The solar charger should have been built into the Tesla. When you got to work , there is at list 8-9 hours sitting at empty lot at work.If you could get 20 mile of charge out to it , it would make a world difference , my work is about 14 miles from my home.
It's better if work simply puts in solar panels over parking lot, and installs grid-power level2 chargers, but offset by the solar... often schools/libraries do this. One-car-sized panels are not enough to add significant charge, vs the cost
Yep, it's a great idea but at a high cost, the solar roof on new Prius Prime will charge 5-6 miles a day at peak watt capacity, but it costs over $600, which wille take over 5 years of solar charging to recoup the investment. Tesla vehicles have even larger glass roofs, i would guss the costs are much higher.
@@the_Acamanat $600, the return on investment would be fairly quick even if it was 5 miles/day. Figure a normal car gets 25mpg. So at 5 miles per day = 25 miles/week. You’ve produced one gallon of gas. (Say it’s shady or no production two days a week) So at $3.50/gallon times 52 weeks = $182/year. Payback would be 3.3 years. Not bad, and free “gas” from then on.
This is essentially what Aptera is doing with their EV. It weighs about half what a Model 3 does, was designed with total efficiency in mind, and has enough built in solar panels to generate about 25-30 miles of range per day. For many folks with short commutes, this would be totally sufficient, and allow them to drive almost entirely off solar power. Rich Rebuilds reviewed an early prototype about a year ago, and Donut just did a review of a near production ready model. These things are awesome (if you don’t mind a 2 seater and some pretty crazy styling) and start around $30k. Would really like to see them succeed.
Lets not forget that it still has a plug. If solar minimizes DCFC or saves on expensive (california) home charging. Personally I'm looking forward to Aptera but actually care little about solar since here in BC power is cheap and vandalism is a concern. High efficiency EV sports car with storage and right to repair is enough....
So cars used to have 'crank start' meaning no starter with a key you had to turn a handle dynamo power style to start it. Is we brought that and solar panels back we could actually get rid of the alternator provided we added mini wind turbines to the top of the car we could drive and drive and drive....
@@savage.4.24 no, those turbines and solars will be expensive as hell and actually decrease the range because you need to sacrifice aerodynamics and weight for pretty much nothing
The onboard AC>DC Converter can handle any voltage from -200 to +200 Volt, it will likely need only different software to work as a mppt charger. - anyone from tesla here reading this?
Because generally speaking, it's very expensive and panels are usually delicate. Service would be a nightmare. It also adds significant weight, and does not add meaningful mileage to a car of that weight and battery size. The car would have to be designed from the ground up to make this work in a way enough people would want to make money off of. I highly recommend you take a look at Aptera if you want to see what it takes to make solar work well.@@l4kr
If you are talking about Tesla's idea of distributed power through the atmosphere, it's extremely inefficient at best, if one could actually make it work.
Cool! I have exactly that Jackery unit plus some Renogy panels that give me more than 400W of power total. I knew about the neutral-ground trick to fool the EVSE, but thanks for the inspiration to do it myself.
Yippee hurray!! Three days ago I mentally asked the question, can an ev get charged by a Jackery Solar generator!! Thank you! The world needs more electrical engineers!!
Thanks for doing this experiment. I was wondering if the Jackery would work with Tesla and you just saved me a tons of money and time to see it come true.
3 miles per hour is only worth it if youre going way offroad far from towns. great for hot countries, but then again tesla is not so great for a hot country cause it heats up interior faster. Future teslas would do well to have solar power roof instead of viewing window which benefits the driver only if youre looking at parking signs.
2 miles for each hour charging... assuming you have full sun. I guess if your stranded somewhere, you might have enough charge to get home after a week or so..
Solar panels work, only when there is no cloud in the sky. When the sun is covered by the cloud, the charging will stop. Some battery will re-start charging after the clouds pass but some need your intervention to get it to work again. If you have the latter, you have to, like the presenter, sit close to the car and watch. For camping, the camp sites are usually in the shade, which greatly limits solar charging efficiency. You can find a spot with an unobtrusive view to the sky for charging, but then you may need to sit close to the car to watch it.
@@Ninety9924 I'm not as familiar with the BMS for EVs compared to the ones in electric bike batteries but I'm not aware of anything that prevents "restarting". The battery will pull as many amps as it can when they're available when the voltage of the batteries is low enough compared to the voltage of the charger (solar panel array). I don't know about this Tesla but I heard the Hummer EV has a direct DC port as well as the normal one.
This seems awesome if you are using the Tesla for camping. The car just sits there all day anyways, might as well recuperate your charge from using the hvac at night.
Even if you only got 10 miles of range a day out of a solar roof, thats still 3600 miles per year which is 36% of the average persons needs annually. (At 15 miles per gallon average in gasser thats 240 gallons or around $1000.00.)
This so great if you’re completely stranded but 2 miles an hour is slower than a normal 110v wall outlet. We have solar at home and before solar credit we’re only about $120 per month. I put about 1,100 miles per month.
Its really an ad, these were given to everyone, even PC repair shops. This is the least effective way to charge a Tesla, seeing as your suffering the battery loss of the portable battery bank, then outputting to your Tesla which will again have another set of losses.
This video was not sponsored. On a good day you might get 10 mi from 4-100W panels, so about 24 days to go from 10% to 90% charge. Full charge would not be the uses case, you would prob just collect free miles as you use the car.
@@BeatTheBush NOBODY CAN ANSWER THIS : CAN I CHARGE MY JACKERY WITH 35,000 POWERBANKS? I KNOW IT NEEDS TO BE RIGGED SOMEHOW...I HAVE 3 OF THEM.THEY ARE REVPOWER
Couldnt you just rig an interior drape so that its getting the entire roof and never remove it? Im sure it would be slow but stable and never have to remove it
Well, if that car sits under the sun whole day, result would be different. As someone mentioned in other comment, you'll get more than 10 miles, not bad.
@@wisdomandlove1661 if this type of ev is all you have, then get enough panels on your home to effectively charge your vehicle. Something like 10kwatts worth. That would give most people about 60kwhrs of total charge, if you left it plugged in all day. Thats about the typical battery capacity for an ev. Unfortunately that's about $20K worth of panels and equipment in US dollars. Otherwise you are still using grid power to charge, which is whole other can of worms.
@@wisdomandlove1661 just fyi, if you had the ev covered with solar panels, you might have about 400 watts . The better ev's use about 200whrs per mile. So with this setup you could park for an hour and then drive 2 miles. However that does not take into account the battery losses , so,realistically you could probably drive one mile for every hour you parked in the sun. a small wind generator would produce quite a bit less power. This of course assumes you aren't using any extra power such as lights, heater, ac, wipers, etc. So yes it could work i suppose, if you lived in a nice climate and only had to drive a couple miles to work. But then in those conditions I'd probably just ride a bike:)
As many as the car can hold but you want them to be secure against theft. If you have custom panels and cover every inch of the top of the car, you'll likely get 800-1000W in full sun.
This one has its own charm. There's something special about it that sets it apart from the ordinary. It might be a small detail or a combination of features, but it definitely has a certain je ne sais quoi.
Can you get an adapter that allows you to charge the car with DC from the batter as opposed to using the AC output? That would probably increase efficiency.
No such adapter exists. You can hack your own and pretend to be a DC fast charger using the existing charge port. However, that requires knowledge of the proprietary Tesla signaling protocol and likely a step up of the dc voltage to over 400-600 VDC.
u could easily duoble the amount of solar panel on ur car giving 1000 watts/h = 4 mile range/h. so lets say u to the beach stay there for 6 hours this would give u 24 mile range, which is really not bad. but it doeasnt works in europe, germany has even in summer whole month no sunshine.
The Aptera is actually trying to make this viable, going from 3-5 miles of range added/day to around 40 which makes it actually usable for a daily commuter.
@@BeatTheBush composites are 7x stronger than steel. The Elaphe motors in the wheels allow for a larger crumple zone that was actually designed by Roush to deflect the momentum under the cabin. It has dual front airbags as well. I think those things along with Sandy Munro being involved from the beginning, it’ll be quite safe although nothing is safe at 110. 😊
@@BeatTheBush - It is basically a "High Strength Motorcycle Helmet" with Additional Steel Framework! Maybe "Stopping Distance" is a Concern, for the 3 Wheeler, but, few people ask that! 🤔🧐🥴🙄
@@robertweekley5926 the vast majority of your braking power comes from the front wheels. Also sbkit 2/3rds kf it's weight is on the front wheels. Combine thst eith it being around 2000 lbs vs about 4000 for a model 3 and I'm willing to bet it has a much better braking distance.
So as an electric Engineer. I know the Jackery Waists a TON of power converting DC to AC doesn't it? How much could be saved if you were to dump straight DC into the car? Also to that effect... what would it take to build a DC Solar Charger for a vehicle?
Tesla should really build-in solar panels into the soon roof. Even if you just gain a couple miles. Just imagine, the car charges a little while parked anywhere.
not just the roof, make the frunk out of solar panels also. Maybe even some solar panels on the rear glass section. I would pay extra for a solar powered tesla.
This is my first view of your channel. As RUclips entertainment I give it five stars. As a practical example of actually charging the Tesla, not really. But as a clear demonstration of the concept, excellent! The development of higher output ultra lightweight flexible panels, and the manufacturer integrating plug and play external connectivity will make this a real thing. This video sparks the imagination, and I hope spurs such development into reality.
Wow! Tesla can really have built in solar panels glass on the door windshield and back. They have another solid panels on the hood side door and back trunks. That can produce about 40-60 miles every 10 hours. This will be game changer. Seriously! Protera company already doing it.
Wouldn't be cost efficient. I would be fine with just a solar option under the panorama roof. That would only add 600$ and very little extra weight and add about 5 miles of range per day which I would pay for.
Polish company has developed windows that function as solar panels. Currently producing house windows, but there's potential for car windows in the near future.
@@Owsryudie I guess we have to base it on average input expected on specific date of the year and azimuth is not that relevant, therefore car orientation does not change?
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Just don’t do that in bay area when you are not there, otherwise when you are back there would be big hole on your windows and all the gears be all gone
The difference would be nothing. I saw a video about that where they took two Ioniq 28 (EV) one full with people and golf bags, and another one empty. They drove the same distance at the same time and the final consumption was identical. The difference of weight between the two car was 260kg or about 16%. So you can imagine the result would be the same with a few solar panels and a battery weighting *at most* 50kg. Actually to be precise in their testing they observed the lighter car to consume more (ever so slightly --> 0.1 to 0.2 kWh) and they thought maybe it was the car heating that worked less as they performed this test in winter. The people's body heat could have contributed. Could also be the margin of error as no two cars are 100% identical.
Tesla can add solar roof which can charge a smaller battery which can be used for Sentry mode and Cabin Overheat protection that why it does not impact your actual range.
Wait till you get an Aptera. 700w from the solar panels, but the car only uses 100 wh/mile. They say it can pull up to 40 miles a day from its solar panels...
@@denisbaev5479 Where do you live, Greenland? I'm pretty sure they've done their maths. The thing uses 100wh per mile, so if you have a 700w solar output, every hour of charging theoretically gives you 7 miles. I assume there are some losses there, because over 10 hours (let's say 8am to 6pm) that would add up to 70 miles not 40. But I take your point, we will just have to wait and see how it pans out in practice. Obviously, the sunnier the location, the more miles you are going to get...
700 is never going to happen due to different angles on panels. At peak in super ideal conditions it might hit 625w. The key detail is the average per day and on paper in some areas they could hit 4.8 kwh; 3.5 kwh in summer in california is likely and that definitely can move the needle.
These charge at about 4-5Mi of range per hour... Definitely an emergency helper. But you need to have your panels out for a long time... Great for camping.
This 400 watt configuration will like generate 0.3 kWh per hour so you'll get 1 to 1.5 miles per hour if it's a clear sunny day. I doubt even that the way the panels are not oriented in a optimized way.
The tea was a nice touch. I was curious if this were possible. I bought a Leaf a couple of years ago and was kinda disappointed that it didn't come with solar panels in the roof... I mean... it makes sense to me!
Yes, independent off grid energy is nice indeed. Will get even nicer with better solar panels/stronger batteries/faster charging/possible nighttime charging in the future from the moonlight if the labels become strong enough? Nice stuff in store for the future! Always a reason to be hopeful and positive about the future!
@@kuzinit2374 The amount of power vs the cost of that equipment is such a horrific ROI that is the reason ZERO Electric cars do this. It's basic math. This video MOCKS the stupidity of the average Green Idiot. He sat there for hours and thousands in equipment for 3 MILES of range.
@@chidorirasenganz Yep, Sono Sion too. What people don't realise is that for the average car, yes a solar roof might not add loads of range, but what it will do is COMPLETELY ERADICATE phantom drain. I'd love to drive to the airport in my EV from home and have say 40% battery when I leave the car, not enough to get home, but over the course of a week it keeps trickling in for free and gets up to maybe 65-70% charge and you return from vacation and can drive straight back. That really appeals to me.
Dude, the car loses 3-5 miles of range in a day just sitting there with the batteries discharging under their own parasitic losses. You spent how much on that inverter battery pack and the solar panels and sat there in the sun all day just to undo that parasitic loss?
You get it back in two hours, and this is just a video he made to entertain and inform. Imagine this setup camping or out in the field away from electricity instead.
@@phillipsusi1791 maybe you can’t count? This is about the same as being plugged into a 110V outlet, which many people do. No, it’s not a supercharger, but it’s a charging solution when there is no electricity available. Isn’t that the point?
@@danimal999 Maybe you didn't watch the video? He charged the car with a 120V outlet from the battery bank. He could only do that for a short while before the battery was depleted ( and that after dialing down the current the car was charging at iirc ). It took all day to charge up that battery from the solar panels in the first place. There's a big difference between being plugged into a 120V outlet all day and night pulling 1500W vs 600W ( the minimum setting the car can charge at ) for less than 3 hours a day. The latter is only going to get you about 8 miles of range per day, and the car loses about 5 just sitting there. So I guess over the course of a week with good sun and no rain you might end up with a few ( ~18 ) more miles of range than you started with, but that's best case.
But Jackery SPECIFICALLY state they only recommend pass through charging (using your power station whilst simultaneously charging it) when the output is less than the input : Jackery : 'However, we recommend this feature to be used only on your device(s) that drain less power than the input wattage shown on the screen of your power station'
You have something like a 40,000 watt hour battery. The solar panels will give something like a max of 400 watts at peak. That will take 1000 hours or around 125 days to charge the car battery.
your math is off, that would be 100 hours. That said, the avg is 5hr/day solar, so 100/5= 20 days for a full charge. Still bad, but not quite as bad as you claim
Nice to see you hitting the road now. It opens a new source of content while remaining in line with your concept of stress-free living on the cheap. If you want to go even further, you could install a tow hitch on your Tesla and then buy a brand new enclosed trailer for around $6k and install solar panels on the roof and set up beefy batteries, an inverter, and a portable air conditioner inside the trailer like Will Prowse did on his chanel. Throw a sleeping cot in it as well and you now have a budget camper that'll let you live offgrid whenever you want.
@@rupe53 - While likely true, there are people that don't "Road Trip" each Day, or "Commute a 100 Miles a Day", like so many of my Co-workers do! like, myself, for instance! I drive so little in my Commute, a slightly more sophisticated 300 Watts Rig, above this on presented, would cover my Commute and Shopping trips, for most Months, 6-9 Months per year!
@@robertweekley5926 ... you missed the point that adding a trailer for better accommodations would far outweigh any possible solar gain. Have you ever tried to find a parking space for a trailer at a grocery store or just driven through town with one? Yes, you could reduce your needs to suit the power available, but at what cost? It would be cheaper / easier to find the freebie charging facilities around town and bring your camp chair to gain the 5 mile range.
@@rupe53 And what happens when you decide to camp off-grid way out in the boonies where the closest Level 2 charger is 100 miles away and you only have 10 miles left in your Tesla's battery? ... but you still have plenty of sun? You can only do Level 1 charging with the 120 Vac setup shown in this video. That's 2 miles of range per hour. However, there are split-phase inverters that you can purchase which will do 240 Vac output which then means you can do Level 2 charging at 9 to 52 miles of range per hours. With a trailer loaded up with 10 or even 20 solar panels rated at 240W each, you can charge up quick and go as far as you want from "free" ground chargers. BTW, where exactly are YOU finding "free" ground chargers? But, yes, you are correct about cutting your max range by hitching on a trailer to an ANY vehicle. But saying that it cuts it by "over 60%" is a bit extreme, no? It of course depends on many factors ... are you driving across flat lands or over hills and mountains? ... how much weight are you putting into the trailer? ... what is the drag coefficient of your trailer? ... have you ensured your tires are properly inflated to 32 PSI? To reduce coefficient, manufacturers are already offering V-nose trailers since even off-gridders with ICE vehicles are already concerned about saving fuel while hauling trailers on camping trips. As for your question, "Have you ever tried to find a parking space for a trailer at a grocery store or just driven through town with one?" ... I'm going to go on a limb here and say you live in a highly populated city and have never went on a road trip beyond your area's suburbs, correct? Because, had you left your metropolitan area, you would have discovered that there are numerous locations within a mile or two of 99% of America's freeway and highway main exits where you can ABSOULTELY find a parking space for your car and a trailer. Where do you think truckers with their 18-wheelers sleep for the night now? Not only do truck stops with convenience stores and restaurants in them want your business but Walmart allows overnight stopovers for RVs and camper trailers as well ... it's literally on Walmart's corporate web page ... "While we [Walmart] do not offer electrical service or accommodations typically necessary for RV customers, Walmart values RV travelers and considers them among our best customers. Consequently, we do permit RV parking on our store parking lots as we are able." Anyways, you're asking questions that RVers and campers with trailers have already vetted for the past 50+ years ... so, do a little research and stop thinking that the rest of America is myopically constrained to the same lifestyle that you city rats limit yourselves to. If that's what you really think, then why are you on THIS channel to begin with?
Love the addition of the tea! Nice touch! Since you are charging with your car and relaxing with tea, why not have another panel or two spread out on the ground?!?
Thank you so much. I was on the fence whether to buy an electric car, but this video convinced me to buy another gas car. I think I am going to go with a new prius.
You're losing a lot of energy by charging a jackery then charging your Tesla battery from the jackery. Those portable solar panels fall apart fast and are 3x more expensive than some that you could ground mount at home
Can you make a video on charging a Tesla at home with an off grid setup for people living in an apartment who can't connect to their grid. Include fast charging options and best panel and portable battery setup for the best price.
My current videos does this already. 20kWh battery, 5k inverter, 1.2kW solar. It powers many things in the house and can give around 30miles extra to charge the car per week. If it's solely used for charging the car, it can provide a full charge every 10 days.
It would be way more efficient if he used a DC-DC boost converter and kept it DC, from the solar panels, through the boost converter, directly to the charge port. But 400 watts of (PEAK) power would still be prohibitively slow 😞
That was very relaxing, watching you brew and enjoy your tea in the parking lot. I think a lot of people didn't understand this to be a humorous academic exercise than an actual demonstration of charging your Tesla with portable panels.
I'm excited about how accessible solar is becoming even if still pricey. I was thinking of setting up a rig like this to power my chicken coop's lights and heating/cooling but i think it would take a lifetime to pay itself back in electricity savings. Did the car charge at its usual 5mph rate even when plugged into the battery?
The only reasonable reason to own this thing is for backup power purposes. Since the unit can do 1800W out, it can handle the 4-5mi/hr charge rate which is roughly 1400W.
GoHerping - Not all "Calculations" are considered! for example, if the Grid goes down, and you can't get Fuel for your Generator: how do you then "Put a Price on the Uninterrupted Power you have created for your use case?" Or, what if you are just seeking to use less "Peak Time Of Use" Grid power, or even just "Zero" out, that part of your Grid Usage? or, use it to create Content for a RUclips Channel, that gets "Monitized?"
you know if you pay someone to do it for you it is very pricy... but I think there are enough DIY stuff in the market that you can make good use of. you probably wants to start with a 350W portable solar panel, a battery and a manual switch which you can switch between using the grid or your battery. once you figure it out, it would be adding an Automatic Transfer Switch and expanding your panels and battery until you are all good.
i live off grid , i needed power and couldnt keep running a generator,, I have 1800w of panel and 5kw of battery and 1500w constant inverter, total cost so far 1500nz ,, got batteries free from a truck place, not perfect but fine for now,, next mission build up system so I can run my welder for a bit,, got better batteries coming, again free,, need more panels and a 6000w inverter, should cost another 1200nz to do this,, industry throws stuff away all the time like batteries , just got to go ask,,
New solarpanels bring max 450 w , perhaps it is more effective to fix such a panel on your roof permanently. You can go where you want and in the meantime the panel charges your car. Or am I wrong ?
For a 82kWh battery, charging with 400W panel array will take 10 days with continuous sunlight. Having 8 hours of full solar power per day, that’s 32 days
This would be good to use at work. I work for 9 hours so even if I get a few extra miles a day it makes sense to do. Would want a few more panels. Over the life of the car those extra miles will add up.
Tesla makes solar panels.. but doesn't offer them as a roof option .. DUMB. People willing to pay big bucks for Tesla options would certainly pay $5k for a Solar Roof on their cars.
@@KrustyKlown Well, it's just not very practical tbh. It fits some niche cases, but in general, you're far better off just putting solar on your home for a variety of reasons. For example, by adding fixed solar panels when the car is destroyed the solar panels are destroyed as well. They have contemplated the notion of the CT bed cover having solar panels on it though, likely with a wing extension option, which could be viable. Either way though, it's simply not practical for their entire lineup and presently they are building as many cars as they can by making the builds as similar as possible.
@@Zaerki Nothing Practical about a lot of Tesla options, their customers are all wrapped up in the hype, even paying for options that don't exist, lol ($15K for full self driving that isn't yet) .. and when all Model 3/Y's look the same, having a solar hood/roof would be the only symbol of Tesla stature. So why not, Musk could get $10K for that option.
@@Zaerki You could have substituted your paragraph with "I'm a Tesla Cultist" and saved us both time. Have a good day. Sorry if reality sucks for you .. Tesla sells many options that are NOT complete "Coming Soon" is what their website states for their $15K Full Self Driving that is still in Beta testing for longer than people have owned their cars, lol. The reality IS .. people like you LOVE Tesla, and will buy these over priced incomplete features just to have them .. so WTF not sell a solar roof/hood since Tesla makes solar cells ?? You people will buy them, so why not sell it?? It doesn't need to make sense, Love ain't sensible. FYI - I don't hate Tesla, it's a great car.. hell, they use products with my Patents. What I do hate is their marketing practices, and how Tesla Cultists are blind to the deception.
Stop the madness. For those who don't know much about solar, this is a terrible idea and a waste of your time. Those portable panels are usually inefficient. The best you're going to get per 100w panel for the entire day is ~400wh. 400w x 4 = 1,600wh. A Tesla will get about 4 miles per kilowatt so your best case scenario is 6 miles. Nobody is going to sit their Tesla out in the sun all day with 4 portable panels sitting like that. I mean, you can just set those panels elsewhere and use it to charge your power station and bring that power station with you in case of emergency but to hook all that up is a big waste of time. He knows this is a waste of time. He made the video so it can get clicks and he's successful at that.
This is cool and all and I appreciate the content, but there's a reason cars don't come with built in solar panels to charge the drive battery. Haha Solar tech is no where near close enough for it to be a reliable source for driving day to day. As an emergency back up? Sure, but that's about the extent of it currently. EDIT: love Jackery. Great company.
Thing is, if they did integrate them with cars, they could probably do it for a lot less and they could make integrated panels look pretty cool. There is free real estate on the front hood the roof and the trunk.
@@macmcleod1188 they are good for caverns. not for private cars. a portable solar panel one can generate 350W, good enough for daily need if you have the space to spread them out.
An electrical engineer... ought to be able to make a system that did not do a DC to AC to DC conversion, and could charge the car in motion. Just a thought. Tea looks good.
@@Deatonis Every EV made can recharge it's battery with regenerative braking while in motion. There are even videos of people tow-charging them. Peace out.
@@BeatTheBush Airbags, crumple zones and egg shape - should do fine. VW beetle is very safe on front and rear impacts despite also being fairly small - Aptera even rounds the doors also which is why the window needs to be split; that makes the sides safer. CFSMC / SMC are very common materials in sports cars - not totally new ground. Aptera is a velomobile because the 3rd wheel improves aero but it is still gonna get crash tested like a "normal" car (despite not legally needing to).
I'm not sure why EV manufacturers DON'T include solar panels on the roofs considering that most EVs right now are luxury cars that cost 50k+ brand new, even a few solar cells baked into the hood, roof and or trunk would be a fraction of the cost in comparison to everything else in a car such as a Tesla and it would essentially just give you free miles. Yeah solar doesnt put out much, but for a case similar to mine: I work from home and drive maybe 20-30 miles a week to run errands in my small town. I did the napkin math the other day, If 80% of the surface area on the roof of my theoretical average sized sedan EV were solar panels (I used a mazda 3 sedan for measurements) I would theoretically never need to plug in and charge my car for most of my vehicles use, unless I take a road trip which is pretty dramatic. I would basically be saving roughly 10 Lb's worth of coal every week if it were used in a power plant to charge the car.
there are too many drawback for now 1) you said it. the output is so bad. you get like 6 miles per 8 hours of direct sunlight which you would get more by plugging it into a home outlet in 1.5 hours. 2) heat is not good to battery but to get solar power you must leave it under the sun. 3) then there are the shade and rainy days. we had a straight 3 week rainy days in the beginning of the year so you have to plug the car into an outlet anyway. putting everything together it is too much effort and too little gain
good point about it hurting the battery. Speaking of the heat, any AC you use to counteract the extra heat in the car from leaving it baking in direct sunlight for 5+hours, once you start driving, also eats away into any savings you got
Great video! Q, what Amp should I charge my car at home? I have a NEMA 1450 on a 50 amp circuit. While using the app, I can go up to 32 amp or go down to 5 amp. What is the referral link for? They no longer give miles for that. OR did they go back to that?
@@BeatTheBush thanks, i have all night to charge, so no need to push the hardware. Is slower charging pr faster charging better for battery health and longevity?
32 amp is the max for Tesla Mobile Charger. I usually set it at 20amp-24 amp , just feel better, the slower , the better for battery life, but it is 100% fine to charge 32amp at home... If you buy the Tesla Wall charge, it can be easily hooked up with your 1450 outlet wiring , it will charge up to 40 amp something, check the Tesla Website
this gives me a great idea of charging my car in the sun while at work! all i need is 2-100W panels inside the front & rear windows? I already have a Bluetti AC200...since my commute is only 7mi round trip.
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The solar charger should have been built into the Tesla. When you got to work , there is at list 8-9 hours sitting at empty lot at work.If you could get 20 mile of charge out to it , it would make a world difference , my work is about 14 miles from my home.
It's better if work simply puts in solar panels over parking lot, and installs grid-power level2 chargers, but offset by the solar... often schools/libraries do this.
One-car-sized panels are not enough to add significant charge, vs the cost
Yep, it's a great idea but at a high cost, the solar roof on new Prius Prime will charge 5-6 miles a day at peak watt capacity, but it costs over $600, which wille take over 5 years of solar charging to recoup the investment. Tesla vehicles have even larger glass roofs, i would guss the costs are much higher.
And then the homeless people in your cities can come by and take it. Very kind solar panel owners
@@vassell86Being able to charge my car even if it's just for 10 km range is priceless to me. I would pay that 600 easily to have that option
@@the_Acamanat $600, the return on investment would be fairly quick even if it was 5 miles/day.
Figure a normal car gets 25mpg. So at 5 miles per day = 25 miles/week. You’ve produced one gallon of gas. (Say it’s shady or no production two days a week)
So at $3.50/gallon times 52 weeks = $182/year. Payback would be 3.3 years. Not bad, and free “gas” from then on.
I do the exact same thing. I take a one week vacation just for this purpose. I pick a store front parking lot and spend my time there. Worth it.
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This is essentially what Aptera is doing with their EV. It weighs about half what a Model 3 does, was designed with total efficiency in mind, and has enough built in solar panels to generate about 25-30 miles of range per day.
For many folks with short commutes, this would be totally sufficient, and allow them to drive almost entirely off solar power.
Rich Rebuilds reviewed an early prototype about a year ago, and Donut just did a review of a near production ready model. These things are awesome (if you don’t mind a 2 seater and some pretty crazy styling) and start around $30k. Would really like to see them succeed.
Lets not forget that it still has a plug. If solar minimizes DCFC or saves on expensive (california) home charging. Personally I'm looking forward to Aptera but actually care little about solar since here in BC power is cheap and vandalism is a concern. High efficiency EV sports car with storage and right to repair is enough....
but isn't the solar system itself already decreases the total range?
So cars used to have 'crank start' meaning no starter with a key you had to turn a handle dynamo power style to start it. Is we brought that and solar panels back we could actually get rid of the alternator provided we added mini wind turbines to the top of the car we could drive and drive and drive....
@@savage.4.24 no, those turbines and solars will be expensive as hell and actually decrease the range because you need to sacrifice aerodynamics and weight for pretty much nothing
Came for the solar, stayed for the tea.
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Where did the heart spoon come from?
I stayed for the Tandoori. But no Tandoori came. I'm complaining to the manager...
@TheChallenger1000 // I held RUclips like for the crying tears and none came.
Me too
You give a whole new meaning to "2 miles an hour so everyone can see me" and I like it! 😁👍
Lol, and that's a generous number!
I wonder how much efficient could it be if the car itself had the connectors for the solar panels so you could skip the DC>AC>DC conversion
Lots. 10-20% saved each step.
It's better to connect the solar MPPT to the EV charger
The onboard AC>DC Converter can handle any voltage from -200 to +200 Volt, it will likely need only different software to work as a mppt charger. - anyone from tesla here reading this?
Why aren't Teslas wrapped in solar panels? It's insulation and charging. You potentially never need to charge it if you don't use it enough.
Because generally speaking, it's very expensive and panels are usually delicate. Service would be a nightmare. It also adds significant weight, and does not add meaningful mileage to a car of that weight and battery size. The car would have to be designed from the ground up to make this work in a way enough people would want to make money off of. I highly recommend you take a look at Aptera if you want to see what it takes to make solar work well.@@l4kr
Tesla could make this whole thing obsolete by adding a small 200w roof that adds a small amount over time.
If you are talking about Tesla's idea of distributed power through the atmosphere, it's extremely inefficient at best, if one could actually make it work.
That won’t help not even by 1%
Toyota did this on 2nd gen prius to turn on fan while park and thought what a brilliant idea. I would also be very interested for solar tesla as well.
I agree, but Tesla owners would lose their panoramic glass roof.
@@byrnc927 many people don't care about glass roofs.
Especially in hot climates it sucks and adds to heat in the car making the A/C work overtime.
Cool! I have exactly that Jackery unit plus some Renogy panels that give me more than 400W of power total. I knew about the neutral-ground trick to fool the EVSE, but thanks for the inspiration to do it myself.
This is great. All you need now is 2 hours of your life, every day and within a year you will save $50 for your time
Hey want you to use the super chargers that's where the money is.
A charge box can be charged at home making them.nothing.
Yippee hurray!! Three days ago I mentally asked the question, can an ev get charged by a Jackery Solar generator!! Thank you! The world needs more electrical engineers!!
The bonding plug tricks the tesla charger into thinking it's plugged into a wall and not a solar generator.
@@BeatTheBush see aptera motors
Thanks for doing this experiment. I was wondering if the Jackery would work with Tesla and you just saved me a tons of money and time to see it come true.
3 miles per hour is only worth it if youre going way offroad far from towns. great for hot countries, but then again tesla is not so great for a hot country cause it heats up interior faster. Future teslas would do well to have solar power roof instead of viewing window which benefits the driver only if youre looking at parking signs.
I can see how this makes financial sense. I mean in a post apocalyptic world…
Get ready! Save this video offline just in case one day there is no internet due to EMP and no electricity
2 miles for each hour charging... assuming you have full sun.
I guess if your stranded somewhere, you might have enough charge to get home after a week or so..
Handy for end of days time, but all the roads would be filled with dead cars so can't use most of the roads.
Depends on how many miles a day you do. A small commute could be essentially made for free
@@spike178its best to get a monster truck then
I think this would be a great way to charge a Tesla while camping at a remote site! Thanks for sharing this idea!
Solar panels work, only when there is no cloud in the sky. When the sun is covered by the cloud, the charging will stop. Some battery will re-start charging after the clouds pass but some need your intervention to get it to work again. If you have the latter, you have to, like the presenter, sit close to the car and watch. For camping, the camp sites are usually in the shade, which greatly limits solar charging efficiency. You can find a spot with an unobtrusive view to the sky for charging, but then you may need to sit close to the car to watch it.
@@Ninety9924 I'm not as familiar with the BMS for EVs compared to the ones in electric bike batteries but I'm not aware of anything that prevents "restarting". The battery will pull as many amps as it can when they're available when the voltage of the batteries is low enough compared to the voltage of the charger (solar panel array). I don't know about this Tesla but I heard the Hummer EV has a direct DC port as well as the normal one.
Genius
I’ve always wondered why Tesla doesn’t create a wireless charging box for emergencies
Dude just chillin in the middle of a parking lot charging his car, dig it!
This seems awesome if you are using the Tesla for camping. The car just sits there all day anyways, might as well recuperate your charge from using the hvac at night.
You have 3 Jackery 200W panels, equals 600W max charging. How long do you want to charge your tesla with them? You need 181W for 1km.
Even if you only got 10 miles of range a day out of a solar roof, thats still 3600 miles per year which is 36% of the average persons needs annually. (At 15 miles per gallon average in gasser thats 240 gallons or around $1000.00.)
If you factor in the amount of air conditioner needed later on for staying under the sun that long…. well it’s better just stay under a shade.
The glass deflects photons going to the panels. Better having them in the sun directly. Nice setup though.
This so great if you’re completely stranded but 2 miles an hour is slower than a normal 110v wall outlet. We have solar at home and before solar credit we’re only about $120 per month. I put about 1,100 miles per month.
Little surprised you didn’t give the calculation on how many days it would take for a full charge ❤️😊
So the battery is like 50-70kwh, say 300mi range, and the solar panels are 0.2kwh a pop :) 20 miles per sunny day?
I thought he said you get like 3 miles for every 7 hours of charge. A few months I guess.
Its really an ad, these were given to everyone, even PC repair shops.
This is the least effective way to charge a Tesla, seeing as your suffering the battery loss of the portable battery bank, then outputting to your Tesla which will again have another set of losses.
This video was not sponsored. On a good day you might get 10 mi from 4-100W panels, so about 24 days to go from 10% to 90% charge. Full charge would not be the uses case, you would prob just collect free miles as you use the car.
@@BeatTheBush NOBODY CAN ANSWER THIS : CAN I CHARGE MY JACKERY WITH 35,000 POWERBANKS? I KNOW IT NEEDS TO BE RIGGED SOMEHOW...I HAVE 3 OF THEM.THEY ARE REVPOWER
Your intro line got me hooked ! Excellent experiment, you did what I always thought about the past few years
I charge my electric step/scooter with 3x 300wp solar panels. I have like 35miles each day from the sun.
Couldnt you just rig an interior drape so that its getting the entire roof and never remove it? Im sure it would be slow but stable and never have to remove it
Dang I thought you would get more miles out of that.
Thanks I can stop asking why these cars don't have built in solar panels.
Well, if that car sits under the sun whole day, result would be different. As someone mentioned in other comment, you'll get more than 10 miles, not bad.
Why not add a stationary bike hooked up to a generator for additional power? Or even a small version of a wind generator?
All these ideas are way to low of real power to be effective.
@@KevinSmith-os5yz is there a better idea?
@@wisdomandlove1661 if this type of ev is all you have, then get enough panels on your home to effectively charge your vehicle. Something like 10kwatts worth. That would give most people about 60kwhrs of total charge, if you left it plugged in all day. Thats about the typical battery capacity for an ev. Unfortunately that's about $20K worth of panels and equipment in US dollars. Otherwise you are still using grid power to charge, which is whole other can of worms.
@@wisdomandlove1661 just fyi, if you had the ev covered with solar panels, you might have about 400 watts . The better ev's use about 200whrs per mile. So with this setup you could park for an hour and then drive 2 miles. However that does not take into account the battery losses , so,realistically you could probably drive one mile for every hour you parked in the sun. a small wind generator would produce quite a bit less power. This of course assumes you aren't using any extra power such as lights, heater, ac, wipers, etc. So yes it could work i suppose, if you lived in a nice climate and only had to drive a couple miles to work. But then in those conditions I'd probably just ride a bike:)
Sir,
You can use thin sheet Dutch solar panels that can resists the drag to tap the continues sun.
How many solar panels can you add? Aka whats the max power you can receive from the sun
As many as the car can hold but you want them to be secure against theft. If you have custom panels and cover every inch of the top of the car, you'll likely get 800-1000W in full sun.
British tip: don't squeeze the bag as it makes the tea bitter x
Save the tea bag to brew it again and water plants with it.
@@theuglykwan bam, plant food. I will now save my Peace Lilly
@@theuglykwanmake plants with it?
@@chiarraz871 The brew from the used teabag can be used to fertilize plants.
Squeezing the tea bag makes it stronger, which some of us like. Try evaporated or condensed milk for a Bangladeshi style tea 😋
This one has its own charm. There's something special about it that sets it apart from the ordinary. It might be a small detail or a combination of features, but it definitely has a certain je ne sais quoi.
Can you get an adapter that allows you to charge the car with DC from the batter as opposed to using the AC output? That would probably increase efficiency.
No such adapter exists. You can hack your own and pretend to be a DC fast charger using the existing charge port. However, that requires knowledge of the proprietary Tesla signaling protocol and likely a step up of the dc voltage to over 400-600 VDC.
u could easily duoble the amount of solar panel on ur car giving 1000 watts/h = 4 mile range/h. so lets say u to the beach stay there for 6 hours this would give u 24 mile range, which is really not bad. but it doeasnt works in europe, germany has even in summer whole month no sunshine.
The Aptera is actually trying to make this viable, going from 3-5 miles of range added/day to around 40 which makes it actually usable for a daily commuter.
Took a look and the elephant In the room would be what about it’s crash safety rating going at 110mph with a resin shell?
@@BeatTheBush probably A LOT better than a motorcycle.
@@BeatTheBush composites are 7x stronger than steel. The Elaphe motors in the wheels allow for a larger crumple zone that was actually designed by Roush to deflect the momentum under the cabin. It has dual front airbags as well. I think those things along with Sandy Munro being involved from the beginning, it’ll be quite safe although nothing is safe at 110. 😊
@@BeatTheBush - It is basically a "High Strength Motorcycle Helmet" with Additional Steel Framework!
Maybe "Stopping Distance" is a Concern, for the 3 Wheeler, but, few people ask that!
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@@robertweekley5926 the vast majority of your braking power comes from the front wheels. Also sbkit 2/3rds kf it's weight is on the front wheels. Combine thst eith it being around 2000 lbs vs about 4000 for a model 3 and I'm willing to bet it has a much better braking distance.
He is living his best live. I love it.
So as an electric Engineer. I know the Jackery Waists a TON of power converting DC to AC doesn't it? How much could be saved if you were to dump straight DC into the car? Also to that effect... what would it take to build a DC Solar Charger for a vehicle?
Get rooftop solar and a Zappi charger to add about 70 miles a day to the car battery, or look at an Aptera.
Tesla should really build-in solar panels into the soon roof. Even if you just gain a couple miles. Just imagine, the car charges a little while parked anywhere.
not just the roof, make the frunk out of solar panels also. Maybe even some solar panels on the rear glass section. I would pay extra for a solar powered tesla.
@@Lowness125-r6m well obviously a "solar powered tesla" would not be possible, but it would be neat to leave SentryMode on without range loss
Well is what say. Panel in all car include Doors recibe charge to car
This is my first view of your channel. As RUclips entertainment I give it five stars. As a practical example of actually charging the Tesla, not really. But as a clear demonstration of the concept, excellent! The development of higher output ultra lightweight flexible panels, and the manufacturer integrating plug and play external connectivity will make this a real thing. This video sparks the imagination, and I hope spurs such development into reality.
I live in California and need to do this, thank you for sharing & your dry humor. 🫖
Wow! Tesla can really have built in solar panels glass on the door windshield and back. They have another solid panels on the hood side door and back trunks. That can produce about 40-60 miles every 10 hours. This will be game changer. Seriously! Protera company already doing it.
Wouldn't be cost efficient. I would be fine with just a solar option under the panorama roof. That would only add 600$ and very little extra weight and add about 5 miles of range per day which I would pay for.
Oh my, this is so dope! It's got an edgy style.
Jackery should offer a flexible car solar blanket that you just can plug into your powerstation. :-D
Or maybe a solar car charger. There is really no reason to need the powerstation.
Polish company has developed windows that function as solar panels. Currently producing house windows, but there's potential for car windows in the near future.
How long to charge Tesla to 100%? Thanks
Do the math??? xD
@@Owsryudie Is it a linear regression relation or the closer we get to full charge it charges faster or slower?
@@Owsryudie I guess we have to base it on average input expected on specific date of the year and azimuth is not that relevant, therefore car orientation does not change?
Teslas charges slower as you get towards 100% but solar charging is so slow it would just take anything it gives.
I don't think it ever would. The battery management system has a phantom drain more than those panels could provide
ايضا يمكن تصنيع غطاء يحمي السيارة من الأتربة أو الأمطار أو حرارة الطقس وفي نفس الوقت يزود السيارة بالطاقة الشمسية عن طريق خلايا شمسية ظمن الغطاء ويمكن حملة داخل السيارة❤
Just don’t do that in bay area when you are not there, otherwise when you are back there would be big hole on your windows and all the gears be all gone
A car for people who either doesn't have enough problems or simply just having too much times in their lives.
Great video. My question is, would the added weight of the panels and battery use more power than it generates? I would love to know the difference.
The difference would be nothing. I saw a video about that where they took two Ioniq 28 (EV) one full with people and golf bags, and another one empty.
They drove the same distance at the same time and the final consumption was identical. The difference of weight between the two car was 260kg or about 16%.
So you can imagine the result would be the same with a few solar panels and a battery weighting *at most* 50kg.
Actually to be precise in their testing they observed the lighter car to consume more (ever so slightly --> 0.1 to 0.2 kWh) and they thought maybe it was the car heating that worked less as they performed this test in winter. The people's body heat could have contributed. Could also be the margin of error as no two cars are 100% identical.
@@xWris3 Maybe the Ride Heigh could also play a minor Factor, heavier Car lower = more efficent aero maybe?
2 miles per hour for 9 hours that I am parked at work =18 miles per pay FREE . not a small think
Exactly. If you drive around that much for your commute, you have free commutes.
I do agree that this is worthwhile.
Tesla can add solar roof which can charge a smaller battery which can be used for Sentry mode and Cabin Overheat protection that why it does not impact your actual range.
Love your sense of humour, nice video 😂
Can I do this with my Chevy volt EUV 2023
Wait till you get an Aptera. 700w from the solar panels, but the car only uses 100 wh/mile. They say it can pull up to 40 miles a day from its solar panels...
Have a pre order, but not holding my breath to see even 10miles added per day. Lowering my expectations right from the start.
@@denisbaev5479 Where do you live, Greenland? I'm pretty sure they've done their maths. The thing uses 100wh per mile, so if you have a 700w solar output, every hour of charging theoretically gives you 7 miles. I assume there are some losses there, because over 10 hours (let's say 8am to 6pm) that would add up to 70 miles not 40. But I take your point, we will just have to wait and see how it pans out in practice. Obviously, the sunnier the location, the more miles you are going to get...
700 is never going to happen due to different angles on panels. At peak in super ideal conditions it might hit 625w. The key detail is the average per day and on paper in some areas they could hit 4.8 kwh; 3.5 kwh in summer in california is likely and that definitely can move the needle.
Probably should just read the comments but I am curious why you can’t plug the Tesla charger directly into the jackery
It has to do with the ground that the Tesla charger requires.
@@IceburgEVolution Very cool
These charge at about 4-5Mi of range per hour... Definitely an emergency helper. But you need to have your panels out for a long time... Great for camping.
This 400 watt configuration will like generate 0.3 kWh per hour so you'll get 1 to 1.5 miles per hour if it's a clear sunny day. I doubt even that the way the panels are not oriented in a optimized way.
You have just turned a Tesla into an Aptera. Now all you need to do is trim off all the extra weight and drop the drag in half and you're all set.
Great fun experiment, but the contain charging and draining is killing the Jackery also.
PG Tips is my favorite black tea. I recently gave up drinking caffeinated beverages including black tea and I feel better.
I recommend a roof rack with 3 ~500w solar panels. Have a slide out mechanism for two of them, like drawers.
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The tea was a nice touch. I was curious if this were possible. I bought a Leaf a couple of years ago and was kinda disappointed that it didn't come with solar panels in the roof... I mean... it makes sense to me!
Despite the roi on the charging not being much, I do think the concept and the fact its now been done is just really cool.
Yes, independent off grid energy is nice indeed. Will get even nicer with better solar panels/stronger batteries/faster charging/possible nighttime charging in the future from the moonlight if the labels become strong enough? Nice stuff in store for the future! Always a reason to be hopeful and positive about the future!
Yes , they should all come with built in solar chargers so they can charge all day , even if you are driving
@@kuzinit2374 The amount of power vs the cost of that equipment is such a horrific ROI that is the reason ZERO Electric cars do this. It's basic math. This video MOCKS the stupidity of the average Green Idiot. He sat there for hours and thousands in equipment for 3 MILES of range.
@@mr3817 actually there are cars with solar. The Aptera and Lightyear One being the most notable examples
@@chidorirasenganz Yep, Sono Sion too. What people don't realise is that for the average car, yes a solar roof might not add loads of range, but what it will do is COMPLETELY ERADICATE phantom drain.
I'd love to drive to the airport in my EV from home and have say 40% battery when I leave the car, not enough to get home, but over the course of a week it keeps trickling in for free and gets up to maybe 65-70% charge and you return from vacation and can drive straight back. That really appeals to me.
Not sure if Im watching to learn how to make tea or charge a tesla car with solar!
Dude, the car loses 3-5 miles of range in a day just sitting there with the batteries discharging under their own parasitic losses. You spent how much on that inverter battery pack and the solar panels and sat there in the sun all day just to undo that parasitic loss?
You get it back in two hours, and this is just a video he made to entertain and inform. Imagine this setup camping or out in the field away from electricity instead.
NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION
@@danimal999 Then it would just keep your battery from running down while you sat parked out in the woods for a month?
@@phillipsusi1791 maybe you can’t count? This is about the same as being plugged into a 110V outlet, which many people do. No, it’s not a supercharger, but it’s a charging solution when there is no electricity available. Isn’t that the point?
@@danimal999 Maybe you didn't watch the video? He charged the car with a 120V outlet from the battery bank. He could only do that for a short while before the battery was depleted ( and that after dialing down the current the car was charging at iirc ). It took all day to charge up that battery from the solar panels in the first place. There's a big difference between being plugged into a 120V outlet all day and night pulling 1500W vs 600W ( the minimum setting the car can charge at ) for less than 3 hours a day. The latter is only going to get you about 8 miles of range per day, and the car loses about 5 just sitting there. So I guess over the course of a week with good sun and no rain you might end up with a few ( ~18 ) more miles of range than you started with, but that's best case.
But Jackery SPECIFICALLY state they only recommend pass through charging (using your power station whilst simultaneously charging it) when the output is less than the input :
Jackery : 'However, we recommend this feature to be used only on your device(s) that drain less power than the input wattage shown on the screen of your power station'
You don't have to tell us you save the napkins. We know you do ;)
I do too, lol
You have something like a 40,000 watt hour battery. The solar panels will give something like a max of 400 watts at peak. That will take 1000 hours or around 125 days to charge the car battery.
your math is off, that would be 100 hours. That said, the avg is 5hr/day solar, so 100/5= 20 days for a full charge. Still bad, but not quite as bad as you claim
@@timothyn4699 I only added an extra 0 and 0 is nothing
Nice to see you hitting the road now. It opens a new source of content while remaining in line with your concept of stress-free living on the cheap.
If you want to go even further, you could install a tow hitch on your Tesla and then buy a brand new enclosed trailer for around $6k and install solar panels on the roof and set up beefy batteries, an inverter, and a portable air conditioner inside the trailer like Will Prowse did on his chanel. Throw a sleeping cot in it as well and you now have a budget camper that'll let you live offgrid whenever you want.
photovoltaic / solar thermal technician here: mentioning Will Prowse i tip my hat to you... you're on the right path Bro '
just one drawback... towing with any EV will cut your travel range by over 60%
@@rupe53 - While likely true, there are people that don't "Road Trip" each Day, or "Commute a 100 Miles a Day", like so many of my Co-workers do!
like, myself, for instance! I drive so little in my Commute, a slightly more sophisticated 300 Watts Rig, above this on presented, would cover my Commute and Shopping trips, for most Months, 6-9 Months per year!
@@robertweekley5926 ... you missed the point that adding a trailer for better accommodations would far outweigh any possible solar gain. Have you ever tried to find a parking space for a trailer at a grocery store or just driven through town with one? Yes, you could reduce your needs to suit the power available, but at what cost? It would be cheaper / easier to find the freebie charging facilities around town and bring your camp chair to gain the 5 mile range.
@@rupe53 And what happens when you decide to camp off-grid way out in the boonies where the closest Level 2 charger is 100 miles away and you only have 10 miles left in your Tesla's battery? ... but you still have plenty of sun?
You can only do Level 1 charging with the 120 Vac setup shown in this video. That's 2 miles of range per hour. However, there are split-phase inverters that you can purchase which will do 240 Vac output which then means you can do Level 2 charging at 9 to 52 miles of range per hours. With a trailer loaded up with 10 or even 20 solar panels rated at 240W each, you can charge up quick and go as far as you want from "free" ground chargers.
BTW, where exactly are YOU finding "free" ground chargers?
But, yes, you are correct about cutting your max range by hitching on a trailer to an ANY vehicle. But saying that it cuts it by "over 60%" is a bit extreme, no? It of course depends on many factors ... are you driving across flat lands or over hills and mountains? ... how much weight are you putting into the trailer? ... what is the drag coefficient of your trailer? ... have you ensured your tires are properly inflated to 32 PSI?
To reduce coefficient, manufacturers are already offering V-nose trailers since even off-gridders with ICE vehicles are already concerned about saving fuel while hauling trailers on camping trips.
As for your question, "Have you ever tried to find a parking space for a trailer at a grocery store or just driven through town with one?" ... I'm going to go on a limb here and say you live in a highly populated city and have never went on a road trip beyond your area's suburbs, correct?
Because, had you left your metropolitan area, you would have discovered that there are numerous locations within a mile or two of 99% of America's freeway and highway main exits where you can ABSOULTELY find a parking space for your car and a trailer. Where do you think truckers with their 18-wheelers sleep for the night now? Not only do truck stops with convenience stores and restaurants in them want your business but Walmart allows overnight stopovers for RVs and camper trailers as well ... it's literally on Walmart's corporate web page ...
"While we [Walmart] do not offer electrical service or accommodations typically necessary for RV customers, Walmart values RV travelers and considers them among our best customers. Consequently, we do permit RV parking on our store parking lots as we are able."
Anyways, you're asking questions that RVers and campers with trailers have already vetted for the past 50+ years ... so, do a little research and stop thinking that the rest of America is myopically constrained to the same lifestyle that you city rats limit yourselves to. If that's what you really think, then why are you on THIS channel to begin with?
Love the addition of the tea! Nice touch! Since you are charging with your car and relaxing with tea, why not have another panel or two spread out on the ground?!?
A whopping 3 miles 🤣
You Will LOVE 3 miles on 0%
@@angelgonzalez133 it's 0% except for the cost of the solar and the battery which you'll probably never make your money back on.
lets calculate
if Tesla has 85 Kwh battery and you are using solar that provide 0.5kwh that will take 85/0.5 = 170 hours to fully charged
Thank you so much. I was on the fence whether to buy an electric car, but this video convinced me to buy another gas car. I think I am going to go with a new prius.
You're losing a lot of energy by charging a jackery then charging your Tesla battery from the jackery. Those portable solar panels fall apart fast and are 3x more expensive than some that you could ground mount at home
I’d love to see a solar panel output 60% of their capacity. 4-100w panels and we saw 160w?
Sun was not the strongest. I saw 88W output from each 100W panel in full sun with this.
Output would have been greater if he had tilted the panels for direct sun!
@@BeatTheBush 1hr gives you 1% charg
Not to mention your actually using a nuther battery to change more than solar itself.
160w and 500w is a big difference
Can you make a video on charging a Tesla at home with an off grid setup for people living in an apartment who can't connect to their grid. Include fast charging options and best panel and portable battery setup for the best price.
My current videos does this already. 20kWh battery, 5k inverter, 1.2kW solar. It powers many things in the house and can give around 30miles extra to charge the car per week. If it's solely used for charging the car, it can provide a full charge every 10 days.
Straight and to the point. Love this!!
It’s only going to take about 5-7 days to fully charge nice
It would be way more efficient if he used a DC-DC boost converter and kept it DC, from the solar panels, through the boost converter, directly to the charge port. But 400 watts of (PEAK) power would still be prohibitively slow 😞
That was very relaxing, watching you brew and enjoy your tea in the parking lot. I think a lot of people didn't understand this to be a humorous academic exercise than an actual demonstration of charging your Tesla with portable panels.
Exactly. I did this... once. Not sure if I'll do it more than a few times only to figure how and if it can work in other ways.
@@BeatTheBush My friends complained when I commented on your Facebook post about this. People are taking it too literally. I thought it was hilarious.
This explanation does make much more sense.
You want the solar panels to be as lightweight as possible as the panel weight don't negate the additional electricity.
I'm excited about how accessible solar is becoming even if still pricey. I was thinking of setting up a rig like this to power my chicken coop's lights and heating/cooling but i think it would take a lifetime to pay itself back in electricity savings. Did the car charge at its usual 5mph rate even when plugged into the battery?
The only reasonable reason to own this thing is for backup power purposes. Since the unit can do 1800W out, it can handle the 4-5mi/hr charge rate which is roughly 1400W.
GoHerping - Not all "Calculations" are considered! for example, if the Grid goes down, and you can't get Fuel for your Generator: how do you then "Put a Price on the Uninterrupted Power you have created for your use case?"
Or, what if you are just seeking to use less "Peak Time Of Use" Grid power, or even just "Zero" out, that part of your Grid Usage? or, use it to create Content for a RUclips Channel, that gets "Monitized?"
you know if you pay someone to do it for you it is very pricy... but I think there are enough DIY stuff in the market that you can make good use of. you probably wants to start with a 350W portable solar panel, a battery and a manual switch which you can switch between using the grid or your battery. once you figure it out, it would be adding an Automatic Transfer Switch and expanding your panels and battery until you are all good.
i live off grid , i needed power and couldnt keep running a generator,, I have 1800w of panel and 5kw of battery and 1500w constant inverter, total cost so far 1500nz ,, got batteries free from a truck place, not perfect but fine for now,, next mission build up system so I can run my welder for a bit,, got better batteries coming, again free,, need more panels and a 6000w inverter, should cost another 1200nz to do this,, industry throws stuff away all the time like batteries , just got to go ask,,
New solarpanels bring max 450 w , perhaps it is more effective to fix such a panel on your roof permanently. You can go where you want and in the meantime the panel charges your car. Or am I wrong ?
😂 absolutely love how much detail he goes into with the tea 😂😂
and it taste like shit xD
Wrong title. Should be, how to make a tea in a tesla. :)
I feel like your panel tech is a good way to make it even more practical.
While this won’t work in real life for many reasons, Tesla really should let you add solar as an option.
The most entertaining and informative video on RUclips! Thank you 😂
For a 82kWh battery, charging with 400W panel array will take 10 days with continuous sunlight. Having 8 hours of full solar power per day, that’s 32 days
Thanks that's what I sed.
Get out of the clouds guys
One hour gives you 1% charge
This would be good to use at work. I work for 9 hours so even if I get a few extra miles a day it makes sense to do. Would want a few more panels. Over the life of the car those extra miles will add up.
Tesla makes solar panels.. but doesn't offer them as a roof option .. DUMB. People willing to pay big bucks for Tesla options would certainly pay $5k for a Solar Roof on their cars.
@@KrustyKlown Well, it's just not very practical tbh. It fits some niche cases, but in general, you're far better off just putting solar on your home for a variety of reasons. For example, by adding fixed solar panels when the car is destroyed the solar panels are destroyed as well. They have contemplated the notion of the CT bed cover having solar panels on it though, likely with a wing extension option, which could be viable. Either way though, it's simply not practical for their entire lineup and presently they are building as many cars as they can by making the builds as similar as possible.
@@Zaerki Nothing Practical about a lot of Tesla options, their customers are all wrapped up in the hype, even paying for options that don't exist, lol ($15K for full self driving that isn't yet) .. and when all Model 3/Y's look the same, having a solar hood/roof would be the only symbol of Tesla stature. So why not, Musk could get $10K for that option.
@@KrustyKlown You could have substituted your paragraph with "I'm a Tesla hater" and saved us both time. Have a good day.
@@Zaerki You could have substituted your paragraph with "I'm a Tesla Cultist" and saved us both time. Have a good day.
Sorry if reality sucks for you .. Tesla sells many options that are NOT complete "Coming Soon" is what their website states for their $15K Full Self Driving that is still in Beta testing for longer than people have owned their cars, lol. The reality IS .. people like you LOVE Tesla, and will buy these over priced incomplete features just to have them .. so WTF not sell a solar roof/hood since Tesla makes solar cells ?? You people will buy them, so why not sell it?? It doesn't need to make sense, Love ain't sensible.
FYI - I don't hate Tesla, it's a great car.. hell, they use products with my Patents. What I do hate is their marketing practices, and how Tesla Cultists are blind to the deception.
You can also attach a WIND TURBINE to the roof of your car that turns and charges your car while you drive.
The drag on the car will use more electricity than it generates. =D
Stop the madness. For those who don't know much about solar, this is a terrible idea and a waste of your time. Those portable panels are usually inefficient. The best you're going to get per 100w panel for the entire day is ~400wh. 400w x 4 = 1,600wh. A Tesla will get about 4 miles per kilowatt so your best case scenario is 6 miles. Nobody is going to sit their Tesla out in the sun all day with 4 portable panels sitting like that. I mean, you can just set those panels elsewhere and use it to charge your power station and bring that power station with you in case of emergency but to hook all that up is a big waste of time. He knows this is a waste of time. He made the video so it can get clicks and he's successful at that.
Have you considered a roof rack and a semi-permanent mounted panel?
This is cool and all and I appreciate the content, but there's a reason cars don't come with built in solar panels to charge the drive battery. Haha Solar tech is no where near close enough for it to be a reliable source for driving day to day. As an emergency back up? Sure, but that's about the extent of it currently.
EDIT: love Jackery. Great company.
It's a very expensive jerry can :)
Thing is, if they did integrate them with cars, they could probably do it for a lot less and they could make integrated panels look pretty cool. There is free real estate on the front hood the roof and the trunk.
@@macmcleod1188 they are good for caverns. not for private cars. a portable solar panel one can generate 350W, good enough for daily need if you have the space to spread them out.
@@egaskrad I can't figure out what you mean by "caverns". Bad auto correction?
@@macmcleod1188 caravan. thanks man.
An electrical engineer... ought to be able to make a system that did not do a DC to AC to DC conversion, and could charge the car in motion. Just a thought. Tea looks good.
Evs cannot charge while in motion
@@Deatonis Every EV made can recharge it's battery with regenerative braking while in motion. There are even videos of people tow-charging them. Peace out.
Tesla should just make cars with solar panels already installed.
yes yes yes !!!
Imagine if there were a way to make the whole body of the car solar.
@@GoogleVideoMan Aptera has one.
Can't you put a roof rack and permanently install a 2 / 300w panels on the roof ?
The drag will negate the free solar charging.
we want videos about dogee!! btw, nice vid..
Aptera has built in solar on their vehicles and can supply 40 to 50 miles of range on a sunny day.
But I want to know how it does in crash tests. Always uncomfortable about velomobiles.
@@BeatTheBush Airbags, crumple zones and egg shape - should do fine. VW beetle is very safe on front and rear impacts despite also being fairly small - Aptera even rounds the doors also which is why the window needs to be split; that makes the sides safer. CFSMC / SMC are very common materials in sports cars - not totally new ground. Aptera is a velomobile because the 3rd wheel improves aero but it is still gonna get crash tested like a "normal" car (despite not legally needing to).
I'm not sure why EV manufacturers DON'T include solar panels on the roofs considering that most EVs right now are luxury cars that cost 50k+ brand new, even a few solar cells baked into the hood, roof and or trunk would be a fraction of the cost in comparison to everything else in a car such as a Tesla and it would essentially just give you free miles.
Yeah solar doesnt put out much, but for a case similar to mine: I work from home and drive maybe 20-30 miles a week to run errands in my small town. I did the napkin math the other day, If 80% of the surface area on the roof of my theoretical average sized sedan EV were solar panels (I used a mazda 3 sedan for measurements) I would theoretically never need to plug in and charge my car for most of my vehicles use, unless I take a road trip which is pretty dramatic. I would basically be saving roughly 10 Lb's worth of coal every week if it were used in a power plant to charge the car.
there are too many drawback for now 1) you said it. the output is so bad. you get like 6 miles per 8 hours of direct sunlight which you would get more by plugging it into a home outlet in 1.5 hours. 2) heat is not good to battery but to get solar power you must leave it under the sun. 3) then there are the shade and rainy days. we had a straight 3 week rainy days in the beginning of the year so you have to plug the car into an outlet anyway. putting everything together it is too much effort and too little gain
They could put three to four 400-watt panels that what I did to my Prius Prime
good point about it hurting the battery. Speaking of the heat, any AC you use to counteract the extra heat in the car from leaving it baking in direct sunlight for 5+hours, once you start driving, also eats away into any savings you got
Retired industrial electrician, early retirement...Fun video, I want to test drive the Highland in Stealth Gray...
Great video! Q, what Amp should I charge my car at home? I have a NEMA 1450 on a 50 amp circuit. While using the app, I can go up to 32 amp or go down to 5 amp. What is the referral link for? They no longer give miles for that. OR did they go back to that?
Most would charge as fast as their hardware allows. Referral link gets you 1000 supercharger miles.
@@BeatTheBush thanks, i have all night to charge, so no need to push the hardware. Is slower charging pr faster charging better for battery health and longevity?
Referral for new cars has been dead for a year or so now. The only referrals are for solar.
32 amp is the max for Tesla Mobile Charger. I usually set it at 20amp-24 amp , just feel better, the slower , the better for battery life, but it is 100% fine to charge 32amp at home... If you buy the Tesla Wall charge, it can be easily hooked up with your 1450 outlet wiring , it will charge up to 40 amp something, check the Tesla Website
this gives me a great idea of charging my car in the sun while at work! all i need is 2-100W panels inside the front & rear windows? I already have a Bluetti AC200...since my commute is only 7mi round trip.