“Low IQ Debates Around This” | Islamophobia Council Set Up By Angela Rayner
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- Angela Rayner is setting up a 16-member council on Islamophobia, with ex-Tory minister and staunch Remainer Dominic Grieve tipped to lead it.
The group will push for an official government definition of anti-Muslim discrimination - one critics warn could curb free speech and act as a de facto blasphemy law.
Grieve has backed controversial definitions before, including one adopted by Labour that was slammed for silencing legitimate criticism of Islam.
Ian Collins speaks with Chair of the Muslim Labour Network, Ali Milani.
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I'm sick to death of hearing about Muslims and Islam.
Me too I’m from India I’ve seen what they did and seen what Palestinians did uk has no hope with Islam
Nigel wants their vote when Islam should be outlawed here.
Me too and most people 😊
You need to turn TalkTV off then. Their muslim-hate oozes out of every presenter.
Me too and sick of this Anglophobia in England , especially from those in high places especially government and the civil service, this is Our home land!
It has no place in the West
It is being used as a battering ram against the West
Labour bowing down to their new paymasters & ignoring the British people .
The followers are funded to be here and breed.
And breed they do. Prolifically.
Is l am has no place here
What about Anglophobia by racist Muslims and other communalisers!
Define Anglophobia.
Not allowed
@@ShyTalks-d8bAnti-white racism I presume. Though I would bet you don't believe that happens 😂😂
@ShyTalks-d8b a dislike for the English and white people
@@ShyTalks-d8b being anti English
This is England, not Saudi Arabia, why is this even being discussed in a Christian country?
Only a matter of time until we become an Islamic state!
because our country has been hijacked & sabotaged
It's being discussed because the UK has a prime minister without the backbone to say NO.
@@vintageuk4954Correct 😊
*"Were a Christian country"*
Brits now look to the Government as their God, and that Government has betrayed you.
Islam is a religion not a race. We have no blasphemy laws now so in my view defining a made up word as an offence which would prevent reasonable discussion is against free speech.
cult
Cult ideology.
Islam is a hell not a peaceful fuckers
this guy demonstrates there is no such thing as a moderate muslim
The more I listen to him the more terrifying I find him.
When have Christians driven a teacher into hiding because he/she has offended Christianity?
Couldn't say it better myself!
If those of Islamic Ideology don't like British laws, rules, heritage, customs and our way of life then they can leave and go find a country that suits their needs better.
theyre here for a war. look up dar al harb
They won't leave. They have will need to be expelled. They can't go back to the countries like Pakistan that is already a hell on earth.
Labour desperate for the Muslim vote 🗳 pathetic 😮
Definitely
All great until they turn against them, which I'd say is becoming inevitable. Like lambs to the slaughter.
A blasphemy law and free speech are diametrically opposed.
Muslims getting special treatment to the detriment of the rest of us. What's new
Kick this minority out of our country. They are nothing but trouble. We don’t need them here.
“Special treatment” like you yts haven’t been extremely Islamophobic for centuries
It should be for all religions then....not just Islam
Not if you are an islamic country which is what Labour and their voters want
@@NPC--666I suppose there is that 🤦
@@NPC--666 We are headed that way very quickly sadly, all in the name of votes and postal votes.
Is there Christianaphobia, Judeaphobia? How about Baldaphobia, tallaphobia, smallaphobia the list could be endless. This needs to stop now.
The poor Muslin in the country, they are the ones causing all the problems in our British Christian Country.
I'm suffering from Labourphobia, it's really quite debilitating!
@@TheDigitalAuraMe too 😊
Me to 😂
@ Is FarRightaphobia on the list as well.
Starmer and labour will be banning eating pork in Britain next. 🤯
It won't stop at pork, it will be alcohol and women will all have to wear burkas and become third class citizens
That's not as crazy as it sounds
Didn’t someone get arrested for having a bacon sandwich near a mosque?
@george6977Nah not true..
Don’t interfere with our bacon butties.
What does Islam have to do with race?
Surely Islam is a belief system open to any race and not an immutable characteristic either.
My brother decided to call me a racist C*** because I once said something against Islam. We're no longer speaking.
Now apply the same to antisemitism and you're talking
@ … except that Jewish can be both a nationality and an ethnicity whereas Islamic can be neither.
@ Judaism is a religion. There are Arab, black African, white European jews, etc
@ that's what Zionists say to cry racism..... Thank you for making my point. If you complain stay consistent and don't have double standards,
They want to protect themselves and their book but silence is deafening when children are abused by their community. The manipulation and diversion is strong. I have no respect for them.
Can anyone let us know exactly how Muslims/Islam and Islamists have benefited the UK and the indigenous populations?
Genuinely curious.
It’s not about how we can benefit from them but how they benefit from us … 😡😡😡
You are not alone.
This is England. We don't want anyone else's law. Especially about religious laws. This is a Christian country. If you don't appreciate our laws,go somewhere you have Islamic laws already.
Well stop hating u prick
Chritsian country hahahahahah....... Ask the Palestinian Christians on the land of Jesus Christ about how they're being treated by zionist christians
What about those blown up, run over, murdered, gang raped by those of the Islamic Ideologu and yet not one Imam or Islamic leader has stood up and condemned those acts of violence, especially the ones committed against little girls.
Labour hate the British way of life. You don’t have to be treated as a 2nd class citizen to know that
Islamaphobia is not a real word. We don't want blasphemy laws in this country.
5 shot & injured in Sweden. Why nothing in this?
swedens government has just announced they have completely lost control of crime from all the peaceful religion people they let in en masse! in a few short years they have the second highest rape statistics in the world, along with gang violence and daily bombings of the indigenous people! Sweden ffs
What about the staff stabbed in Argos 2 weeks ago, haven’t heard anymore about that also. Definitely not in mainstream news
@@billyboyblyde because both events were caused by the same problem (if you get my point) it will get covered up as long as possible whilst the governments prepare their excuse for multi culture
The once global British Empire - now being told what to do by a muslim council . . . WTAF ?!
By the way what about the abuse metered out against white girls?
That's a far-right conspiracy theory 🤣🤣🤣
@@TheDigitalAura And with that the Labour Party and Islamic home office just made it ten times worse.
Why would the focus be on Islamophobia and not every other minority.
Because they're very touchy about certain things I'd say.
There is no rise of islamaphobia
Exactly ,just a rise in people waking up and being concerned about islamic terrorism
The last time this came up they said that Boris Johnson should be arrested for an article in which he described women as letterboxes! 😮
They do look like letterboxes in mourning.
And terrorists
Not being funny can we have white phobia
Over 50 Islamic countries in the world with strict Islamic laws,Great Britain 🇬🇧 is not one of them,freedom of speech for all and democracy should reside in this country.
This is a tiny island wake up anyone comes here been going in for years. 3rd world island now. LOL
If you come to uk you live under uk law. You not get to have yours
They want this law so they can NEVER be criticized. Disgusting
They just want to shut the white British Christians up.
The law is sufficient as it stands. Why pander to one group at the expense of others?
Ali Milani is just the grass to cover the snake.
As far as it went, it was a civilised, respectful discussion. But I'm with you-I wouldn't trust AM as far as I could kick him.
@@ΒασιλικήΤουρατζίδου Nor me .
No blasphemy laws, thank you.
Then they need to do it for EVERY religion.
We don’t need this law at all. Shut this down we have enough laws. Why not focus on prosecuting the rape gangs!
@@markbrowne1967 Fair point -----> I'm just sick of it all.
This is a religion, not a race of people.dosent make sense.
I agree it is a religion
Oh hes a leading actavist so hes never had a proper job
Its not British.
The country going down the drain and rayer gose on about the subject no one is interested in .
Britain is being islamised.
If they bring in an Islamophobia law will survivors of terrorist attacks with PTSD be immune?
Is being a victim a prerequisite to being an immigrant?
This is the move that will seal Britain's fate ridiculous
If they do not like this country please feel free to leave.
We don’t need their input or their leeching off the taxpayers.
My wife works with a gay muslim, his boyfriend, also muslim are petrified their community discovers their secret. Honour killings O presume. But it isn't preached against in most mosques. 😂😂😂
What kind made up story is this
They need to include all religions not just one religion & they also need to investigate the cause & affect of Islamaphobia & address that by more integration policies & minimise multicultural policies as these clearly are causing divisions & indirect discrimination against other religions & communities.......
Maybe they should try to be less arrogant and obnoxious.
They should be asking why that phobia exists and why it's growing on a daily basis
Just because I disagree does make me a racist. Yet they can hate Christianity and nothing gets said 😢
It’s not Islamophobia, it’s islamistphobia. It’s not “a type of racism”, it’s a type of PTSD.
UK🇬🇧 Has Free Speech....
Had
Not now it doesn’t
Look at the guy... He hates us. And talks crap
It's not racism. No matter what religion a person follows or what country they were born in & what skin colour they have we are ALL part of the human race.
Im not so sure about that. Some are savages.
@@susanmills4843 No matter what actions a person takes doesn't remove the fact they are human.
Just because some are "savages" doesn't mean they are a different animal does it? Because even as a human we are an animal in the biological term.
Milani offers nothing positive nor objective.
That's crazy because the Quran has awful attitudes, teachings and intolerance to unbelievers 'Kuffar', Christians and Jews 'People of the book' Homosexuals and Women. Do we get a council to protect ourselves from that intolerance?
How do you tolerate intolerance?
No single example was given regarding why this is necessary. Laws already exist for bad behaviour.
He has said so much and yet, nothing at all. He kept talking about codifying and clear definitions yet could not give a single example of something that is not already illegal.
I trust him as much as I could throw him.
Every Saturday for nearly 2 years, anti Israeli pro Palestinian marches up and down the country with very little police intervention. It seems that a lot of people, black, white, brown, gay, straight, trans. I don't object, people have the right to protest at the moment. But to say that Muslims are being given a hard time, somewhat flies in the face of the evidence. Maybe I'm right, maybe I am wrong. Always happy to learn something in a polite debate. This is not to be inflammatory, just observational.
Your right ✅
is he really arguing that the Jews in this country are not targeted by a certain section of society, anti semitism doesn't exist then ?
Yes very typical of these people
Taqiyya, taqiyya, who ordered the taqiyya?
I suppose critical thinking and being allowed to question religious supernatural truth claims and the wishes of the alledged creator of the Universe is now to be outlawed.
Not such a word in the Dictionary it's a load of rot like the Liebour party
Made up phobia. It is a real threat nit a phobia. They just live to play the victim.
I don't think we need a definition of islamophobia. It is intrinsicly special pleading.
You can have *racism* or *discrimination against race*. Why do you need your own special form of discriminatin.
Islam is a religion not a race. I am puzzled why so few Muslims have come out against the grooming gangs etc etc.
I've got Labourphobia we need a law to protect us from this radicalised party. 🙏🇬🇧🏴
what about christen-phobia or seek-phobia. why is it only Muslims? why so special
What a load of rubbish and a total waste of money. More taxpayers expense.
Maybe the Islamic portion of this country should be complying with our tax laws and not expecting us to pay for their bigamous wives and children.
there are no other phobia laws for other religions
Britains leaders are not putting their people first. Shame on them.
I wonder why islamiphobia is so high in the uk. Can anyone say?
Perhaps becuase they are responsible for almost all the terror attacks in the UK since 1999?
@@alanmckay7040😂😂
The law should be blind and protect all of us equally....it shouldn't be used to hand additional rights to the few who think they're hard done by.
We will not submit surrender or bow down too this. Crap.
So tired of all this! If you’re antisocial, people will object- that’s normal, not a phobia
Bad behaviour will be called out, and most people recognise that. Why is that not good enough in this case?
A man has been arrested for burning a Koran, he owns the book.
I thought that Islam was a religion and not a race!
The Lord of the Rings is a more credible and relevant book to me as an Englishman than the Koran.
The Mister Men books have more facts and logic than the koran.
Can't force people on others.
Did this council get their idea from Hamas 😂
Poor Ian he looks bit worried at points of this interview, the orchestrated take down of England is working , England is gone in every sense
It's a religion, not a race.🥵🥵🥵
It is a fact that as it stands now, sharia is incompatible with UK law; sharia often contradicts UK law on many of the UK's stances on justice. It is also a fact that polls suggest that 40% of the Muslim community want sharia to become UK law, and even more Muslims would not mind if sharia did in fact become the law. This highlights the incompatibility at its core. Sharia DOES NOT uphold UK values or ideals; it, in fact, does the opposite and suppresses many of them. If the Muslim community wants to reduce Islamophobia, call out those within your faith doing these things, find platforms to amplify your voices, don't hide from the criticism if the criticism is accurate, and don't call something alleged if it really happened. This will only increase racial tensions and simply shows you're not willing to do your part and treat the natives with respect, and if you don't treat them with respect, don't expect to be respected in return.
Very well stated 😊
Anglophobia is allowed in England??? Really?
Are people here discriminated against because of their religion???
What "Muslim community" ?
Stop giving him credit
They do know that Tribalism is in their holy orders?
Grooming gangs are illegal but it doesn’t stop them. It’s me me me all the time
9:29 'slims target people who follow Jewish faith.
If Britain is a multi cultural society then all races and religions should be respected, heard and treated equally. How can Britain serve Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs, Druze, Zoroastrianism, Judaism, Yazidis, Christians (all sectors) atheists, humanists, wiccans etc etc and every other faith and none equally. Social cohesion is treating everyone equally, not giving in to a 2 billion highly financed global religious lobbying pressure group.
Agreed upon by whom?
Surely this cannot stick in the United Kingdom this law it should need to be forbidden this is democracy country Islam is a muslim faith and Muslim faith are exactly the same as any other faith around the world there is no such thing as islamophobia criticising a religion isn't racist is an opinion and within this country you have freedom to speak to which is democracy Angela Rayner to stop processing this through the back door is an absolute insult to British people
Intentions and unintended consequences.
It's not racism....it's about a religion.
We are so scared of them now we don't want to offend them
The last thing we need is a codified definition of any of this. The idea that the average person will be allowed to have a theological debate is exactly what the danger of this is. Nobody needs permission to have a view on any subject especially religion and in any case there are no theological reasons behinds peoples view of extreme islam. It is behaviours that worry them and we don't need to be having their views scrutinised by a body that does not wish them well.
you can't have a debate with a muslim! ive done it many times they just don't have the ability to accept they might be wrong as it is drummed into them from such an early age and almost impossible to leave or question its validity! thats the problem in a nutshell. look at Sweden as one of many examples, now the 2nd most dangerous country and highest rape of the whole of europe
How about anti British discrimination by this regime?
I imagine Synagogues have also been targeted as well.
This guy is talking about a bit of vandilism and graffiti but doesn't want to talk about pop concerts being blwon up ...
We all can see this only for the Muslim voters. Labour are desperate.
So many assertions that should have been challenged. Example - not all followers of religion are 'extremely emotional' of their faith. Name another faith that has acted upon someone scuffing their so-called holy book. And if a faith follower did, other co-members would immediately call them out for being so hyper-sensitive over damaged paper and ink.
She needs to crack on with building these 1.5M houses.!!🧐🙄😡🇬🇧✌🏾
Labour is not going to stop here. First it’s our freedom of speech, then our culture and next our traditions
Even if you hate Nigel Farage or Richard Tice, we must vote for Reform or except the consequences at the next G/E
Conflating race and religion. This man ally is a 5th columnist.
Just GO AWAY