.26
haha
Not pit, front ensemble...
God stop it rond@@@@@
DCI is harder than a sport. It is not a sport. It is an art form. A competitive art form. Calling it a sport is degrading to what it truly is.
Wtf 5:04 ??
jurassic park? really? hah
10,000 gallons of gas and 80 quarts of oil ? 15,00 miles, 3 buses, 2 equipment trucks, a souvenir truck and 2 motor homes ? Do away with DCI and we can solve the energy crises and cure global warming ! I remember 'passing the hat' to get our school bus enough gas to get us back to our post and a few bucks for our 'equipment manager' (a dad with a station wagon).
Drum corps how it should be, how it was intended.
They are NO LONGER Drum & Bugle Corps . They are Semi Pro College Marching Bands ... Look at the side of the top 15 Marching bands Trucks . They NO LONGER SAY Drum & Bugle Corps on them . A Kid can't just walk in off of the street and join Like it Should be .
That's dca you're thinking of.
that's 100% inaccurate (as of the 2016 DCI season). Where did you get this information from?
BigHeartedMan65 wot????
WOT ??? MEANS ????
@@BigHeartedMan65 man you are a dinosaur
or better yet just combine everything into a all age winner takes all doesn't matter your numbers size of corps or band you compete against all at every event with no rules cuz we all know some judges are byist anyways just everyone too scared to do anything about it so we play the political game of greedy owners like dci who killed dcm and is about to kill drum corps if they haven't already but should fall apart within the next 5 years then they'll probally kill dca by trying to merge crappy sounding band instruments
but lets just have one competition judged all on the same sheets like no world class and open class and senior division and high school and college anymore everyone is the same as the next don't get punished for not having points taken off just because of the size or that your not allowed to make finals cuz someone else has 64 more drums then you it should be base off how well you play your show how well you perform it and how well you march it and how much your choice of songs entertain the crowd nothing else
4 brackets each 25 points broken down into 3 sections 10 10 5 and there shouldn't be a time limit on and off the field and if you feel like doing the full version of each song you should be allowed and 2 of your corps songs while leaving the field and bring back retreat that's what really draws crowds and keeps tradition intact otherwise even as a performer its no fun anymore
mAIN championship shows should be july august September 1st weekends of each month july boa's august dci and September dca and wether your from bands junior corps or sr corps you can win any 1st place trophy for all 3 competitions
everyone would all be consider open class and all age would apply except high school and college would still be 18 and 30
Ron Sokolowski shut up old man
I'm sorry but drum Corp was always based on the military style !!
This looks like ballet and flittering butterflies and people wearing masks that look like rabbits I can't believe what I'm seeing!!!!!! The drum lines and the horns look and sound good but when they start dancing around the field like ballet and opera it makes me sick !!!! This is not drum and bugle Corp! They should find another name for it
preach, its simple just call it something else, i think everyone would be happy. Field art sounds right. keeps all these tremendously creative leaders feeling respected for being so imaginative
Military? BAH!! That makes me laugh 😂
I think you've lost your way a bit to be honest. Look at the History of "Corps of Drums". you have completely disregarded everything. YES it is impressive...YES it takes great skill....NO music is not a sport, especially not military music. Take a look at our British army Drummers and you will see what i mean!!!
isn't it funny how this narrator describes what the difference is between d corps and m band hmmmm. looks like its a marching drum corps band now drum corps is dead
says drum corps does not consist of flutes trombones or clarinets saxaphones ect.
dci now surely has killed the activity
hope dca isn't next seeing how the bad credits2 is out there now
George should be sued for dca bylaws
o yeah for all or whomever it concerns stop calling the pit a front ensamble or even worse a front line
even a orchestra has it called the pit
front ensamble means every section in the first row is the ensamble
and until you hand us m16 machine guns to play with as mallets on our keyboards were not a front line easwell
o yeah seeing how I brought up another subject don't call it mallets either
mallets are what we use to play on the keyboards not what the pit is called
a pit represents what now dci has made a mochary of by putting flute clainet violins trombones suzaphones saxaphones or anyother piece of crap band equipment on the field
a marimba = flute clarinet
vibraphone = all brass
xylophone = to vocal piano and synthesizer
tympani = bass viola tuba
so we don't need that stuff dci cuz its already been in drum corps just in a different format just like a trumpet is a g or b flat
French is melo
trombone is bari
tuba is contra
hello dci must never had went to school for music education
or the executives are just growing in age
Ron Sokolowski wat
Blah blah blah "it's correct because it's old" blah blah blah
Still called a pit not a front ensemble not mallets not keyboards...but all that other shit they have now is just pure garbage
"there are no woodwinds"
"thERe ARe NO WODODWINDS"
*THERE ARE NO WOODWINDS UIN THE DRLUBM CORP*
--**NOOOO WODOODWINDS FUCK YOUR DREAMS :)))))))))))
+denk me-me's There are no Bb's either!
+denk HAHA!!!
+scoutsaj Yes there are. They changed that rule a long time ago, and now everything is Bb. (Except mellos, cause you know, mellos just gotta be weird.)
+Matt “Franican” Avenson, not in this video.
scoutsaj1 Well yeah there aren't Bb's in this video, but in modern DCI they use Bb horns.
Say what you will about "real bugles", but seeing as a bugle has no valves, DCI hasn't been using bugles since it was created. The term bugle means something else now, I suppose, just so old farts can say kids shouldn't be allowed to enjoy an activity we enjoy very much. I'm ashamed of the elder generation of drum corps on those grounds.
heavily ashamed indeed.
I'm one of those 'old farts'. I'm ashamed of some of the elder generation of drum corps too. But we're not all like that.
no they can enjoy it but if they want to play a band equipment that's what they have the boa's for otherwise theres no point in having the drum corps instruments on the field and now that you have band equipment out there you have to get rid of the pit cuz the pit was the band equipment that's why in the 70 80 90 2000's there never been band in drum corps cuz a marimba covered clarinet AND FLUTE AND ALL STRINGS the vibe covered all brass section the xylophone was your vocalist and piano and tympani covered the bass and viola
dci killing the activity not helping it
read 1 down its for you