I’ve RV’ed with solar and lithium for years. These mini set ups are not made for charging the car. In an emergency it would be ok but definitely don’t make a habit of it because you will reduce the longevity of that ecoflow. In the panel install video you said you wanted this set up to ensure the ecoflow stays charged for the frig and cooking, stick with that use and avoid chargingvv the car outside emergencies. LOVE THE SET UP and really appreciate you sharing
The EcoFlow is lifepo4, 6000 cycles to 80% capacity. I would not worry. However, the way it is stored, it might reduce it much more due to getting hot.
The issue is not using the Ecoflow to charge the car, it is the deep discharge of the Ecoflow batteries. Lowest chargerate on Tesla appears to be 5 amps on 110v which is 3x what the panel can deliver. Thus, trickle charging directly from solar with the Ecoflow acting as a buffer/conditioner is not really possible without 2 more "hoods" worth of cells. Unfortunately the standards for EVSE etc seem to also be limited to 5-6 amps (10% duty on pilot signal, 5% meaning HLC protocol) and thus none seem designed to allow trickle charging through this standard port. I doubt the manufacturers have provisions for retrofitting extra charge-circuitry either to bypass this standard port. Would be nice though.
LiFePo batteries just LOVE being smoking hot... it's sweet, and helps all the magic pixies to come dancing out, sometimes they give you a nice little light show too!
Definitely worth considering some additional external panels for locations where you can safely use them, it'll give you a quicker extra boost when you need it :)
External panels can be ok but those ecoflow batteries aren’t intended to supply 1500 watts at constant for hours on end. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND not charging the car unless it’s an emergency
On that EcoFlow, you should not lay it on it's side. The cooling path is from one side to the other when it is vertical. when you have it laying down like you have it, the unit cannot cool itself. If you are going to lay it on it's side, you should put a 1 or 2 inch spacer between the bottom of the EcoFlow and the surface of the Tesla truck making sure that the spacer doesn't block the fan inlet / outlet. Better yet, for charging the Tesla, just set it up vertically on the back while you are charging. On the calculation, the EcoFlow is about 85% to 88% efficient when using the AC inverter so you can only get about 900 watts into the Tesla (or a little over 1000 watts with that solar input going at the same time). If you get 4 miles per KW, then that 1000 watts should give you about 4 miles. The over heating error should clear one the unit cools down.
I love that you installed solar on your car! With 200 W, you are looking at a maximum of probably 7 miles extra per day from solar energy. It would definitely be nice to come back to an EV with added range just from solar. Also, lowering the EcoFlow power output should help prevent overheating. You may want to reposition or vent around it to get better cooling.
For those who want to know the details on why he needs that little "grounder" dongle, it's because the Tesla mobile charger expects the ground and neutral to be bonded. If it detects that they are not tied together (floating), it will throw a fault. Most EV mobile chargers are the same way. Most inverters will not bond those by default for general safety, including the EcoFlow products. If you ever want to charge from a battery+inverter combo that is not tied to the grid (like he showed where he plugged into shore power), you just need to tie the neutral and ground pins together. And just a warning: You should never use a grounder like this if you are plugged into grid power, as that can potentially lead to grounded devices on the same circuit to potentially have stray current running through them, which could shock anyone who touches them. These things can only be used safely in completely off-grid situations.
@@EverydaySandro Sandro, the link to the grounder on your website leads to a product that is no longer available. Do you have a link to an available one?
Its just common logic lol! Its the same thing with electric or diesel electric trains! Trams, houses...... Ground is there to protect you and the equipment.
keep it pushing brother. thanks for showing us your awesome sustainable journey!! keep the ecoflow in an open space so it can stay cool and now absolutely fry itself !!!
BTW, search for the solar cannonball run here on RUclips. A guy drive coast to coast in a Tesla Model 3 and charging exclusively from a solar setup he had with him. It took him about an hour to set it up and the charging for about three days. Then he drive another 300 miles and started over.
I’ve done something similar with my Jackery and Model Y, although not a permanent setup like yours. One thing I do is run the charging cable out the driver side rear window and then roll it up until it just barely touches the cable. That way you can close all of your doors and hatch and still be charging when you’re away from Beluga. Keep up the great work!
@dalececil7527 I've used my 200W solar panels inside in Model Y on the front dash when parked, not very efficient, but I can get some battery charged that way. Also, have a Jackery
if you have a 50kW Tesla battery, and you show 240w of solar, depends on angle of sun and how many hours, I would suggest conservatively if you can get 5 kWh daily , that would be 10 days to charge. info suggests 240 Wh per mile. So you could optimistically get a mile per hour in best sun. Possibly 5 miles a day?
Dude, you are not getting 5kwh from 240w of solar daily. No where near it. The rule of thumb is take half of the wattage of solar and x10. So 1/2 of 240w is 120x10= 1200kwh. That's what you're hoping for on a good day of sun.
Congrats on 10K subscribers! I will remember I subscribed around 7K, especially considering your videos are going to go viral when you travel to South America!
Fun video. Based on the idea of high current voltage sag, most battery inverters (like your EcoFlow) trip on low voltage protection before they’re really out of useful power. I think you could probably get more total watt hours at lower charge car charging rates… Maybe set it to 5 amps and see if you can deplete the EcoFlow even deeper? I’d be interested to see that. It’ll be unbelievably slow for sure, but as you have solar charging happening, 150 watts of solar in with only 600 watts of power out would be a more efficient matchup. Also, with lower current draw, less heat production happens and consequently less wasteful cooling. Would be quite interesting to see!
Selecting the lowest possible charging rate in the Tesla will give a LOT more charge than letting it run 1.4 kW chargerate as it is overstressing the battery in the Ecoflow. The lower the rate the more of the energy can actually be drawn from the solar and the better for the internal Ecoflow battery.
Great video. I did a test similar to this with my Model Y but using Anker SOLIX F2000. I was also getting about 2-3 miles a day. Pretty cool setup. We just need to make the batteries lighter and smaller so we can add more batteries in the trunk to make it practical.
Dude, better also seal (clear sealant ) the panel joint in the middle, if rainwater comes in from this gap,there is no way the water go out. There will be chances for the Mould to build up.
Yes, overheating is a problem if you want more power from portable batteries. I find it interesting that you don't have portable solar panels under the car to pull out from the side and spread them out. Regarding overheating, it would be advisable to have active cooling if the battery is going to be enclosed in the car.
Hey Sandro 3:34 input is not changing because the eco flow 2 can only be combin charged when using solar AND AC input. This is likely because there is only one dc to ac converter so the ecoflow is choosing the larger source if it has that function. The number you see on the phone is the charging wattage available but not necessarily what is inputting into the battery to charge. Hope that makes sense and helps!
I might have confused myself there. The issue I think it was something with the app as the Watts Input did change, but the time to recharge the battery didn’t, which confused me. I appreciate your sharp eye!
Watt * Time = Energy I had solar panels on my car for a year. You get approx three times the nominal Wattage as energy. In simple terms, your 240 Watt panels will give you 0.72 kWh each day, In a Model X that is about 2 miles after accounting for losses in the EcoFlow and charger.
I wish we can have to option to have a solar panel roof, like le Prius Prime, instead of a giant glass roof. But it's incredible what you where able to do with that tiny surface on the frunk!
kinda wasteful taking power from the solar cells then using said power to charge and cool your battery pack then once full using that built up charge to then convert to AC to give the cars onboard AC to DC converter. In all those steps you probably lose more to heat than gained by the .2 kw of solar. It's probably easier to just charge the on board lead acid and keep it topped up instead of the car needing to. Thus allowing most of the cars electronics to run without depleting the HV pack.
Just trying to help. The ecoflow should be upright to prevent overheating and if that is a delta pro then you should be able to get about 6 miles from a full charge on it. Basically 640 wh per mile.
Dude your heart is in the right place, more power to you! Do we see that huge black top @ 0:21 : the roof, the dashboard below the windscreen and the space below the rear glass. That all should be structural solar on electric vehicles already. Companies are not doing it to reduce doing any research in the area. This could easily add 15-20 miles in SoCal for example to a Tesla.
That's less than $1 a day in electricity, assuming you're parking outside all the time. It really makes no sense in terms of cost. Imagine taking 20 years to break even... It makes 0 sense to put solar on cars for 99.9999% of vehicle owners.
It is a good set up for charging your ecoflow to be used for your appliances. But it cost you range on the car. If you have a full charge on the car and add the ecoflow to the car, over a full charge of driving the extra weight of the ecoflow will cost you more range then you will get out of the ecoflow. The ecoflow is nice to have if you run out of power, and someone can bring the charger to you and you are only a couple of miles to a charger. If you had the ecoflow delta pro, it is good for about 12 miles of range.
I think you could get the panels for the eco flow and store them to the inside of the trunk w a bracket. The benefit of those panels will be worth the storage space. The panels can be pretty small too.
The problem is that while you’re out in the middle of nowhere and staying inside your Tesla, you have to keep the aircon running to avoid being cooked. Obviously that’s going to take a lot of juice. If you can leave the car charging but go seek shelter elsewhere, then you don’t have to waste energy on the aircon. But as others have said, an external deployable solar array would be better for situations like this where you have unlimited space. You can even seek shelter under the external array.
To actually be able to charge the car he needs a lot of solar panels and his vehicle isn't really well setup for that! Imagine if he had one of those minivans with a massive boxy interior where he can store a lot of solar to deploy once somewhere!
Try using a transparent pan cover over your pan while cooking the eggs...it will not stick to a cast iron pan as the moisture is still retained.. Try this next time...butter and grease the pan, take a glass and put eggs and chopped onions, brocolli etc, put some milk or a dollop of cream, put some salt, stir it with a spoon and pour it in the pan, just sprinkle some oregano on top of it...then cover the pan with a transparent glass cover to keep the steam inside ...about 1 min later turn off..and keep the lid on..for about 30 secs...after that you can just slide the egg pancake on the plate..it doesn't stick at all.. This works with all SS induction pans..i have stopped using non stick teflon years ago.. Bon appetit.. Nice video btw .😊 I got a delta² .. Now going to figure out solar panels..
wait for your iron pan increase the surface temperature before you put the eggs on it. If you try to cook while your pan is not hot enough then it will stick, everything will stick if you dont wait enough to warm it up.
I just stumbled across your great channel & subscribed :) Thank you for sharing your journey! I have been using an old rigid panel on the roof racks of my model Y for a similar setup whilst touring for about 200W peak output, thinking of doing a second panel on a slide. I love your system integrated to the bonnet for adjust able angle - Well worth it! Great work! ❤
Are you able to add temporary panels to increase production? You also add extra battery packs on the hitch on small tray that could be disguised for more.
Am worried how you have kept the EcoFlow unit. Power systems should be well ventilated reference to their box. That equipment is not tested to be kept enclosed like that. Its a fire hazard. Please keep it out and may be put it in the enclosure when not in use. Keep safe.
I'm quite sure that part of the reason you reached 200W by lifting the hood has to do with the temperature of the panels not just the angle!. Panels are less efficient at high temperatures! I hope this info helps and that you give it a try maybe with whater or something .What you're doing is basically a dream of mine. Best of luck and safe travels!
@magnusandersson6533 I understand what you're saying... But the metal of the hood does react that quickly. And when you open it, air starts flowing through there. I watched several videos on how heat affects panels... And what it does is limit the amperage capacity. Somehow they get saturated. Anyway, obviously the angle is the biggest factor... I'm just saying it's something to think about... Cheers, thanks!
Should definitely look at getting some more ventilation around the Eco flow and as far as I know you're the second person to charge off of a battery storage system there was somebody who did it as a test in case you're ever too far away from an outlet and I have low battery. I'm sure there's been a few others. But you're definitely the first to have Solar on the car charge the car for a real car. Other than that guy who made a Chinese mini truck that self charges. I know a lot of people say putting Solar on vehicles makes no sense because you'll never be able to charge the battery but it's not about being able to charge the battery it's about being able to trickle it.
Considering ingeneuity, it's cool, considering comfort it's up to u, i sugest you add some flexible solsr panles or foldable one's so you can atach it to the roof with some clamps when you are stationary so that way you don't get robed and alsow you could reduce the weight by esentaly driling holes in yhe wood of the drawers if i can name them like that and ataching mabey some peltier modules to the glass so you can extract the temperature diference ofc using a full bridge rectifire to charge e phone or a small battery or smth like that, if you need more atvice just let me know
It's not a cleaning routine it's a wax on wax off routine part of your exercising. Really put the solar on the roof that's insane especially with the doors like that you'd have like no room. The hood or Frank makes so much sense. Especially with the ability to angle it. But again I shouldn't be surprised we're too busy trying to build solar roadways rather than having solar on everybody's roofs you know where nothing else is going on.
i have a solar powered chevy volt. 2013. has a 200w flexible solar roof. i get about 4 miles of range per day, you make way better use of the solar power by offsetting 12v low voltage loads rather than trying to put juice back into the hybrid battery. you dont pay the contactor tax (500w ish to enable charging) and you dont pay the 10-20% tax of the dc-dc converter or each inverter. if you had 1kwh of solar (~3-4 miles in a tesla), you would loos about 60-70% of it trying to stuff it back into your cars high voltage battery. comparied to if you just kept the low voltage system at a higher state of charge. I did this in my old volt by deleting the agm battery and replacing it with a 60$ 32ah lifepo4 battery i built which also saves about 45-50lb. i documented all of this on the gm volt forums under gen1 mods. the mods paid for themselves in gas savings after about 3months, and the car itself completely paid for itself after 18mo and 45k miles.
Great idea. I guess your goal should be to be able to run your appliances with the solar panel’s energy. And keep the Tesla charging for the normal chargers. 2 miles is not worth the effort!
@@EverydaySandro 60 solar panels, takes 15 minutes to setup, or 15 minutes to put back in trays. ruclips.net/video/XvnyK4kPgzg/видео.htmlsi=ATY2D-Eg35ExEegh&t=590
Here's my guess.... If solar panels on a Tesla were a viable method to charge it would ALREADY BE AN OPTION offered by Tesla on new cars. The fact they don't have this and don't even mention it means they don't want you to be disappointed with the fact you still need a fast charger to make these cars a viable transportation option.
2miles? probly burned that much cooking off the 110v outlet . Seen many videos doing solar tesla and need 10 to 20 unfolding pannels to get any real miles into the tesla battery
Technology is so crazy. I can’t believe you’re actually charging an eco flow battery just with the sun?! The same electricity that powers your phone, Tesla,etc is literally coming from thin air
@CristienPerez yes i know it so crazy how technology is going thesse days, he has it set up a way that economical for him, also being able to charge the eco flow from the sun like that, charging the to 100% then being able to charge the car as well from the EcoFlow is absolutely gob smacking, such a great idea....when he sayd at 07:35 that he lost 3% over night he can put that 3% back in by carging it up with the Ecoflow and then when road tripping is charging the ecoflow as well, he has it setup to charge both ways,, makes sense but technology is going better and better
@@CristienPerez it's literally nothing crazy! Its just meh at best! Nothing comes from thin air you need something to actually harness the energy which is very slow btw! He barely charged his car too lol!
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Congratulations for trying, but you're really going to need a lot more solar panels to be practical. I tried this with 21 100W solar panels, as 3 strings of 7, and could charge at 2kW from a 3kW 48V inverter and 4 13S scooter batteries - it works, but it isn't very practical in Europe with less sun, less places to lay them out and it takes a while to set up and pack away 21 panels, and you can't really leave them unattended. See youtube, Power of Light for Joe's solarcannonballrun - he used 64 solar panels with a Model Y to cross the USA last year from East to West!
If cost is not too much, I would add solar panels on the side doors, so you when parking your car all the day. So you will get sun on the east in the morning on your driver side doors, then sun on the hood at noon, and then sun on the west on the evening. Also when driving, you will be able to get more sun what ever direction your go. Note: In the case of three separate solar panel orientations, it would be more efficient to have separate solar inverters. I think I would use a 240V inverter which would be more efficient than a 120V inverter to recharge the 400V Tesla battery.
@ I live in Portland so you probably know what area I’m talking about but I’ve seen mountain lion prints in Northwest Portland right down below forest Park in the same area and there was deer prints so I guess the cat was trailing the deer
Lol!!!! There's not such things as "keyboards" warriors! People shares their opinions you either like it or not! People have been traveling to the most remote places with all kinds of vehicles even in the harschest winters to the north pole too solar is a help but not a solution.
If you want crazy solar setups go look at those big Mercedes sprinter diesel vans or bigger trucks like earthroamer.... They run all kinds of equipments from washing machines to large fridge, AC.....
Beluga is starting to look more like an Orca.
Dude I laughed so hard! Thanks for watching!
I’ve RV’ed with solar and lithium for years. These mini set ups are not made for charging the car. In an emergency it would be ok but definitely don’t make a habit of it because you will reduce the longevity of that ecoflow. In the panel install video you said you wanted this set up to ensure the ecoflow stays charged for the frig and cooking, stick with that use and avoid chargingvv the car outside emergencies. LOVE THE SET UP and really appreciate you sharing
Appreciate the advice and thank you for the kind words!
The EcoFlow is lifepo4, 6000 cycles to 80% capacity. I would not worry. However, the way it is stored, it might reduce it much more due to getting hot.
The issue is not using the Ecoflow to charge the car, it is the deep discharge of the Ecoflow batteries. Lowest chargerate on Tesla appears to be 5 amps on 110v which is 3x what the panel can deliver. Thus, trickle charging directly from solar with the Ecoflow acting as a buffer/conditioner is not really possible without 2 more "hoods" worth of cells.
Unfortunately the standards for EVSE etc seem to also be limited to 5-6 amps (10% duty on pilot signal, 5% meaning HLC protocol) and thus none seem designed to allow trickle charging through this standard port. I doubt the manufacturers have provisions for retrofitting extra charge-circuitry either to bypass this standard port. Would be nice though.
LiFePo batteries just LOVE being smoking hot... it's sweet, and helps all the magic pixies to come dancing out, sometimes they give you a nice little light show too!
Definitely worth considering some additional external panels for locations where you can safely use them, it'll give you a quicker extra boost when you need it :)
absolutely, which would bring up the charging voltage significantly to bring more charge into the ecoflow
External panels can be ok but those ecoflow batteries aren’t intended to supply 1500 watts at constant for hours on end. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND not charging the car unless it’s an emergency
On that EcoFlow, you should not lay it on it's side. The cooling path is from one side to the other when it is vertical. when you have it laying down like you have it, the unit cannot cool itself. If you are going to lay it on it's side, you should put a 1 or 2 inch spacer between the bottom of the EcoFlow and the surface of the Tesla truck making sure that the spacer doesn't block the fan inlet / outlet. Better yet, for charging the Tesla, just set it up vertically on the back while you are charging. On the calculation, the EcoFlow is about 85% to 88% efficient when using the AC inverter so you can only get about 900 watts into the Tesla (or a little over 1000 watts with that solar input going at the same time). If you get 4 miles per KW, then that 1000 watts should give you about 4 miles. The over heating error should clear one the unit cools down.
Thank you! I added a spacer and thank you for the advice!
Love that you are blazing your own trail with a lot of what you do Sandro!
Thank you, appreciate the support!
Thanks!
Very cool. I know Elon has commented about it not being work the cost / weight but in your case it's really cool to see this.
Appreciate the love!
I love that you installed solar on your car! With 200 W, you are looking at a maximum of probably 7 miles extra per day from solar energy. It would definitely be nice to come back to an EV with added range just from solar. Also, lowering the EcoFlow power output should help prevent overheating. You may want to reposition or vent around it to get better cooling.
For those who want to know the details on why he needs that little "grounder" dongle, it's because the Tesla mobile charger expects the ground and neutral to be bonded. If it detects that they are not tied together (floating), it will throw a fault. Most EV mobile chargers are the same way. Most inverters will not bond those by default for general safety, including the EcoFlow products. If you ever want to charge from a battery+inverter combo that is not tied to the grid (like he showed where he plugged into shore power), you just need to tie the neutral and ground pins together.
And just a warning: You should never use a grounder like this if you are plugged into grid power, as that can potentially lead to grounded devices on the same circuit to potentially have stray current running through them, which could shock anyone who touches them. These things can only be used safely in completely off-grid situations.
Thanks for sharing, I have a pure sine inverter from renogy. I always wondered if it could charge my car, but never tried it.
^legendary explanation! Thank you
@@EverydaySandro
Sandro, the link to the grounder on your website leads to a product that is no longer available. Do you have a link to an available one?
Its just common logic lol! Its the same thing with electric or diesel electric trains! Trams, houses...... Ground is there to protect you and the equipment.
Great explanation. I purchased one of these for Jackery and keep it in the carrying bag juuuust in case I need to do something like this
keep it pushing brother. thanks for showing us your awesome sustainable journey!! keep the ecoflow in an open space so it can stay cool and now absolutely fry itself !!!
Thanks! Will do!
BTW, search for the solar cannonball run here on RUclips. A guy drive coast to coast in a Tesla Model 3 and charging exclusively from a solar setup he had with him. It took him about an hour to set it up and the charging for about three days. Then he drive another 300 miles and started over.
I’ve done something similar with my Jackery and Model Y, although not a permanent setup like yours. One thing I do is run the charging cable out the driver side rear window and then roll it up until it just barely touches the cable. That way you can close all of your doors and hatch and still be charging when you’re away from Beluga. Keep up the great work!
You have solar panels on top of your car, charging a Jackery when the Model Y is parked?
Thanks, I’ll definitely try that!
@ yes, but using a portable 100w solar panel. It’s not the powerful permanent setup that Sandro has but it’s definitely a proof of concept.
@dalececil7527 I've used my 200W solar panels inside in Model Y on the front dash when parked, not very efficient, but I can get some battery charged that way. Also, have a Jackery
if you have a 50kW Tesla battery, and you show 240w of solar, depends on angle of sun and how many hours, I would suggest conservatively if you can get 5 kWh daily , that would be 10 days to charge. info suggests 240 Wh per mile. So you could optimistically get a mile per hour in best sun. Possibly 5 miles a day?
Dude, you are not getting 5kwh from 240w of solar daily. No where near it. The rule of thumb is take half of the wattage of solar and x10. So 1/2 of 240w is 120x10= 1200kwh. That's what you're hoping for on a good day of sun.
It is definitely a slow process, but I do get extra miles while I'm parked in the sun! It’s a 100kWh battery for Beluga
@@Firephosure that's not kWh but wh. Or 1.2kWh/day.
Ok seeing this was very neat. Keep up the good work.
I’m surprised you don’t have an ecoflow delta pro for your setup 😮
This is an amazing video I really enjoyed it keep up the good work
Happy New Year. All the best to you & Safe Journey!
Thank you, happy new year to you as well!
Congrats on 10K subscribers! I will remember I subscribed around 7K, especially considering your videos are going to go viral when you travel to South America!
Thank you! Looking forward to sharing the adventures with you. 🙏
I’m glad you have figured out how to charge off sun
Thank you for doing your experiments
Fun video. Based on the idea of high current voltage sag, most battery inverters (like your EcoFlow) trip on low voltage protection before they’re really out of useful power. I think you could probably get more total watt hours at lower charge car charging rates… Maybe set it to 5 amps and see if you can deplete the EcoFlow even deeper? I’d be interested to see that. It’ll be unbelievably slow for sure, but as you have solar charging happening, 150 watts of solar in with only 600 watts of power out would be a more efficient matchup. Also, with lower current draw, less heat production happens and consequently less wasteful cooling. Would be quite interesting to see!
I hope you’re safe out there !
Thanks! Always
@ sick project btw its brilliant
Foldable panels in the trunk you can pull out?
Pretty good project. Will be interesting to see it battle tested out on a trip!
Thanks! It was exciting to finally get this to work. The drive is next.
Selecting the lowest possible charging rate in the Tesla will give a LOT more charge than letting it run 1.4 kW chargerate as it is overstressing the battery in the Ecoflow. The lower the rate the more of the energy can actually be drawn from the solar and the better for the internal Ecoflow battery.
Amazing!!! But I'm more Amazed that you washed the Tessie! 🤣🤣🤣
Great video. I did a test similar to this with my Model Y but using Anker SOLIX F2000. I was also getting about 2-3 miles a day. Pretty cool setup. We just need to make the batteries lighter and smaller so we can add more batteries in the trunk to make it practical.
Sweeeet! How are you liking your Anker?
Dude, better also seal (clear sealant ) the panel joint in the middle, if rainwater comes in from this gap,there is no way the water go out. There will be chances for the Mould to build up.
Thanks for the tip! I'll get that sealed up soon!
Watched this video twice. Nice work.
Congrats!! 🙏🏻🙌🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Yes, overheating is a problem if you want more power from portable batteries. I find it interesting that you don't have portable solar panels under the car to pull out from the side and spread them out. Regarding overheating, it would be advisable to have active cooling if the battery is going to be enclosed in the car.
Nice job! Sandro
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
Hey Sandro 3:34 input is not changing because the eco flow 2 can only be combin charged when using solar AND AC input. This is likely because there is only one dc to ac converter so the ecoflow is choosing the larger source if it has that function. The number you see on the phone is the charging wattage available but not necessarily what is inputting into the battery to charge. Hope that makes sense and helps!
I might have confused myself there. The issue I think it was something with the app as the Watts Input did change, but the time to recharge the battery didn’t, which confused me. I appreciate your sharp eye!
Watt * Time = Energy
I had solar panels on my car for a year. You get approx three times the nominal Wattage as energy. In simple terms, your 240 Watt panels will give you 0.72 kWh each day, In a Model X that is about 2 miles after accounting for losses in the EcoFlow and charger.
I wish we can have to option to have a solar panel roof, like le Prius Prime, instead of a giant glass roof. But it's incredible what you where able to do with that tiny surface on the frunk!
Great video. Loved learning from you. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
kinda wasteful taking power from the solar cells then using said power to charge and cool your battery pack then once full using that built up charge to then convert to AC to give the cars onboard AC to DC converter. In all those steps you probably lose more to heat than gained by the .2 kw of solar. It's probably easier to just charge the on board lead acid and keep it topped up instead of the car needing to. Thus allowing most of the cars electronics to run without depleting the HV pack.
You should do more soler
Just trying to help. The ecoflow should be upright to prevent overheating and if that is a delta pro then you should be able to get about 6 miles from a full charge on it. Basically 640 wh per mile.
I appreciate the advice, it definitely gets hot out there in the sun. It does have proper ventilation because the vents are facing up!
Dude your heart is in the right place, more power to you! Do we see that huge black top @ 0:21 : the roof, the dashboard below the windscreen and the space below the rear glass. That all should be structural solar on electric vehicles already. Companies are not doing it to reduce doing any research in the area. This could easily add 15-20 miles in SoCal for example to a Tesla.
That's less than $1 a day in electricity, assuming you're parking outside all the time. It really makes no sense in terms of cost. Imagine taking 20 years to break even... It makes 0 sense to put solar on cars for 99.9999% of vehicle owners.
.00001% me - beluga
@@EverydaySandro haha yup
It is a good set up for charging your ecoflow to be used for your appliances. But it cost you range on the car. If you have a full charge on the car and add the ecoflow to the car, over a full charge of driving the extra weight of the ecoflow will cost you more range then you will get out of the ecoflow. The ecoflow is nice to have if you run out of power, and someone can bring the charger to you and you are only a couple of miles to a charger. If you had the ecoflow delta pro, it is good for about 12 miles of range.
I think you could get the panels for the eco flow and store them to the inside of the trunk w a bracket. The benefit of those panels will be worth the storage space. The panels can be pretty small too.
The problem is that while you’re out in the middle of nowhere and staying inside your Tesla, you have to keep the aircon running to avoid being cooked.
Obviously that’s going to take a lot of juice. If you can leave the car charging but go seek shelter elsewhere, then you don’t have to waste energy on the aircon. But as others have said, an external deployable solar array would be better for situations like this where you have unlimited space. You can even seek shelter under the external array.
Yeah, I doubt the panels can offset JUST the AC.
Who needs AC😉
To actually be able to charge the car he needs a lot of solar panels and his vehicle isn't really well setup for that! Imagine if he had one of those minivans with a massive boxy interior where he can store a lot of solar to deploy once somewhere!
Awesome bro. Sometimes a little extra goes a long way. Deze panels zullen zeker goed van pas komen when going down south 🙂
Bedankt maat, je weet maar nooit!
Try using a transparent pan cover over your pan while cooking the eggs...it will not stick to a cast iron pan as the moisture is still retained..
Try this next time...butter and grease the pan, take a glass and put eggs and chopped onions, brocolli etc, put some milk or a dollop of cream, put some salt, stir it with a spoon and pour it in the pan, just sprinkle some oregano on top of it...then cover the pan with a transparent glass cover to keep the steam inside ...about 1 min later turn off..and keep the lid on..for about 30 secs...after that you can just slide the egg pancake on the plate..it doesn't stick at all..
This works with all SS induction pans..i have stopped using non stick teflon years ago..
Bon appetit..
Nice video btw .😊
I got a delta² .. Now going to figure out solar panels..
wait for your iron pan increase the surface temperature before you put the eggs on it. If you try to cook while your pan is not hot enough then it will stick, everything will stick if you dont wait enough to warm it up.
The solar panel is an excellent addition to your car.👍
Awesome beans👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾😀🫘❤🚗
I just stumbled across your great channel & subscribed :) Thank you for sharing your journey! I have been using an old rigid panel on the roof racks of my model Y for a similar setup whilst touring for about 200W peak output, thinking of doing a second panel on a slide. I love your system integrated to the bonnet for adjust able angle - Well worth it! Great work! ❤
Glad you enjoyed it! The adjustable angle really helps with optimal performance!
That's cool, You need a bigger ecoflow that have 240V/30A and extra solar panel to have a decent charge..
It would definitely charge faster but that’s not the goal! I’m more interested in how well it powers my electronics with minimal to no input
Might reduce battery conditioning at a min, looks expensive to be practical, fun setup though.
Yes, but depends on what’s worth it for you!
I feel like this should be an option on tesla by default
Are you able to add temporary panels to increase production? You also add extra battery packs on the hitch on small tray that could be disguised for more.
Thank you and I don’t want them because they will remove valuable space
Am worried how you have kept the EcoFlow unit. Power systems should be well ventilated reference to their box. That equipment is not tested to be kept enclosed like that. Its a fire hazard. Please keep it out and may be put it in the enclosure when not in use. Keep safe.
It’s well ventilated down there as the vents are propped up on its side! Definitely something to be more mindful off, thanks for being here with us! 📸
i love your videos
Thanks for spending time with me - Beluga
very cool project. I have A Tesla X in Norway. amazing car.
Great video, keep doing what you do,
Thanks, will do - Beluga
I'm quite sure that part of the reason you reached 200W by lifting the hood has to do with the temperature of the panels not just the angle!. Panels are less efficient at high temperatures! I hope this info helps and that you give it a try maybe with whater or something .What you're doing is basically a dream of mine. Best of luck and safe travels!
@@juanpabloabalde i am 100% sure it has to do with the angle. Yes they are sensitive to heat, but they do not react that fast
@magnusandersson6533 I understand what you're saying... But the metal of the hood does react that quickly. And when you open it, air starts flowing through there. I watched several videos on how heat affects panels... And what it does is limit the amperage capacity. Somehow they get saturated. Anyway, obviously the angle is the biggest factor... I'm just saying it's something to think about... Cheers, thanks!
@juanpabloabalde not that it has any importance, but the debate is always fun :)
The temperature factor is something like
Your Ecoflow is over heating because you are blocking the air flow bents, take it out of there but keep it shaded.
Another fantastic video, Sandro! Two questions: (1) Do you recommend that vacuum? (2) If yes, do you have a link or name?
this is such a cool idea
Thank you!
I watch when I can. Assuming a boat around the Darian Gap, you’re really gonna need a generator and a couple gas cans.
Could you send them my way so we can donate them😉
Your wind screen also serves to reflect those rays to your hood.
Next time clean the windscreen also for perfect reflection
Or even better, get one of those foil windscreen shades - keeps in interior cooler and also reflects more sun back to the panels. All for a few bucks!
Ufff cleaning, we don’t do that in this household😉
Should definitely look at getting some more ventilation around the Eco flow and as far as I know you're the second person to charge off of a battery storage system there was somebody who did it as a test in case you're ever too far away from an outlet and I have low battery. I'm sure there's been a few others. But you're definitely the first to have Solar on the car charge the car for a real car. Other than that guy who made a Chinese mini truck that self charges. I know a lot of people say putting Solar on vehicles makes no sense because you'll never be able to charge the battery but it's not about being able to charge the battery it's about being able to trickle it.
The Aptera comes out this yes and I'll get mine probably in 2 year. Yes, and it comes with the option of solar panels.
George Davis
Good to know!
Nice job.
Appreciate you!
All that for 2 miles. Might be interesting if solar panels were on all panels though like doors, roof, etc.
Free = Free🧃
Considering ingeneuity, it's cool, considering comfort it's up to u, i sugest you add some flexible solsr panles or foldable one's so you can atach it to the roof with some clamps when you are stationary so that way you don't get robed and alsow you could reduce the weight by esentaly driling holes in yhe wood of the drawers if i can name them like that and ataching mabey some peltier modules to the glass so you can extract the temperature diference ofc using a full bridge rectifire to charge e phone or a small battery or smth like that, if you need more atvice just let me know
It's not a cleaning routine it's a wax on wax off routine part of your exercising. Really put the solar on the roof that's insane especially with the doors like that you'd have like no room. The hood or Frank makes so much sense. Especially with the ability to angle it. But again I shouldn't be surprised we're too busy trying to build solar roadways rather than having solar on everybody's roofs you know where nothing else is going on.
i have a solar powered chevy volt. 2013. has a 200w flexible solar roof. i get about 4 miles of range per day, you make way better use of the solar power by offsetting 12v low voltage loads rather than trying to put juice back into the hybrid battery. you dont pay the contactor tax (500w ish to enable charging) and you dont pay the 10-20% tax of the dc-dc converter or each inverter. if you had 1kwh of solar (~3-4 miles in a tesla), you would loos about 60-70% of it trying to stuff it back into your cars high voltage battery. comparied to if you just kept the low voltage system at a higher state of charge. I did this in my old volt by deleting the agm battery and replacing it with a 60$ 32ah lifepo4 battery i built which also saves about 45-50lb.
i documented all of this on the gm volt forums under gen1 mods. the mods paid for themselves in gas savings after about 3months, and the car itself completely paid for itself after 18mo and 45k miles.
You need to get cast iron hot then put egg 🍳 in and turn down
I am a rookie
Dude, thats awesome. If you ever in Texas come help me put solar panels on my model 3. Lol
I'll definitely be in touch if I make it down your way!
Love the Vid!
got a link to that vacuum cleaner ?
Great idea. I guess your goal should be to be able to run your appliances with the solar panel’s energy. And keep the Tesla charging for the normal chargers. 2 miles is not worth the effort!
That's the plan, but it’s neat to know I can help myself when I am in a pinch
Cool vid, not a world far from a world's first though
200 watt? you need at least 5,000 watt to fully charge your car in 1 day (it will take you 25 days to charge your car with 200 watt)
💯 but that wasn’t the point of this solar install :)
@@EverydaySandro 60 solar panels, takes 15 minutes to setup, or 15 minutes to put back in trays.
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Here's my guess.... If solar panels on a Tesla were a viable method to charge it would ALREADY BE AN OPTION offered by Tesla on new cars. The fact they don't have this and don't even mention it means they don't want you to be disappointed with the fact you still need a fast charger to make these cars a viable transportation option.
just awesome
2miles? probly burned that much cooking off the 110v outlet . Seen many videos doing solar tesla and need 10 to 20 unfolding pannels to get any real miles into the tesla battery
I’m mostly using the solar to charge my portable power station! 2 miles takes millions of year sponsored by the dinosaurs
@@EverydaySandro the dino power is from coal/nuke from a super charger right? nice that you charge the ecoflow to power the fridge and stuff
Another great video…ignore the haters ❤
Appreciate that, blocked out the haters😉🧃
How did you custom fit those solar panels???
How many miles do you have on the car now?
Where’d you get the vacuum?! I need it for my Tesla
It’s was a gift from a friend of mine, and unfortunately they aren’t sold anymore
Inspiring stuff. Looking forward to seeing more of your adventures.
Thank you, stay tuned!
I'm assuming you mean scratching the Teflon on the nonstick pan that you threw out.
Why not just buy one 400w folding solar panel?
I am lazy and don’t like setting anything up. All I have to do is find the sun and it charged the EcoFlow while I drive
@EverydaySandro yes but with less energy than the 400w panel
Technology is so crazy. I can’t believe you’re actually charging an eco flow battery just with the sun?! The same electricity that powers your phone, Tesla,etc is literally coming from thin air
@CristienPerez yes i know it so crazy how technology is going thesse days, he has it set up a way that economical for him, also being able to charge the eco flow from the sun like that, charging the to 100% then being able to charge the car as well from the EcoFlow is absolutely gob smacking, such a great idea....when he sayd at 07:35 that he lost 3% over night he can put that 3% back in by carging it up with the Ecoflow and then when road tripping is charging the ecoflow as well, he has it setup to charge both ways,, makes sense but technology is going better and better
It really is amazing what we can do these days!
Using the fusion reactor called Sun, nothing is coming from the air. But yea great way to get some free electrons. ❤🌞
@@CristienPerez it's literally nothing crazy! Its just meh at best! Nothing comes from thin air you need something to actually harness the energy which is very slow btw! He barely charged his car too lol!
You're late to the party. Most power stations, if not all, can be charged by solar.
So is th solar specifically for just the additional energy juice u need outside of th car?.. or actually for th car?..
I really like this
I'll do on the ground solar
Why didn't you add solar panels on all 4 doors and on your car roof?
Thanks for the analysis! A bit off-topic, but I wanted to ask: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (air carpet target dish off jeans toilet sweet piano spoil fruit essay). How can I transfer them to Binance?
how did you solve the mailing address issue?
Great video. I just subscribed. Have you thought about a wind turbine to harness wind energy as well
Haven’t thought about them too much tbh, not sure how to store them
@EverydaySandro there are smaller portable ones, that can fit
Congratulations for trying, but you're really going to need a lot more solar panels to be practical.
I tried this with 21 100W solar panels, as 3 strings of 7, and could charge at 2kW from a 3kW 48V inverter and 4 13S scooter batteries - it works, but it isn't very practical in Europe with less sun, less places to lay them out and it takes a while to set up and pack away 21 panels, and you can't really leave them unattended.
See youtube, Power of Light for Joe's solarcannonballrun - he used 64 solar panels with a Model Y to cross the USA last year from East to West!
If cost is not too much, I would add solar panels on the side doors, so you when parking your car all the day.
So you will get sun on the east in the morning on your driver side doors, then sun on the hood at noon,
and then sun on the west on the evening. Also when driving, you will be able to get more sun what ever direction your go.
Note: In the case of three separate solar panel orientations, it would be more efficient to have separate solar inverters.
I think I would use a 240V inverter which would be more efficient than a 120V inverter to recharge the 400V Tesla battery.
When you are cooking do any animals smell the food and come around?
Not here cause I wasn’t in bear territory. Normally I don’t cook where I sleep
@ have you had animal visitors? Do you ever share with them?
@ I live in Portland so you probably know what area I’m talking about but I’ve seen mountain lion prints in Northwest Portland right down below forest Park in the same area and there was deer prints so I guess the cat was trailing the deer
Why didn't you drive back to Boston?
Beluga didn’t want to do the drive
Id imaging a stone chip to the solar panels will quickly break them.
Don't worry about the keyboard warriors. There are many more people who truly support you!
@@overip please find a job
Be nice!
Cheers!
Lol!!!! There's not such things as "keyboards" warriors! People shares their opinions you either like it or not! People have been traveling to the most remote places with all kinds of vehicles even in the harschest winters to the north pole too solar is a help but not a solution.
If you want crazy solar setups go look at those big Mercedes sprinter diesel vans or bigger trucks like earthroamer.... They run all kinds of equipments from washing machines to large fridge, AC.....
Keep pushing 👊🏻🇳🇱👏🏻
To be honest if you got something for free that is getting paid.
Yes and no, because they gave me 100% freedom to do what I want with it