Forensic Psychology: The Real World of CSI

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  • Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024

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  • @bidensson4643
    @bidensson4643 5 лет назад +231

    The most reassuring part of your lecture for me was when you said, "to be honest, it never gets boring." That is one of the most important things for me, as a psych undergrad interested in forensic psychology. I too find criminal behavior particularly fascinating.

    • @josiemurray6767
      @josiemurray6767 2 года назад +1

      Don't like this guy my opinion but he's not for me. If he gives you the creeps usually a reason. He OK with you having a gun although might not be OK???? I'm no or is that just me ?

    • @husseymangtv
      @husseymangtv 2 года назад +1

      Same . I can work on this stuff all day

    • @tjpetrecca4907
      @tjpetrecca4907 2 года назад

      Hey man, i'm genuinely curious where did your psych undergrad lead you? I'm currently a sophomore in my 3rd semester at PSU University Park majoring in psychology and have a heavy interest in forensic psychology. Any guidance would be great, thanks.

    • @he_who_got_mcmad3003
      @he_who_got_mcmad3003 2 года назад

      hey, I doubt you're still active since you clearly graduated with flying colours and are working an amazing job, but I have a couple questions about psychology studies or criminology study and was wondering if you could answer a few of those

    • @Michelina22
      @Michelina22 Год назад +1

      It’s absolutely interesting, Criminal Psychology is what got me going forward with criminal Justice and criminal investigation as well, love it all. Forensics is new to me and I had no idea how much I’d love it ✝️

  • @peteronyangoonyoyo7552
    @peteronyangoonyoyo7552 8 лет назад +122

    I teach psychology of the court under the field of forensic psychology and I find this video very instructive and helpful. I thank you so much for this great contribution.

  • @rachmaninoffenthusiast5563
    @rachmaninoffenthusiast5563 5 лет назад +48

    Bless whoever added the subtitles

  • @danieljordan2285
    @danieljordan2285 7 лет назад +38

    I'm currently pursuing my graduate degree in forensic psychology. This video confirms my decision to also attain my doctorate. Enjoyed this presentation. Very informative.

  • @shananagans5
    @shananagans5 12 лет назад +17

    Wow, I am really glad to see so many people interested in this. I am a psych in a jail & we ALWAYS need people. Forensics is a great field, there are multiple diff things you can do. In a jail you do assessments as soon as people get arrested, often just hrs after they have murdered someone, deal with urgent situations in the facility ect. Working in a jail does have lots of ho hum boring days but there is enough to keep it exciting & it pays well for a psychologist position.

    • @whowhat_where
      @whowhat_where Месяц назад

      Do you still need people 😅😅 Because i really want to work in forensics

  • @crib4046
    @crib4046 2 года назад +7

    11 minutes in and captivated. A great speaker who keeps things interesting from the start. Thanks Dr Jeffrey.

  • @MsEnternity
    @MsEnternity 12 лет назад +14

    I'm taking a class in Forensic Psychology as my major is in psychology, and the best way to learn is to learn from the people who work in the field! Great lecture and I must say, I am happy to have a great teacher and to be able to learn even more from you!

  • @ytugtbk
    @ytugtbk 10 лет назад +8

    I have greater faith in the profession having watched this presentation.

  • @womanxyz14
    @womanxyz14 3 года назад +2

    So fun. Listening this lecture on a Saturday night. what a good date I'm having with Dr. Jeffery Kieliszewski.

  • @thebluehotel426
    @thebluehotel426 5 лет назад +73

    I like him. He's as confused as me.

  • @DontClarify
    @DontClarify 10 лет назад +94

    I'm a psychology student, this might have inspired me to become a forensic psychologist

    • @rogerjenkins7485
      @rogerjenkins7485 8 лет назад +7

      +DontClarify
      I wouldn't go after your forensic degree until you get your criminal justice degree first; believe me, it will help.

    • @sschmid1000
      @sschmid1000 8 лет назад +4

      I agree. I work in Acute Psychiatry Intensive Care/ Emerge. getting acute mental healthcare experience by becoming a security also is helpful for future psychiatrists. Get one on one with patients and nurses.

    • @tallbeauty
      @tallbeauty 7 лет назад +3

      Are you pursuing it now (2 years later)? I'm just finishing up my Bachelor's Degree in Psychology with a minor in Criminal Justice and watched this about a year ago. I want to go into Forensic Psych but the amount of school (and cost) is a bit of an issue for me.
      .

    • @alyssahenry1278
      @alyssahenry1278 7 лет назад +2

      Kendra Johnson some schools have a specific Forensic Psychology program. I'm currently a Forensic Phsych major at Southern New Hampshire University and found many schools over the US with this program/major available

    • @womanxyz14
      @womanxyz14 3 года назад +2

      So did it? (After 6 years) .. fully inspire you?

  • @RemiRose1
    @RemiRose1 12 лет назад +1

    Hi Jeff, I am currently studying psychology and planning on getting into forensics in sydney. My 10yo son has conducted criminal activity in the past due to a complete lack of understanding of how to live life in this world as expected. He is now a state ward. He now gets the high levels of intervention he needs simply to survive in this world. Thank you for doing your job. Justice needs to be accurate and fair.

  • @Ankatje
    @Ankatje 11 лет назад +20

    I'm starting my master's in psychology in a few weeks and I plan on focusing on forensic psychology. This is a very interesting lecture, I truly enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing this!

    • @analumedeiros4317
      @analumedeiros4317 3 года назад +2

      How did you like your master’s? I’m thinking about it.

    • @hi-il7ug
      @hi-il7ug 3 года назад +4

      its been 8 years, any updates?

    • @rianalee3138
      @rianalee3138 2 года назад

      @@analumedeiros4317 i am as well

  • @bastet5909
    @bastet5909 4 года назад +11

    I'm a Canadian planning to pick forensic psychology in future and the part where he mentioned Canada being "miles ahead" in research just locked it in for me 😆

  • @user-ks9zn9qz7y
    @user-ks9zn9qz7y 8 лет назад +116

    The dry jokes though

    • @badphish2435
      @badphish2435 3 года назад +4

      "I live right down the street. You're lucky to have somebody so close to lecture on the subject"... cause he ain't getting paid much! 🤣

  • @holycowbatman10
    @holycowbatman10 13 лет назад +4

    I love the fact that this is on here.

  • @nikicoley1417
    @nikicoley1417 11 лет назад +4

    thank you for uploading this... I love psychology and even though its not possible to have it as my career, i still study psychology as much as possible, and listening to many people and their differing opinions is extremely interesting and thought provoking. Thank You again

  • @MassIKofff
    @MassIKofff 11 лет назад +4

    Thank you Jeff for opening my eyes about forensic Psychology. I have been doubting about what path of psychology to choose and after your lecture I have much better understanding that forensic psychology is probably not for me. I had absolutely different thoughts and expectations before seeing your video as media present it in totally different way. Thank you !
    Stacy
    Sydney

  • @angieg4803
    @angieg4803 11 лет назад +8

    This lecture is so informative. I am a Criminal Justice major, I already have my Associate's. I want to get into the Prison system not as a Psychiatrist though.

  • @taiya001
    @taiya001 11 лет назад +4

    Wish I could get my hands on those slides. :D Thank you for posting this. It is soo much easier to learn by audio for me. Reading can only get me halfway there.

  • @davidd6962
    @davidd6962 10 лет назад +10

    Having a substance abuse disorder doesn't make you insane and/or incompetent to strand trial. It merely offers a starting point for rehabilitation. Being clinically addicted to alcohol isn't illegal, but getting behind the wheel while intoxicated is, disordered or not. Furthermore, the disorder in question might make a man tempted beyond reason to drink alcohol, but the nature of the disorder had nothing to do with placing an involuntary person in the driver seat.

  • @BODACIOUSBRYAN
    @BODACIOUSBRYAN 10 лет назад +31

    He kinda looks like an older version of Marty from back to the future.

  • @awnon5673
    @awnon5673 11 лет назад +14

    This is a very interesting lecture, I truly enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing this!

  • @einsteinzvice517
    @einsteinzvice517 7 лет назад +9

    It took a bit, but finally found you! "Quincy" was my IDOL growing up!

  • @oldemailiamnotusinganymore7413
    @oldemailiamnotusinganymore7413 7 лет назад +7

    Highly informative, intriguing, yet I had a real hard time hearing some of the questions that were being asked due to it not being loud enough when some people were asking questions. Am 3 courses away from a Bachelors Degree in Professional Studies with a concentration in Psychology.

  • @JC-bg7pe
    @JC-bg7pe 4 года назад +8

    There are MANY cases where "flashers" behavior/violence escalated to murder. One example is the Golden State killer.

  • @dusterfreak
    @dusterfreak Год назад +1

    I'm a junior in highschool wanting to take forensic psychology as my field of choice, I gotta say the Dr is really funny and this looks super interesting!

  • @LoveAuntAshley
    @LoveAuntAshley 12 лет назад +2

    It really makes me feel alot better to know that sociopathy is not a mental illness and therefore a person who is a sociopath cannot be found as insane and incompetent to stand trial. Sociopathy sounds so much like a diagnosis that I thought that's what people were trying to do was downplay the persons actions by giving them a label. It's good to know there are questions you can ask yourself that determine whether a person is a sociopath or not.

  • @veronikaj1089
    @veronikaj1089 7 лет назад +4

    This is such a interesting subject.
    I would love to be a criminal profiler,my dream job. He is so lucky.

  • @AbenakiNH
    @AbenakiNH 9 лет назад +3

    Fun listen...and yes, some misstatements of fact as pointed out by other previous posters, but he is free-forming for a class, not providing a training session. No quiz at the end of the class either. :-))
    It was interesting that he referenced OJ case, as demographically it is likely that the majority of the class may not have yet been born (1994). :-)))

  • @MsJessicaSkye
    @MsJessicaSkye 11 лет назад +3

    Thank you so much for posting!

  • @allie220905
    @allie220905 9 лет назад +20

    Jack Ruby didnt shot Kennedy, he shot Oswald; Oswald shot Kennedy

    • @typograf62
      @typograf62 7 лет назад +2

      A new conspirational theory? Ruby shot Kennedy and then shot Oswald to hide it?

    • @couchcaptain9379
      @couchcaptain9379 6 лет назад +3

      No, it's an established fact that Oswald was in custody when Jack Ruby shot him. What in the world is conspiration?

  • @augustema82
    @augustema82 7 лет назад +1

    I really enjoy watching this show.thank u for share it with us.

  • @X0Melody0X
    @X0Melody0X 9 лет назад +7

    great lecture!

  • @1jap334
    @1jap334 11 лет назад +1

    Thanks so much for posting this. Helped me understand this field a bit more.

  • @kiwifashion
    @kiwifashion 9 лет назад +8

    Interesting on how many areas of forensic there are. Thanks for the insights. ;-)

  • @TheHRMommy
    @TheHRMommy 2 года назад

    What an incredible lecture! Taking a forensic psych course, and this was so interesting! Thanks for sharing

  • @apresthus
    @apresthus 13 лет назад +4

    Fantastic lecture, makes me want to look into forensic psychology after i am done with criminology and psychology bsc :)

  • @dharma_tour_
    @dharma_tour_ 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for posting this 💛💙🙏

  • @tupacriz
    @tupacriz 11 лет назад +2

    That's brilliant to watch.

  • @globalcliques
    @globalcliques 5 лет назад +2

    I really appreciate this

  • @CynicalAMVs
    @CynicalAMVs 12 лет назад +1

    Dr. Jeffrey does additionally state that she was being prescribed medication beyond what was necessary to her. Essentially, she was under the influence to the degree of being able to be eligible for an insanity plea, because the insanity law disregards the length of a persons' mental state, but rather applies the mental state when the crime was committed.

  • @marklipson4428
    @marklipson4428 10 лет назад +8

    This is wonderful, does anybody have a copy of this presentation. Thanks in advance.

    • @johnasee2049
      @johnasee2049 6 лет назад +1

      Yeah, here you go
      ruclips.net/video/dOBSYw4KjYg/видео.html

  • @marksyron9278
    @marksyron9278 7 лет назад +1

    Yes, there is a show called Snapped and I live it.

  • @DharmendraJohals
    @DharmendraJohals 7 месяцев назад +1

    Sir My Self Dharmender Singh Private Forensic Expert But Studiing Further I am an Indian andHelping Hand Of Indian Police

  • @JustineCarissa
    @JustineCarissa 12 лет назад +2

    Very informative! Good job!

  • @evangelistkayeabraham4782
    @evangelistkayeabraham4782 7 лет назад +2

    What a great topic...am working on it anyway..K

  • @kieran3415
    @kieran3415 6 лет назад +5

    This is a great video but be realistic if you pursue a career in forensics only the best of the best get in and it's a extremely competitive area. You have to sacrifice alot and take a huge risk.

  • @xSilverPhinxx
    @xSilverPhinxx 11 лет назад +7

    I wish I knew a profiler, that would be cool.

  • @Really377
    @Really377 2 года назад

    Thank you loved every minute!

  • @LuvRachel24
    @LuvRachel24 11 лет назад +1

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @guardianoftruth1468
    @guardianoftruth1468 11 месяцев назад

    This was amazing!!!!

  • @LiftRunPressWorkout
    @LiftRunPressWorkout 11 лет назад +2

    This is Very interesting!!

  • @fugazifreezone9595
    @fugazifreezone9595 2 года назад

    I believe just the basic premise of profiling is sound. The problem is very few people can think out of the box and they account for the unexpected or anomalies.

  • @monicarodriguez297
    @monicarodriguez297 11 лет назад +2

    thank you for creating this video very helpful, wanted to pursue this career but i really want to know from an expert do you enjoy your career? and another side question how long did it take you to get your Ph.D?

  • @evacazacioc3205
    @evacazacioc3205 3 года назад

    I believe in forensic physiology . Im amazed by the human brains! Psychiatrists just need interesting objects to observe, evaluate....

  • @reeceb4622
    @reeceb4622 5 лет назад +3

    A little wrong about the criminal profiling part. They actually said it was a black male for the Atlanta killings but the press didn’t like that (couldn’t accept it wasn’t the Klan), however I get his point that it can be inaccurate.

  • @pennyp12
    @pennyp12 12 лет назад +2

    Thanks, this really helped. I've been interested in this study for a while now. I'm only in middle school so, I guess I'll have a higher start...maybe. I love the way he presented his lecture. I'm taking notes on this and I have a question. Would it do me good to say study acts of my friends, family, teachers ect. and try putting them into particular legal Statues? Or do you think that would confuse me a bit more? Thanks~

  • @dcaraway3809
    @dcaraway3809 5 лет назад

    I work in radiology do catscans xrays before that got an associate degree in teacher education 42 and want to go back thinking forsenic psychology seems so interesting to me

  • @ulrikezachmann7596
    @ulrikezachmann7596 2 года назад

    Your lecture was very interesting even though I am not a forensic student but a mature aged person who has worked with a cross section of people in the health and the care sector. I have an interest in why people do the things they do. I have found with younger people that they are more often victims of crime and then go on to emulate the behaviours inflicted on them. There is little support for these people even in many Western Cultures and perhaps Northern European countries are at least more on the right track somewhat like Norway and Sweden. Alternately in the West nothing much is done when people go through the justice process only to behave worse and worse and cycle repeats itself. I do wander though why women often get harsher sentences for the same or lesser crimes as men. A lot of crime has to do with power dynamics. People do things because they can. We bathe so much in scientific jargon like fetishising stuff and give it the disease label. The Psychopathic personality is more common in men and is rather reduced in the female population. Just a thought. Quite often the same crimes are committed over and over until a total disaster happens and people saw it coming, just not the courts or Psychiatrists.

  • @eMuleDownload
    @eMuleDownload 11 лет назад +5

    Is there a way to download the slides, video doesn't make much sense without being able to view them in whole.

  • @traburd6747
    @traburd6747 6 лет назад +1

    i majored in Alpena cc communications 1999 2000 full basketball lumberjack

  • @layscientificClarity
    @layscientificClarity 3 месяца назад

    Okay, if a criminal incident occurs, if it should be at the scene of the crime or both before or after the occurrence of a criminal act / criminal event and the police must set up a body and sterilize it with its discretion as an agency, but suppose the police ask about the incident between the perpetrators of the conflict, it is still an operational standard, but if it is shifted now, if it is shifted if the police are under pressure from the community or superiors or The mental and emotional pressure is very far proportional from his duty by only questioning one perpetrator among the two people who are in conflict and has even drawn early conclusions to decide which is wrong and right, there are also good regulations when carried out in the field

  • @baughk
    @baughk 10 лет назад

    Thank you!

  • @abaitedhook
    @abaitedhook 12 лет назад +1

    Hello, Jeff. My name is Rebecca. I appreciate your lectures and I also really appreciate your approach. I'm having an incredibly difficult time finding my place in this economy, although I do know where my interest stands. I would really like to talk further with someone who would be happy to give me some advice. If you wouldn't mind, please message me back. I am a bright, ambitious individual but I could really use insight from someone I hold in high regard. Thank you in advance...!

  • @blue4dude504
    @blue4dude504 13 лет назад +1

    I'M INTERESTED IN BECOMING A CRIMINAL PSYCHOLOGIST WHAT I NEED TO PREPAIRED FOR THIS.

  • @jasonniles8326
    @jasonniles8326 4 года назад

    This is good for beginners of criminal studies pretty basic stuff but

  • @1974Asha
    @1974Asha 10 лет назад

    Fascinating! Wish theyd sorted out the mike though, althou yr man paraphrases wat the questions are I'd rather hear the whole thing?

  • @Docter6000
    @Docter6000 12 лет назад +2

    wooooow i really enjoyed this

  • @grcc
    @grcc  11 лет назад +6

    Hello Peter - you may e-mail the professor who spoke at jkieliszewski@grcc.edu

  • @TheMellowGrenade
    @TheMellowGrenade 11 лет назад

    very good Lecture, very interesting

  • @dhararry7929
    @dhararry7929 5 дней назад

    23:28 The glitch on his face looks like something out of analog horror.

  • @vivianruiz-fumo5926
    @vivianruiz-fumo5926 3 года назад

    My daughter wants to be a forensic psychologist and is a rising senior in high school. As she looks at colleges, are there any that would best prepare her AND what should be her major? Of course psychology is what we are thinking, but we are hearing there are other pathways. Syracuse University has a great Forensic Science program that she would love to apply to, or she can major in criminology. I would love to hear your thoughts, advice. Thank you.

  • @jeffkieliszewski223
    @jeffkieliszewski223 12 лет назад +1

    Hey ktm200sx. That's me and my lecture. You're way off, dude. At first, I thought maybe you didn't really watch the entire lecture. But then, after reading your comments again; I realized you're just not very bright. But, that's okay. Thank you for your comments anyway. BTW, I have definitely put more people away and kept people locked up longer through my work and I haven't really helped anyone get released early for money. Again, thanks for chiming in.

  • @nighthawk0321
    @nighthawk0321 13 лет назад +3

    I would like to be a hommicide detective and im 12 so learning phycology of criminals and such are things that are important for me to know right?

    • @bellasandoval174
      @bellasandoval174 5 лет назад +1

      Ur about 20 now. R u still working ur way to being a homicide detective

    • @JohnSmith-qu8gd
      @JohnSmith-qu8gd 5 лет назад +1

      @@bellasandoval174 he's in jail ...

  • @100Abi
    @100Abi 7 лет назад +1

    this is really helpful

    • @jefferykieliszewski9497
      @jefferykieliszewski9497 7 лет назад +1

      I am glad you found this helpful!

    • @DavidAndrewsPEC
      @DavidAndrewsPEC 7 лет назад +1

      Although my training was in educational psychology, I have a deep interest in forensic psychology too. This is a brilliant lecture!

    • @DavidAndrewsPEC
      @DavidAndrewsPEC 7 лет назад +1

      So - the interface of your specialty and mine: the competency restoration programmes! Texas and Florida - the Bush states! Enough said! ;)

  • @Jicawa10
    @Jicawa10 13 лет назад

    @sayNOEtoNOM where at?

  • @kuzeyk9289
    @kuzeyk9289 6 лет назад

    Studied in the field of plants and all(life sci).will i be eligible to study forensic sci?

  • @RKTologist
    @RKTologist 4 года назад

    journey into darkness by john e douglas is a real good book on first hand profiling of serial killers

  • @MSEBONYSEDC
    @MSEBONYSEDC 14 лет назад +6

    I think I want to switch from being a forensic pathologist to a forensic psychologist.

  • @erikamnesian2786
    @erikamnesian2786 10 лет назад

    It's normal to make assumptions, that is profiling but to act on your assumption is not right.

  • @MsEnternity
    @MsEnternity 12 лет назад +2

    Have you never heard of the psychology model and legal theory? You are obviously on the legal side, but the goal of having a forensic psychologist in the court is to help or inform the jury or judge, not to defend the offender. Do your research before attempting to criticize something with your ignorant feelings.

  • @FishObreedy
    @FishObreedy 10 лет назад

    If your interested in learning more just ask

  • @LoveAuntAshley
    @LoveAuntAshley 12 лет назад

    "Most states don't have a statute for juvenile competency so they have to rely on the adult statute." Does that mean that a 14 year old has to be charged as an adult?? They can't be charged as a a juvenile??

  • @theamvgirlx
    @theamvgirlx 12 лет назад +1

    @TaylorSwift645 I'm with ya mate! Except I'm 14.

  • @magical8013
    @magical8013 5 лет назад

    If anyone is interested in some insane amount of knowledge. Feel free to contact me. I've done 9 years in prison. I have had first-hand experience with being around these people constantly. Now I can talk to somebody and let you know a lot of things about them. I will not go into detail,but like I said feel free to contact me. I'm sure it will be eye-opening

  • @MyriadCharm
    @MyriadCharm 13 лет назад

    @sayNOEtoNOM Yeah, i'm also interested in where you go to school lol. Not many schools offer it in my state.

  • @bhgtree
    @bhgtree 4 года назад +1

    The video title is not correct: CSI is forensic science not psychology. To be a CSI (Crime Scene Investigator) you have to study for a degree in science not psychology. Of course psychology, and its allied areas, play a major part in the solving of crimes, just differently from a CSI.

  • @susanarsoniadou3588
    @susanarsoniadou3588 2 года назад

    Should also study "How Liars Lure Their Victims".

  • @stoneeck2994
    @stoneeck2994 12 лет назад +1

    For any of you who thought this was good. Well, alot of his facts are wrong
    Jack ruby did not shoot Kennedy.

  • @d10scollections
    @d10scollections 12 лет назад +1

    It certainly is informative for someone who never heard a lecture of any relevant course BUT he seems to rely on basic knowledge on many topics.

  • @douglasvaughn3614
    @douglasvaughn3614 7 лет назад

    Jack Ruby shot oswald not Kenedy

  • @pathoplastic2
    @pathoplastic2 9 лет назад +1

    20 years behind cyber-criminals.
    Please catch up.
    The line between cyber & real time has diminished.
    Organized crime uses online distractions/"pseudo-apparent perps."...RT hired accomplices...The individual(s) who contract the crime/murder can easily avoid detection. (Much criminal activity is outsourced to corrupt countries w/ different laws...Requiring victims to navigate the FTC in these matters is difficult and does little to attenuate criminal activity or hold Perpetrators accountable...Even if caught they are low-level expendable hires...The Ring-leader is protected...Additionally, Agencies ignore claims of what appears to be cyber-abuse...Still thinking it's "adult bullying"--Seasoned perps: have their cover-up/alibi in place before even initiating the criminal activity.)
    I would love to go back to school and do research on the topic.

  • @6ECF01
    @6ECF01 8 месяцев назад

    15:30 Jack Ruby did not shoot Kennedy. Rudy shot Lee Oswald. Lee Oswald shot Kennedy.

  • @MrNicoleCherie
    @MrNicoleCherie 12 лет назад

    Is this in Idaho?

  • @jerryward2779
    @jerryward2779 11 лет назад +2

    what about the forensic of servitute to a made up autori t,would be very interesting.

  • @michaelmallal9101
    @michaelmallal9101 Год назад +1

    No psychology of judges? They're often very sick, even the CJ. I wanna be a flasher.

  • @BrunoOliveira-mz9zv
    @BrunoOliveira-mz9zv 10 лет назад +1

    jack ruby shot kennedy?

    • @rogerjenkins7485
      @rogerjenkins7485 8 лет назад +2

      +Bruno Oliveira
      Man; give it up; he made a mistake; so what; we know who shot Kennedy (supposedly) we now who shot Ruby; its ok, let it go.

  • @weirdgeek6801
    @weirdgeek6801 3 года назад

    Could anyone that's studying and aiming to be a forensic psychologist please reply to this comment? I really need advice on something so I would like to ask some questions

  • @SammyxSweetheart.02
    @SammyxSweetheart.02 2 года назад +1

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