I learned to automate first in my late twenties on a Mitsubishi Westar console in the late 1980's, then I was on large-format consoles running the Bernoulli disk SSL automation system for a long time, with a fair bit of Neve Flying Faders when I was in Neve rooms Then it was ITB ProTools and various other DAWs. I'm used to learning nothing much from these types of videos, but Joe and Gregor both deliver excellent overviews from their slightly different viewpoints. I'm closer to Joe's background, coming from the guitar band and rock engineering background , but I've done tons of EDM and synth work, being British LOL, so I can relate to them both. I really enjoyed this video and, being a lifelong student, was thrilled to be reminded again about how useful Touch automation can be in certain situations, though I am so used to just drawing it all in as i manipulate the zoom scales to see the syllable/breath/thump/scream/whisper/whole damn chorus that I'm interested in balancing in the context of the mix. I must say too that I could not be happier with Studio One (especially with the online content from Joe and Gregor) and I am thrilled to be free of the tyranny of the ubiquitous but so outdated, shareholder-driven and consistently unreliable ProTools. Post-pandemic, work is thin, but I continue on as both producer and artist, and Studio One covers both those needs perfectly. THANK YOU.
Awesome stuff joe. Thats helpful to know that just increasing the gain is going to affect the plugins on the channel. I have been doing this but im going to switch back to actual automation. You and gregor are awesome at efficiencies and making understandable content. Thanks man😎
Thanks to Gregor for the Option/Alt A and point-click way for selecting automation. Well, if it's just volume automation the advantage is small, but try Option/Alt A inside a plugin. Then you can automate whatever control is there. Much easier than stepping through a sometimes long list control names for that plugin.
Your comment is worth more than his whole video. I really like the DAW, but it seems there's no one who knows it. His videos are needlessly long and uninformative.
I am using studio one 5 pro this is the best DAW ever really , Its easy and very hyper active Daw not like logic Pro and Ableton - this is very professional - You can check out my all tracks made by this S.O5 - PLZ MAKE A VIDEO ON HOW TO MASTER THE TRACK
ONLY IN 'REAPER' THE VOLUME AUTOMATION IS PRE-FADER SO YOU CAN AUTOMATE THE VOLUME AND STILL CAN CHANGE THE OVERALL VOLUME OF THE TRACK WITH TRACK FADER. PLEASE ADD THIS FEATURE TO STUDIO ONE. THIS IS THE ONLY THING THAT BOTHERS ME IN STUDIO ONE.
Hey Joe, another great video that is bringing me over to Studio One and abandoning Logic and Reaper. One question/concern. I see that your VCA fader actually moves the channel faders. My limited understanding is that the VCA on an analog console wouldn’t have moved the channel faders (I think). In both Reaper and Logic, when moving the VCA faders, the channel faders stay put, but the volume on them definitely increases/decreases. Any idea why the difference and is there a different outcome when the faders move? I would think it wouldn’t be desirable since you may end up getting your faders into that area where you start to be less precise on your volume? Thanks!
Also... when Joe shows (at 9:20) moving the entire performance up and down, he is basically using Volume to do what others use Expression and THEN Volume to do. That is because Studio One is so flexible with its automation. With some other DAWs, you might have to automate cc#11 and cc#7 separately to accomplish the same thing. Use the method that works best for you and any collaborators you are working with. The broader you work, the more you may find you need to work to convention.
Feature request: Just make a Pro Tools / Logic Pro style volume trim automation feature. That way the fader is not locked in, and the automation is working relative to the fader position so you don't have to mess with automating the gain in MixTool every time.
Hi ...thank you ..Novice here so please excuse the dumb question .. Lets say I have a track and I want to modify the volumes to a few different levels as the song progresses. How might I accomplish that please? Thank you
One thing I miss from Reaper when I use Studio One is Reaper's Trim/Read automation mode. This lets you automate the volume fader without the automation taking over the fader. That is, you can still use the fader to trim the volume with its automation.
@@ДмитроБарабаш-в2д I've never found a way. What I do instead is put a copy of Mixtool at the end of the FX chain and automate its volume level instead of the fader.
Does anyone know this? I've put a filter plug-in on an audio track, and automate it with a midi controller. Everything works fine, but when I want to record the automation, it erases the audio. I have no clue where to search for the solution. Automation for midi-tracks works perfectly fine 🤔
Hey Joe thks for the video!! Do you know any tutorial to stream with a imac gran sur using studio one? I would be great to anyone with an presonus interface!! Live stream going up!!
Isn't there two other ways as well? - like just pressing A, or the tiny little button on the bottom of the tracks on the edit screen / those are my two fav ways to access the basic automation
I'm trying to do a volume automation on two musical tracks separate from the track's fader, how do i do this? I tried bus track and it didn't accomplish it how i wanted
One Question. Is it possible to record the volume curve (progress) from one audio take and then copy to a other? Sorry for my bad english in advance. ;-)
This question is for anyone who knows. I’ve now been a Studio One 5 Sphere user for a week. I love it. BUT, when doing auto punches I like to put them numbers in the L and R locators when making surgical punches. However, the L and R next to the loop is not there on mine. How do I find it? I’m sure I just need to click on something somewhere. Help?!?!
I notice that the volume automation level stays in place even when I click a different layer to the top. I would have thought that the volume auto would stay with the layer?
I have this problem regarding automation.. Why do channel automations hide themselves once you come back from automation view. I wish it was possible to always keep your bus/fx automation lanes always visible. Anyone can help ?
Could somebody tell me why I can´t see the beats (4/4 2/4 and so forth) in the new version of Studio One 5.3???? It´s really killing me!!! I´ve created a short cut to insert a beat change but it doesn´t show in the time line!!! HELP PLEASEEEE!!!!
Hi Brian, we certainly have that also - It is called "Mixtool" (you can find it in the "Effects" Browser). Alternatively, if you don't want to ride your faders, you could also use Studio One's VCA faders! Check out this video if you'd like to learn more about this feature: studio.ruclips.net/user/videoBEM2YpxG0Ws/edit -GBY
"...we all try ta do whatever Gregor says..." Gregor has that superior Germanic Anglo Saxon ex Royal family member look who did a Harry on it and fecked off and studied audio engineering to become a techno head..... Is that what you mean Joe? 🤣
I learned to automate first in my late twenties on a Mitsubishi Westar console in the late 1980's, then I was on large-format consoles running the Bernoulli disk SSL automation system for a long time, with a fair bit of Neve Flying Faders when I was in Neve rooms Then it was ITB ProTools and various other DAWs. I'm used to learning nothing much from these types of videos, but Joe and Gregor both deliver excellent overviews from their slightly different viewpoints. I'm closer to Joe's background, coming from the guitar band and rock engineering background , but I've done tons of EDM and synth work, being British LOL, so I can relate to them both. I really enjoyed this video and, being a lifelong student, was thrilled to be reminded again about how useful Touch automation can be in certain situations, though I am so used to just drawing it all in as i manipulate the zoom scales to see the syllable/breath/thump/scream/whisper/whole damn chorus that I'm interested in balancing in the context of the mix. I must say too that I could not be happier with Studio One (especially with the online content from Joe and Gregor) and I am thrilled to be free of the tyranny of the ubiquitous but so outdated, shareholder-driven and consistently unreliable ProTools. Post-pandemic, work is thin, but I continue on as both producer and artist, and Studio One covers both those needs perfectly. THANK YOU.
I had a cuppa to read your message. Well worth it man.
Awesome stuff joe. Thats helpful to know that just increasing the gain is going to affect the plugins on the channel. I have been doing this but im going to switch back to actual automation. You and gregor are awesome at efficiencies and making understandable content. Thanks man😎
Applying this tutorial of Volume Automation was key in saving my songs and helping to create that even mix!! Thanks Joe!!!
Thanks Joe! Being a newbie to S1 and a new Sphere member, these tutorials really help with the learning curve...
Thank you so much! I needed to know how to make my volume automation smoother and your video showed me exactly what I needed to know.
Thanks to Gregor for the Option/Alt A and point-click way for selecting automation. Well, if it's just volume automation the advantage is small, but try Option/Alt A inside a plugin. Then you can automate whatever control is there. Much easier than stepping through a sometimes long list control names for that plugin.
Joe is the man! I was lost until I found your videos.
Great video Joe. Thanks for a better understanding of automation. And a big shoutout to Presonus for making a fantastic D.A.W.
Wow that was great! Thank you very much!
Kinda surprised you didn't mention simply adding a mixtool. Sometimes it's just faster and easier.
Your comment is worth more than his whole video. I really like the DAW, but it seems there's no one who knows it. His videos are needlessly long and uninformative.
wow, THANK YOU JOE AND GREGOR
I am using studio one 5 pro this is the best DAW ever really , Its easy and very hyper active Daw not like logic Pro and Ableton - this is very professional -
You can check out my all tracks made by this S.O5 - PLZ MAKE A VIDEO ON HOW TO MASTER THE TRACK
I use the alternative method you showed where I adjust the audio event - works for me.
The range tool method, that's what I was trying to do earlier today thanks for this!🛸🤖
Great tips and always Joe! Thanks!
ONLY IN 'REAPER' THE VOLUME AUTOMATION IS PRE-FADER SO YOU CAN AUTOMATE THE VOLUME AND STILL CAN CHANGE THE OVERALL VOLUME OF THE TRACK WITH TRACK FADER. PLEASE ADD THIS FEATURE TO STUDIO ONE. THIS IS THE ONLY THING THAT BOTHERS ME IN STUDIO ONE.
Please!
Killer, thanxx Joe, this really made my day!
Quality video Joe!
Hey Joe, another great video that is bringing me over to Studio One and abandoning Logic and Reaper. One question/concern. I see that your VCA fader actually moves the channel faders. My limited understanding is that the VCA on an analog console wouldn’t have moved the channel faders (I think). In both Reaper and Logic, when moving the VCA faders, the channel faders stay put, but the volume on them definitely increases/decreases. Any idea why the difference and is there a different outcome when the faders move? I would think it wouldn’t be desirable since you may end up getting your faders into that area where you start to be less precise on your volume? Thanks!
Most times I find myself using the gain envelope, because it works a lot faster. And my fader won't be affected.
why doesnt studio one have "audio pitch automation" :(
Great video, thank you Joe!
oh wow I didn't now about the clip gain thing, that is SO useful. But how can you be sure you are not clipping the clip ... ?
Thanks, Joe. This is great. I have a stupid question, though. What’s the difference between volume and expression?
Also... when Joe shows (at 9:20) moving the entire performance up and down, he is basically using Volume to do what others use Expression and THEN Volume to do. That is because Studio One is so flexible with its automation. With some other DAWs, you might have to automate cc#11 and cc#7 separately to accomplish the same thing.
Use the method that works best for you and any collaborators you are working with. The broader you work, the more you may find you need to work to convention.
@@lofomuses Thanks for that. I appreciate it.
I have plugins that do automation, I use them and it helps a lot especially with vocals
Thanks for the great learning videos
Feature request: Just make a Pro Tools / Logic Pro style volume trim automation feature. That way the fader is not locked in, and the automation is working relative to the fader position so you don't have to mess with automating the gain in MixTool every time.
Hey Joe - Can you do one on saturation?
nice job Joe!
Hi ...thank you ..Novice here so please excuse the dumb question .. Lets say I have a track and I want to modify the volumes to a few different levels as the song progresses. How might I accomplish that please? Thank you
One thing I miss from Reaper when I use Studio One is Reaper's Trim/Read automation mode. This lets you automate the volume fader without the automation taking over the fader. That is, you can still use the fader to trim the volume with its automation.
That's possible in Studio One
@@CrazyDroiid46 How?
@@ДмитроБарабаш-в2д I've never found a way. What I do instead is put a copy of Mixtool at the end of the FX chain and automate its volume level instead of the fader.
Really helpful Joe.
Joe, that drum mix is great. how'd you do that?
Thanks a lot dude!
it looks like you have a keystation pro 88, how do you get the record,play buttons on the left to work. and how can you use the faders on the mixer?
Does anyone know this? I've put a filter plug-in on an audio track, and automate it with a midi controller. Everything works fine, but when I want to record the automation, it erases the audio. I have no clue where to search for the solution. Automation for midi-tracks works perfectly fine 🤔
Is volume automation in the Studio1 professional version 4 or was it added in a later version?
How would you go about Mapping Expression ?
Is it possible to see graphical change in the wave file?
Hey Joe thks for the video!! Do you know any tutorial to stream with a imac gran sur using studio one? I would be great to anyone with an presonus interface!! Live stream going up!!
Isn't there two other ways as well? - like just pressing A, or the tiny little button on the bottom of the tracks on the edit screen / those are my two fav ways to access the basic automation
I'm trying to do a volume automation on two musical tracks separate from the track's fader, how do i do this? I tried bus track and it didn't accomplish it how i wanted
One Question. Is it possible to record the volume curve (progress) from one audio take and then copy to a other? Sorry for my bad english in advance. ;-)
This question is for anyone who knows. I’ve now been a Studio One 5 Sphere user for a week. I love it. BUT, when doing auto punches I like to put them numbers in the L and R locators when making surgical punches. However, the L and R next to the loop is not there on mine. How do I find it? I’m sure I just need to click on something somewhere. Help?!?!
need a "waves vocal rider plugin" type function that it auto adjusts the volume.
I notice that the volume automation level stays in place even when I click a different layer to the top. I would have thought that the volume auto would stay with the layer?
If I have a bunch of automation and I need to change the volume over all, I slap a mixtool on it and do it that way.
Can you automate volume with a knob? I have the Presonus Atom MIDI Pad with four knobs at the top and can’t figure out how to automate with them
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Amen!
Agreed.
When to do that.. before or after Gain staging ?
I have this problem regarding automation.. Why do channel automations hide themselves once you come back from automation view. I wish it was possible to always keep your bus/fx automation lanes always visible. Anyone can help ?
Guess you missed the gem called mixtool in studio one
Or gain envelope, even easier and a lot faster.
Does that range tool create new area/event work on midi track? I tried and it didnt
Could somebody tell me why I can´t see the beats (4/4 2/4 and so forth) in the new version of Studio One 5.3???? It´s really killing me!!! I´ve created a short cut to insert a beat change but it doesn´t show in the time line!!! HELP PLEASEEEE!!!!
Cool video. Thanks! 👍
Why can’t I stop singing What’ Up by 4 Non Blondes after watching this video??
Love clip gain automation
i like to open the automation by clicking WRITE then ride the fader.
eek! how do you turn the automation off?
What is a Gregger
That reverb/delay should be named Church-Play as a preset. Coldplay live verb/delay at church.
It's too bad the mixtool gain only goes to -24dB, otherwise that would be my goto for fading instrument tracks. This is a nuisance, I think.
First to say thank you today!
on my screen the A in the left top corner is completely invisible! S1 COLORS SUCK !!!
CLIP GAIN ENVELOP!!! damn I'll have to upgrade hahaha i'm on SO4
You should NEVER automate faders for volume. Don't we have an insert that we can automate volume like Ableton's "Utility" plugin?
Hi Brian, we certainly have that also - It is called "Mixtool" (you can find it in the "Effects" Browser). Alternatively, if you don't want to ride your faders, you could also use Studio One's VCA faders! Check out this video if you'd like to learn more about this feature: studio.ruclips.net/user/videoBEM2YpxG0Ws/edit
-GBY
Are you and Gregor OK bro?
the volume points snap I have snapping off this is so annoying
"...we all try ta do whatever Gregor says..." Gregor has that superior Germanic Anglo Saxon ex Royal family member look who did a Harry on it and fecked off and studied audio engineering to become a techno head..... Is that what you mean Joe? 🤣
It sounds fine to me lol.
This is literally the most inefficient way to do it.
11:25 is what i came for and i bet a lot of you came for this too.
for studio one 5 professional. how do you automate volume in the project page
they have added the feature in 5.5