The 928 is an extraordinary car. I have owned three: an S4, a GTS and another GTS. All with a manual transmission. But I must say that the auto adds an extra smoothness to the way it runs. I still own a 1995 GTS manual which I drive five/six times a year, but I would like to add a GTS auto to my collection.
I really like your videos, they're very professional and you know how to capture a cars beauty from the best angles. To be able to drive these wonderful cars is a dream come true. My favourite car of all time is definitely the Ferrari Dino 246 GT which you have also covered (GTS to be exact). Keep up the good work!
Thanks so much Dyniel that you took the time to give me a boost. My channel is up to a new fase where the 'beautiful shots' will be accompanied by a story. Sometimes a vlog by myself, sometimes another presenter. Working on the details, and launching by September 1st 2016. Nice to read that the DIno is your favorite car. In fact it's mine too, but it shares that place with the Ferrari Daytona ;-). Regards, Walter
As to the passion, I kind of know what you mean...but as others have noted, you were driving an automatic and not the rarer and more desirable 5-speed and I also don't know whether you floored it. I owned for 15 years a beautiful black 1979 928 5-speed and both the cat. converter and resonator were removed although I had the stock muffler...the sound was great and much throatier than the GTS you drove-I recall test driving a used 93 GTS automatic with cat. converter etc. and found it lacked the grunt/passion of my 79. Few of them raced in North America but the best was the white shark as it was known driven and owned by Mark Anderson who owns the parts supplier 928 International in California. Below are a couple of videos of Mark racing (the shorter clip has commentary from the Speed TV Channel about the glorious sound of the V8). I think he built/raced a couple of 928 GTS's but the 928 in the first video below at Road America (in 2002 I believe) was his 1988 928 S4 but stroked to 6.4 litres and with a GTS 5 speed transmission. You will see and hear the "passion" both from the outside V8 sound going by in the first video and in the second video from the inside of the 928 driven by Mark (video says it was a GTS but I think it might have still been the 88 S4) going through the gears and "decimating" the rest of the pack at Willow Springs in 2003. The sound of Mark's modified 928 is to die for but my old one was pretty cool too and had just the right passion/sound and comfort and elegance for the GT cruiser which it was on the highways up here in and around Toronto for 15 summers. ruclips.net/video/We7IS_afCww/видео.html ruclips.net/video/P29nHru4fvI/видео.html
Remove the rear muffler (this still leaves you with the 2 initial mufflers) and then tell me you can't get any sound out of it! This is a common modification.
I put an X pipe on mine deleting the cats. OMG what a mid range sound and mellow with a light foot. I cruise at 80 mph om the highway and I can't hear the exhaust but when you put the hammer down......soooo sweet.
I think it looks better without the red reflector strip on the back. Would absolutely love one in white with a manual transmission in right hand drive.
Yes, and then of course we also have some technical limitations on how we can record the sound... so... cars just have to make more noise ;-). Regards, Walter
There is only one way to record proper sound and that is by putting the car on a dyno or mount a professional microphone near the exhaust. That is almost never possible to achieve.
How about 421.7 RW hp normally aspirated, 8000 rpm redline and a top speed of 206 mph for passion? I'm not the quickest off the line (0-60 in 4.4 sec) and not the quickest in a 1/4 mile (12.4@113 mph) but everything after that???? hmmm...Lets go!
So if I understand your supposed logic, as spelled out in the title of this video and the first sentence in your description above, the reason the car lacks passion is because it didn't make lots of noise. Well with that reasoning I don't want to meet your spouse.
Never could figure out why these -- the 928s and the 924s (and 944s) never really caught on. I guess the configuration was just too much for the Porsche community. In the 70s and 80s when they came out, the company ran ads that looked like something out of Scientific American magazine, and their brochures had the same look. I remember collecting those brochures for their artistic appeal and thinking, well, maybe someday... But that never happened. At this point, finding one that was relatively inexpensive ($$) didn't need major work ($$$$$$) would probably be impossible.
Priviliged as I am to drive lots of great cars and among them lots of Porsches I instantly knew what the problem was. This car really, really lacks passion. It is not playful at all and therefore an a-typical Porsche. In the cockpit you almost do not hear the engine and it has more of a GT-handling than the other Porsche models. Regards, Walter
Then I think you missed the entire point of the 928. It IS in fact a GT car, so it's not supposed to be as loud or uncivilized (or supposed to possess other quirky characteristics that some construe as passion) as a 911. Also, they are very quiet with stock exhaust. Put an RMB on there, and it will almost certainly sound better than any derivation of the 911.
Err.. because they were expensive. At the time, only the 911 turbo topped the 928 in price. The 928 was also very capable, looking at its Ring time; seated 4 adults and had the best sound of all Porsches. A true GT.
If you think this car lacks passion, I couldn't ever listen to your opinion again. Who drives an auto one anyway? You are clearly missing the point of the car
Fair Warning, If anyone ever tries to sell you a 928...........just walk away, don't even look back. Even if it's free, walk away. All these comments about "My Dream Car"..........i know every square inch of a 928, not from choice, or curiosity, but from pure frustration. First thing I found out about 928s, no mechanic will touch this car for less than $400 an hr, so if you still dreaming of 928s........You better know how to turn some wrenches. Want to paint a 928? Good luck finding a paint shop that will even attempt it and if they will........you better have wheelbarrows of cash somewhere. Finding parts is possible but your local Napa isn't carrying much stock for this car. Ooh, and the motor has to come out from under the car. Let's not forget about that jewel. I love my 928, but I have no choice, after everything this car has put me through, I better love it. They are a hand full to keep on the road. Anything major breaks on it, and you will quickly find out fixing it, will cost more than its worth. And this car is not easy to work on. My old man warned me when I bought mine, but 928s make some of the best sounding V8s and I was hooked. But if I could go back 15 years I would of took my dad's advice. Walk away
dave runner The 928 S4's top speed was over 170mph. It could also do 0-62mph in about 5.5 seconds. These figures were very good for the late '80's, so the engine certainly 'put out'. They were also very stable and solid, with no rattles or lift, like some other supercars from the era. Btw, I've owned two, a 1983 928S, and a 1987 928S4. I would love to own a GTS, but they are very rare and seldom come up for sale.
The original marriage destroyer and wallet raper - these are expensive cars to maintain and more expensive to fix. A rich man's car in the day - a richer man's car today. Don't get me wrong, they're lovely and everything you dream about but holy holy can things go wrong.
The auto was great if you were using it as a daily car. It added smoothness and comfort. The 5 speed manual was slow and the clutch was heavy, with a long travel. A solution: get both versions.
Better than smashed bug 911 of the 80s imho, driven a S4 many years ago, what a machine.......
The 928 is an extraordinary car.
I have owned three: an S4, a GTS and another GTS. All with a manual transmission. But I must say that the auto adds an extra smoothness to the way it runs.
I still own a 1995 GTS manual which I drive five/six times a year, but I would like to add a GTS auto to my collection.
Thank you, David. Enjoy your 928!
David a che manifestazioni la porti la GTS di solito? (Nel caso ci fosse possibilità di vederla dal vivo).
This is not a car but a masterpiece on wheels
Its unrivaled beauty shall remain forever when you will be all driving dodgems
"squeeze some sound"??? The 928 sounds so good that they dubbed over the delorean in the back to future movies!
That is a cool fact! Didn't know that! Thanks :)
I'm getting an errection, best Porsche ever
Beautiful car, I want one.
Suppose you reconsider, for once in ur life.
I really like your videos, they're very professional and you know how to capture a cars beauty from the best angles. To be able to drive these wonderful cars is a dream come true. My favourite car of all time is definitely the Ferrari Dino 246 GT which you have also covered (GTS to be exact). Keep up the good work!
Thanks so much Dyniel that you took the time to give me a boost. My channel is up to a new fase where the 'beautiful shots' will be accompanied by a story. Sometimes a vlog by myself, sometimes another presenter. Working on the details, and launching by September 1st 2016. Nice to read that the DIno is your favorite car. In fact it's mine too, but it shares that place with the Ferrari Daytona ;-). Regards, Walter
As to the passion, I kind of know what you mean...but as others have noted, you were driving an automatic and not the rarer and more desirable 5-speed and I also don't know whether you floored it. I owned for 15 years a beautiful black 1979 928 5-speed and both the cat. converter and resonator were removed although I had the stock muffler...the sound was great and much throatier than the GTS you drove-I recall test driving a used 93 GTS automatic with cat. converter etc. and found it lacked the grunt/passion of my 79. Few of them raced in North America but the best was the white shark as it was known driven and owned by Mark Anderson who owns the parts supplier 928 International in California. Below are a couple of videos of Mark racing (the shorter clip has commentary from the Speed TV Channel about the glorious sound of the V8). I think he built/raced a couple of 928 GTS's but the 928 in the first video below at Road America (in 2002 I believe) was his 1988 928 S4 but stroked to 6.4 litres and with a GTS 5 speed transmission. You will see and hear the "passion" both from the outside V8 sound going by in the first video and in the second video from the inside of the 928 driven by Mark (video says it was a GTS but I think it might have still been the 88 S4) going through the gears and "decimating" the rest of the pack at Willow Springs in 2003. The sound of Mark's modified 928 is to die for but my old one was pretty cool too and had just the right passion/sound and comfort and elegance for the GT cruiser which it was on the highways up here in and around Toronto for 15 summers.
ruclips.net/video/We7IS_afCww/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/P29nHru4fvI/видео.html
Remove the rear muffler (this still leaves you with the 2 initial mufflers) and then tell me you can't get any sound out of it! This is a common modification.
I put an X pipe on mine deleting the cats. OMG what a mid range sound and mellow with a light foot. I cruise at 80 mph om the highway and I can't hear the exhaust but when you put the hammer down......soooo sweet.
I think it looks better without the red reflector strip on the back. Would absolutely love one in white with a manual transmission in right hand drive.
The S4 was the pick of the bunch as far as looks went.
The S4 looks like a jelly bean. All subjective, many people like me prefer the S1 and S2 styling
@@928pcar Como bien dices,es subjetivo, tengo un S4 del 89 manual, y sinceramente me gusta mucho mas el acabado del GTS
This was my dream car.
What happened? 😄
If you got your hands on a 5 speed, it would have been another matter. Even if you started shifting that Auto by hand you could have got it to scream.
Yes, and then of course we also have some technical limitations on how we can record the sound... so... cars just have to make more noise ;-). Regards, Walter
Ah! I was wondering why the 911s were so quiet! Great job! :)
There is only one way to record proper sound and that is by putting the car on a dyno or mount a professional microphone near the exhaust. That is almost never possible to achieve.
Yeah, my GoPro sure doesn't cut it... haha!
The 928 GTS was made only until 1995. There were no 1996 models.
Andrew B thanks Andrew! Ciao, Walter
The last year Porsche 928GTS was 1995 not 1996.
How about 421.7 RW hp normally aspirated, 8000 rpm redline and a top speed of 206 mph for passion? I'm not the quickest off the line (0-60 in 4.4 sec) and not the quickest in a 1/4 mile (12.4@113 mph) but everything after that???? hmmm...Lets go!
This could had been logans car on "logans run".
So if I understand your supposed logic, as spelled out in the title of this video and the first sentence in your description above, the reason the car lacks passion is because it didn't make lots of noise. Well with that reasoning I don't want to meet your spouse.
Haha, good one!
Imagine a 928 with PDK...
Imagine a world without Porsche......wouldn't THAT be great???
Never could figure out why these -- the 928s and the 924s (and 944s) never really caught on. I guess the configuration was just too much for the Porsche community. In the 70s and 80s when they came out, the company ran ads that looked like something out of Scientific American magazine, and their brochures had the same look. I remember collecting those brochures for their artistic appeal and thinking, well, maybe someday... But that never happened. At this point, finding one that was relatively inexpensive ($$) didn't need major work ($$$$$$) would probably be impossible.
Priviliged as I am to drive lots of great cars and among them lots of Porsches I instantly knew what the problem was. This car really, really lacks passion. It is not playful at all and therefore an a-typical Porsche. In the cockpit you almost do not hear the engine and it has more of a GT-handling than the other Porsche models. Regards, Walter
Then I think you missed the entire point of the 928. It IS in fact a GT car, so it's not supposed to be as loud or uncivilized (or supposed to possess other quirky characteristics that some construe as passion) as a 911. Also, they are very quiet with stock exhaust. Put an RMB on there, and it will almost certainly sound better than any derivation of the 911.
The question was why this model did not really catch on. After experiencing the car I could imagine what the problem was. That's all. No worries. ;-)
Err.. because they were expensive. At the time, only the 911 turbo topped the 928 in price. The 928 was also very capable, looking at its Ring time; seated 4 adults and had the best sound of all Porsches. A true GT.
If you think this car lacks passion, I couldn't ever listen to your opinion again. Who drives an auto one anyway? You are clearly missing the point of the car
Fair Warning, If anyone ever tries to sell you a 928...........just walk away, don't even look back. Even if it's free, walk away. All these comments about "My Dream Car"..........i know every square inch of a 928, not from choice, or curiosity, but from pure frustration. First thing I found out about 928s, no mechanic will touch this car for less than $400 an hr, so if you still dreaming of 928s........You better know how to turn some wrenches. Want to paint a 928? Good luck finding a paint shop that will even attempt it and if they will........you better have wheelbarrows of cash somewhere. Finding parts is possible but your local Napa isn't carrying much stock for this car. Ooh, and the motor has to come out from under the car. Let's not forget about that jewel. I love my 928, but I have no choice, after everything this car has put me through, I better love it. They are a hand full to keep on the road. Anything major breaks on it, and you will quickly find out fixing it, will cost more than its worth. And this car is not easy to work on. My old man warned me when I bought mine, but 928s make some of the best sounding V8s and I was hooked. But if I could go back 15 years I would of took my dad's advice. Walk away
Best car shape ever, so bad the engine didn't put out.
dave runner 175MPH I think it put out
Yes - common misconception, the engine is a beast (if you know how to drive one, & it's not that complicated)
Point was if Porsche had tried just a bit harder it could have been a 200 mph super car. Just me.
Thats why folks do ls swaps on them....
dave runner The 928 S4's top speed was over 170mph. It could also do 0-62mph in about 5.5 seconds. These figures were very good for the late '80's, so the engine certainly 'put out'. They were also very stable and solid, with no rattles or lift, like some other supercars from the era. Btw, I've owned two, a 1983 928S, and a 1987 928S4. I would love to own a GTS, but they are very rare and seldom come up for sale.
that video blew DOG..
928 GTS lacks passion? 😂
Tire hiss, road noise, but no Engine sounds...
Exactly what my experience as a driver was too, Luis! 😁
@@SuperCarClassicsTV Not enough NVH for Stuttgart?
The original marriage destroyer and wallet raper - these are expensive cars to maintain and more expensive to fix. A rich man's car in the day - a richer man's car today. Don't get me wrong, they're lovely and everything you dream about but holy holy can things go wrong.
Very god car , very goog performance but nat good sound ....
the auto transmission ruined the car!
Yes, not my cup of tea either 😅
The auto was great if you were using it as a daily car. It added smoothness and comfort.
The 5 speed manual was slow and the clutch was heavy, with a long travel. A solution: get both versions.
Automatic...can't watch this.
Today the best thing to do is find a clean 928 and drop the kraut motor and put in a modern LS GM performance crate motor.
mehhh that sounds horibble idea lol stock is the way to go.
Cheap LS crap? No thanks