Thanks Ron, @UCFnhdh4Hj78gtRtreOR9OzQ ..I took the plunge and bought this little magic box in the used market...absolutely love the sound and the aesthetics..That Dirac is a great addition..it makes the bass so much better in my room(I listened without and had my ears constantly blocked..now I don't )..and all that in 15 mins..no moving the sub from corner to corner! It is not the laid back sound of my 1st NAD product back in those days,Direct digital C390DD...these amps do come alive..Also small design details like play after pause of songs doesn't blare but ramps up..Nice. or the amp standby and instant wake up..no switching on 4 boxes to listen to music..Nicer. Great video above ..(y)
Great review. Had my M10 12 months now and currently experimenting with power amps via the pre outs just well, because. But if your after an all in one that does basically everything I highly recommend it. Dirac is fantastic with my room.
Joao Roman I ended up using the internal amp of the m10 due to the built in software of the m10 volume limited the actual power/volume of the power amps. The ps audio stellar 300 was nice tho. I’ve since sold the m10 and purchased a Hegel h120. Different class audio wise.
Joao Roman yes in my experience. The volume is definitely restricted by the BluOS software. Obviously if you have very good sensitivity speakers you won’t have a problem but with my Harbeth p3’s @83db I could max it out on quiet recordings. Dirac live also reduces the max volume to.
I did all my NAD M10 review searching back in December so I was a little late to see your review...but I really liked it! Thanks for putting this together and it was nice to see a different format than the other reviewers. Much appreciated.
Ron I bought this because of this review 4 months ago and love it. It's in my TV room with Xbox and the Bluesound Vault and the speakers are the Carnegie Acoustics Davanti I got from GR Research and Hsu 15 Subwoofer. In my main room I have the Parasound Halo A23 and P3 preamp with XLS ENCORE speakers and Bluesound Node. I'm thinking about mixing the two systems and putting the Parasound amplifier on the M10 with XLS. Or some other combo. Thanks for your help.
I'm eyeing the Bluesound Node 2i since I already have a pre- and power setup OR one of NAD's 7.1.4 capable AV receivers with BluOS and Dirac Live incorporated
Hey Ron, this was for sure one of your better reviews. I have to say with all the gear that you have heard, it says a lot when you are willing to splash down your own hard earned cash. On another note, I want to mention to all of the viewers out there to stay safe. Please stay at home as much as you can, and flatten the curve. God bless you all.
You should review the Naim Unity Atom. Very similar form factor and feature set. Less power (40w) as it's Class AB. My guess is it sounds better on speakers that don't need the additional power.
What do you think is the best speaker for an Nad m10?(Monitor audio, Dynaudio, Kef, Pmc, Dali, B&w....) It will be used in 4M x 6M space. I usually listen to Pop.
Let's not discount the fact this NAD uses hypex ncore for the amplifier and that's nothing to be sneezed at. The performance is so high that it can be very revealing and give the impression you think it's has flaws but it's the recordings, then once you get a good recording your jaw will drop. I don't yet own the M10, but have hypex ncore and a nad m51 DAC which I've been very happy with.
I now have had the m10 for over 2 years it's fantastic.was waiting to get speaker and sub placement optimal and room treatment before applying dirac. But a fantastic unit!
Would you advise buying an M10 V1 in 2023? (2nd hand). I'm in the market for a new amp (coming from a NAD C356bee) and I love the concept of an all in one with a display like the M10, like the Naim Unity Atom, like the Cambridge Audio Evo 75/150.
The M10 is absolutely unreal. Paired with a pair of Klipsch, and it works flawlessly. Its easy, the BluOS is simple, and it sounds amazing. Its expensive but its worth it
@@ep3578 very cool. I just ordered the M10 with the Heresy 4's in black ash from Crutchfield yesterday. I also ordered two Klipsch 10 inch subs. Are you running subs? I'm really not a base head so those might go back but I have heard both ways the 4 does and does not need subs.
@@tommarkosian2703 no subs. We upgraded after 20 years of having the high end polk stuff from the 1990’s. The three’s with the m10 definitely dont need subs in my opinion. I can only imagine the fours being the same as they are that much better. Our speakers arent in a massive room, but we use the m10 and BluOS to listen to music anywhere in the house. Speakers are crisp even when at 80% volume. Jealous u have the 4’s, cant justify getting them as our 3’s are less than 2 years old. Ull love how easy everything is, especially if ur a big tidal, spotify, apple music guy. And with a nice tv and 4k player? Like being at the theaters honestly. I highly recommend tying everything together, tv, m10/speakers/ 4k player if ur into that stuff
I've had mine for a couple months. Dirac is amazing. Takes it too another level and piece of mind that any new speaker (or power amp) I get I will use Dirac specifically for it getting the 'most' out of it. I Looking forward to trying a tube amp with it. But I do love the SUPER simple functionality. I just tap play on my Roon app (or blusound) and the music plays. No turning on anything. I press pause and it'll shut off on its own. That means a lot because I like to have music on even if I'm not in my listening position. It gives me everything. I could get a switcher for the Tube amp, that way I only use it for listening position time. Hifi is about listening to music and enjoying the heck out of it and for now at least, this gets me there with all the ease, function with pretty damn good sound quality. And the option to upgrade sound with the tube amp, upgrade speakers and even hire that Dirac software consultant to really dial it in (can also use a higher end mic in setup). The form and function are too good to ignore for real-life living rooms.
Thinking of pairing with the Buchardt S400 in my living room. Was thinking of doing separates but I really mostly stream Tidel so don't need much more. Then if I want later get a Tube or class A amp for a different sounded. Thanks Ron for another great review.
Great review. I looked at the m10 a while back but leaned away due to the class D amplification. Put an order in for a yamaha as801 recently but they are sold out in Canada. So asked the store what other lines they carried and NAD came up. So they special ordered the M10 for me ....can't wait
Right on the money with this review.Been using the M10 /m22 combo for almost a year and the M10 is just a great piece of gear. Does it do everything perfectly (no)but it gets enuff right.Coming from Parasound Halo gear and older NAD and Macintosh gear (mc2105/mx113) after buying the NAD Master gear my quest for new equipment might finally be over.
MrKimber. I have the M10 in the box and haven’t paired it with speakers as of yet. I’ve heard it auditioned and wondered if it would have enough power for me. So the possibility of adding the M22 has been one I’ve been thinking about. Glad to hear it’s a good match for the M10. The M22 has plenty of power and that opens up possibilities as far as speaker pairings. Can you tell me what speakers you’ve driven out of this combo? Thanks
@@neillicciardi2684 I rotate 3 sets - Buchardt 300MKII/S400 and Kef r300, all sound great with the S400 and R300 sounding the best to me. I also use a pair of KEF Kube 10b's.The M10 alone has more then enough power to drive the speakers listed, I just got a good deal on the M22 so I added it to the mix.
Thanks for the info. Yes, both the Buchardt and the R300 are of interest. In your opinion, would you say that the M10 would drive a tower well? Say for instance the Kef R700 or B&W 603?
@@neillicciardi2684 No first hand experience with two you have listed,but with the R700 being more sensitive then the R300 the M10 should have no problem driving it.With the S400 about the same sensitivity as the 603 it SHOULD be able to drive it.Hope this helps.
It does help; and thanks so much for your time. My gut tells me that S400 will give me that “live” sound that I’m looking for. It’s an impressive speaker if you listen to owners praise.
Hi Ron, the direct competitor is the Lyngdorf 1120, it has Room Perfect correction that is very well rated and even adopted by McIntosh. It will be available these days. The existing 2170 and 3400 give a int of what the 1120 is capable of. A future comparison would be great.
Hi Ron, great review and channel. It made me purchase one. I am very happy with it. However, I also bought it to listen to vinyl and I notice a great drop in the volume compared to streaming. I need to turn up the volume with about 20 points to get the same sound level. Any tips on improving the sound of vinyl? Current setup: M10 B&W 705 signature Rega P3 Rega fono mini pre amp Much appreciated if you could lead me in a direction. Thanks.
Sure! Sounds to me like hour phono might have a lower output than your other line level sources. This would require a different phono stage if that guy doesn’t offer more gain options or settings.
Best review on the M10 I have seen! I have a Bluesound Node 2i connected to a NAD C356BEE and the sound is amazing and of course I can stream from the bluOs app! My problem is will the M10 sound better than my old Amp with a class A/B amplifier? I have seen comments where the sound is not as good....love BluOS and would spend the money if I knew it was better on the M10. I have Warfedale diamond 10.7 floor speakers and my room is 14 X 14.
Ron, thanks for a great review on the NAD M10. I’m very seriously thinking of getting one. How do you think it would sound with a pair of Peachtree D5 (6 Ohm) speakers?
I have a Lumin steamer/DAC and use Roon with it. I miss a remote to switch to the next track, hate reaching for my tablet or phone with the glaring light. My logitech remote can do both bluetooth and wifi commands, so I don't understand why commands can't be implemented into the remote either by the manufacturer or Roon. Roon adding it makes more sense and I think it would be a good selling feature.
Thanks a lot for the honest review, checked some question I had. Still one remaining though: how about the analog inputs, are we still gonna be happy connecting our phono pre amp and listening to records, or is that a big no with this big digital small box?? Thanks in advance, Mike
I like what you have to say and appreciate the NAD. But a PS sprout 100 has form factor , muscle power, preamp out, flexible in connectivity and great sound... Plus a head phone out. add a rasbi pi... and you have endpoint... sprout doest has a dual sub out and an in built os...
I wonder if it is still better than the new Powernode with 80 watts coming out now in 2021though don't believe it has direc. Almost makes the M10 a little dated and in need of an upgrade as well. And just how much better is the Naim Atom at around $900 more ? Really understanable review thank you.
Dirac live is definitely the best room correction software out there! I just wanted to say I have their M17 V2 in my system and oh my gosh is that a beast. P.s. Dirac live works better with the more speakers you have set up as it uses multiphase adjustments. Oh yeah, and I love that ice cream analogy it really made me laugh.
I just remembered, dirac live can't fix everything when your speakers have a passive crossover as phase relationships change which is why I built my entire setup out of 3.5" BMR speakers in cabinets I designed. I use the same driver and cabinet for all 11 channels so I get that seamless panning and to allow for dirac live to do what it does best.
@@tassostsoutis601 No, depending on the genre or specific song I might choose to upmix it or play stereo (playing stereo with a dirac multispeaker system is basically just using the other speakers as room correction and sound stage fixing). Mostly I just upmix though. ;)
I'm a few months into M10 ownership now. Its replaced a Yamaha RN602 and before that a Yamaha N5600. So I've been on the net streamer bandwagon for a few years now. Yamaha provide good value, but the streaming environment is nowhere near as evolved as BluOS. And the sound quality of the RN602 is not in the same league as the M10. At a different price point mind, but the I feel the M10 represents much better value, despite the significantly gap in cost. No doubt there will be a move by many into this space in future, but right now, I believe the M10 is close to the ultimate expression of the lifestyle net streamer of all the products I considered based on its all round performance, not one or two highlights. It sounds great, has plenty of power, Dirac elevates the sound further, pretty much all the music ever made is at your fingertips, all in a tiny package. How could it possibly be better? Worth pointing out an M10 update has been announced. It adds a remote, some additional channels which required a different DAC, some other bits and pieces including a correction to the way the sub out works in what look to be mainly software updates. Its not been reviewed yet, but one wonders if this if an upgrade or simply feature creep.
Hey Ron, great video! I need your help! Today I have a Yamaha AS-2100. What would you say is the best option, the Yamaha with a bluesound Node 2i or the M10? I will mainly stream music, no vinyl or CD. The speakers I will use is the B&W 705s2 signature Kind regards
@@Newrecordday2013 Even if I have a small room that is hard to sound good? Thinking about the Dirac feature 🤔 Would you say there is more power in the Yamaha?
So I have a weird question, what stand is that you have the M10 on? I have an M10 and am looking for something just like that but can't find anything similar. Thanks for the review.
I bought this for my overnight apartment with the 0.7 Magnaplanar. Very satisfied after I did the DIREC calibration (night and day difference). I plan to add two subs next month. Looking at SVS B4000. Any other sub you think would be better?
Those are killer subs! Hey, make sure you mess with the Dirac curtains so you are only addressing bass frequencies. This will give you clarity and spatial cues up top!
In ascending price points...BlueOS (powernode 2), Naim, Mytek digital, and Linn all have similar feature sets. The Linn is one of those needs a dedicated room level pieces, but I’d be interesting to compare the Naim and Mytek in a shootout.
its quite a interesting product, but its small and people in nearfield would enjoy a volume knob for sure. at 8:37 there is some option i have questions on: 1: dirac and eq, i do not like microphones so i was wondering if the is a way to adjust a parametric eq after my own ears using with a tone generator? 2: subwoofers outputs, are those configurable to stereo and mono? if i want to use high bandwidth subwoofers i need stereo signal for example at 200hz. 3: the crossover, that slider on the screen going from 40hz to 200hz is that the highpass to the main speakers? or both.
Did you have any issues with the software? I keep reading some users having issues with the screen when streaming etc. I am interested in the M33 but due to the virus I don't think NAD will release it this month or next month.
Can anybody tell me some experience about warming and heating the unit? I see plenty of comments online about that issue. It'd a D class but warms more than some of A class
Very good! I’ve heard more detail out of them in other rigs and heard a little more resolution with my main rig, but this would be a great amp for anyone considering the Oticas!
Anyone using Bluetooth APTX HD headphones to game or watch movies from a PC or console through the M10? Just concerned about latency with no headphone amp built in.
A solid amplifier that will depreciate massively and be obsolete in 5 years because of the technology tied to it. Separate your source from your power. I look forward to picking these up for $350 on eBay in 4-5 years.
Pepsiaddicto Not necessarily. You can always add a new source as there are inputs for it - both analog and digital. Also, Dirac is as good as you can get now and a new source would not include DSP. It’s just FUD
It would be my perfect component if it was just a bit more powerful. Bel Canto S300 & Red Dragon S500 are examples of compact class D components with 150-250wpc & I wish NAD had made the M10 with that kind of power.
Great review. I have had the M10 since last June. I had test driven countless setups for hours on my HECO Direkts and really didn’t want to love the m10. After many hours it was a the clear winner even against system 3 times its price. Quick question for you. Where did you find the wooden platter you have the m10 on? Thanks for the review. I’m new to the channel and look forward to going back and watching more.
Great review of M10. Support! Would you have a review for NAD C658? I am playing Vinyl and CD in tube amp for ATC speaker. I want to add a streamer with DAC into my 2 channel system and can use roon/bluOS/MQA for another sound source. Pls advise your comment.
How was the pairing with the ub5? I’ve been looking at something like this to power my 2.0 home theater. I’m not sure what competitors would be cheaper than the M10 with a similar feature set - both the Naim Atom and Arcam SA30 are more money.
Ive got the NAD388 with the UB5's the performance is amazing, it wows every time I listen. Note that the UB5, as you may know, need a bit of volume to open up. Love my set up. My room is 16'x13' and it definitely does not need a sub with the UB5 towers.
Ciao Ron. Interesting review. Was looking forward to it. It would be nice to hear to what you d compare it and what are the better sounding alternative for the price if you know any. I think only Naim has something similar with less watts which can strangely sound more punchier. I have owned the M10 for a year now, I was lucky enough to buy it off from a friend at 1100 usd and it replaced a combo pc+Audiolab DAC+nuforce power amp which in fact new wouldn t cost you less and didn t sound nearly as good + it wasn t so practical either. Here in Hong Kong when you pay premium for space this is a fantastic solution, practical and great sounding if you think how many components it replaces. Zero fidelity described the sound very well so I won’t go into it. I saw a review on stereophile and this little toy of an integrated amp benched 300watts per channel instead of the conservative 100w Nad rates. I recently paired it with the new wharfedale evo 4 series, the tower 4.3 to be precise, which to me are the new elac debut of this class and sounded better to my ears than speakers up to 2 times the price. Hope you can check out the wharfedale even though I m not sure whether they sell them or not in the US.
Savan Panchal I think they pair well with the Nad being it extremely neutral. The separation and clarity are great with this amp and so is the bass control. It can sound a bit dry with voices though and a bit too “polite” , given the extremely high amount of power it benched that came as a surprise to me. I m very happy of the purchase but if you like extremely warm midrange (which our speakers already offer) I d suggest to check out the Naim or the Hegel.
massimiliano zeni - I am trying to figure out btw two floor speakers - martin logan motion 40i vs wharfdale evo 4.4 and dumb but I need white speakers and seeing which speakers sounds more warm and neutral and I can listen for hours.
@@Newrecordday2013 thank you, would you see M10 a good fit to Buchardt S400? I heard they demand a good match to sound good. In fact I received them last night but do not have an amp to connect them to, my old Sony can only handle 8ohm to 16. This NAD is very attractive but not sure about quality sound. Recently I came across with reviews of IOTA's both units SA3 and PA3 paired together, people were quite excited about matching with S400.
Hello Ron. Please help me. Have focals 615 and svs sb12-nsd. Want to change old denon for my birthday. There are 3 options. "Yamaha rn803", "Cambridge ax61" and "NAD M10". I have money even for NAD but question is if it is it worth 3 times money. Please, need ur personal opinion about products
I can’t describe how much much I love the m10 - I won’t be letting mine go anytime soon! It’s such a great sounding and insanely versatile amplifier. That’s the one I would recommend - honestly!
New Record Day thanks a lot for quick answer. So...now...I have to made my decision between NAD M10 and few months old Hegel H90 that I have for 1250e. What do u think
I have the M10. It broke after 13 months and the company seems unwilling or unable to repair or replace it in a timely manner. The customer service is best described as laughable. I’d look for a product produced by a company that respects their customers, provides reliable products, and honors their warranties.
@@Newrecordday2013 out of curiosity, have you ever compared audio streaming from a receiver like the NAD T778 to this M10 for example, or even an Anthem MRX 1120? is there a major difference in sound quality? thanks
Why aren't these higher-cost units with bigger displays not using OLED? I can't stand the light bleed/ not untrue black displays. There is a lot of wasted display space that remains (black/ no light) unused. It makes it just look cheap and like an amazon echo device(cheap-looking). (LOOKS) For the price of this, I'd hope they used OLED and not TFT. IT would have made this display disappear into the all black gloss bezels wouldn't you think?
oled har burn in issues, i won't consider oled on anything until they fix that. even lcd can burn in is samsung makes the panel, so oled is surely out of the question.
@@sudd3660 < Interesting, But the artwork and numbers are changing all the time on this panel so the chances of that are probably very low. But it is still worth noting. I wonder how far Micro LED is coming along? That is also another possible replacement for these cheap LCD panels.
Nad C658 no big front display but pre/Streamer/Dac/MM/Roon/MQA/Dirac expansion slots for HDMI etc $1650 or Bluesound Node2i $500.This is a box for your grandfather
It's a nice device but I see it more as a lifestyle product (in the Sonos vibe) than an audiophile product. Who's the potential buyer of this NAD?? Average Joes who want "simple integrated things" will never pay $3k for an audio device so this NAD is clearly not for them. People like us who are used to pay thousands of dollars for an audio device (audiophiles) don't care too much about "simple integrated things" and even less about "lifestyle" products so this NAD is not for them either. The only market left is rich people... rich people love expensive lifestyle products like this NAD, yes... but they don't give a s*** about NAD!!! They want Sonos, Bang&Olufsen, Apple and that kind of trendy/luxurious brands... so... what's the market for this NAD?
With that attitude young people will never get into hi-fi. They want lifestyle products like this. I've gotten both my son and daughter into music. When my daughter moves out, I am sure she wouldn't buy a system like I have. Not to mention the space that's needed.
People in middle class that seek a stylish, capable, and simple home office system is the market for this. Me, that is. If there was no market, I hardly think there would be as many comments on this thread, as well as, the many other online reviews of the M10.
Get my M10 V3 tomorrow. Can[t wait to set it up and use it!
Thanks Ron, @UCFnhdh4Hj78gtRtreOR9OzQ ..I took the plunge and bought this little magic box in the used market...absolutely love the sound and the aesthetics..That Dirac is a great addition..it makes the bass so much better in my room(I listened without and had my ears constantly blocked..now I don't )..and all that in 15 mins..no moving the sub from corner to corner!
It is not the laid back sound of my 1st NAD product back in those days,Direct digital C390DD...these amps do come alive..Also small design details like play after pause of songs doesn't blare but ramps up..Nice. or the amp standby and instant wake up..no switching on 4 boxes to listen to music..Nicer. Great video above ..(y)
Not saying Bluesound NODE 2i is a rival, but with 500$ you get: flexible connectivity, form factor, Roon Ready, BlueOS, Preamp out and MQA Support
Great review. Had my M10 12 months now and currently experimenting with power amps via the pre outs just well, because. But if your after an all in one that does basically everything I highly recommend it. Dirac is fantastic with my room.
What conclusion did u reach about the power amps? Are u using any?
Joao Roman I ended up using the internal amp of the m10 due to the built in software of the m10 volume limited the actual power/volume of the power amps. The ps audio stellar 300 was nice tho. I’ve since sold the m10 and purchased a Hegel h120. Different class audio wise.
Stuart Shuck oh, so with a power amp connected to the m10, u cant use the power amp to its full potential?
Joao Roman yes in my experience. The volume is definitely restricted by the BluOS software. Obviously if you have very good sensitivity speakers you won’t have a problem but with my Harbeth p3’s @83db I could max it out on quiet recordings. Dirac live also reduces the max volume to.
Stuart Shuck ye 83 is low enough.. maybe bi amping could be the best solution there, if adding another amp to the M10
I did all my NAD M10 review searching back in December so I was a little late to see your review...but I really liked it! Thanks for putting this together and it was nice to see a different format than the other reviewers. Much appreciated.
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Ron I bought this because of this review 4 months ago and love it. It's in my TV room with Xbox and the Bluesound Vault and the speakers are the Carnegie Acoustics Davanti I got from GR Research and Hsu 15 Subwoofer. In my main room I have the Parasound Halo A23 and P3 preamp with XLS ENCORE speakers and Bluesound Node. I'm thinking about mixing the two systems and putting the Parasound amplifier on the M10 with XLS. Or some other combo. Thanks for your help.
I'm eyeing the Bluesound Node 2i since I already have a pre- and power setup OR one of NAD's 7.1.4 capable AV receivers with BluOS and Dirac Live incorporated
I love these episodes! Thanks new record day. :)
Thanks man!
Hey Ron, this was for sure one of your better reviews. I have to say with all the gear that you have heard, it says a lot when you are willing to splash down your own hard earned cash.
On another note, I want to mention to all of the viewers out there to stay safe. Please stay at home as much as you can, and flatten the curve. God bless you all.
You should review the Naim Unity Atom. Very similar form factor and feature set. Less power (40w) as it's Class AB. My guess is it sounds better on speakers that don't need the additional power.
Thanks for this review, I just bought an M10! What is the stand you have it on?
What do you think is the best speaker for an Nad m10?(Monitor audio, Dynaudio, Kef, Pmc, Dali, B&w....)
It will be used in 4M x 6M space.
I usually listen to Pop.
I have triangle bookshelf speakers.
Let's not discount the fact this NAD uses hypex ncore for the amplifier and that's nothing to be sneezed at. The performance is so high that it can be very revealing and give the impression you think it's has flaws but it's the recordings, then once you get a good recording your jaw will drop.
I don't yet own the M10, but have hypex ncore and a nad m51 DAC which I've been very happy with.
I now have had the m10 for over 2 years it's fantastic.was waiting to get speaker and sub placement optimal and room treatment before applying dirac. But a fantastic unit!
Would you advise buying an M10 V1 in 2023? (2nd hand). I'm in the market for a new amp (coming from a NAD C356bee) and I love the concept of an all in one with a display like the M10, like the Naim Unity Atom, like the Cambridge Audio Evo 75/150.
The M10 is absolutely unreal. Paired with a pair of Klipsch, and it works flawlessly. Its easy, the BluOS is simple, and it sounds amazing. Its expensive but its worth it
Which Klipsch are you using
@@tommarkosian2703 heresy iii’s in the black ash. Been thinking of the iv’s because they sound even better with the m10. Either way, u cant go wrong
@@ep3578 very cool. I just ordered the M10 with the Heresy 4's in black ash from Crutchfield yesterday. I also ordered two Klipsch 10 inch subs. Are you running subs? I'm really not a base head so those might go back but I have heard both ways the 4 does and does not need subs.
@@tommarkosian2703 no subs. We upgraded after 20 years of having the high end polk stuff from the 1990’s. The three’s with the m10 definitely dont need subs in my opinion. I can only imagine the fours being the same as they are that much better. Our speakers arent in a massive room, but we use the m10 and BluOS to listen to music anywhere in the house. Speakers are crisp even when at 80% volume. Jealous u have the 4’s, cant justify getting them as our 3’s are less than 2 years old. Ull love how easy everything is, especially if ur a big tidal, spotify, apple music guy. And with a nice tv and 4k player? Like being at the theaters honestly. I highly recommend tying everything together, tv, m10/speakers/ 4k player if ur into that stuff
I've had mine for a couple months. Dirac is amazing. Takes it too another level and piece of mind that any new speaker (or power amp) I get I will use Dirac specifically for it getting the 'most' out of it. I Looking forward to trying a tube amp with it. But I do love the SUPER simple functionality. I just tap play on my Roon app (or blusound) and the music plays. No turning on anything. I press pause and it'll shut off on its own. That means a lot because I like to have music on even if I'm not in my listening position. It gives me everything.
I could get a switcher for the Tube amp, that way I only use it for listening position time.
Hifi is about listening to music and enjoying the heck out of it and for now at least, this gets me there with all the ease, function with pretty damn good sound quality. And the option to upgrade sound with the tube amp, upgrade speakers and even hire that Dirac software consultant to really dial it in (can also use a higher end mic in setup). The form and function are too good to ignore for real-life living rooms.
Can you tell me your experience about warming the unit? I see plenty of comments that the box is too hot for class D amp
@@jolle1984van mine I on top of the console unit so I never noticed.
@@derekviveiros2628 Also I play it for many hours a day, no issue.
Thinking of pairing with the Buchardt S400 in my living room. Was thinking of doing separates but I really mostly stream Tidel so don't need much more. Then if I want later get a Tube or class A amp for a different sounded. Thanks Ron for another great review.
The NAD10 is the best soundsystem I have ever bought.
stop teasing 🙂
@@tomaskroupakkfoto4132 No. It's not.
Great review. I looked at the m10 a while back but leaned away due to the class D amplification. Put an order in for a yamaha as801 recently but they are sold out in Canada. So asked the store what other lines they carried and NAD came up. So they special ordered the M10 for me ....can't wait
I’m curious how this compares to the Yamaha RN 2000a anyone?
Well this looks great. I am and oldtimer where big back in the days was the norm. This will save some marriges :-)
Right on the money with this review.Been using the M10 /m22 combo for almost a year and the M10 is just a great piece of gear.
Does it do everything perfectly (no)but it gets enuff right.Coming from Parasound Halo gear and older NAD and Macintosh gear (mc2105/mx113) after buying the NAD Master gear my quest for new equipment might finally be over.
MrKimber. I have the M10 in the box and haven’t paired it with speakers as of yet. I’ve heard it auditioned and wondered if it would have enough power for me. So the possibility of adding the M22 has been one I’ve been thinking about. Glad to hear it’s a good match for the M10. The M22 has plenty of power and that opens up possibilities as far as speaker pairings. Can you tell me what speakers you’ve driven out of this combo? Thanks
@@neillicciardi2684 I rotate 3 sets - Buchardt 300MKII/S400 and Kef r300, all sound great with the S400 and R300 sounding the best to me. I also use a pair of KEF Kube 10b's.The M10 alone has more then enough power to drive the speakers listed, I just got a good deal on the M22 so I added it to the mix.
Thanks for the info. Yes, both the Buchardt and the R300 are of interest. In your opinion, would you say that the M10 would drive a tower well? Say for instance the Kef R700 or B&W 603?
@@neillicciardi2684 No first hand experience with two you have listed,but with the R700 being more sensitive then the R300 the M10 should have no problem driving it.With the S400 about the same sensitivity as the 603 it SHOULD be able to drive it.Hope this helps.
It does help; and thanks so much for your time. My gut tells me that S400 will give me that “live” sound that I’m looking for. It’s an impressive speaker if you listen to owners praise.
Bluesound NODE 2i, Naim Uniti Atom or NAD M10?
Hi Ron, the direct competitor is the Lyngdorf 1120, it has Room Perfect correction that is very well rated and even adopted by McIntosh. It will be available these days. The existing 2170 and 3400 give a int of what the 1120 is capable of. A future comparison would be great.
Hi Ron, great review and channel. It made me purchase one. I am very happy with it. However, I also bought it to listen to vinyl and I notice a great drop in the volume compared to streaming. I need to turn up the volume with about 20 points to get the same sound level. Any tips on improving the sound of vinyl? Current setup:
M10
B&W 705 signature
Rega P3
Rega fono mini pre amp
Much appreciated if you could lead me in a direction.
Thanks.
Sure! Sounds to me like hour phono might have a lower output than your other line level sources. This would require a different phono stage if that guy doesn’t offer more gain options or settings.
@@Newrecordday2013 thanks!
Best review on the M10 I have seen! I have a Bluesound Node 2i connected to a NAD C356BEE and the sound is amazing and of course I can stream from the bluOs app! My problem is will the M10 sound better than my old Amp with a class A/B amplifier? I have seen comments where the sound is not as good....love BluOS and would spend the money if I knew it was better on the M10. I have Warfedale diamond 10.7 floor speakers and my room is 14 X 14.
Ron, thanks for a great review on the NAD M10. I’m very seriously thinking of getting one. How do you think it would sound with a pair of Peachtree D5 (6 Ohm) speakers?
Should be a great match!
Brewing on the M10 with KEF R3 speakers (as opposed to LS50 MK2) , any thoughts? Thanks for the review
Ron - A-S2100 plus a Node 2i
That’s fair!
I have a Lumin steamer/DAC and use Roon with it. I miss a remote to switch to the next track, hate reaching for my tablet or phone with the glaring light. My logitech remote can do both bluetooth and wifi commands, so I don't understand why commands can't be implemented into the remote either by the manufacturer or Roon. Roon adding it makes more sense and I think it would be a good selling feature.
Again, great review format for all the features. And hre is my question: Can it drive rhe Magnepan .7i? Or should I just try de Hegel H120?
Thanks a lot for the honest review, checked some question I had.
Still one remaining though: how about the analog inputs, are we still gonna be happy connecting our phono pre amp and listening to records, or is that a big no with this big digital small box?? Thanks in advance, Mike
, another fantastic review Ron this one was very smooth and quickly I think it was also a different style? The 10 things it does fantastic
Ron. Considering the NAD M10. I've built Danny's upgraded XLS Encores. Do you think they would pair well? Thx
I like what you have to say and appreciate the NAD. But a PS sprout 100 has form factor , muscle power, preamp out, flexible in connectivity and great sound... Plus a head phone out. add a rasbi pi... and you have endpoint... sprout doest has a dual sub out and an in built os...
I wonder if it is still better than the new Powernode with 80 watts coming out now in 2021though don't believe it has direc. Almost makes the M10 a little dated and in need of an upgrade as well. And just how much better is the Naim Atom at around $900 more ? Really understanable review thank you.
Dirac live is definitely the best room correction software out there! I just wanted to say I have their M17 V2 in my system and oh my gosh is that a beast. P.s. Dirac live works better with the more speakers you have set up as it uses multiphase adjustments. Oh yeah, and I love that ice cream analogy it really made me laugh.
I just remembered, dirac live can't fix everything when your speakers have a passive crossover as phase relationships change which is why I built my entire setup out of 3.5" BMR speakers in cabinets I designed. I use the same driver and cabinet for all 11 channels so I get that seamless panning and to allow for dirac live to do what it does best.
@@lio1234234 So do you play music in that set up or just for movies?
@@tassostsoutis601 Both. :)
@@lio1234234 So when you play music two of the speakers are only working?
@@tassostsoutis601 No, depending on the genre or specific song I might choose to upmix it or play stereo (playing stereo with a dirac multispeaker system is basically just using the other speakers as room correction and sound stage fixing). Mostly I just upmix though. ;)
Would you take this over the schiit gear? If you were to personally own either
I'm a few months into M10 ownership now. Its replaced a Yamaha RN602 and before that a Yamaha N5600. So I've been on the net streamer bandwagon for a few years now. Yamaha provide good value, but the streaming environment is nowhere near as evolved as BluOS. And the sound quality of the RN602 is not in the same league as the M10. At a different price point mind, but the I feel the M10 represents much better value, despite the significantly gap in cost.
No doubt there will be a move by many into this space in future, but right now, I believe the M10 is close to the ultimate expression of the lifestyle net streamer of all the products I considered based on its all round performance, not one or two highlights. It sounds great, has plenty of power, Dirac elevates the sound further, pretty much all the music ever made is at your fingertips, all in a tiny package. How could it possibly be better?
Worth pointing out an M10 update has been announced. It adds a remote, some additional channels which required a different DAC, some other bits and pieces including a correction to the way the sub out works in what look to be mainly software updates. Its not been reviewed yet, but one wonders if this if an upgrade or simply feature creep.
M10's featureset is the real deal. hope to get one soooon.
Hey Ron, great video! I need your help! Today I have a Yamaha AS-2100. What would you say is the best option, the Yamaha with a bluesound Node 2i or the M10? I will mainly stream music, no vinyl or CD.
The speakers I will use is the B&W 705s2 signature
Kind regards
I’d imagine the Yamaha + blue node might end up sounding better!
@@Newrecordday2013 Even if I have a small room that is hard to sound good? Thinking about the Dirac feature 🤔 Would you say there is more power in the Yamaha?
So I have a weird question, what stand is that you have the M10 on? I have an M10 and am looking for something just like that but can't find anything similar. Thanks for the review.
I made it.
Well damn I hadn't considered that possibility 😅
I bought this for my overnight apartment with the 0.7 Magnaplanar. Very satisfied after I did the DIREC calibration (night and day difference). I plan to add two subs next month. Looking at SVS B4000. Any other sub you think would be better?
Those are killer subs! Hey, make sure you mess with the Dirac curtains so you are only addressing bass frequencies. This will give you clarity and spatial cues up top!
Thanks, will do
What speakers did you use other than the SVSs?
In ascending price points...BlueOS (powernode 2), Naim, Mytek digital, and Linn all have similar feature sets. The Linn is one of those needs a dedicated room level pieces, but I’d be interesting to compare the Naim and Mytek in a shootout.
Maybe check out John Darko's RUclips review of the M10. I think he references the Naim unit as a comparison.
I LOVE your channel. So informative. Keep em comin’!
Thanks man! Appreciate that!
just ordered one to pair with my sonus faber sonetto 1 to replace a sonos amp.
its quite a interesting product, but its small and people in nearfield would enjoy a volume knob for sure.
at 8:37 there is some option i have questions on:
1: dirac and eq, i do not like microphones so i was wondering if the is a way to adjust a parametric eq after my own ears using with a tone generator?
2: subwoofers outputs, are those configurable to stereo and mono? if i want to use high bandwidth subwoofers i need stereo signal for example at 200hz.
3: the crossover, that slider on the screen going from 40hz to 200hz is that the highpass to the main speakers? or both.
Did you have any issues with the software? I keep reading some users having issues with the screen when streaming etc. I am interested in the M33 but due to the virus I don't think NAD will release it this month or next month.
No, and I use it quite often. I have not had one issue with it. If I had, I would have said something for sure!
@@Newrecordday2013 maybe it is just user error with the people who have issues with NAD products?
Maybe?!
no issue for 11 months
Do you experience some heating of amp. There are plenty comments online that is warm or even hot after hour of use. For class D that is unexeptable
Can anybody tell me some experience about warming and heating the unit? I see plenty of comments online about that issue. It'd a D class but warms more than some of A class
And so, how did the M10 sound paired with the NX-Oticas?
Very good! I’ve heard more detail out of them in other rigs and heard a little more resolution with my main rig, but this would be a great amp for anyone considering the Oticas!
@@Newrecordday2013 Thank you !
Thanks for a great review. But I dont think its recommended to use one more M10 as a mono setup. This because of the delay on the analog input.
Anyone using Bluetooth APTX HD headphones to game or watch movies from a PC or console through the M10? Just concerned about latency with no headphone amp built in.
Where did u got that wood base/support for the m10?
A solid amplifier that will depreciate massively and be obsolete in 5 years because of the technology tied to it. Separate your source from your power. I look forward to picking these up for $350 on eBay in 4-5 years.
If it’s going to be obsolete why would you look forward to buying one in 5 years?
@@Ineedtotakeabreak 😬
Pepsiaddicto Not necessarily. You can always add a new source as there are inputs for it - both analog and digital. Also, Dirac is as good as you can get now and a new source would not include DSP. It’s just FUD
It would be my perfect component if it was just a bit more powerful. Bel Canto S300 & Red Dragon S500 are examples of compact class D components with 150-250wpc & I wish NAD had made the M10 with that kind of power.
This or HifiRose 201E?
Great review. I have had the M10 since last June. I had test driven countless setups for hours on my HECO Direkts and really didn’t want to love the m10. After many hours it was a the clear winner even against system 3 times its price. Quick question for you. Where did you find the wooden platter you have the m10 on?
Thanks for the review. I’m new to the channel and look forward to going back and watching more.
Thanks! I made the amp stand.
New Record Day it’s looks great. What did you use for the feet if you don’t mind me asking?
Great review of M10. Support! Would you have a review for NAD C658? I am playing Vinyl and CD in tube amp for ATC speaker. I want to add a streamer with DAC into my 2 channel system and can use roon/bluOS/MQA for another sound source. Pls advise your comment.
How was the pairing with the ub5? I’ve been looking at something like this to power my 2.0 home theater. I’m not sure what competitors would be cheaper than the M10 with a similar feature set - both the Naim Atom and Arcam SA30 are more money.
Very good with the UB5! Highly recommended!
Ive got the NAD388 with the UB5's the performance is amazing, it wows every time I listen. Note that the UB5, as you may know, need a bit of volume to open up. Love my set up. My room is 16'x13' and it definitely does not need a sub with the UB5 towers.
Great channel Ron, a fan from New Zealand
Will this one be able to drive the Focal Scala Utopia?
Great overview...thanks....subscribed
Welcome aboard Mike!
Ciao Ron. Interesting review. Was looking forward to it. It would be nice to hear to what you d compare it and what are the better sounding alternative for the price if you know any. I think only Naim has something similar with less watts which can strangely sound more punchier. I have owned the M10 for a year now, I was lucky enough to buy it off from a friend at 1100 usd and it replaced a combo pc+Audiolab DAC+nuforce power amp which in fact new wouldn t cost you less and didn t sound nearly as good + it wasn t so practical either. Here in Hong Kong when you pay premium for space this is a fantastic solution, practical and great sounding if you think how many components it replaces. Zero fidelity described the sound very well so I won’t go into it. I saw a review on stereophile and this little toy of an integrated amp benched 300watts per channel instead of the conservative 100w Nad rates. I recently paired it with the new wharfedale evo 4 series, the tower 4.3 to be precise, which to me are the new elac debut of this class and sounded better to my ears than speakers up to 2 times the price. Hope you can check out the wharfedale even though I m not sure whether they sell them or not in the US.
massimiliano zeni just read comment. Thinking of buying this amp to pair with Evo 4.4
Savan Panchal I think they pair well with the Nad being it extremely neutral. The separation and clarity are great with this amp and so is the bass control. It can sound a bit dry with voices though and a bit too “polite” , given the extremely high amount of power it benched that came as a surprise to me. I m very happy of the purchase but if you like extremely warm midrange (which our speakers already offer) I d suggest to check out the Naim or the Hegel.
I have looked at both Naim and Hegel. Hegel just does not offer much streaming options - love Bluesound and Naim is getting expensive.
@@savanp228try it out then! it might not be to your taste but for sure it won t disappoint you. what are you running now?
massimiliano zeni - I am trying to figure out btw two floor speakers - martin logan motion 40i vs wharfdale evo 4.4 and dumb but I need white speakers and seeing which speakers sounds more warm and neutral and I can listen for hours.
How would those pair with the kef ls50?
The M10 often has issues with the display
Great NRD review. Thanks!
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NAD M10 or Advance Paris Myconnect 150 to be paired with Buchardt S400? Thanks
Of the two, I’ve only spent time with the m10 so I don’t know...
@@Newrecordday2013 thank you, would you see M10 a good fit to Buchardt S400? I heard they demand a good match to sound good. In fact I received them last night but do not have an amp to connect them to, my old Sony can only handle 8ohm to 16. This NAD is very attractive but not sure about quality sound. Recently I came across with reviews of IOTA's both units SA3 and PA3 paired together, people were quite excited about matching with S400.
@@aurelianmarin6494 So what did you do? I know this is from 4 years ago lol
What were those subs you showed this video?
Hello Ron. Please help me. Have focals 615 and svs sb12-nsd. Want to change old denon for my birthday. There are 3 options. "Yamaha rn803", "Cambridge ax61" and "NAD M10".
I have money even for NAD but question is if it is it worth 3 times money. Please, need ur personal opinion about products
I can’t describe how much much I love the m10 - I won’t be letting mine go anytime soon! It’s such a great sounding and insanely versatile amplifier. That’s the one I would recommend - honestly!
New Record Day thanks a lot for quick answer. So...now...I have to made my decision between NAD M10 and few months old Hegel H90 that I have for 1250e. What do u think
Boy was I surprised to see a local company. Are you in Western MA?
Actually I’m locating in AZ! Thanks for watching!
Love the reviews, nice work.
btw Ron, how's your mac mini music server project coming along? Look forward to a comparison, thks
Waiting on the upgraded Mac mini! Should be pretty soon!
Hey Ron, great review. I missed one part: The VU meters
Argh! How could I miss that!!!
I have the M10. It broke after 13 months and the company seems unwilling or unable to repair or replace it in a timely manner. The customer service is best described as laughable. I’d look for a product produced by a company that respects their customers, provides reliable products, and honors their warranties.
That’s lousy to hear. What exactly broke?
@@cpg8000 broken amp modules
@@adammandel5216 its a hypex 252MP ncore class d module not that expensive or hard to get.
can this power PSB Imagine T2's or will it need external power amp?
Should be just fine!
@@Newrecordday2013 out of curiosity, have you ever compared audio streaming from a receiver like the NAD T778 to this M10 for example, or even an Anthem MRX 1120? is there a major difference in sound quality? thanks
Naim Unity Atom.
We all could have lived without the first 1:50 mins of your video …
I’ve been looking for the guy who is in charge of speaking for everyone. Glad I finally found him!
Why aren't these higher-cost units with bigger displays not using OLED? I can't stand the light bleed/ not untrue black displays. There is a lot of wasted display space that remains (black/ no light) unused. It makes it just look cheap and like an amazon echo device(cheap-looking). (LOOKS) For the price of this, I'd hope they used OLED and not TFT. IT would have made this display disappear into the all black gloss bezels wouldn't you think?
oled har burn in issues, i won't consider oled on anything until they fix that. even lcd can burn in is samsung makes the panel, so oled is surely out of the question.
@@sudd3660 < Interesting, But the artwork and numbers are changing all the time on this panel so the chances of that are probably very low. But it is still worth noting. I wonder how far Micro LED is coming along? That is also another possible replacement for these cheap LCD panels.
My toe hurts
Nad C658 no big front display but pre/Streamer/Dac/MM/Roon/MQA/Dirac expansion slots for HDMI etc $1650 or Bluesound Node2i $500.This is a box for your grandfather
C658 is a cool piece!
Naim Atom
What about it ?
@@paulgillard5094 It sounds better.
It's a nice device but I see it more as a lifestyle product (in the Sonos vibe) than an audiophile product. Who's the potential buyer of this NAD?? Average Joes who want "simple integrated things" will never pay $3k for an audio device so this NAD is clearly not for them. People like us who are used to pay thousands of dollars for an audio device (audiophiles) don't care too much about "simple integrated things" and even less about "lifestyle" products so this NAD is not for them either. The only market left is rich people... rich people love expensive lifestyle products like this NAD, yes... but they don't give a s*** about NAD!!! They want Sonos, Bang&Olufsen, Apple and that kind of trendy/luxurious brands... so... what's the market for this NAD?
With that attitude young people will never get into hi-fi. They want lifestyle products like this. I've gotten both my son and daughter into music. When my daughter moves out, I am sure she wouldn't buy a system like I have. Not to mention the space that's needed.
People in middle class that seek a stylish, capable, and simple home office system is the market for this. Me, that is.
If there was no market, I hardly think there would be as many comments on this thread, as well as, the many other online reviews of the M10.
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