That’s pretty much the truck I’ve built on the site a few times. I farm but I don’t tow heavy very often. Payload is generally more useful for me. I have a 2012 Laramie 3500 MegaCab Cummins right now. Ford 7.3 is tempting me though, and GM finally just brought their interiors up to speed.
Insider told me that Ram will drop the updated 6.4 from the Wagoneer in the Ram HD, likely with a more torque advantage than HP. They have to do something now that Ford will likely be over 500hp with the Godzilla.
I have a 3500 6.4 hemi. Like everyone said, payload. I use it to pull a 11500 lb 5th wheel. The hitch weight alone is a little over 2000 lb, not including passengers or other cargo. It does the job for what I need it plus I don't need to spend $10k extra for a diesel when I'm not driving it daily
This is exactly why I’m looking at a 3500, 8ft, hemi. I’ll take the payload over the towing capacity. I’ll never max the towing out, but the payload is easy to max out. I also can’t justify the diesel cost. Just in fuel, the gas is cheaper. It might be better on economy but the fuel costs more. In a spreadsheet over 300k miles the diesel never pays itself off vs the gas. Plus all the diesel maintenance… oil changes, def, filters, etc.
Well Ben, I think you answered all your questions. The 3500 hemi ram exists because..not everyone needs to tow 20k, diesel is 10-12k ontop upfront, plus Def, plus fuel filters, plus like 16 litres of oil, diesel is currently about 50 cents more per litre at the pump, you can daily drive the hemi in the city it doesn't mind the stop and go. Yes your milage will be worse in the city vs hwy. Alot worse. Payload is higher with the hemi because it weighs significantly less than a Cummins, then there is people that just don't need a diesel. A gasser will serve their needs just fine. Do your own research, do the math, chances are more often than not..a diesel truck is more of a want than a need imo. Those that need diesel for what it does will buy a diesel. Those that don't...they won't. I feel it's that simple
I think 2:30 answered your question as to why it exists. It's for those who need to haul heavy loads more often than towing heavy amounts. Also, the cummins would roughly $10k to the price. 👀
Only in united states...not the world..toyota hilux is the most popular truck in the world..and scania is the most popular big truck in the world..not peterbilt,not kenworth 👎🏻
I would love that truck for pulling a camper! Lots of room for family in the cab and lots of payload for firewood and camping gear and you don’t have to worry about def and extremely expensive oil changes, fuel filters, and the extra 10k for the Cummins.
i got a 2020 3500 cummins and can say when you delete all the epa bullshit they make manufactures put into them they run much better and not many issues arise compared to not deleting it
Would be nice if RAM offered a supercharger option for the 6.4 (or even the 5.7). Especially since people will eventually wake up and realize that "electric" is another way of saying "slave to an extension cord" and "they can pull the plug on me"....
Payload, payload, and payload.(minus the Mega Cab obviously). Plus, although the Cummins is still the best diesel, it still suffers the long term emissions failures they all do. And as others have said, unless you really do some heavy hauling, save yourself the $10-12K(H.O.) up front. You'll likely get a better deal on a gasser as well. I get about 18-20 on the higher in my CTD 3500 SRW. Thats about right. Also Ben, don't forget the 3500s have some serious spring action in the back, so if ya aint hauling, stick with the 2500!
i tow a 5th wheel but not all the time. I wanted the high payload (family and gear) and I also didn't want to pay 10k more for the cummins. I can't offload the whole family into the camper to offset the weight.
I have a 2018 Ram 2500 mega cab with the Cummins and wish I would have got the Hemi. My camper is only 7500 lbs and I have 60,000 miles on it and figure the def will crap out before too much longer. A lot of them mess up between 80 and 100 thousand mile. Doesn’t matter if it’s a Ram, Ford or Chevrolet.
Loooooool 4.10 is for hauling 20k+ loads.. I have 2 3.73s and both are mega cabs because that rear seat reclining is priceless in a truck. I can haul no sweat up to 20k :))
@@hollywinsman9464 yeah, I guess to satisfy the gas lovers the hemi mega cab still exists but Ram in diesel will always be the best because of the classic in line 6 6.7 Cummins engine
The elephant in the room is the ongoing costs of diesel, the risks of very expensive repairs and long unavailability of the vehicle due to said repairs. and then difficulty of finding decent diesel mechanics in some places. The big question for me is : will the 6.4 HEMI do ok with my 5,000lbs fully loaded camper payload ? Or do I have to get a 7.3 Ford and forgo the RAM feel ?
First off.. its a very very smart truck to buy….. especialy in winter snow country….. most people who have a boat or camper will never get back the diesel cost.. which you only get back after 100k miles of towing..TOWING 100k miles not goin 100k and TOWING here and there but actualy hooking a trailer up daily and towing every day..u will finaly get your money back at 100k…if you dont tow…that will be 200k-300k ..before u get your money back. Now lets talk about winter and EGR and DPF…you literaly have to warm your trucks oil up to 86 degree or preferably 100 degrees before u can move it…but that dpf is likely to clog up around 70-100k miles period. Thats a 3000 cost at least for new dpf…. Diesel has jumped the shark….it realy has thats why ford has gone 7.3 and 6.8…diesel all while clogging your dpf with more soot from cold oil …..diesel is no longer reliable..GAS is…to people out there looking for a 3500 and not using it to haul for a buisness just the boat or camper or dump trailer once in a whilethis is the ram….personaly id go ford 7.3 gas..all day. Even i am going gas my next truck… i cant put up with the emissions hassles of diesels anymore ram made a huge mistake canceling the 7.0 hemi for hd especially with what fords doing….i hear that cummins might come in tho with a 6.7 gas or turbogas engine
Im highly considering going gas in my next 1 ton. After the deisel headaches in my current cummins and past duramax. I live i. Norrhern canada so see cold winter's and the deisel isnt worth it anymore. Just toen betwwen ram ford or chevy......
Diesel trucks are very nice but they require more maintenance and upkeep and now are much less reliable with the regen/def requirements…. A complete show could be made. Part time towers it works
Fun fact about the Mega Cab: if you get the 6 seat configuration & have all 6 seats occupied, the rear occupants don’t have any cup holders.
put the cup holders in the map pockets in the back doors
That’s pretty much the truck I’ve built on the site a few times. I farm but I don’t tow heavy very often. Payload is generally more useful for me. I have a 2012 Laramie 3500 MegaCab Cummins right now. Ford 7.3 is tempting me though, and GM finally just brought their interiors up to speed.
Insider told me that Ram will drop the updated 6.4 from the Wagoneer in the Ram HD, likely with a more torque advantage than HP. They have to do something now that Ford will likely be over 500hp with the Godzilla.
@@hellkitty1014 chevy showed that u don't need 4 figure torque numbers to tow over 35K pounds with their updated 6.6 diesel. It's all about efficiency
I have a 3500 6.4 hemi. Like everyone said, payload. I use it to pull a 11500 lb 5th wheel. The hitch weight alone is a little over 2000 lb, not including passengers or other cargo. It does the job for what I need it plus I don't need to spend $10k extra for a diesel when I'm not driving it daily
Same thing I'm doing.
This is exactly why I’m looking at a 3500, 8ft, hemi. I’ll take the payload over the towing capacity. I’ll never max the towing out, but the payload is easy to max out. I also can’t justify the diesel cost. Just in fuel, the gas is cheaper. It might be better on economy but the fuel costs more. In a spreadsheet over 300k miles the diesel never pays itself off vs the gas. Plus all the diesel maintenance… oil changes, def, filters, etc.
Well Ben, I think you answered all your questions. The 3500 hemi ram exists because..not everyone needs to tow 20k, diesel is 10-12k ontop upfront, plus Def, plus fuel filters, plus like 16 litres of oil, diesel is currently about 50 cents more per litre at the pump, you can daily drive the hemi in the city it doesn't mind the stop and go. Yes your milage will be worse in the city vs hwy. Alot worse. Payload is higher with the hemi because it weighs significantly less than a Cummins, then there is people that just don't need a diesel. A gasser will serve their needs just fine. Do your own research, do the math, chances are more often than not..a diesel truck is more of a want than a need imo. Those that need diesel for what it does will buy a diesel. Those that don't...they won't. I feel it's that simple
Bingo!!!!! Not everyone needs a deisel but still needs to tow. Gas will be better suited for most people
I think 2:30 answered your question as to why it exists. It's for those who need to haul heavy loads more often than towing heavy amounts. Also, the cummins would roughly $10k to the price. 👀
Its 15k with tax
The regular output is 10k according to the website builder
RAM IS THE ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR TRUCK IN THE WORLD!!!
Only in united states...not the world..toyota hilux is the most popular truck in the world..and scania is the most popular big truck in the world..not peterbilt,not kenworth 👎🏻
I would love that truck for pulling a camper! Lots of room for family in the cab and lots of payload for firewood and camping gear and you don’t have to worry about def and extremely expensive oil changes, fuel filters, and the extra 10k for the Cummins.
Lots of people do NOT want a modern diesel. They have to many issues.
I want it
i got a 2020 3500 cummins and can say when you delete all the epa bullshit they make manufactures put into them they run much better and not many issues arise compared to not deleting it
The repair bills, payload and adding dif,
Ben, sorry but I need to point out that the 6.4 will get 20 to 23 mpg at 55 to 60mph. I do like your videos.
My 2016 6.4 3500 probably wouldn't get that good going down hill. I average 14-16 on road trips. I've gotten as low as 5.5mpg on a tank full towing.
@DanM yours has the 5 speed I believe.
I have the 8 speed. 2019 Tradesman CC 4wd
Would be nice if RAM offered a supercharger option for the 6.4 (or even the 5.7). Especially since people will eventually wake up and realize that "electric" is another way of saying "slave to an extension cord" and "they can pull the plug on me"....
Payload, payload, and payload.(minus the Mega Cab obviously). Plus, although the Cummins is still the best diesel, it still suffers the long term emissions failures they all do. And as others have said, unless you really do some heavy hauling, save yourself the $10-12K(H.O.) up front. You'll likely get a better deal on a gasser as well.
I get about 18-20 on the higher in my CTD 3500 SRW. Thats about right. Also Ben, don't forget the 3500s have some serious spring action in the back, so if ya aint hauling, stick with the 2500!
2022 Ram 3500HD Heavy-Duty Mega Cab Laramie Night Edition 4X4!
I would definitely have to change the suspension in that 😬
i tow a 5th wheel but not all the time. I wanted the high payload (family and gear) and I also didn't want to pay 10k more for the cummins. I can't offload the whole family into the camper to offset the weight.
I have a 2018 Ram 2500 mega cab with the Cummins and wish I would have got the Hemi. My camper is only 7500 lbs and I have 60,000 miles on it and figure the def will crap out before too much longer. A lot of them mess up between 80 and 100 thousand mile. Doesn’t matter if it’s a Ram, Ford or Chevrolet.
This with a 4:10 would do well with a 10-13k 5th wheel.
Loooooool 4.10 is for hauling 20k+ loads.. I have 2 3.73s and both are mega cabs because that rear seat reclining is priceless in a truck. I can haul no sweat up to 20k :))
Perfect truck for hauling a camper and a boat behind!
Hemi fuel is cheaper than diesel fuel right now.
Gasoline is less economical and diesel is only a dollar more 😂
@@edgarrodriguez5436 I know, I was just guessing at Ben's question; does anyone know why this exists. Personally, I love the Dodge Rams - diesel, 4x4.
@@hollywinsman9464 yeah, I guess to satisfy the gas lovers the hemi mega cab still exists but Ram in diesel will always be the best because of the classic in line 6 6.7 Cummins engine
The elephant in the room is the ongoing costs of diesel, the risks of very expensive repairs and long unavailability of the vehicle due to said repairs. and then difficulty of finding decent diesel mechanics in some places.
The big question for me is : will the 6.4 HEMI do ok with my 5,000lbs fully loaded camper payload ? Or do I have to get a 7.3 Ford and forgo the RAM feel ?
At least 11K less than a diesel. If you drive in the city mostly the modern diesel with Blue Def can be a nightmare.
Why nightmare?
DPF regeneration
First off.. its a very very smart truck to buy….. especialy in winter snow country….. most people who have a boat or camper will never get back the diesel cost.. which you only get back after 100k miles of towing..TOWING 100k miles not goin 100k and TOWING here and there but actualy hooking a trailer up daily and towing every day..u will finaly get your money back at 100k…if you dont tow…that will be 200k-300k ..before u get your money back. Now lets talk about winter and EGR and DPF…you literaly have to warm your trucks oil up to 86 degree or preferably 100 degrees before u can move it…but that dpf is likely to clog up around 70-100k miles period. Thats a 3000 cost at least for new dpf…. Diesel has jumped the shark….it realy has thats why ford has gone 7.3 and 6.8…diesel all while clogging your dpf with more soot from cold oil …..diesel is no longer reliable..GAS is…to people out there looking for a 3500 and not using it to haul for a buisness just the boat or camper or dump trailer once in a whilethis is the ram….personaly id go ford 7.3 gas..all day. Even i am going gas my next truck… i cant put up with the emissions hassles of diesels anymore ram made a huge mistake canceling the 7.0 hemi for hd especially with what fords doing….i hear that cummins might come in tho with a 6.7 gas or turbogas engine
Ben, your work is good. To me it would be better if you were running your words together much less!! Otherwise, great videos!!
I always find it interesting that big engine has just a single exhausted / outlet?
True
I mean it's the same for the 6.6 chevy gas n the 7.3 Ford gas
What a ram truck looks good
It exists because it gives a guy named Ben Hardy something to do….🤣👍
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Did you mention the tow capacity for that particular build?
Im highly considering going gas in my next 1 ton. After the deisel headaches in my current cummins and past duramax. I live i. Norrhern canada so see cold winter's and the deisel isnt worth it anymore. Just toen betwwen ram ford or chevy......
No Column shifter? That’s a first
Breathe and slow down man..... you are rushing these reviews.
373 we dont say point bro im a hot rodder old school
Because was build
The Cummins sounds better too
3500 Mega Cab 😳
Its a 1 ton rough is good you wont smooth get a 1500 ram
Rodeo, nuff said.
What if it was a Dually? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Do they make such a truck? I would assume all Dually have Cummins high output with the Aisin.
Big truck...small torque 😆 what in the world 🤷🏻♂️😆😆
80k+++ lol never
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Diesel trucks are very nice but they require more maintenance and upkeep and now are much less reliable with the regen/def requirements…. A complete show could be made. Part time towers it works