I love the line, "it's crazy how we haven't had EITHER of you at the house yet. It shows how she's overcompensating and that clearly Joe HAS been at the house. And that's how Love finally catches on. Brilliant.
She spanned two seasons. While I'm not over the moon over her handling, "done dirty" is kinda overkill. They showcased Victoria plenty which makes up for it anyway
Originally, the Love's sonogram showed a girl. Thats why Joe stayed. Another girl for him to be obsessed with. That might have let him focus on their daughter and family for a couple of yrs. but nope ...a son. And Joe starts daydreaming about the girl next door
@@sylvester3018 thats primitive and disgusting, youre not even supposed to feel attraction to someone if youre inlove with your partner, let be real joe goldberg is mentally unwell, the things he does are for ill habits, not love
This is the starting point of the consequences joe made. Imagine you’re a first time mom, stressed, no sleep, ppd, and joe knew loves history, then you start to feel alone, unloved and insecure, then you have your suspicion and that suspicion became true. For me this was joe’s karma, i only wish love ended up with a better man who will heal her from her past, not with a psychopath who does nothing but worsen her mentality.
Both are truly awful people and they just make each other worse, if we're being honest its not a relationship that is going to heal or help either of them, with either them or anyone else.
SPOILER ALERT: Joe “stopped” loving love after he realized she’s just like him. They were a recipe for disaster (with killing people and all), but I wish she didn’t die though lol
@@theshape5187 they’re definitely different in some ways, but they have so many similarities. They could of either made or break each other and the way he was still acting while being in a relationship with her made them both fall. They could of changed for each other, I also wish her brother didn’t die in the movie.
wow these comments and people who’ve been defending joe really show how misogynistic our culture is. men cheating is seen as okay but the minute a women who’s been gaslit, lied to and ignored like love was, decides to find solace in someone who gives her attention, y’all lose ur minds.
It’s wrong on both ends. Ppl are just calling Love hypocritical for getting mad at Joe for the Natalie thing (which was completely justified) and killed the woman and then went and did the same thing and more with Theo.
This show is pissing me tf off. They are literally both cold blooded serial killers, killing with the same motive… out of love….THEY’RE SOULMATES. Why tf is Joe looking at Love like she isn’t the split image, female version of himself. Neither of them are better than the other
cause joe doesnt want a spitting image of himself. he wants a sweet girl with a golden heart who will accept his flaws no matter what, which clearly isn't Love LMAO. in summary, he's delusional.
@@resarious6225 but that’s dumb. No person in their right mind is gonna accept his flaws. His flaws are abnormal. The only person that would Is a person who has those flaws too. Which was Love. But my previous comment was posted before I finished the season. I see now that Love was a lying, cheating, hoe. I’m glad he didn’t like her.
@@xykeem4805 well yeah thats what i mean. This is Joe we're talking about here this man is hella delusional and a hypocrite 💀. Also Joe cheated on her too so they're both annoying tbh
@@resarious6225 I think a person shoukd be better and so on But i wouldn't say someone is a hypocrite for wanting something in their partner that they don't have This happens a lot, most men want a feminine woman while they want themselves to be masculine, and most women want a masculine man while they are feminine, i wouldn't call this hypocrisy
@@CherrrrrrrrrrrrrrNo he didn't lol. He kissed a girl, and decided not to lay pipe, whereas love had the audacity to completely cheat with a TEENAGE boy inside of her.
@@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 Kissing is cheating... Joe cheated. And Joe cheated whilst ignoring and neglecting his WIFE. Love cheated AFTER she got tired of being ignored and neglected by her HUSBAND. Neither one is justifiable. However, it is important to understand a person's motives. Joe cheated because he realized Love was exactly like him - Joe hates himself, and so he began to hate Love. Ironically, she was the closest to true love he'd ever get. No sane woman could love a serial killer - just ask Guinevere Beck. Oh wait, you can't lol
People Hating love, yall really hate love. Don't realize they both are two sides of the same coin. Joe is no better. Just proves how deeply misogyny is inrooted
@@rebelfriend1818 The only people Joe killed in this season honestly had it coming. Ryan sucked. He deserved his death. And Love deserved it too, because she is an impulsive murderer with no sense of how to be sensible.
At this point in the story she was right of everything and to feel that way but taking Natalie life was crazy 🤣🤣🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ and everything she did after. Joe had to take her out.
@@bell581 Natalie was wrong for messing wit joe but joe ain’t give in. But eventually he was 🤣🤣 joe gots to die in s4 or something. He keeps getting away wit ts. Love overreact and then continue cheating on joe😂😂😂😂 joe only justified action so for far is taking down love
Joe already told love him and the neighbor had a drink the neighbor said “you guys have never been to the house” so the neighbor lied insinuating they’ve never hung out (why lie unless it’s because he cheated lol) so she knew
Yeah like Aurora said, she lied about Joe never being over, after he had already confessed to having been over. And there's really only one reason to lie about hanging out with someone...
I love how they made it seem like Natalie would be a huge part of the season and her and how would have a fling when really she gets killed early on! Much more interesting
I know you there’s nothing simple about it when someone gets stuck in your mind, are you obsessed with her? Love could have been so good for Joe she knew him and understood him like noone else could but she HATED being lied to
Love did the things she did cause she wanted Joe to stay obsessed with her. Which is awful but she was pretty cool. He became obsessed with someone else and she lost her way and wanted the spark they had before. But Joe is only in love with the idea that he doesn’t want A. For the girl to find out who he truly is or B. that even if the girl knew, she wasn’t “obsessed” back (like killing) please correct me if i’m wrong i need to rewatch the whole thing
You’re absolutely not wrong. But I think the main thing is because she was a direct reflection of Joe’s darker side. After watching S4, there’s no other reason in my brain 😭
Love was the only woman capable of accepting Joe despite all the things he did, but Joe wouldn't do the same for her. For Joe they are like his playthings, he sees a pretty woman who he finds attractive and he starts thinking they need him. He will try and make them revolve around him, it's like he's their hero. The ultimate savior.
My question is why did love kill Natalie when Joe told her the truth? She asked Joe what happened and he flat out told her the truth, Natalie was the one that lied but she doesn't owe you anything. Rely on your husband to tell the truth, i know it was hard because he had a box and everything but cmon. She didn't have to kill Natalie and also it took her the final episode to realize the one she needed to kill was Joe when this whole time it would have been easier to get a divorce. But even that she didn't want. Joe will never be satisfied with what he has and love will never not be impulsive.
@@maxcan5612 their difference is that Joe is the dangerous calculated type of psychopath while Love is a lot more reckless and impulsive which explains why she does what she does.
The red underwear that joe kept as memorabilia must have got love thinking that he did cheat on him. And also upon seeing that underwear made her realize joe was sniffing it while they were having sex
Ohhh, Victoria ... You are next gen talented actress, so cute yet so ...special. You are a gem. You are precious. Dont let hollywood destroy your absolute charm & sensibility. Protect this woman at all costwm, pleeease ❤
Okay, but Joe was honest with Love and told her where he was and that he had a drink with her. Natalie was the one who lied and said he wasn’t there. 🙄 Yes, Love asked all of the right questions, but Joe did turn Natalie down for Love. Love killing Natalie strictly because she made a move on Joe was Love’s fault.
Interesting how they switched her to being impulsive when last season she wasn't. She literally had full plans with both kills in season 2. I guess it's just something to make Joe seem more same.
@@franciscoancer2618 She had a whole plan before killing the nanny and then another convoluted plan for killing Delilah that involved Ellie getting temporarily arrested.
@@franciscoancer2618 She had a plan. It heavily depended on her parents being rich but yea she planned to frame forty four killing the nanny and then tried to stage Delilah's death as a suicide. she planned it before because she told Joe, " do you think I'd do this if i didn't have a plan for her?" That was regarding framing Ellie and Delilah for Henderson's murder. Her convoluted plan even tied up Joe's loose ends.
considering this was a psychotic drama ,even in that way wasn't being a psychotic killer and taking revenge was predictable,i mean even both are psychotic people and married and delusional and obsessive serial killers and all, just saying
Lol Imagine feminist supporting a serial killer just because she was almost cheated on without realizing the fact that she's going to kill another WoMAn soon. Feminism only for the main character.
The male (Joe) is played by Penn Badgley, the first female character (the neighbor, Natalie) is played by Michaela McManus, and lastly the other female character fighting with Joe is Love, played by Victoria Pedretti!!
Emotionally cheating is still a thing and he kissed her but love made it worse for sleeping with a 19 year old child in the forest of all places while they were looking for his dead stepmother whom she killed I’m not on either side but Love and Joe are bat shit crazy psychopath’s
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I love the line, "it's crazy how we haven't had EITHER of you at the house yet. It shows how she's overcompensating and that clearly Joe HAS been at the house. And that's how Love finally catches on. Brilliant.
No it’s because Joe had already told Love he’d been to the house. So she wonders why Natalie would lie about it
@@meinkanta yup
@@meinkanta I mean that is basically what she just said
@gingerisevil02 yea, but it's a better way of saying it
I love season 3 so much mainly because of Love she’s just so interesting and pretty. And she knew Joe inside out basically.
I get that they need like a new girl each season, But Love was so awesome, she was done so dirty
No she wasnt, she was portrayed amazingly lol
ngl i was aexpecting the next season to be joe trying to escape from love after she almost kidnaps him at the end of the third season
She spanned two seasons. While I'm not over the moon over her handling, "done dirty" is kinda overkill. They showcased Victoria plenty which makes up for it anyway
No, she was not!
@@jenlindley7780 oh, okay
She knows Joe for real “I don’t care, are you obsessed with her? Are you sure?”
She knows how Joe can get obsessed with a woman and she knew it
😂😂
Originally, the Love's sonogram showed a girl. Thats why Joe stayed. Another girl for him to be obsessed with. That might have let him focus on their daughter and family for a couple of yrs. but nope ...a son.
And Joe starts daydreaming about the girl next door
Love is fine as hell. Joe stays dropping the already SECURED bag.
“I don’t even care if you fvcked her, are you OBSESSED with her?” THISSS
Agreed 😂
how does she not care wtf
@@medamegbecause she knows that a guy can have sex with another woman and still love his wife.
@@sylvester3018 thats primitive and disgusting, youre not even supposed to feel attraction to someone if youre inlove with your partner, let be real joe goldberg is mentally unwell, the things he does are for ill habits, not love
I can’t believe there’s people in the comments taking sides of both people who are literal psychotic killers
Exactly...team NONE lmfao
@@champagnesupernova4081 I’m team “put those mfs in jail”
They both are bat shit crazy
Love is not a psycho but joe is
@@wholelottapain8130 what…
This is the starting point of the consequences joe made. Imagine you’re a first time mom, stressed, no sleep, ppd, and joe knew loves history, then you start to feel alone, unloved and insecure, then you have your suspicion and that suspicion became true. For me this was joe’s karma, i only wish love ended up with a better man who will heal her from her past, not with a psychopath who does nothing but worsen her mentality.
so true
bro love is a serial killer too, if she found a better man, she’d kill him
Both are truly awful people and they just make each other worse, if we're being honest its not a relationship that is going to heal or help either of them, with either them or anyone else.
LOL. Are we going to forget that she, like Joe, is deranged and a murderer? She doesn't deserve to be treated better than Joe.
@@matias_dbd I thinks he should survive somehow and stay together forever and die together so that they don't involve anymore people
SPOILER ALERT:
Joe “stopped” loving love after he realized she’s just like him. They were a recipe for disaster (with killing people and all), but I wish she didn’t die though lol
True but also different in so many ways
he’s such a hypocrite
@@theshape5187 they’re definitely different in some ways, but they have so many similarities. They could of either made or break each other and the way he was still acting while being in a relationship with her made them both fall. They could of changed for each other, I also wish her brother didn’t die in the movie.
@@lina8035How is he a hypocrite? He doesn't like love and he doesn't like himself either. Learn the definition of the words you use.
@@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 well.. now he does
The fact she was cheating inside of their own home and had the audacity to get mad.
Yeah but this scene happened months before that
this happened before that?
@@Charlotte-cu7sn Yes. It happened before the Theo thing
@@ChiefJeyEf yes so your comment makes no sense. She was made here. “had the audacity”
@@Charlotte-cu7sn what? Why shouldn't she be mad when her husband kisses someone else?
Lmao Joe and his fleeting fantasies
0:23 her face kills me here LMAOO
wow these comments and people who’ve been defending joe really show how misogynistic our culture is. men cheating is seen as okay but the minute a women who’s been gaslit, lied to and ignored like love was, decides to find solace in someone who gives her attention, y’all lose ur minds.
It’s wrong on both ends. Ppl are just calling Love hypocritical for getting mad at Joe for the Natalie thing (which was completely justified) and killed the woman and then went and did the same thing and more with Theo.
Hold up its the other way If women cheat its fine.
If a man cheats he goes to jail
@@fifa4lifeunknow795 Literally what the fuck are you talking about?
People probably just dislike love more
@@fifa4lifeunknow795 you clearly live under a damn trash can wtf 🤨
This show is pissing me tf off. They are literally both cold blooded serial killers, killing with the same motive… out of love….THEY’RE SOULMATES. Why tf is Joe looking at Love like she isn’t the split image, female version of himself. Neither of them are better than the other
cause joe doesnt want a spitting image of himself. he wants a sweet girl with a golden heart who will accept his flaws no matter what, which clearly isn't Love LMAO. in summary, he's delusional.
@@resarious6225 but that’s dumb. No person in their right mind is gonna accept his flaws. His flaws are abnormal. The only person that would Is a person who has those flaws too. Which was Love. But my previous comment was posted before I finished the season. I see now that Love was a lying, cheating, hoe. I’m glad he didn’t like her.
@@xykeem4805 well yeah thats what i mean. This is Joe we're talking about here this man is hella delusional and a hypocrite 💀. Also Joe cheated on her too so they're both annoying tbh
@@resarious6225
I think a person shoukd be better and so on
But i wouldn't say someone is a hypocrite for wanting something in their partner that they don't have
This happens a lot, most men want a feminine woman while they want themselves to be masculine, and most women want a masculine man while they are feminine, i wouldn't call this hypocrisy
He has some audacity, considering how he reacted when Candace/beck cheated on him
Beck and Candace were idiots, I'm happy they died.
What's more hurtful to her is if Joe is obsessed with another woman. Lmfaoo
Spoiler alert: they BOTH are cheaters... And killers too. So think twice before choosing sides
joe cheated first to be fair
@@Cherrrrrrrrrrrrrrhe did no lie. Tbh love and joe are perfect for each other.
@@CherrrrrrrrrrrrrrNo he didn't lol. He kissed a girl, and decided not to lay pipe, whereas love had the audacity to completely cheat with a TEENAGE boy inside of her.
@@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 Kissing is cheating... Joe cheated. And Joe cheated whilst ignoring and neglecting his WIFE. Love cheated AFTER she got tired of being ignored and neglected by her HUSBAND. Neither one is justifiable. However, it is important to understand a person's motives. Joe cheated because he realized Love was exactly like him - Joe hates himself, and so he began to hate Love. Ironically, she was the closest to true love he'd ever get. No sane woman could love a serial killer - just ask Guinevere Beck. Oh wait, you can't lol
@@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08oh please love already knew Joe stopped loving her the second she found out he got obsessed with Natalie
I love Victoria Pedretti she's amazing.
People Hating love, yall really hate love. Don't realize they both are two sides of the same coin. Joe is no better. Just proves how deeply misogyny is inrooted
Weirdo joe is the endgame
She literally killed Natalie. Shows how deeply people don’t care about women being murdered. Kinda projecting with the whole sexism thing here dude
@@rebelfriend1818 The only people Joe killed in this season honestly had it coming. Ryan sucked. He deserved his death. And Love deserved it too, because she is an impulsive murderer with no sense of how to be sensible.
Shes a murderer. She was going to murder a single mom.
@@rebelfriend1818 And how many innocent women has Joe killed (or tried to kill)?
At this point in the story she was right of everything and to feel that way but taking Natalie life was crazy 🤣🤣🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ and everything she did after. Joe had to take her out.
@@bell581 Natalie was wrong for messing wit joe but joe ain’t give in. But eventually he was 🤣🤣 joe gots to die in s4 or something. He keeps getting away wit ts. Love overreact and then continue cheating on joe😂😂😂😂 joe only justified action so for far is taking down love
Nathalie deserved tho, how could she cheat on my mental husband Matthew?
@@Gaytotoso She didn't deserve shit. Cheating is bad but cheaters don't deserve death.
This scene perfectly depicts how parents fight and argue with eachother.
Best
Love
Ever.
Victoria is amazing, as she was in borh haunted ...
What an actress ! Pleeeease, more roles ❤
How exactly did love find out during that discussion with Natalie ?
Joe already told love him and the neighbor had a drink the neighbor said “you guys have never been to the house” so the neighbor lied insinuating they’ve never hung out (why lie unless it’s because he cheated lol) so she knew
Aurora Gonzales Thank you !!!
She senses, she has bad vibes
Yeah like Aurora said, she lied about Joe never being over, after he had already confessed to having been over. And there's really only one reason to lie about hanging out with someone...
cowardlycourage got it the first time mate !
I love how they made it seem like Natalie would be a huge part of the season and her and how would have a fling when really she gets killed early on! Much more interesting
I know you there’s nothing simple about it when someone gets stuck in your mind, are you obsessed with her?
Love could have been so good for Joe she knew him and understood him like noone else could but she HATED being lied to
These too were just perfect for each other😂
Love did the things she did cause she wanted Joe to stay obsessed with her. Which is awful but she was pretty cool. He became obsessed with someone else and she lost her way and wanted the spark they had before. But Joe is only in love with the idea that he doesn’t want A. For the girl to find out who he truly is or B. that even if the girl knew, she wasn’t “obsessed” back (like killing)
please correct me if i’m wrong i need to rewatch the whole thing
You’re absolutely not wrong. But I think the main thing is because she was a direct reflection of Joe’s darker side. After watching S4, there’s no other reason in my brain 😭
Love was the only woman capable of accepting Joe despite all the things he did, but Joe wouldn't do the same for her.
For Joe they are like his playthings, he sees a pretty woman who he finds attractive and he starts thinking they need him. He will try and make them revolve around him, it's like he's their hero. The ultimate savior.
Is Seasons 1 and 2 forgotten by the writers? Where are the consequences for Joe's actions on those Seasons?
I like how this has 60 comments and most of them are replies lol
My question is why did love kill Natalie when Joe told her the truth? She asked Joe what happened and he flat out told her the truth, Natalie was the one that lied but she doesn't owe you anything. Rely on your husband to tell the truth, i know it was hard because he had a box and everything but cmon. She didn't have to kill Natalie and also it took her the final episode to realize the one she needed to kill was Joe when this whole time it would have been easier to get a divorce. But even that she didn't want. Joe will never be satisfied with what he has and love will never not be impulsive.
It’s not as simple as that!!! You’re expecting wayyyy too much from a psychopath🤣
@@metroglode1305 I know but gotta say I was shook the way she just killed Natalie!! Joe is usually more crazy LOL
@@maxcan5612 their difference is that Joe is the dangerous calculated type of psychopath while Love is a lot more reckless and impulsive which explains why she does what she does.
The red underwear that joe kept as memorabilia must have got love thinking that he did cheat on him. And also upon seeing that underwear made her realize joe was sniffing it while they were having sex
Its literally because he had a box. Love isnt stupid. She KNOWS box means obsession which means complete abandonment of everything but that 1 woman.
I fucking loved them both😂
This women was so bored of her life that she legit unknowingly ended up incriminating herself in front of the wife of the guy whom she kissed... 😂
The most shocking thing was how love found out. I was like Joe she really your ur dead meat
Ohhh, Victoria ... You are next gen talented actress, so cute yet so ...special.
You are a gem. You are precious. Dont let hollywood destroy your absolute charm & sensibility.
Protect this woman at all costwm, pleeease ❤
idc what anyone says.. i’d let Love ruin me
Well Love cheated on Joe with a 19 year old . That's just disgusting
Okay, but Joe was honest with Love and told her where he was and that he had a drink with her. Natalie was the one who lied and said he wasn’t there. 🙄 Yes, Love asked all of the right questions, but Joe did turn Natalie down for Love. Love killing Natalie strictly because she made a move on Joe was Love’s fault.
I kinda wish they would have had love be the POV narrator it would have been interesting
Is it just me or does Love kinda look like Kate Winslet in this scene?
I love Love
“Are you obsessed with her” how she reacts when you “cheat” on her in her own dream for some reason.
Love >>>>> Joe
Love is dead, and Joe is alive. Joe is MILES clear of that crazy girl. Joe>>>>>>>Love
Aye! It’s Tall Girl’s mom, right???
Bro I couldnt stand Love this season. I was so happy when Joe ended her 😂
Same
Love not a name, a fail series.....
Interesting how they switched her to being impulsive when last season she wasn't. She literally had full plans with both kills in season 2. I guess it's just something to make Joe seem more same.
Maybe she was always impulsive, last season she just had more time to figure things out.
@@franciscoancer2618 She had a whole plan before killing the nanny and then another convoluted plan for killing Delilah that involved Ellie getting temporarily arrested.
@@chaosspy6723 Did she? I felt like her parents took care of the nanny and Delilah was killed when she found Joe’s glass box.
@@franciscoancer2618 She had a plan. It heavily depended on her parents being rich but yea she planned to frame forty four killing the nanny and then tried to stage Delilah's death as a suicide. she planned it before because she told Joe, " do you think I'd do this if i didn't have a plan for her?" That was regarding framing Ellie and Delilah for Henderson's murder. Her convoluted plan even tied up Joe's loose ends.
@@chaosspy6723She killed delilah out of emotion and then she planned something for it, just like she did with her kills this season
considering this was a psychotic drama ,even in that way wasn't being a psychotic killer and taking revenge was predictable,i mean even both are psychotic people and married and delusional and obsessive serial killers and all, just saying
Is not this female also in the HAUNTING OF THE BLY MORE
Didn’t love sleep with Theo or 🕴🏽
After this tho
It was after this
Yea she’s a cheater at the end
Lol Imagine feminist supporting a serial killer just because she was almost cheated on without realizing the fact that she's going to kill another WoMAn soon. Feminism only for the main character.
lmaooooooooOoooooOOOOOOOOOO
What's the name of the other actress
The male (Joe) is played by Penn Badgley, the first female character (the neighbor, Natalie) is played by Michaela McManus, and lastly the other female character fighting with Joe is Love, played by Victoria Pedretti!!
@@STRAWBERRYTOOTH beautiful
Was he rly cheating tho, she maybe kissed him once and he ended it
He did steal Natalie's underwear so he did cheat
He kept a box. Love knows that he's obsessed with her whether or not they slept together.
*girl, that's still cheating..*
@@WildflowerWildfire11 I forgot about that.
Emotionally cheating is still a thing and he kissed her but love made it worse for sleeping with a 19 year old child in the forest of all places while they were looking for his dead stepmother whom she killed I’m not on either side but Love and Joe are bat shit crazy psychopath’s
🤣🤣🤣
woah
Huhhuh
I hate both of these characters. They’re both awful and there’s nothing likable about either one of them
I really thought Love was gonna last 😢