The NAD M10 V2 is EVERYTHING

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  • Опубликовано: 1 дек 2024

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  • @DarkoAudio
    @DarkoAudio  2 года назад +7

    PLEASE READ *before commenting*!
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  • @aceofspades6667
    @aceofspades6667 2 года назад +49

    Darko and Andrew continue doing "god's work" for audiophiles... The camera shots, lighting, room quality, and review content are just top notch between both of these channels!

  • @catherinelugg4321
    @catherinelugg4321 2 года назад +24

    This is a GREAT review. Thank you for talking about the NAD in conjunction with a TV, etc. I spend most of my free time listening to music. But we just picked up an OLED (LG), and would adore watching concerts. You've given me a LOT to think about. Thanks!

    • @merrillaldrich9170
      @merrillaldrich9170 2 года назад +2

      We use our setup in much the way you describe - mostly for music, but also to watch a lot of concerts and livestreams. Hifi and TV and the internet together is a great combination these days.

    • @IGBPI314
      @IGBPI314 2 года назад +2

      I use the M10v2 in conjunction with a recently acquired philips TV via HDMI eArc integration. Mostly the auto-sensing works, nnit always.. but 9 out of 10. Recently discovered: There is aneat trick the M10v2 can do: Learn remotes..so when we switch on the TV now the M10v2 goes automatically into HDMI eArc mode.. works like a charm so far..

  • @markusschulzbro
    @markusschulzbro 2 года назад +11

    Thank you for great review! Glad to see Terry! Would be nice to see more of these collaborations with others RUclipsrs :)

  • @shemsureshot
    @shemsureshot 2 года назад +13

    I did a home trail of the Nad M10 V2 with the powernode driving the rear surrounds in a 4.1 set up. I can confirm Dirac will only calibrate the front speakers and the sub. You will have to manually measure the rear surrounds yourself using the bluesound app. I thought to mention this as I can see people are asking.

  • @TomosFlynn
    @TomosFlynn 2 года назад +4

    I love that with your videos I feel like I'm watching a series, not just reviews in isolation. Not only does every episode have a story, those stories are interconnected.
    Truly John is levels above any other audio youtuber.

  • @rameshsathiah1348
    @rameshsathiah1348 2 года назад +8

    Love your reviews. So balanced, and you are an audiophile who doesn't buy into the audiophile BS. I had a NAD M33 and I recently downsized the M10 V2. Honestly it sounds as good, am totally blown away with the unit. So much power, flawless operation. I had a Naim Uniti Nova before and it was hopeless with HDMI and no room correction.

    • @user-ma8ax0as4n
      @user-ma8ax0as4n 2 года назад

      What can you say how Good is m10v2 to m33? I have too m33

    • @CedricRachmad
      @CedricRachmad 2 года назад

      I can get a great deal on a M12. You think the M10 will be as good?

    • @wvansluisveld3011
      @wvansluisveld3011 2 года назад

      @@CedricRachmad if you don't need the connections or future upgradeability with MDC slots (which are now being replaced with MDC2 anyway) I think it is worth the consideration.

    • @shelloiluk
      @shelloiluk 9 месяцев назад

      Im looking at NAIM star vx NAD M10 any thoughts?

    • @MegaEldude
      @MegaEldude Месяц назад

      ​@shelloiluk go and have a listen. I heard both and there was something about the Naim that left me with no choice but to get it.

  • @ibassnote
    @ibassnote 2 года назад +5

    I continue to believe you are the best of the best when it comes to reviewing a product. I always leave a review and have a lot to mull over and consider, even if I have no interest in ever owning said product. That is high praise. I’m relishing the comparison format and you seem to be as well. Win/win. I’m also so pleased about your openness and support for room correction in all its forms. My Buchardt A500 are vastly improved after correcting for my low-ceiling window-surrounded apartment. A lot to consider in this review. Very surprised to see a product that excites you more than the Naim. I suppose it was inevitable at some point.

  • @Jeymore
    @Jeymore 2 года назад +13

    As always: a quality review! As an owner of a NAD M10 I really think about changing to the v2 because of the bluesound wireless rear option. And thank you so much for the bloopers ^_^ Frohe Ostern!

    • @kace2006
      @kace2006 2 года назад

      Which speakers are you running the NAD on? And have you heard any benefits of using Dirac?

  • @RobMyself
    @RobMyself 2 года назад +1

    Have it. Love it. Thanks man. Accurate review.

  • @RealDiGiPHiX
    @RealDiGiPHiX 2 года назад +30

    I would love to see a review on the Arcam SA30. Class G amp with Dirac built in, HDMI eARC, small form factor, 120 watts into 8 ohms for around the same price as the NAD.

    • @jlappin6277
      @jlappin6277 2 года назад +1

      There was a review on that .I’m just trying to remember who did that but it was done just recently.

  • @isaacsykes3
    @isaacsykes3 2 года назад +2

    Bruh, you just killed the RUclips video game again with this video. BRAVO!! NO CAP, as my young nephew would say, meaning honestly 🤣🤣🤣. In the years I've spent with your various outlets...I've seen a lot of people copy a lot of things techniques and innovations you and you team come up. From the way you do your video introductions(Jay), your b-roll footage, the music you select, the outtakes, even your ethical standards, all have seemingly made their way across RUclips, making you a true "influencer" so to speak. However, the switch to Terry Ellis was just awesome and hilarious, and I cannot wait to see where this shows up next, although I have no doubt that it will..Soon. 🤣🤣🤣. Anyway, please keep up the great work. It's is definitely appreciated and helpful and downright entertaining.

  • @markwilliford7471
    @markwilliford7471 2 года назад +4

    Jon your videos are simply the best. Your articulation is so relatable, as is your approach to music, equipment, and that fine line between insanity and enjoyment most of us are walking. Thank you so much for this. I was a NAD user for the first 20 years of my “adult” audio journey and now use McIntosh equipment - however - I want to set my daughter up as she becomes independent and this seems like it could be a great fit. Something I don’t believe you covered in the vid but would be of interest in a future podcast or video is what speaker pairing you most enjoyed with the NAD. Thanks again - you are brilliant, and I love that you are working with Terry. He is amazing as well and basically convinced me to buy Bowers & Wilkins 802D4 speakers (almost) blind.

  • @michaellong9039
    @michaellong9039 2 года назад +2

    Perfect for most people's needs. Awesome review!

  • @bryanherr1093
    @bryanherr1093 2 года назад +9

    If you like the flexibility of the M10 but can't afford the price tag the Bluesound Powernode (HDMI version) can also do surround sound with the Bluesound Flex speakers or a second Powernode (any model) and passive speakers.

    • @Wozzaatwozza
      @Wozzaatwozza 2 года назад +4

      I agree with Bryan. Just to note there is no Dirac in the power node.
      Another option if starting from new, the Bluesound Soundbar+ which has ATMOS, HDMI eArc, bass management, and supports rear wireless speakers. I have this in my Bedroom, as well as 3 other NAD systems in my home, including a M28

    • @bryanherr1093
      @bryanherr1093 2 года назад +2

      @@Wozzaatwozza good point about no Dirac in the Powernode

    • @21stdigital
      @21stdigital 2 года назад

      Thank you, noted!

    • @kace2006
      @kace2006 2 года назад

      What's the NAD V2 vs Powernode verdic with respect to sound ?

    • @mr_ion
      @mr_ion 2 года назад

      what about the NAD C700?

  • @PursuitPerfectSystem
    @PursuitPerfectSystem 2 года назад +21

    Hi John
    Thanks for including me in this video, it was great to work with you, hope this is ok to post.
    For anyone interested there is not a "Terry Ellis Target Curve" that I can give you that will work for you. There is a specific process I follow that I know works and its unlikely anyone else is doing. But for target curves this has to be specific for every system room and person and its the bit that takes the time and experience to get right but getting it right makes all the difference and the level of fine tune flexibility Dirac offers is what makes it stand out.
    Great video John, thanks again

    • @floshi6519
      @floshi6519 2 года назад +3

      PPS you Rock! 👍🏻🇮🇹

    • @Constantin1020
      @Constantin1020 3 месяца назад

      Hi Terry, i‘m thinking of switching from my Naim Unity Atom to The NAD M10 for the Dirac Room correction. I got some big issues with the frequency response in my room (dips and peaks ).How can I contact You?

  • @vincethehun364
    @vincethehun364 3 месяца назад

    Thank you for this excellent review. Based on your comments I bought the M10v2, and I do not regret it a single instance

  • @jltodd1789
    @jltodd1789 Год назад +2

    LMAO. I just ordered the NAD M10 V2 today. Going to connect it with a pair of KEF LS50 Metas AND a pair of JL Audio e100 subwoofers. I love the dual sub control on this NAD M10 V2. That is brilliant.

  • @angelorasmijn7306
    @angelorasmijn7306 2 года назад +4

    Nice to see Terry Ellis here! Love his channel too! 👍🏼

  • @tldhthompson
    @tldhthompson 2 года назад +4

    when I went to sound test the blue sound powernode last month, they had this set up too. I could not believe the difference. I did stay disciplined - I purchased the powernode. I hope to upgrade one day to this. The bass was SO accurate and full. Highs were crisp and clean. Loved it.

    • @chrisp.916
      @chrisp.916 2 года назад +2

      I'm actually upgrading to a NAD M10 V2 from a 7 months old Powernode, without listening to the NAD! Your comment is reassuring. The €3K were hard to swallow with a blind decision. I am receiving it next week.

    • @stevesentanoe6730
      @stevesentanoe6730 2 года назад

      @@chrisp.916 how is it? A lot better than powernode, is it worth to upgrade from powernode?

    • @chrisp.916
      @chrisp.916 2 года назад +1

      @@stevesentanoe6730 I have uploaded many sound demos on my profile , check them out! In short, the NAD M10 v2 is an upgrade from the Bluesound and aesthetically is much more appealing than the Powernode. Lots of power and the biggest advantage is the room correction software (Dirac Live).

  • @Big-J-8579
    @Big-J-8579 2 года назад +5

    I'm a full-size component guy with a dedicated listening room. However, this M10 V2 would be a fabulous solution for our daughter's apartment. It seems to check all the boxes for a small footprint system. Thanks again.

    • @Wozzaatwozza
      @Wozzaatwozza 2 года назад +1

      You can add a blusound wireless amp as well as wireless rear speakers

    • @obiwan007
      @obiwan007 2 года назад +1

      I find it rather expensive for a "daughters appartment" solution. I like the looks of it though. You basically pay for the looks of it...

    • @joshmcgowan4
      @joshmcgowan4 2 года назад +1

      @@obiwan007 if price is a concern there is the NAD C700 or the Powernode, almost all the same capabilities minus room correction.

    • @kas4751
      @kas4751 2 года назад +4

      I can be ur new son, and my apartment needs some new audio gear too, dad. Cmon now.

    • @Big-J-8579
      @Big-J-8579 2 года назад +2

      @@kas4751 That made me chuckle.

  • @heinz6196
    @heinz6196 2 года назад +1

    I agree with what you say, had the M10 at home driving my Magnepan 1.6 and was pleased with the
    result when applaying DIRAC. It also handles my TV, and listening radio with the M10 is fun, because
    with the BluOS-App you can manage to have the same level of volume when switching between TV, radio or
    streaming. Roon works out of the box. All in all a good WAF !
    My old T&A E-MusicReceiver comes not even close to this.
    The bigest deficiency however is ... you can't connect a headphone via cable like my Beyer T70 and I refuse to
    use bluetooth headpohne at home !
    Thats why it went back. I realy hope the NAD will come up with a solution for the M10 ! Maybe a V3 ?

  • @robertmccain7344
    @robertmccain7344 2 года назад +5

    Purchased the NAD M10 v2 a couple months ago after watching you, Ron at New Record Day reviews on the unit. Couldn't be happier with the M10. Have it running through and old Pioneer Spec 4 into the new Polk Audio R60 tower speakers. Fantastic sound. Thanks for all you do.

    • @kace2006
      @kace2006 2 года назад

      Have you heard any benefits of using Dirac?

  • @MaSch078
    @MaSch078 2 года назад

    I just love this channel.

  • @felipedantas4666
    @felipedantas4666 2 года назад

    Great collab. Big fan of both channels.

  • @Rvrd90
    @Rvrd90 2 года назад

    Glad I found your channel. Very entertaining.

  • @joshmcgowan4
    @joshmcgowan4 2 года назад +1

    Great review as always! I heard the original version of the M10 when it first came out, and was very impressed, nice to see they have continued expand its capabilities.

  • @billythestalker
    @billythestalker 2 года назад +5

    As an owner of an Atom and original M10, I echo all of John’s comments!

    • @billythestalker
      @billythestalker 2 года назад +1

      I’d describe the M10 as clean and clear, but a slight bit lean sounding. By comparison the Naim is meaty but fuzzy. It has more weight but much less definition in the bass.
      I flip flopped between which I prefer and it really took living with each for an extended time to choose.
      I’m going to stick with the M10.

  • @franciskwok3515
    @franciskwok3515 2 года назад +1

    "We don't all listen for the same things." Bang on.

  • @paskahata
    @paskahata 2 года назад +2

    Great review! I allso have the M10v2, and using a powernode to feed the rears. This just is the best all-in-one solution there is ATM.

    • @21stdigital
      @21stdigital 2 года назад

      NICE! I like this option/idea!

  • @kubjohal
    @kubjohal 2 года назад

    Great review .... Loved the link up with Terry Ellis 🙂

  • @aidanpallister7784
    @aidanpallister7784 2 года назад

    Excellent video John. Great point about digitising an analogue turntable signal too.

  • @mw3640
    @mw3640 2 года назад +10

    The big question is NAD M10 V2 or Marantz 40n?

  • @Kerwonderful
    @Kerwonderful 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you John, I think I have finally found the box that I need and want. The eARC input is the clincher, along with all the other features. I just need to find and get the best book shelf speakers to go along with this unit.

  • @edmundgil6008
    @edmundgil6008 2 года назад +7

    Wow! A “10” in Darko “enthusiasm” for sure! Love how you compared to two top integrated amps! 💪🏽🔥❤️

  • @grommie
    @grommie Год назад

    You have some sick sounding track at the start❤

  • @ProfoundProductions
    @ProfoundProductions Год назад

    Watched this review last week and bought the M10 V2 to replace my Cambridge Audio Cx81 & CXN Streamer. Now I’m no audio snob, can’t hear a difference in cables etc but as soon as I turned this thing on I could hear a clear difference. Sounded like shhhit! Thin and weak treble with no bass coming from my SVS 3000. I immediately ran the room correction thinking that might help but it only made things worse. It was a bit shocking really. Anyway, Crutchfield was super cool and it only cost me $12 shipping to return it. Lesson learned and no mo fomo. Gave me a real appreciation for my old gear so it was a good experience overall.

  • @antwake
    @antwake 2 года назад +1

    nice collab with people's favorite hifi geek !

  • @sammooney5783
    @sammooney5783 2 года назад

    excellent again, thanks Mate!!

  • @timothybuckley2325
    @timothybuckley2325 2 года назад

    Very nice review.. Best yet!

  • @Biggles1999
    @Biggles1999 2 года назад +4

    A great video and good to see spatial/surround audio being discussed. I don’t have the luxury of running separate stereo/AV systems, so it would be good to see the channel addressing AV amps/receivers in a dual setup and also a full review of spatial audio (Tidal, Apple etc) through this approach. In my case I’m running an Arcam AVR 30 for AV, streaming and stereo vinyl playback with DIRAC, Tidal and ROON. Tidal ATMOS is streamed from an LG C1 via eARC.

  • @chawonytube
    @chawonytube 2 года назад

    Another great episode!

  • @MisterChibs
    @MisterChibs 2 года назад +3

    Future if indeed. I had no idea Blue os app was available on Apple Watch until I watched this. Looked at my apps on the watch and it’s already there and working perfectly. Amazing!!!👍🏻

  • @itsPenguinBoy
    @itsPenguinBoy 2 года назад

    Always love it when Terry gives you a tickle in the top end.

  • @Sebwolf54
    @Sebwolf54 2 года назад +3

    Thanks for your genuinely great review of the M10 V2. I loved the „appearances“ of the Naim Uniti Atom and especially the Lyngdorf TDAI 1120!

    • @BrunoP
      @BrunoP 2 года назад

      Long life to the 1120!, I've owned one before getting the M10 V2 and I was so in love with the whole custom configurations you can do but there's so many other things that the M10 is better than the Lyngdorf.. such a pity.. but to achieve that they have the TDAI 3400 but it's much more expensive than the M10 V2

    • @robmaxwell3678
      @robmaxwell3678 2 года назад

      Bruno. I want to get either the Lyngdorf or the NAD. The deciding factor for me is the ease of use for both TV watching with the HDMI eARC and music listening to Tidal, maybe Roon. As I want my wife to be able to enjoy the system too, I need to get the one that is simpler to use. Suggestions?

  • @objectpdfmov
    @objectpdfmov 2 года назад +3

    those VU meters are so chaotic and juddery

    • @kace2006
      @kace2006 2 года назад

      They don't even bounce to the correct beat

  • @orvarino
    @orvarino Год назад

    Splendid, nice to hear someone who appreciates the analog organic appeal of vinyl but embraces the possibilities of enhancing the experience with Dirac/Room Perfect.
    But my OCD got me. Room Correction or Room Compensation. I can live with both. But John - pick one and stick with it. 😜😂

  • @davidsmithson9236
    @davidsmithson9236 2 года назад +1

    Merry Crispness John.

  • @johnjrubadub
    @johnjrubadub 2 года назад +2

    It is possible to program the remote control to do more than just the functions you mention. The numbered buttons can be assigned to different inputs via the BluOS app making it much more versatile. I own the M10 (V1) and I think its biggest downside is its ability to drive low sensitivity speakers. I would love to see how it handles some ZU Audio speakers in the future.

  • @michaelstaruszkiewicz8798
    @michaelstaruszkiewicz8798 2 года назад

    Excellent Review, I LOVE your delivery and the astute analysis of whatever subject your critiquing. I like your imparting a warm, personal perspective on the use of the equipment in a real environment & the interactions with the various parts of a Hi-Fi System. While I cling to my favorite Hi-Fi pieces which I've curated over the decades; I still use my 1985 NAD 7140 40W Receiver with my Linn KAN Mk.1 Stand Monitors. My multi-channel systems are KEF Q & JBL Studio II dating to the early '00s, so I appreciate your take on the Here & Now, especially for smaller spaces, and incorporating newer/older components together. This NAD really fires my imagination for a minimalist HT Audiophile System that will finally be approved by my Better Half. Those GoldenEar BRX Monitors are perfect for my tastes (Everything except HipHop & Punk), (Where did you get those Stands?) though I'm partial to SVS Subwoofers (Sealed) and my future living space will be a 115 year old bungalow which I'm renovating this year. Perhaps this will allow me to part with my vast collection of vintage HiFi Gear. Mahalo for another great review, faux pas included.👍

  • @buddyjenkins7188
    @buddyjenkins7188 2 года назад

    I have the original M10, a T778, and the M33 and I never use the touch screen. The BluOS app is all I use. It also works on the Powernode for the pool and the Node in the kitchen.

  • @thor_86
    @thor_86 2 года назад +6

    I'm watching this with my nad m10 v2.

  • @timothysmart8528
    @timothysmart8528 2 года назад

    I’m not an audiophile but I really enjoy John’s channel. This was hugely entertaining. I bout my first NAD kit 40 years ago. They’ve come in somewhat!

  • @jstones9872
    @jstones9872 Год назад

    i just ordered the NAD m10v2 pairing it with Paradigm founders 80f. thanks

  • @darrenweight5972
    @darrenweight5972 2 года назад +1

    Fantastic! Thank you John. This subject has been a struggle for me. I will normally prefer my 2-channel system for music and I rarely watch movies and don’t watch television- BUT - I am open to finding products to help bridge that gap, and simplicity would have to be key. This sounds like an interesting place to start.

  • @thomasjanssen9124
    @thomasjanssen9124 2 года назад

    Thank you for this very comprehensive review. I‘ve been using the M10 V2 for half a year now with my KEFs (Meta+Sub). Especially with Dirac enabled the sound it delivers is just amazing, very clear highs, a punchy bass and a wide sound stage. I also like the small form factor and the simple design. It‘s a wonderful package for music AND movies. I haven‘t had the chance to try the 4.0 mode with wireless speakers, yet.

    • @kace2006
      @kace2006 2 года назад +1

      What would you rate the sound before and after Dirac out of 10?

  • @marexlucas6353
    @marexlucas6353 2 года назад +1

    Nice review as always. Thx...Any plans to review NAD T778 ?

  • @kenbrown4904
    @kenbrown4904 2 года назад +1

    Loving thr Eurythmics tribute room treatment (see Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This) ,,,,,,all joking aside, nice video, big Bluesound fan in Canada only wish they built the products here too. Keep up the entertaining videos, thanks Ken

  • @funcionyforma
    @funcionyforma 2 года назад

    Finally! Save it to watch it with a coffe latter

  • @Max-nf4jc
    @Max-nf4jc 2 года назад

    Great vid as always! Yes I’d like to see John review the Arcam sa30 to see his take on the musicality of that feature-ful integrated amp including Dirac live

  • @jfh4270
    @jfh4270 2 года назад +3

    Fantastic. Super helpful and entertaining. NAD M10v2 a real contender. One follow up - what did you do with your headphones when using the M10v2?

    • @DarkoAudio
      @DarkoAudio  2 года назад +5

      Bluetooth: Apple AirPods Max 👍🏻

  • @MRPC5
    @MRPC5 2 года назад

    I owned one and after running Dirac the sound was great. The app was great. I ended up returning because it kept making LOUD pops, the maximum volume is really quite low, and it seemed to do a poor job of driving my sub. The bass was there, but the impact and drive was gone. I actually may have kept it if it had 1 more HDMI input.

  • @gabriel_8801
    @gabriel_8801 2 года назад

    As a Naim Atom Unity Owner I am always thinking how nice it would be to have all these electronic add-ons: BlueOS and especially room correction Dirac built-in. However, fact is, I am so happy about the sound of the Naim it could not justify to change now and small devices (eg miniDSP line) can add room correction if wished so.
    Naim is all about simplicity and a perfect sound what I appreciate a lot. I fear also that each new iteration of the M10 will decrease the resale price of the present M10 generation you own. So all in all even if I would be in the market to buy a new streamer I would still go for Naim which corresponds more to my needs. But it’s nice to see the competition so active in this market it gives more choice for everyone. We are lucky guys to have so much choice.

  • @towertone
    @towertone 2 года назад +3

    Great review, but having both the NAD C658 streaming to our (vintage) stereo downstairs and the NAD T758 v3 for the TV room upstairs, I still have to scratch my head and wonder why the M10 has no analog bypass while the C & T do.
    Without using Dirac (waiting to get rear speakers wired) vinyl sounds fuller on both of my....uh....NADs than digitized (which also sounds really good).
    Just seems like something the M series would offer.

  • @colinyoung5690
    @colinyoung5690 2 года назад +1

    Seriously considering one of these, I’ve had enough of Naim. I had (still have) a UnitiLite which I bought for streaming/NAS use etc. but it’d overhead and lose connection continuously rendering it an ornament and just became a massive pain in the ar*s. I bought a Node 2i on a whim as it was cheap and then my old faithful A400 gave up the ghost. Then I went back and bought a Naim Nova as I do prefer the look/feel of the app better than the Bluesound. 1 year later I have issues with the Naim. Have to reinstate the WiFi handshake (mildly irritating) every now and again but now I’m having to factory reset (really irritating) as the POS freezes. This time it won’t reset so I have a 4K brick. Grrrrrrrrrr. A400 now fixed and the Node 2i never fails. Learn this expensive lesson from me and avoid Naim. They will tell you it’s unusual but the forums are full of these issues, then they’ll tell you to check your have you check your router etc.etc.

  • @spigdon
    @spigdon 2 года назад +1

    Great review John. I own the M10v2 and purchased the two flex's (w. Battery packs also for versatility) - albeit they are still on backorder...
    Terrific unit - my only frustrations are
    No source selection on the remote
    The unit won't flick back to BluOS source when jumping into Tidal connect whilst HDMI earc is engaged (you have to use touchscreen)
    The TV will always boot up assuming the audio system is in use. Using the tv remote you always have to change back to TV speakers (HDMI glitch it seems)

    • @kace2006
      @kace2006 2 года назад

      Which speakers are you running the NAD on? And have you heard any benefits of using Dirac?

  • @RaoulSamDaruwala
    @RaoulSamDaruwala 2 года назад +1

    Not really into the virtual surround sound. But, multi channel SACD music surprised me recently. There are a few recordings, like Headhunters by Herbie Hancock that were recorded and mixed quadrophonically that you now get to experience. Changes ones definition of soundstage!

  • @josephchamberlain3681
    @josephchamberlain3681 2 года назад

    Hey, wonderful as always :) I just thought I'd say that I would love to hear you review new music, outside of gear. I like your taste, and would love to hear you talk about it more in depth. Thanks!

  • @TheDeviant72
    @TheDeviant72 2 года назад

    another great review , i have the 1st edition m10 and love it i drive a pair of mission 782se speakers they sound absolutely fantastic imo , i programmed my old nad c350 amp remote to do the basic functions like vol and skip etc , not sure i can warrant getting the v2 just yet though

  • @bjwal6
    @bjwal6 2 года назад +2

    Would like to see more in depth comparisons in this super relevant/competitive segment (atom/m10/tdai1120) with some more detailed conclusions and preferences. Like… which would you buy?

  • @shughy1
    @shughy1 2 года назад

    Any device you have to place on a shelf or bend down to look at will always benefit more from buttons that provide feedback to user, touch screens just are too awkward in that scenario as you often use these things without directly looking at it, so you rely on the touch feedback from a physical button

  • @sonny8085
    @sonny8085 2 года назад +3

    I might have missed you say it, but does the DIRAC incorporate the wireless satellite speakers in the 4.1 setup?

  • @deanlewis4622
    @deanlewis4622 2 года назад +2

    The display is user configurable as you like for EACH input. The video seems to imply that the display was fixed differently per each input.

  • @patrickstingley4126
    @patrickstingley4126 2 года назад +1

    I loved the sound, but I found it was unstable. It kept hanging up and I had to re-set it. I ended up returning it. You probably don't run these things long enough to experience the problem. It worked fine for a week, but after that it kept locking up and eventually I stopped using it and returned it.

  • @hakki686
    @hakki686 2 года назад +1

    One of the reasons why i sold my lovely accuphase preamp was dirac from the nad c658. Like with dirac ON, my loudspeakers are playin like on steroids! Like 30% better sound in comparison. Now i am steering at a piece of plastic instead of nice materials ! But dont care !

  • @ExxInferis
    @ExxInferis 2 года назад +2

    Nice review thanks. Can't decide between this and the NAD C399 with additional MDC2 module for room correction. Not sure if I'd make use of the display, or even want it on all the time, in which case I lean towards the C399 which also has extra power. But then I see this thing and just fall in love with it. Torn.

    • @21stdigital
      @21stdigital 2 года назад

      I see on the 'measurements' for this on 4ohm is 232Wpc at 4ohm and comes to 179Wpc 6ohm unlike the c700 method of amp algorithm. This is to push those 'hard to push speakers' new algorithms. Just wanted to add to the conversation. ⚡

    • @21stdigital
      @21stdigital 2 года назад

      Ps: I was considering the 399 until I found this information on soundstage network's measurements page about the M10v2. I am now looking for 4ohm speakers to pair with it for purchase. Check it out.

  • @stephencosta6814
    @stephencosta6814 2 года назад +1

    Well done John I love your reviews especially since you got into this all in one system is very convenient I must say there’s definitely a place for it but I still prefer my separate preamp amplifier and Dac.

    • @Percival1919
      @Percival1919 2 года назад +1

      Me too (kind of), I recently bought mono blocks, but now need the matching Pre and a new DAC. I prefer minimalism and I’m missing my surround sound, so this could be the answer.

    • @stephencosta6814
      @stephencosta6814 2 года назад

      @@Percival1919 yes it can Not too shabby lol

  • @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
    @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 2 года назад

    🤗 GREAT TO SEE YOU AND TERRY COOPERATING TOGETHER WITH DIRAC AND PROVING WHAT I JUST SAID ON TERRY’s VIDEO…IMHHO …it’s the best time to be an audiophile 😁🤗😍😍😍

  • @Jonziebal
    @Jonziebal 2 года назад

    Love your reviews

  • @bsbabcock
    @bsbabcock 2 года назад

    That midrange spread-back with Dirac I imagine is because the processing has fixed a bunch of phase and timing issues between the drivers as they hit the listening posiition. Dirac does some voodoo beyond just timing and EQ. When left = right in timing, response, phase, throughout the bandwidth, that's when imaging and staging happens. I'll bet separation in the stage improved as well after a good Dirac tune.. By that I mean the air between the instruments. Space between.. And more pinpoint imaging and depth. I'll bet also a sweep in room eq wizard of left then right speakers before and after dirac would show some telling information in how they come together better after Dirac was implemented.

  • @Robottorobots
    @Robottorobots 2 года назад +7

    I’m one of those guys that keeps a piece of gear until it dies (My NAD C740 is 20 years old and running strong) so I can’t help but wonder what the lifespan of this might be.

    • @wp7310
      @wp7310 2 года назад +1

      I guess old electronic was made less eco and live longer. It's a reason why I'm not thinking about all-in-one devices. Especially speakers with streaming. Ordinary speakers can work i guess for long years. But electronic part... I guess 2y is enough this times. Or 5y - it depends on guarantee :)
      Of course there is also a chance to find a service and repair it but such electronic is very complex and I'm not sure if it's possible :(

    • @richardlast5850
      @richardlast5850 2 года назад

      Same here - I have an NAD 7100 receiver from the late1980s - still drives my old AR9s out in the studio. In my main room I run the NAD M33 to GoldenEar Triton Ones - magic. While I haven't mastered Dirac yet it's still fabulous.

  • @CosmicKnight1
    @CosmicKnight1 2 года назад +3

    I wonder, John, if the presence of the TV will pull you towards exploring a center channel or if that kind of gear (multi-channel and lots of digital) is a bridge too far. Perhaps you’ll have dual systems or compromise and get a soundbar. Hopefully you’ll adress this apparent horns of a dilemma, because it’s a real challenge for 2.x listeners and TV watchers, like myself.

  • @jimmykaka89
    @jimmykaka89 2 года назад +1

    Great review and the bloopers at the end were a great finish! I do have to ask though why prices are given in USD and not including any other currencies?

  • @domtomas1178
    @domtomas1178 2 года назад +1

    Another great video!. thanks John. I am seeing a slight difference in the video.. Has Olaf switched to a BlackMagic Pocket 6K camera for this? 😁

  • @heinzbecker691
    @heinzbecker691 2 года назад

    this thing is a allrounder. but you could also go with a yamaha cx a5000/5100/5200 surround preamp. it also has room mesurment and you can tune it by yourself...okay a usb streamer and a high end dac is also needed. but you can go crazy with amps.
    i only have a oppo sonica dac (i use the preamp)with the zen stream in front of it. a accuphase p4200 as amp...b&w 804D2 speakers. everything hooked up with nordost tyr2 and frey2 cables. ps audio p5 for power delivery. realy good room treatment an i have no need for a dsp in my system.
    now i ordered a smsl vmv d2 dac so it will get even better. it is no soundstage...there is a sphere around the speakers...at some songs there is a surround effekt that you turn your head arround every time you hear it...crazy good soundstage would i say. if you got a realy good setup and room treatment, there is no need for that dsp/equalizer/ dirac live things. but if its not the case...your audio performance will improof alot with those services.
    what i found out about controlling the speakers is that the accuphase amps are realy awesome. first i got a yamaha a s2000 and the bass was more upper base roar and lower base wasnt realy there. than i switched to an accuphase e350 integrated amp and the bass was wow...realy low and controlled...almost no roaring anymore. the treble of the a s2000 was also not us much like the e350 but at the same time it was harsher.
    but finally i got the p4200 amp....uff..another level in controlling the speakers. deeper bass, more controlled but also warmer sort off...you feel the bass much more. i think its also about phaseshift arround the whole frequenzy spectrum. every thing sounds bigger and much more real and natural. didnt acspect the such a nice step up from the realy good e350 integrated.
    just an awesome performance without any dsp and stuff. xd

  • @1881Gordon
    @1881Gordon 2 года назад

    Really good review this one.. It seems like NAD have 'thrown the kitchen sink' at this unit. Amongst many things, DIRAC and rear surround feature is a real added bonus. I need a demo on this fantastic piece of kit.

  • @billd9667
    @billd9667 2 года назад +1

    One I thing that stumps me about Dirac on the M10 v2 (I own one) is the way the basic version affects the midrange. I was under the impression that it only changes the lower frequencies. I get the same “pullback” in the mids as you describe, John. I was out off by it at first, but I have come to value it as an alternative.

    • @quitegenius
      @quitegenius 2 года назад +1

      Most of what the room effects is lower frequencies. And the free version corrects up to 500Hz which is enough for most people to create the effect you are talking about. I had the full version of Dirac and after playing with it for weeks, I settled on correcting only up to 1kHz. To me corrections over 1.5-2K started sounding a bit unnatural even though it was still tightening the bass.

  • @esaranba47
    @esaranba47 2 года назад +2

    I have the original M10 paired with Totem Tribe Towers in my bedroom. Makes watching movies more enjoyable as well as discovering new music through BluOs. Keep up the bloopers!

    • @joshmcgowan4
      @joshmcgowan4 2 года назад +1

      I have Totem Tribe III on walls as my L,C,R in my Living room. Continually impressed by their performance for size for TV, Movies and Music. The Tribe Towers in a bedroom sounds like a killer setup!!

    • @esaranba47
      @esaranba47 2 года назад

      @@joshmcgowan4 Indeed they are. They can be placed near a rear wall and provide a surprising bass for its size. On a side note, today I received a pair of Lumina 2 and they sound fantastic! I don't want to plug the Totems again hahaha. Oh, this hobby...

  • @billd9667
    @billd9667 2 года назад

    Now, it truly is everything. The M10 (both versions) finally got a balance [trim] control in the latest firmware update. I’d like to see a source trim next, but this is enough for now.

  • @sjc1204
    @sjc1204 2 года назад

    Interesting about the PULSE FLEX 2i speakers. I'm a fan of these speakers and use two in stereo for desk speakers. The high frequencies aren't as smooth as I would like but I love the fat midrange. I really can't recommend them enough.
    I've seen reliability issues with an NAD amplifier and an NAD DAC in the last 8-9 years so I'm hoping Bluesound products last longer.
    Viewers who skip the blooper reel at the end are missing out.

  • @billywindsock9597
    @billywindsock9597 2 года назад

    Good review, as always. I really prefer the Naim app (on a MusoQb2 and formally a Uniti Star) to the BluOS app - on my Bluesound Node.

  • @kaifa76
    @kaifa76 2 года назад +3

    there's a huge price gap between the M10 and the tdai-1120, like 700 euro

  • @richm4402
    @richm4402 2 года назад

    Thanks for the review! I wish this unit had a HT input

  • @TristanSchneck
    @TristanSchneck 2 года назад +6

    If going through the trouble to make a touch capable screen on the device face, and include a separate remote control, why not just integrate the touch based UI directly onto the remote? This would provide a dedicated Blu-OS remote for the device if users did not wish to use a smartphone or secondary device.

    • @robinr5787
      @robinr5787 2 года назад

      Think this is the universal Bluesound remote, so for all devices, including non touch. So not a NAD remote specific.

  • @europria
    @europria 2 года назад +2

    It seems NAD better put a Dirac tutorial video online if they want to push this product. If John needs help, I will never have faith in myself having the optimum setup.

  • @stargator4945
    @stargator4945 2 года назад +2

    Does the v2 version still get as hot as the original version? So is the cooling better or has it a mover efficient way to generate the power for the speakers?

  • @eltongoemans1080
    @eltongoemans1080 2 года назад +1

    Great review! Too bad you didn’t talk about the pre out option for power amps and larger speakers upgrades

  • @supersnail5000
    @supersnail5000 2 года назад +5

    Honestly in this realm of "future-fi" software and features are really becoming more and more the determining factor.
    Any room correction is already running DSP on the output, which will likely have more impact on the sound than the actual amp/DAC in the unit beyond a certain point.
    I'm glad we're getting more forward looking devices aimed at audiophiles, as the convenience of roon, streaming, e-arc, etc... just lets you get into the music faster, and I think it's good we've seen that shift from just the consumer realm.

    • @majorae1085
      @majorae1085 2 года назад +1

      Agreed. However were NAD could have really hit a home run is if they updated the v1 with this new algorithm. It seems highly likely the v1 hardware could support it.

    • @martinriiser5523
      @martinriiser5523 2 года назад

      @@majorae1085 What do you mean by new algorithm?

  • @ramasuharman7962
    @ramasuharman7962 2 года назад +1

    We need Terry Ellish's clones for each country to properly calibrate dirac! 😁 Then it is everything we need, and and our favorite speakers off course..

  • @niklaswaller1917
    @niklaswaller1917 2 года назад +2

    Curious about the Lyngdorf 3400 🙏🏻