Hopefully we'll get to see them soon. But smartphones have physical contact with the wireless charger. Doing the same for cars will be a bit difficult.
I take issue with the headline (and not just the lack of "s" on "Station".) The suitcase-sized batteries are just about *last* on any EV driver's list of "must haves." I can imagine two niche cases though. A roadside assistance service might drop off one of these for the quite rare cases when EV drivers run completely out of juice. The portable charger need only get the vehicle to the nearest regular charger -- even a level 2 one -- and the cars give so many warnings before you run out that the driver was likely "almost there" anyway. (And of course, there would be a large fee if the portable isn't returned.) The second might be a very determined apartment-dwelling owner with modest daily needs whose landlord or municipality hasn't yet prepared for the EV transition -- or has chargers in the works, but not quite yet installed. So much the better if the owner can also use the suitcase battery for emergency backup household power. Not sure how safe this would be against theft and vandalism, though.
I do live in an apartment where the owners have voted against installing power outlets in the underground parking. Charging stations are a bit scarce in my area even though EVs are increasing in numbers rapidly. Therefore the few existing charge stations are very competitive and can sometimes be hours before one is available.
I borrowed my mother's Bolt EV to visit one of my friends last week and although the car may start complaining about range quite a while before shutting down, that is of very little consolation on a rural highway where exits are 20-30km in-between, the car itself quits reporting range estimates at 20km left, goes into power-limited mode somewhere around the 10km remaining mark and won't tell you the true shut-off SoC to let you know how close to screwed you really are. When I started on my return trip, I had a charging stop planned 105km in with ~140km of range left. Due to moderate rain and elevation, my ~30km margin melted down to 0 with 25km left until the charger. At that point, it became a bet between being able to find a charger at the next exit staying on course for the planned charging stop. I decided to continue instead of making a who-knows-how-long rural charger hunting detour. On the way up the overpass to the charger, it almost felt like the car was about to quit on me. I understand why some EV drivers would like to have 3kW of spare battery they can stuff in the trunk for road trips in case their car's range estimation has a significant change of opinion along the way. I'll have to increase my trip margin by at least 10% next time I borrow the Bolt.
Well this should really confuse those that watch. You are confusing devices here - apples and oranges. The portable wall chargers/adapters are different from the two battery chargers. The third battery charger with a Lithium Phosphate battery does not really have enough wattage to charge a car. I don't think it has a cord that connects to a car either. You would need to use its 220 outlet with your cars wall charger/adapter to make it work at all.
@@DailyAutomotive no, the last one you showed does not have a battery of any kind. It is something completely different. Please take the video down, cut that out and repost.
@weaesq Agree that there is a fundamental difference between a stand-alone EVSE that's plugged into a wall outlet and something that integrates battery storage for portability, and this video doesn't make that distinction clear. But to say that a lithium iron phosphate (LFP) battery doesn't have enough wattage to charge an EV is simply incorrect. Note that electric utilities now regularly use shipping containers full of LFP cells for grid backup at their large scale renewable energy (solar and wind) facilities. An individual LFP cell is nominally rated at 3.2V, while ternary chemistry cells (ie: containing combinations of nickel, manganese and/or cobalt) have cell voltages in the 3.7V range. So, it can be accurately said that LFP is less energy dense on the cell level when compared to other lithium ion chemistries. Want more voltage form any cell chemistry? Wire the cells in series. Want more current draw potential (amperage) at any given voltage? Wire your series strings of cells in parallel. Voltage times Amps, by the way, is Watts. Lots of reason why LFP cell chemistry is being used more often these days. Much of it comes down to durability. It can be cycled down to near zero and back up to brimming full without damage, and has the ability to cycle like this more than other cell chemistries without cell capacity degradation. It's also much safer in regards to the possibility of thermal runaway (ie: fire.) The video also incorrectly states that LFP is a "much newer" chemistry when, in fact, it was among the very first commercially-available lithium-based one developed back in the 1990s. Lot's of reasons why it's only now gaining popularity, but most of that comes down to patents, lawyers and international manufacturing agreements. The short story there is that LFP is now more available internationally than it was just a few years ago and we'll be seeing a lot more of it in the coming years, including inside the traction batteries packs of our electric vehicles. I've owned a small EV (Mitsubishi i-MiEV) for the past 8 years that I use for city driving and charge it exclusively from the 120V outlet located near my front porch. J1772 protocol specifies current flow down to 6A (720W @ 120V) and I have an aftermarket EVSE that allows for this "electron-sipping" setting. None of this, of course, would satisfy a use case where the quickest possible charging speeds and the longest nonstop range are requirement. I plan to utilize a portable LFP power station (battery capacity approximately half of the Ecoflow one shown in the video) with the ability to simultaneous bring in solar PV feed for some "just for fun" 6A off-grid EV charging experiments. The only problem I envision is that the inverters on these commercial LFP battery boxes typically have a floating ground and that an EVSE plugged into them typically won't operate ungrounded. I'll probably have to concoct a cheater plug of some sort, which will allow for a safe yet-to-be-determined separate grounding path.
@@benjaminnead8557 The utilities are using buildings full of batteries to get the power they need from LFP batteries. Nothing about the chemistry - it is probably safer than lithium ion. But that unit is too small to hold a large LFP battery for the power needed to significantly charge an EV car battery - maybe 5 miles for emergency. Better to get a plug in hybrid that has gas backup. Or just get a AAA card and have them tow your battery EV when needed to the charge station. If you are worried about floating ground, buy a copper ground rod and hammer it into earth ground and run a ground wire from it to the charger and attach it somehow (case?) to ground the charger/EV car.
@@weaesq Yes, maybe 5 miles of trickle charging with just the battery in the small power station I've detailed. But it's also able to bring in about 800W of solar simultaneously while discharging. So, that's pretty much an equilibrium for about 6 hours on a sunny day. 3 miles of extra range per hour at 6A/720W is what I'm expecting. 18 miles on such a day would be fine in my book. The power station will serve many day-to-day purposes. It's primary mission is not so much for roadside emergency EV charging. Mostly, I'll bring it along to run efficient electric cooking devices I take on outdoors day trips. But portable EV solar charging is also an interesting thing to show at places such as the science fairs I like to attend. "Significant" is a relative term. But, to clarify, your original observation that that LFP "doesn't really have enough wattage to charge a car" would be proven incorrect by such an experiment. Whether I or anyone else would want to rely on this exclusively every day is another matter. As for proper grounding: yes, the idea you've outlined is along the lines of what I've been thinking.
Im OK thanks got a charger at home and when travelling an extention cable with 240v adaptor, charge overnight where we are staying where there is a power point to charge but thanks handy to know
Any generator that was small enough to fit in the boot, would take 2 days to charge a typical EV, because it couldn't supply sufficient current. You'd need a generator the size of a shed.
well i pull a travel trailer with my ev6 kia and i boon dock i have 1k watt solar pannels with the ecoflow delta max pro i can charge my car to full an 10 hrs just sitting in the middle of no where as long as i got sun i just put it in the trunk and no worries i use it as a back up just in case no charging stations around or to pact
@@aliceinchainz3003 Thanks for the reply. Would you be willing to pay a premium if your battery pack offered a 20kW charging power? I'm doing research on this, I appreciate your feedback.
Problem with these portable EV Charging stations, people are jerks. There will be vandalism and people will steal the unit. Better to have the unit locked inside the EV car and just a inside port to plug to the EV to charge.
@@tonysaberwal8895As an option, the ability to extend the EVs range easily is a good idea. A portable charge r will weigh less than one adult passenger. So it’s a matter of how much your need the extra range or peace of mind knowing you’ve got some reserve power. Having an internal charge connector removes the potential for vandalism. There are many different methods people are using to top their EVs battery. it’s worth looking at some of the alternatives.
It doesn't work like that. It can't be permanently installed in a car. In Poland, see how they do it. Powerbank on 500 Wh/kg cells, which gives 7.4 KwH or + 50 km in 8 minutes. Powerbank EVCANISTER weight 8 kg. Additionally, a 230V plug if you forget to connect the powerbank to the cigarette lighter socket in the car.
half the boot is gone is so big, how you use it? to charge connect it outside and be back in 3 hours, you might not see it again. If you stay there to guard it is fine.. Maybe a charging port that is inside the boot as well might be a great add, but is this doable.
Are any of these portable chargers a true and viable option (main source for charging) for condo/apartment dwellers; meaning is there any drawbacks, incapabilities, etc to these portable chargers? {Putting the worries of theft/vandalism aside.} Thanks
If the harness is modified the slightest bit the car manufacturers start making excuses about warranties even the auto dealers will change tune one the sale is made including lying about pricing the simplest of modifications
Huh? Many level 2 home chargers are only $500. Install may costs by an electrician of $1000 on the higher side. A cheaper way is to use the 220v electric dryer outlet with a portable EV level 2 charger (about ($150). You may need a 220v extension cord $50-$75 to go with it. Definitely faster charging with 220v than your 110v outlet.
@weaesq You are telling a tech person who has a son who is an electrical engineer, how much a charger costs. On top of that, I have a background in economics. Oh, one more thing. I just got a special deal on a 220 (240) charger. It was only $1300!!!
@@johncipolletti5611 I am glad your son is an electrical engineer. I am as well. We need more now than ever with all the new electrical technology being introduced. You chould check your post - it says $15K for a home charger.
How are they good for the environment? Have you seen how lithium is mined and processed to produce batteries? And the coal used to make the electricity?
How many kWh energy are in this charger? I didn't hear those numbers here, but they're critical specs. How many miles of range can you get from this? I'd say almost nothing. It takes about 1kWh to drive my Tesla about 4 miles. So if your EV dies under 5-10mi from a charger, this might be better than towing. Then again, you can likely prevent such a problem by driving slower if you're getting low.
Just completed the break-in period and so far the unit is operating perfectly ruclips.net/user/postUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y . I was amazed by just how quiet this little guy is. I kept having to walk down the driveway to the generator to make sure it was still running. In fact, the most annoying noise coming from the set-up is a high-pitched chirping coming from the pressure regulator on the propane line. I suppose it's possible my other propane-powered generator's pressure regulator is making the same noise, but the generator itself is so loud I've never noticed it. Build quality so far is excellent. My only nit is the service panel is a little tricky to remove. I feel like I might break off one of the plastic tabs when bending it back. I probably just need to work out the technique, so will not hold it against Champion.Next week I intend to fully load the unit to charge a large battery pack and will update this review if there's any problem (3000W continuous load vs a rated 3100W capacity while using propane). Absent any trouble there, I'm 100% pleased with this purchase.
Wait! If it can charge your electric car, I would recommend designing it to use it directly and plug it in to drive your electric car instead of wasting time waiting for it to charge your car. Right? 😅
home Chargers they never tell you anything about the ones that have a on and off switch to power them down when you're not using them you see them in public places but the charger companies never tell you anything about the detail of how you can turn them off
In all my years of driving ICE vehicles I have never run out of fuel or needed to carry fuel on board in a jerry can and if I did it would of been still cheaper than these devices, this maybe your future but certainly won't be mine by choice.
These could work well if they can get the price down & increase the drive-time from charges, especially if they make them tamper-proof as best as you can with tradional lock & key, you could leave them in your car then whilst it charges. They might have to work with manufacturers designs to sort that but, it can't be that difficult. If they make electric pumps cash-in-hand at an appropriate price also electric cars would soon get very popular. = Bye bye smelly petrol vehicles.
@@FastLiB I am content with minimal miles. I could get by with a solar-powered machine just fine. It's the crapitalist system selling long-range, expensive rubbish from rich idiots that is an issue there. As long as you can pay cash in hand (to charge up) or get 1 hour drive time minimum approx from a battery, I'd switch to electric (if the vehicles were sold cheap enough). If the vehicle was cheap, the battery can be expensive. Why do you ask?
@@DailyAutomotive I wrote that in jest, however in saying that, I have seen video of such a set up in an area where recharging was an issue. It shows the hypocrisy of EV's.
230V plug + 12V/24V from the cigarette lighter socket in the car. That's what they do in Poland. They started at the same time and the Poles held back and waited for better batteries. They use the best in the world currently with a density of 500 Wh/kg.
The narrator appears to not use the correct capacity rating term for these chargers. Kilowatt hours is the usual term to use for the amount of store electrical energy.
How are these portable chargers even a thing? 20-40 miles range is like carrying a gallon gas can in the trunk of an ICE car, useful if you're not paying attention to your state of charge and aren't far from a car charger.
Not only that but if the thing used 18650s it would weigh around 130lbs. That guy in the video was clearly using a dummy product as there’s no way it would be that light and provide the range they claimed.
@@JessSkubiBut we already *have* sped it up. The non-battery items in this video are for low-speed, "level 2" charging, useful for overnight or "destination" charging. When you're on a road trip, current high-power chargers go as high as 350kW. At that rate (if your car can handle it) you'd recover 20 miles of range in 53 seconds. (Assuming efficiency of 250 Wh/mi.) It's true that your "last miles" won't go as fast -- that's why, when on road trips, EV owners don't charge much more than they need to safely get to the next charger. It's true, though, that on a long trip --- especially if you never use the bathroom -- you'll spend more time charging than you would at a gas station, but many, many EV owners find it's not a deal-breaker. As for home use, where 80-90% of most charging is done, one youtuber says "It takes
Just rented a volve xc60 b5 on a business trip filled and empty tank for $38 It was showing I have 730 range but in reality it gave me 662 miles of range all electric cars are still 3-5 years away from the gas cars range wise plus there's a gas station every 5 miles & your tank is full in 2 to 3 minutes
So that is additional cost for having a EV car. Wow!! How can that be economical if out of pocket costs (including expensive battery replacements and annual insurance) are piling up??
I own a Tesla but live in a condo too far away from my parking lot. I would love to roll out a charger and get 100 miles for the night but these chargers will only give me 10-20 miles and probably cost over 2k. Not worth it until they provide more and come down in price.
Go on - you are a rich guy if you could afford to buy a Tesla. So your parking lot is too far from your Condo - but you knew that before you brought the Tesla - right? You are also right - paying over $2000 for 10 - 20 miles - and lugging it to the EV every trip - what a load of hassle. Get an ICE - just fill up and go. How nice does that sound!
I am in the process of buying a new car, but gasoline for me. The infrastructure is far from complete between the drain on the power grid, and the availability of quick charge stations. There is no way I want to spend an hour, just to get an additional 20-miles. Maybe another 10-years is needed.
It's usually 20 mins to get a lot more than 20 miles. Besides, how often will you need to use this? You leave your house with a full charge everyday. Do you often travel more than 250 miles a day without a need to stop for 20 minutes?
Electric cars in cities makes sense but in Australia where quite often i have to drive 800 to 1000k in a day it just Won't work especially when you are on a tight schedule and don't have hours to waste sitting around watching your car charge when you should be driving. People get caught up in the whole idea that they will charge their Electric vehicles at home for nothing using excess solar but don't seem to understand that the only way to do that is leave the car at home during the day . Add to that extreme depreciation high insurance cost excessive tyre wear due to weight ,battery degradation and the amount of them that just spontaneously combust and then cant be put out i think i will just stick with my Internal combustion engine as unlike Electric vehicles the combustion stays on the inside where it should be .
Since you quite often drive 800 to 1000km a day, an EV in 2023 might not be the best option for you. At my age, though, "km per bladder" is more important than km per charge, and the extra time spent on my road trip charging is not that annoying. I've had minimal battery degradation, and there's a lot of data showing my case is not unusual. Battery fires are quite rare (but can be unfortunately dramatic when they *do* occur) and petrol cars ignite vastly more often on a per-vehicle comparison. I work during the day and charge at off-peak rates at night -- maybe someday after I retire I can get solar. A number of studies show less emissions from EV's, even when charged from grids with a substantial fossil fuel component -- the efficiency of energy production is just hugely greater at a power plant vs a car's engine -- and the grid is getting cleaner as time goes by.
For those that have high distance drives on a regular basis a PHEV would make more sense sure. What your missing in your near tirade is a few things. First solar is stored in stationary batteries (PowerWall and the like), then transferred to the EV at night. This is how off grid solar works. OR there is grid tied, where the solar is sold to the grid during the day, and the car and home run/charge from the grid at night. So in both cases at night charging from solar is no problem. No leaving the car at home during the day. As for hours waiting around for the car to charge, ya no... You start the drive with a full battery, a 1000km drive would require maybe two stops of 15 min each. I have a PHEV because I did not want to have this issue, been driving it for nearly a year. Now that I know what I know from direct experience, I wish I had not bothered and just went BEV. My drives of over 300km in one shot are so few and far between that a few 15 min charges here and there would be a minimal burden. Maybe once every second month. I spend near that much time at gas stations. The only place I have issue with BEV is there are not enough charging stations being built quick enough. Now that all the major makers have signed on to Tesla charger standards, my next car will be ICE free!! Canada here btw. Not a stranger to distance drives.
@@justsumdad3185 Sorry but full electric vehicles will never work in this country as we have way to many remote regions and roads that rattle the teeth out of your head . As I stated before round the city they have merit but for anything remote or distance they just don't stack up . I know personally 4 people that have gone the EV way and 3 of them have now purchased a ICE vehicle as well as they have worked out their limitations , around town they drive electric but out on the highway they take the ICE . BTW about the solar I in fact have solar and lithium storage and grid tied and the fact is if I was to want to charge a vehicle off my storage at night I would need an astronomical amount of storage way more than the 20kwh l have and that wouldn't make economic sense
About the only accurate thing he said was not appropriate for 1,000 km, that sounds like a eat sleep drive life. Driving 8 hours at high speed? Eating on the road?
@@rp9674 DIDO work drive in drive out and of course to a tight schedule , try brisbane to Normanton straight through, brisbane to Cooktown, brisbane to Cairns to name a few . Not everyone has the luxury of doddering along to get somewhere , to keep the wheels of big industry turning some people have to do the dirty work.
Way too little information on each of these solutions. Like cost. Example, the KEMPOWER Mobile Charger T500 2 x 20kW DC Charger costs $28,000.00 US with shipping. Not that practical for something that can get stolen if left unattended and still will not charge your vehicle more than 50% at a time. Also, some of the solutions presented here (level 2 ones) are really not portable because they require a 40 amp plug. Unless you live near a campground like a KOA Camp and are willing to pay for an overnight camping space with power hookups, they are not really portable outside your home garage. Must Have! ? I don't think so since most EV's come with a portable charger already. If you buy another one it's typically for the extra features that did not come with the factory provided one. EcoFlow Pro? $2.5K will get you 25-30 miles of charging power before it goes dead and has to be recharged back at home. Using it to fully charge your car could take a few days, and you need an additional adapter and a grounding dongle purchased separately.
If you are going to be an fool and charge your EV inside your garage, and even worse if inside your garage is actually inside your house, then be less of a fool and install a smoke alarm over your car that is interconnected to the other smoke alarms in your house. That way, when the battery goes into thermal runaway whilst charging - and don't delude yourself that "that will never happen to me" - at least you will be woken up so you dont burn to death in your sleep. And despite what Musk says, it happens to LFP batteries, too.
I like that black guy, he's acting like this will only take a couple of minutes to charge his car . But in fact he should go find a bar and get drunk, cause it's going to take a good 6 hours to get his car going again.
Meanwehile, today in London yet another electric bus burst into flames for no good reason. These electric buses have been a total disaster all around the world.
You can to charge portable battery in your house while you are outside with your car and you haven’t possibility of install a wall box in your parking cell
Great. You have just emptied your bank account for an EV and now you have to spend a shit load of money to get you another 20 miles. Just buy an ICE vehicle and then you don't have to carry spare fuel everywhere you go.
You don't. This is not practical for 99% of users and not really worth the cost. If you don't normally run out of gas there's a good chance you're smart enough to not run out of battery too. 99% of EV owners leave their house with full charge. If traveling there's usually plenty of options available. These chargers do not serve much purpose for majority of users other than some piece of mind. I would rather see EV's update their software to enable an emergency limp mode when the battery drops before a certain amount. Cut power to everything except the essentials and to all wheels except for 1. Limit speed to extend the range enough to get to the nearest charging station.
@@shannoncole6425 And why would anyone listen to someone who writes "Piece of mind" Instead of "Peace of mind"? I guess you only use a piece of your mind. EV charging stations are fewer and further apart than ICE refueling stations and many ICE vehicles can travel 800kl or more on one tank.
@@shannoncole6425 "Typo"? Okay, you keep telling yourself that. However I did address the problem of running out of power with an EV. Perhaps you missed that part.
Never charge an EV with one of these high frequency inverters. Because there is no galvanic isolation between its high voltage, high amperage DC current source and its AC output, all it would take is for the AC monitoring circuitry to fail and a MOSFET to short to ground and you can not only damage your EVs onboard charger, you can also set your EV's on board charger on fire and void your EV's warranty.
what a load of cobblers " oh running low on juice !" pulls into the servo , 10 minutes later pulls out with a full tank plus a 5 liter container full that when used , within 2 minutes gives you an extra 50 kms ! cost ? 5 ltr container $10 , fuel , $8 , weight 5 kg ,,,,,,,,,,, portable ev charger ? $2,200 to $3800 !!!! weight 22kg to 38 kg , ! reckon the little lady will be heaving one of these around ?, not likely !oh yeah these are a great idea !!!
Sounds more like packing extra batteries , no different than carrying replacement batteries for your flashlight or cell phone. Lets keep the BS to a minimum
I am not sure if you are angry or accepting the facts. When I travel to distant lands that I know I may have difficulty reaching a gas station in time due to the time of day I am travelling or the season. I carry a can of gas for my vehicle. I have done this for years and used it from time to time. So if I had a battery powered car that I had concerns with I would take an Oopsie battery with me just in case. When buying I would just ensure I could connect it and use the power immediately vs BSing around with charging the main battery@@DailyAutomotive. One can make solutions or little red hen it.
Ha Ha Ha ..........................This IS a joke ......YEH ? If its not bad enough having these fireballs crowding a small car park.......we are are NOW expected to see ev charging ANYWHERE !!!!!! I dont want one parking next to my MB ......then catching fire......................."There maybe trouble ahead"......As the song goes.
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Need wireless charging like one found for cellphones, park in a prepaid designated spot and charge without the hassle of cables.
Love the idea ❤
Hopefully we'll get to see them soon. But smartphones have physical contact with the wireless charger. Doing the same for cars will be a bit difficult.
I take issue with the headline (and not just the lack of "s" on "Station".) The suitcase-sized batteries are just about *last* on any EV driver's list of "must haves." I can imagine two niche cases though. A roadside assistance service might drop off one of these for the quite rare cases when EV drivers run completely out of juice. The portable charger need only get the vehicle to the nearest regular charger -- even a level 2 one -- and the cars give so many warnings before you run out that the driver was likely "almost there" anyway. (And of course, there would be a large fee if the portable isn't returned.) The second might be a very determined apartment-dwelling owner with modest daily needs whose landlord or municipality hasn't yet prepared for the EV transition -- or has chargers in the works, but not quite yet installed. So much the better if the owner can also use the suitcase battery for emergency backup household power. Not sure how safe this would be against theft and vandalism, though.
You have a point!
I do live in an apartment where the owners have voted against installing power outlets in the underground parking. Charging stations are a bit scarce in my area even though EVs are increasing in numbers rapidly. Therefore the few existing charge stations are very competitive and can sometimes be hours before one is available.
I borrowed my mother's Bolt EV to visit one of my friends last week and although the car may start complaining about range quite a while before shutting down, that is of very little consolation on a rural highway where exits are 20-30km in-between, the car itself quits reporting range estimates at 20km left, goes into power-limited mode somewhere around the 10km remaining mark and won't tell you the true shut-off SoC to let you know how close to screwed you really are. When I started on my return trip, I had a charging stop planned 105km in with ~140km of range left. Due to moderate rain and elevation, my ~30km margin melted down to 0 with 25km left until the charger. At that point, it became a bet between being able to find a charger at the next exit staying on course for the planned charging stop. I decided to continue instead of making a who-knows-how-long rural charger hunting detour. On the way up the overpass to the charger, it almost felt like the car was about to quit on me.
I understand why some EV drivers would like to have 3kW of spare battery they can stuff in the trunk for road trips in case their car's range estimation has a significant change of opinion along the way. I'll have to increase my trip margin by at least 10% next time I borrow the Bolt.
Nice video about portable EV charger.
Glad you liked it
Well this should really confuse those that watch. You are confusing devices here - apples and oranges. The portable wall chargers/adapters are different from the two battery chargers. The third battery charger with a Lithium Phosphate battery does not really have enough wattage to charge a car. I don't think it has a cord that connects to a car either. You would need to use its 220 outlet with your cars wall charger/adapter to make it work at all.
some of these charger for emergency situation.
@@DailyAutomotive no, the last one you showed does not have a battery of any kind. It is something completely different. Please take the video down, cut that out and repost.
@weaesq Agree that there is a fundamental difference between a stand-alone EVSE that's plugged into a wall outlet and something that integrates battery storage for portability, and this video doesn't make that distinction clear. But to say that a lithium iron phosphate (LFP) battery doesn't have enough wattage to charge an EV is simply incorrect.
Note that electric utilities now regularly use shipping containers full of LFP cells for grid backup at their large scale renewable energy (solar and wind) facilities. An individual LFP cell is nominally rated at 3.2V, while ternary chemistry cells (ie: containing combinations of nickel, manganese and/or cobalt) have cell voltages in the 3.7V range. So, it can be accurately said that LFP is less energy dense on the cell level when compared to other lithium ion chemistries.
Want more voltage form any cell chemistry? Wire the cells in series. Want more current draw potential (amperage) at any given voltage? Wire your series strings of cells in parallel. Voltage times Amps, by the way, is Watts.
Lots of reason why LFP cell chemistry is being used more often these days. Much of it comes down to durability. It can be cycled down to near zero and back up to brimming full without damage, and has the ability to cycle like this more than other cell chemistries without cell capacity degradation. It's also much safer in regards to the possibility of thermal runaway (ie: fire.)
The video also incorrectly states that LFP is a "much newer" chemistry when, in fact, it was among the very first commercially-available lithium-based one developed back in the 1990s. Lot's of reasons why it's only now gaining popularity, but most of that comes down to patents, lawyers and international manufacturing agreements. The short story there is that LFP is now more available internationally than it was just a few years ago and we'll be seeing a lot more of it in the coming years, including inside the traction batteries packs of our electric vehicles.
I've owned a small EV (Mitsubishi i-MiEV) for the past 8 years that I use for city driving and charge it exclusively from the 120V outlet located near my front porch. J1772 protocol specifies current flow down to 6A (720W @ 120V) and I have an aftermarket EVSE that allows for this "electron-sipping" setting. None of this, of course, would satisfy a use case where the quickest possible charging speeds and the longest nonstop range are requirement.
I plan to utilize a portable LFP power station (battery capacity approximately half of the Ecoflow one shown in the video) with the ability to simultaneous bring in solar PV feed for some "just for fun" 6A off-grid EV charging experiments. The only problem I envision is that the inverters on these commercial LFP battery boxes typically have a floating ground and that an EVSE plugged into them typically won't operate ungrounded. I'll probably have to concoct a cheater plug of some sort, which will allow for a safe yet-to-be-determined separate grounding path.
@@benjaminnead8557 The utilities are using buildings full of batteries to get the power they need from LFP batteries. Nothing about the chemistry - it is probably safer than lithium ion. But that unit is too small to hold a large LFP battery for the power needed to significantly charge an EV car battery - maybe 5 miles for emergency. Better to get a plug in hybrid that has gas backup. Or just get a AAA card and have them tow your battery EV when needed to the charge station. If you are worried about floating ground, buy a copper ground rod and hammer it into earth ground and run a ground wire from it to the charger and attach it somehow (case?) to ground the charger/EV car.
@@weaesq Yes, maybe 5 miles of trickle charging with just the battery in the small power station I've detailed. But it's also able to bring in about 800W of solar simultaneously while discharging. So, that's pretty much an equilibrium for about 6 hours on a sunny day. 3 miles of extra range per hour at 6A/720W is what I'm expecting. 18 miles on such a day would be fine in my book.
The power station will serve many day-to-day purposes. It's primary mission is not so much for roadside emergency EV charging. Mostly, I'll bring it along to run efficient electric cooking devices I take on outdoors day trips. But portable EV solar charging is also an interesting thing to show at places such as the science fairs I like to attend.
"Significant" is a relative term. But, to clarify, your original observation that that LFP "doesn't really have enough wattage to charge a car" would be proven incorrect by such an experiment. Whether I or anyone else would want to rely on this exclusively every day is another matter.
As for proper grounding: yes, the idea you've outlined is along the lines of what I've been thinking.
So, where can you get the Chempower T-series portable EV charger?
You can check out their official website to order.
@@DailyAutomotive The Chempower is not a battery, its just a portable which requires a three phase connection which most residential do not offer.
Amazing, but all depends on its cost, efficiency and durability.
right!
Im OK thanks got a charger at home and when travelling an extention cable with 240v adaptor, charge overnight where we are staying where there is a power point to charge but thanks handy to know
That's amazing.
A better idea is for cars to carry portable petrol or diesel generators in the boot. Machine Mart sell a good selection
Small engines are hugely polluting, undoes so much of the good an EV achieves
Best Ides so far. But why not buy an ICE and go the whole hog.
Any generator that was small enough to fit in the boot, would take 2 days to charge a typical EV, because it couldn't supply sufficient current. You'd need a generator the size of a shed.
None of these are available on Amazon. There’s no direct link to the brands website ?
you will find all the product links in the description.
@@DailyAutomotive again, the LINKS do not link to the actual device.
Right now fellas
All we have is the ecoflow pro
It works but slower
Yeah, that works as well.
What makes the ecoflow attractive?
well i pull a travel trailer with my ev6 kia
and i boon dock
i have 1k watt solar pannels with the ecoflow delta max pro
i can charge my car to full an 10 hrs just sitting in the middle of no where
as long as i got sun
i just put it in the trunk and no worries
i use it as a back up just in case no charging stations around or to pact
@@aliceinchainz3003 Thanks for the reply. Would you be willing to pay a premium if your battery pack offered a 20kW charging power? I'm doing research on this, I appreciate your feedback.
Amazing
Nissan E Power vehicles are a viable option
Maybe!
Problem with these portable EV Charging stations, people are jerks. There will be vandalism and people will steal the unit. Better to have the unit locked inside the EV car and just a inside port to plug to the EV to charge.
You have a point.
Yeah, so why not have an emergency/reserve battery in the car itself.
Just adding more weight to an already very heavy vehicle - or did I miss the whole point of it all?
@@tonysaberwal8895As an option, the ability to extend the EVs range easily is a good idea. A portable charge r will weigh less than one adult passenger. So it’s a matter of how much your need the extra range or peace of mind knowing you’ve got some reserve power. Having an internal charge connector removes the potential for vandalism. There are many different methods people are using to top their EVs battery. it’s worth looking at some of the alternatives.
It doesn't work like that. It can't be permanently installed in a car. In Poland, see how they do it. Powerbank on 500 Wh/kg cells, which gives 7.4 KwH or + 50 km in 8 minutes. Powerbank EVCANISTER weight 8 kg. Additionally, a 230V plug if you forget to connect the powerbank to the cigarette lighter socket in the car.
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Are these units grounded?
Nope!
Emotionally grounded
Which one weight less ?
I want this multiples charger haw can find
You can order them online.
half the boot is gone is so big, how you use it? to charge connect it outside and be back in 3 hours, you might not see it again. If you stay there to guard it is fine.. Maybe a charging port that is inside the boot as well might be a great add, but is this doable.
Are any of these portable chargers a true and viable option (main source for charging) for condo/apartment dwellers; meaning is there any drawbacks, incapabilities, etc to these portable chargers? {Putting the worries of theft/vandalism aside.} Thanks
Surely what is needed is a charge point inside the boot/trunk of the car not outside!
You've made a good point.
They might as well add provision to drive while charging, on off switch in the car so you can enable it while driving
If the harness is modified the slightest bit the car manufacturers start making excuses about warranties even the auto dealers will change tune one the sale is made including lying about pricing the simplest of modifications
"they are good for the environment"
They need to put the price on each charger, so we can determine which one we can afford
Please check out the links in the description box.
The links are not direct links and dont show the prices@@DailyAutomotive
@@JobGreguse google haha
Are all these chargers compatible with all makes of cars Kia Tesla’s etc
Yes!
Nice 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Got an idea, how bout a generator
Thanks for sharing!
A generator with enough kw to charge a car is at minimum 23 grand
Yeah if you got to worry about having gas in back of your car you could get a generac IQ2000
yes yiu can
@@kentrader2489I mean, for emergencies it would work fine to get you to the next charging station
Hey, you could end up being charged for a home charger up to $15,000!!!! My Chevy Bolt charges on a normal 110 outlet!
That's amazing!
Huh? Many level 2 home chargers are only $500. Install may costs by an electrician of $1000 on the higher side. A cheaper way is to use the 220v electric dryer outlet with a portable EV level 2 charger (about ($150). You may need a 220v extension cord $50-$75 to go with it. Definitely faster charging with 220v than your 110v outlet.
@weaesq You are telling a tech person who has a son who is an electrical engineer, how much a charger costs. On top of that, I have a background in economics. Oh, one more thing. I just got a special deal on a 220 (240) charger. It was only $1300!!!
@@johncipolletti5611 I am glad your son is an electrical engineer. I am as well. We need more now than ever with all the new electrical technology being introduced. You chould check your post - it says $15K for a home charger.
@weaesq Go check the level 3 charger costs. I did make a mistake. They showed me one for $175,000!
I still say you could get a cheep one for $15,000!
what are the prices? And where can you buy them?
Check the link in the description.
People will be stealing them easily
Don't leave it it alone.
How are they good for the environment? Have you seen how lithium is mined and processed to produce batteries? And the coal used to make the electricity?
Good thing had its bad side.
How many kWh energy are in this charger? I didn't hear those numbers here, but they're critical specs. How many miles of range can you get from this? I'd say almost nothing. It takes about 1kWh to drive my Tesla about 4 miles. So if your EV dies under 5-10mi from a charger, this might be better than towing. Then again, you can likely prevent such a problem by driving slower if you're getting low.
Nice video 📹 👍
Thanks for the visit
Please, I’m trying to understand all these. When the portable charging station runs out of power eventually, how do you repower/refill it ?
You just plug it in electricity socket like any other apliance.
Alternatively you can use even travel solar panels if you have them in your possesion.
@@rannyczech alright. Thank you
You can charge them through AC wall outlets.
The BMW Coupe is nice 🎉
EV was unexpected
Luxury v speed 🚅🚄
It is!
hi my name is wasu iam live in Ethiopia Please i need 10 pcs electric charging station ,can you tell me the prics
Try contacting the manufacturers around your region.
You should make a more compact portable box if you charge it. That's wireless
We didn't make them, but thanks for the suggestion.
Just completed the break-in period and so far the unit is operating perfectly ruclips.net/user/postUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y . I was amazed by just how quiet this little guy is. I kept having to walk down the driveway to the generator to make sure it was still running. In fact, the most annoying noise coming from the set-up is a high-pitched chirping coming from the pressure regulator on the propane line. I suppose it's possible my other propane-powered generator's pressure regulator is making the same noise, but the generator itself is so loud I've never noticed it. Build quality so far is excellent. My only nit is the service panel is a little tricky to remove. I feel like I might break off one of the plastic tabs when bending it back. I probably just need to work out the technique, so will not hold it against Champion.Next week I intend to fully load the unit to charge a large battery pack and will update this review if there's any problem (3000W continuous load vs a rated 3100W capacity while using propane). Absent any trouble there, I'm 100% pleased with this purchase.
Yes indeed!
Wait! If it can charge your electric car, I would recommend designing it to use it directly and plug it in to drive your electric car instead of wasting time waiting for it to charge your car. Right? 😅
Hahaha! Good point, but EVs don't work that way.
if you dont run out of gas,, you wont run out of battery
Understandable.
Well that's the idea here with the battery charger too so
where to buy sparkcharge?
You can checkout their official website for purchasing!
Need to sell that to gas stations, and auto clubs
Great!
home Chargers they never tell you anything about the ones that have a on and off switch to power them down when you're not using them you see them in public places but the charger companies never tell you anything about the detail of how you can turn them off
In all my years of driving ICE vehicles I have never run out of fuel or needed to carry fuel on board in a jerry can and if I did it would of been still cheaper than these devices, this maybe your future but certainly won't be mine by choice.
Well, understadable, but these are just for any unforseen emergencies.
If we put inside mobile an alternator motor generator is cool
maybe
is this available in india
Nah
Yes available third one
These could work well if they can get the price down & increase the drive-time from charges, especially if they make them tamper-proof as best as you can with tradional lock & key, you could leave them in your car then whilst it charges. They might have to work with manufacturers designs to sort that but, it can't be that difficult.
If they make electric pumps cash-in-hand at an appropriate price also electric cars would soon get very popular. = Bye bye smelly petrol vehicles.
Thanks for sharing your thought with us.
How much would you pay for such a system and how many miles would make you happy?
@@FastLiB I am content with minimal miles. I could get by with a solar-powered machine just fine. It's the crapitalist system selling long-range, expensive rubbish from rich idiots that is an issue there. As long as you can pay cash in hand (to charge up) or get 1 hour drive time minimum approx from a battery, I'd switch to electric (if the vehicles were sold cheap enough). If the vehicle was cheap, the battery can be expensive. Why do you ask?
EcoFlow DELTA Pro Portable Power Station
Sale price
USD $2,499.00
Thanks for sharing!
7.2KW , about 20/25 miles then . How much are they
Depends. Please check the links in the description for updated price.
Why not fit each EV with a tow bar then the owners can get a trailer so they can tow around a genset?
No clue. Gotta ask the manufacturers.
@@DailyAutomotive I wrote that in jest, however in saying that, I have seen video of such a set up in an area where recharging was an issue.
It shows the hypocrisy of EV's.
When gas cars were first introduced, they had horses around to tow them when they needed it.
@@weaesq Yes, some of those early cars were also steam powered or electric, go figure.
Yoshimo solid state?
yes!
Hows it charged in a house? Usb? Solar panel? A blunt?
you have just plug it in to your home standard socket to chard=g it.
230V plug + 12V/24V from the cigarette lighter socket in the car. That's what they do in Poland. They started at the same time and the Poles held back and waited for better batteries. They use the best in the world currently with a density of 500 Wh/kg.
Links do not work!
Sorry for the inconvenience. We'll update them ASAP.
The narrator appears to not use the correct capacity rating term for these chargers. Kilowatt hours is the usual term to use for the amount of store electrical energy.
Sorry for the mistakes. We stand corrected.
@@DailyAutomotive Thank you for replying. The topic is an interesting one, please do more like this.
Links?
In the description.
So I should get a gas generator to charge my car ? Hahaha makes perfect sense here in Canada eh ?!! Hahaha
hahahahaha!
Zipcharge went out of business before releasing their product.
Of course, it looks like the most awesome one
How are these portable chargers even a thing? 20-40 miles range is like carrying a gallon gas can in the trunk of an ICE car, useful if you're not paying attention to your state of charge and aren't far from a car charger.
Not only that but if the thing used 18650s it would weigh around 130lbs. That guy in the video was clearly using a dummy product as there’s no way it would be that light and provide the range they claimed.
Mannnn for 20 to 40 miles that should only take 1 minute to charge. They are trippin. We really gotta speed up EV conversion.
@@JessSkubiBut we already *have* sped it up. The non-battery items in this video are for low-speed, "level 2" charging, useful for overnight or "destination" charging. When you're on a road trip, current high-power chargers go as high as 350kW. At that rate (if your car can handle it) you'd recover 20 miles of range in 53 seconds. (Assuming efficiency of 250 Wh/mi.) It's true that your "last miles" won't go as fast -- that's why, when on road trips, EV owners don't charge much more than they need to safely get to the next charger. It's true, though, that on a long trip --- especially if you never use the bathroom -- you'll spend more time charging than you would at a gas station, but many, many EV owners find it's not a deal-breaker. As for home use, where 80-90% of most charging is done, one youtuber says "It takes
Just rented a volve xc60 b5 on a business trip filled and empty tank for $38 It was showing I have 730 range but in reality it gave me 662 miles of range all electric cars are still 3-5 years away from the gas cars range wise plus there's a gas station every 5 miles & your tank is full in 2 to 3 minutes
Well at least charging your car costs nothing anywhere while filling it with gas costs a lot more
So the power bank has arrived
right!
When you come back will be gone with the wind ! Very durable for homeless tents in Los Angeles
Thanks for sharing!
So that is additional cost for having a EV car. Wow!! How can that be economical if out of pocket costs (including expensive battery replacements and annual insurance) are piling up??
Sorry if you got disappointed because you can't get these for free.
@@DailyAutomotive We are not talking about being free, it is about being more expensive. What a klutz!!
You forgot EV wiper fluid and EV air fresheners who can afford that!
I own a Tesla but live in a condo too far away from my parking lot. I would love to roll out a charger and get 100 miles for the night but these chargers will only give me 10-20 miles and probably cost over 2k. Not worth it until they provide more and come down in price.
Go on - you are a rich guy if you could afford to buy a Tesla. So your parking lot is too far from your Condo - but you knew that before you brought the Tesla - right? You are also right - paying over $2000 for 10 - 20 miles - and lugging it to the EV every trip - what a load of hassle. Get an ICE - just fill up and go. How nice does that sound!
The main purpose of this that people are mossing os for people who rent who are mostly just going to work down the street.
Bringing a 12 KW gas powered generator is the best option.
Understandable, but the emission kinda defies the purpose of an EV.
Lithium mining already hurts yhe nauture who cares? If you really love the earth mercedes w123 with mechanical diesel is the way to go.
Still need oil run turbines at electrical grid stations to produce the electricity that charges yuor elct Gen that charges yuor elcet toy car
Makes sense I guess.
I am in the process of buying a new car, but gasoline for me.
The infrastructure is far from complete between the drain on the power grid, and the availability of quick charge stations. There is no way I want to spend an hour, just to get an additional 20-miles. Maybe another 10-years is needed.
you can use these charger for emergency situation when every miles count.
You charge the car at your house overnight 99% of the time.
It's usually 20 mins to get a lot more than 20 miles. Besides, how often will you need to use this? You leave your house with a full charge everyday. Do you often travel more than 250 miles a day without a need to stop for 20 minutes?
Should watch a video on how people actually use EVs, some of us rarely use public charging, Vehicles charged in your driveway while you sleep.
Electric cars in cities makes sense but in Australia where quite often i have to drive 800 to 1000k in a day it just Won't work especially when you are on a tight schedule and don't have hours to waste sitting around watching your car charge when you should be driving. People get caught up in the whole idea that they will charge their Electric vehicles at home for nothing using excess solar but don't seem to understand that the only way to do that is leave the car at home during the day . Add to that extreme depreciation high insurance cost excessive tyre wear due to weight ,battery degradation and the amount of them that just spontaneously combust and then cant be put out i think i will just stick with my Internal combustion engine as unlike Electric vehicles the combustion stays on the inside where it should be .
Since you quite often drive 800 to 1000km a day, an EV in 2023 might not be the best option for you. At my age, though, "km per bladder" is more important than km per charge, and the extra time spent on my road trip charging is not that annoying. I've had minimal battery degradation, and there's a lot of data showing my case is not unusual. Battery fires are quite rare (but can be unfortunately dramatic when they *do* occur) and petrol cars ignite vastly more often on a per-vehicle comparison. I work during the day and charge at off-peak rates at night -- maybe someday after I retire I can get solar. A number of studies show less emissions from EV's, even when charged from grids with a substantial fossil fuel component -- the efficiency of energy production is just hugely greater at a power plant vs a car's engine -- and the grid is getting cleaner as time goes by.
For those that have high distance drives on a regular basis a PHEV would make more sense sure. What your missing in your near tirade is a few things. First solar is stored in stationary batteries (PowerWall and the like), then transferred to the EV at night. This is how off grid solar works. OR there is grid tied, where the solar is sold to the grid during the day, and the car and home run/charge from the grid at night. So in both cases at night charging from solar is no problem. No leaving the car at home during the day. As for hours waiting around for the car to charge, ya no... You start the drive with a full battery, a 1000km drive would require maybe two stops of 15 min each. I have a PHEV because I did not want to have this issue, been driving it for nearly a year. Now that I know what I know from direct experience, I wish I had not bothered and just went BEV. My drives of over 300km in one shot are so few and far between that a few 15 min charges here and there would be a minimal burden. Maybe once every second month. I spend near that much time at gas stations. The only place I have issue with BEV is there are not enough charging stations being built quick enough. Now that all the major makers have signed on to Tesla charger standards, my next car will be ICE free!! Canada here btw. Not a stranger to distance drives.
@@justsumdad3185 Sorry but full electric vehicles will never work in this country as we have way to many remote regions and roads that rattle the teeth out of your head . As I stated before round the city they have merit but for anything remote or distance they just don't stack up . I know personally 4 people that have gone the EV way and 3 of them have now purchased a ICE vehicle as well as they have worked out their limitations , around town they drive electric but out on the highway they take the ICE . BTW about the solar I in fact have solar and lithium storage and grid tied and the fact is if I was to want to charge a vehicle off my storage at night I would need an astronomical amount of storage way more than the 20kwh l have and that wouldn't make economic sense
About the only accurate thing he said was not appropriate for 1,000 km, that sounds like a eat sleep drive life. Driving 8 hours at high speed? Eating on the road?
@@rp9674 DIDO work drive in drive out and of course to a tight schedule , try brisbane to Normanton straight through, brisbane to Cooktown, brisbane to Cairns to name a few . Not everyone has the luxury of doddering along to get somewhere , to keep the wheels of big industry turning some people have to do the dirty work.
This akin to carrying a 5 gallon can of fuel. Imo stupid and main reason why most won’t but Ev. Charge+ range ANXIETY.. next I imagine a TRAILER?
In a sense, yeah.
You might think that if you've never driven EVs
I need all 5 ?!?!?!?
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Whichever suits you!
People that own EVs have owned gas cars, so who are these haters preaching to?
You lose more range carrying it around than it delivers!
not really.
We just get stupider as time goes on this is ridiculous like a big power bank for your car with only a tiny charge range? WTF
They're for emergencies.
Way too little information on each of these solutions. Like cost. Example, the KEMPOWER Mobile Charger T500 2 x 20kW DC Charger costs $28,000.00 US with shipping. Not that practical for something that can get stolen if left unattended and still will not charge your vehicle more than 50% at a time. Also, some of the solutions presented here (level 2 ones) are really not portable because they require a 40 amp plug. Unless you live near a campground like a KOA Camp and are willing to pay for an overnight camping space with power hookups, they are not really portable outside your home garage. Must Have! ? I don't think so since most EV's come with a portable charger already. If you buy another one it's typically for the extra features that did not come with the factory provided one. EcoFlow Pro? $2.5K will get you 25-30 miles of charging power before it goes dead and has to be recharged back at home. Using it to fully charge your car could take a few days, and you need an additional adapter and a grounding dongle purchased separately.
Thanks a bunch for the suggestions. Noted.
If you are going to be an fool and charge your EV inside your garage, and even worse if inside your garage is actually inside your house, then be less of a fool and install a smoke alarm over your car that is interconnected to the other smoke alarms in your house. That way, when the battery goes into thermal runaway whilst charging - and don't delude yourself that "that will never happen to me" - at least you will be woken up so you dont burn to death in your sleep. And despite what Musk says, it happens to LFP batteries, too.
We see your point.
I like that black guy, he's acting like this will only take a couple of minutes to charge his car . But in fact he should go find a bar and get drunk, cause it's going to take a good 6 hours to get his car going again.
Nor really. It's not supposed to fully charge your car. It's supposed to give you that extra mile in case of any emergency.
There can only be 1
Absolutely! Which one suits you the best?
Zip is dead, Ken is more than needed. ECO, maybe. The others are EVSEs
Meanwehile, today in London yet another electric bus burst into flames for no good reason. These electric buses have been a total disaster all around the world.
That's really sad :(
Makes no sense - if you need more range buy a car with a larger battery or a hybrid. A small battery will take a not time to do minor bit of charging.
You can to charge portable battery in your house while you are outside with your car and you haven’t possibility of install a wall box in your parking cell
How about the prices?
Smh.
We do not mention price because the price varies from time to time, and region to region.
Just add it to the hod dang car and install it in the truck
Thanks for sharing!
Plugin hybrid from Tesla
I may mean Kempower T-series sorry.
Understandable.
They should change the name of this to “Stolen”
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now, that's a curious voice 🤨
Glad you think so!
Can I take zipcharge go in the pool with me?
you can take it, but you should aware of water going inside it.
Hey where did my charging station go somebody stole it
hahaha! Be cautious with that.
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I must NOT HAVE,
Sorry if you felt that way.
SO, HOW LONG DOES ONE OF THESE TAKE TO COMPLETELY CHARGE AN EV CAR! OH, IT CAN'T???
not too long, as they won't completely juice up your EV battery. They're more likely for emergencies.
OMG, THEY'RE GOING TO KILL US ALL IN OUR SLEEP !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Soon we wont have a choice
Maybe.
Great. You have just emptied your bank account for an EV and now you have to spend a shit load of money to get you another 20 miles. Just buy an ICE vehicle and then you don't have to carry spare fuel everywhere you go.
Maybe you have a point.
You don't. This is not practical for 99% of users and not really worth the cost. If you don't normally run out of gas there's a good chance you're smart enough to not run out of battery too. 99% of EV owners leave their house with full charge. If traveling there's usually plenty of options available. These chargers do not serve much purpose for majority of users other than some piece of mind. I would rather see EV's update their software to enable an emergency limp mode when the battery drops before a certain amount. Cut power to everything except the essentials and to all wheels except for 1. Limit speed to extend the range enough to get to the nearest charging station.
@@shannoncole6425 And why would anyone listen to someone who writes "Piece of mind" Instead of "Peace of mind"?
I guess you only use a piece of your mind.
EV charging stations are fewer and further apart than ICE refueling stations and many ICE vehicles can travel 800kl or more on one tank.
@@sidecarmisanthrope5927 wow, you found a typo. I guess that completely negates the point of the reply.
@@shannoncole6425 "Typo"? Okay, you keep telling yourself that. However I did address the problem of running out of power with an EV. Perhaps you missed that part.
Most of these aren’t even ready to market
That's a bummer. Hopefully we'll get to see them soon.
Just buy a regular gasoline generator. Fill it up and take it with your ev 😂.
The pollution from small engines is so high that it negates the positive impact of an EV.
Go further use gasoline generator...
great idea.
Never charge an EV with one of these high frequency inverters. Because there is no galvanic isolation between its high voltage, high amperage DC current source and its AC output, all it would take is for the AC monitoring circuitry to fail and a MOSFET to short to ground and you can not only damage your EVs onboard charger, you can also set your EV's on board charger on fire and void your EV's warranty.
Thanks for sharing.
what a load of cobblers " oh running low on juice !" pulls into the servo , 10 minutes later pulls out with a full tank plus a 5 liter container full that when used , within 2 minutes gives you an extra 50 kms ! cost ? 5 ltr container $10 , fuel , $8 , weight 5 kg ,,,,,,,,,,, portable ev charger ? $2,200 to $3800 !!!! weight 22kg to 38 kg , ! reckon the little lady will be heaving one of these around ?, not likely !oh yeah these are a great idea !!!
Hahahahaha
Sounds more like packing extra batteries , no different than carrying replacement batteries for your flashlight or cell phone. Lets keep the BS to a minimum
How else you're gonna charge your "EV" during emergencies? Adding up a wind turbine doesn't sound very appealing.
I am not sure if you are angry or accepting the facts. When I travel to distant lands that I know I may have difficulty reaching a gas station in time due to the time of day I am travelling or the season. I carry a can of gas for my vehicle. I have done this for years and used it from time to time. So if I had a battery powered car that I had concerns with I would take an Oopsie battery with me just in case. When buying I would just ensure I could connect it and use the power immediately vs BSing around with charging the main battery@@DailyAutomotive. One can make solutions or little red hen it.
You are JOKING.
What made you think so?
LOL these pieces of shit cost 3 times what I paid for my old banger -7 years ago!
Ah... Now, what can we say about that? We don't make or sell them.
Ha Ha Ha ..........................This IS a joke ......YEH ? If its not bad enough having these fireballs crowding a small car park.......we are are NOW expected to see ev charging ANYWHERE !!!!!!
I dont want one parking next to my MB ......then catching fire......................."There maybe trouble ahead"......As the song goes.
Nothing is perfect and without its negetive side. But that too is very rare case.
This EV thing is getting ridiculous now.
tbh, it depends on the consumer.
Ridiculously good