Atheist Experience 22.52 with Tracie Harris & Jen Peeples
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- 10:40 Misty: NE: How to Explain Death in a Secular Way to Children
21:55 Brojo: WA: Death, Definition of Atheism, Is Atheism True?, (Preaching), Claims/Evidence
37:30 Rose: MO: Do Atheists Think Religion is a Cult?
47:05 Craig: AL: How to be Atheist Without Being an Ass
1:02:45 Isaac: FL: “Metaphysical” Questions, “I Don’t Know” Isn’t Valid, Consciousness
1:20:35 Minh: Antioch, CA: Is Metaphorical Belief Less Harmful Than Literal?, Empathy
1:46:15 Chuck: Fullerton, CA: Contradictions in the Bible
2:02:00 Steven: Tomball, TX: Shooting Star After Deceased Loved One, Signs from God
The Atheist Experience 22.52 December 30, 2018 with Tracie Harris & Jen Peeples.
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The show is usually st its best when Tracie & Jen host.
No, it's Matt Dillahunty who is the best host.
@@psandbergnz Sometimes Matt's AMAZINGLY CLEVER and sometimes his tactics can backfire and escalate theist callers anger and make them defensive and worse. (Although, that's entertaining too!)
But Tracy is like a steady rock foundation as a host. Not as quick and charismatic as Matt can be, but more consistent and easier to communicate with.
What I always find interesting is that Matt uses sharp and precise arguments to shut down combative callers. Tracy usually goes a different route and disarms angry and combative callers with patient questioning. Like a teacher talking to a child.
So it's neat to have two different methods produce a similar result.
And I appreciate the variety. I like Jen's calm confidence, and Phil Session's kindness. The varying personalities guarantee the show will continue far into the future. And we all have favorites, but I don't really think there IS a "best" host.
Tracie on top form. Smart, rational, down to earth and not letting anyone get away with any nonsense.
You forgot to mention super good looking too!
@@jirenthegray2904 I didn't forget. People perving over her on here does get a bit tiresome.
@@laurieharper1526 You're not wrong there 😅
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Tracie may have surpassed Matt in debating prowess.
Tracie is the best. She is intelligent and articulate.
She has a logic laser and empathy. She's cheerful and positive. She's very pleasant to listen to.
Jenn is also great! And now we have Jenna Belk! We'll miss Jenn and Tracie!
I love Tracie's mind...I think her and Matt have become a bit long winded. Jen has wonderful perspectives. I wish there was more "Air" sharing on the part of Tracie and Matt with there co-host. There are time in which had I been a co-host, I would have excused myself and went home.
That Brojo guy got destroyed at every single point. But is too arrogant too see it.
I think this is the first time he's spoken to anyone outside his damn church-group.
The dynamic duo at it again!
They are definitely power hitters.
My personal favourite duo on this show 👌 calm, collected and unbeaten. Love them!
I see Tracie Harris, I click.
In Luke chapter 14, Jesus says that when you make a feast, do not invite your friends and relatives, instead invite the poor, the maimed, the lame and the blind.
At the last supper, he invited his 12 friends.
Hypocrisy at its finest! Good find!
oh its a metaphor.
you're not understanding the bible.
you should consult a scholar.
you misinterpreted the quote.
that's a misconception.
Choose your respond.
@@maxsmith4412
If you read my comment carefully, you will see that I didn't interpret anything.
I just stated two facts from the Bible with no interpretation at all.
I left it up to you to do the interpretation.
You did and you didn't like it !
@@maxsmith4412
In Matthew 12:40 Jesus says...
"So shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth".
What did he mean ? Who is the Son of man ? Where is the heart of the earth ?
And which three nights did he mean ? Friday night, Saturday night , Sunday night ?
I love how they continually cornered Brojo to support his own position that a god exists and he couldn't do it. All he tried to do was add positions to atheism which have nothing to do with atheism and attack those and he even failed at that. He even said at one point that there are no brute facts. Really? The Earth doesn't orbit the Sun? Not a brute fact? This is how deluded theists brains have become to justify their positions.
and theyre 'naturalists'... So, is he a supernaturalist as well? if so, then he believes is crazy shit and is a crazy craze. next.
Bravo Craig from Alabama! You are so brutally honest.. 👏🏼👏🏼
Nesto
A bit rough around the edges, but Craig's okay. 👍
CULT: a small, unsuccessful Religion.
RELIGION: a large successful Cult.
Brojo = asshole
100% asshole.
I love how hosts on the show catch themselves when about to say "begs the question" in a conversational sense and substitute it with "raises the question". That's how you know you're a logic god.
~ I feel so bad for people that are not always in close proximity to rational human beings: in remote countries around the world, rural sections of western nations, the Arctic Circle, Nebraska - thank you, Jen and Tracie, for helping callers! Cheers, DAVEDJ ~
love how Brojo is mixing up Judaism and Christianity and he is claiming that most Christians don't believe in eternal life after death..... and he is whining about incorrect representation of the Christian position
I run a discord server so I am an expert on everything! Um... They take about 3 minutes to set up. And then I can invite all kinds of other idiots.
@@PrimRoseLane I wonder how the "debates" on there go... has he never been challenged about the whole "claiming what your opponents beliefs are" thing, or does he simply not listen?
Well... or he's just too stupid to get it.
"When thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind" Luke 14:13.
That's something I've been telling my rich friends for many years.
The main thing (excluding the absurdity of the bible stories) that turned me away from religion was the legions of spiteful, mentally abusive people claiming to be the good chosen by God guys. Constantly telling me to blindly follow their rules and not think or else they would look down from heaven me with glee while I was burning in hell.
Virgil Blue...blindly follow our rules???
No.......way!
That's part of the reason I left religion. I was made to go to catholic school, surrounded by hundreds of other "little angels" and dozens of fine upstanding catholic adults, but a huge number of them (kids and adults) were assholes and treated me like shit. I guess that whole "love thy neighbor" thing that was preached in church twice a week went in one ear and out the other as they sat there thinking there were forgiven and "saved".
Virgil
It's their christian 'love'.
I use tears of joy when speaking to my children about death. That we can love some one so much that the love overwhelms us to tears.
"And I'm your God"
Priceless 😁
"there is a difference between a soul and a spirit" Holy hell, I love this channel!!!
Brojo wins first place in Dunning-Kruger syndrome.
Love this duo
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We have a cult in Ohio named Xenos. They tell their members to not associate with non-cult members except to try to recruit them. They also tell members they can’t have sex outside of marriage and they aggressively question anyone who has a romantic relationship outside of marriage. They pass the cult off as everybody in the cult being happy and having all these friends in the cult, but it’s still a cult.
I am never going to understand why people believe that it's totally ok that a complex being could be around forever, but there had to be a beginning for a particle.
@The Antagonizer I don't like absolutes. Choosing one over the other makes a big difference, one says that we keep searching for the answer, the other says we give up and attribute all we don't CURRENTLY know to some mystical being that was created for just that reason, because people gave up searching for the truth.
@@jlsc4125 A lot of people are more emotional than cerebral, so they'll often yield to tradition over reason. There are also the ones who are just victims of religious indoctrination. The particle argument used in this video is a derogatory product of their need to satisfy their emotional attachments and indoctrination. God won't back up their arguments and beliefs, so their arguments are often fallacious in the attempt to make up for the fact that the supreme being their ancestors, and children, may have spent so much of their time on their knees for, won't back them up.
Lastly, it's also just easier to dismiss doing the leg work necessary to discover what is true, in favor of the lazy option of bowing down to ancient documents.
Jl sc Because they dont know how to evaluate evidence.
@The Antagonizer I have no idea what your ultimate truth even means, and your comments are just a garbled waste of the language.
@@inertiaforce7846 I actually think a lot of them do have a pretty good idea of how to evaluate evidence. Most of them do it fairly successfully in almost every other aspect of their lives. They've been trained to turn that part of their brain off when it comes to religion though. It becomes almost painful and terrifying for them to think critically about big questions.
For Misty; The correct response to the your child asking "What do you think?" is to explain to your child what you think. It sounds like you were describing the range of beliefs or what others think. The child can sense your hesitation and notices you avoiding the question.
This poor woman, she has no confidence in herself AT all. She doesn't seem to think she has good reasons for her beliefs or that she is able to express them.
That first call resulted in a really important thing that we all tend to forget - that life really is so very fleeting and precious. Make the most of it, really make the most of it.
Brojo built a whole army of Strawmen, then marched them out for ridicule by people with Brains.
Yeah but yeah but yeah but JELLYFISH DON’T HAVE BRAINS AND THEY HAVE CONSCIOUSNESS!!!
-Batsh!t Isaac
Craig sounded a little like Elvis. I got no problem with that.
How does Isaac know so much about so many things that he couldn't possibly know.
His invisible friend told him!
All bow to god Tracie :D
Brojos ignorance is ASTOUNDING... IMPENETRABLE! THIS, is what's wrong with the world. Gullibility on a level all it's own.
Science should be taught in church.
Hallelujah brother. Can I get an amen. Open your physics book n turn to chapter 3, Gravity. 😂
I don't think they will understand science ,it doesn't include the trinity, faith ,fear ,and finance
I don't know how my microwave oven works, so I'll call the atheist experience and ask them.
I love these two.
I always tell people to watch Psycicist, Neil de Grasse Tyson on You Tube or his Podcast's. He always explains twinkling/shooting stars/things/weird sightings in a way regular folks can understand and of course, he's an atheist,
I miss these two.
The TV's frame rate unsync is causing a headache inducing effect.
LOL, Yeah sure. I was hoping the crew sees this comment so they can get a better TV, increase the frame rate of the TV, or get rid of the TV entirely. @Ian M
Craig obviously had a lot to get off his chest. Seems like a nice guy though.
Love you guys so much, but I'm a little concerned about the part of the discussion where a point was made that some people with schizophrenia do not need medication. I am not schizophrenic myself but I have a very close long-time friend who is and it is my understanding from speaking to her about this issue that refusing necessary medication is a common problem among those with schizophrenia. I worry that reinforcing the idea that those suffering from auditory hallucinations can get by without treatment is harmful because there may be viewers with schizophrenia who understand their hallucinations are just hallucinations one day, and then the next day not be able to distinguish between their hallucinations and reality. My friend stays on constant low grade medication but sometimes has to check herself into the hospital and increase medication for periods of time because her schizophrenic episodes temporarily worsen. She always has some symptoms that she is aware of but sometimes her symptoms increase and require more care than her normal prescription. It is the lower grade medication that helps her to identify when her episodes are about to require that additional level of help. Without it, she would not have the awareness. I don't know if this is the case for every schizophrenic, but it isn't uncommon for hallucinations to come in cycles of severity. A non-medicated schizophrenic may not be able to recognize their condition is cycling into more severe territory where medication is absolutely necessary. So I hope there was no one listening who will decide to cease medication based on the idea that they can always manage their hallucinations without meds.
Everytime I've ever heard of someone who is schizophrenic going off their meds it sounds like it goes really really badly... and the people I hear about who are schizophrenic, or bipolar who say they are doing great off their meds usually come off as manic and delusional. Its so sad.
I love when Jen gets all grin-y
What is the discord server that this guy is talking about?
Thedankclank12 We need to get in there and wreck
1:17:56
The most ingenuous person I've ever heard in my life. He say one thing and once it's broken down he back tracks suddenly to something else. And he claims to be a big fan of science?? Laughable beyond words... now that's "metaphysical" 😂😂💀⚰️
BroJo is like all Bishops from allll the world! 🙄🤨 “I do everything to be looks like as a true, to proof of my god is truly-true, and my faith will be the true”
🤘
Thank you Brojo for emphasising how stupid theists are.
An Dyslexic with Autism here 🙋♂️
Diagnosed with Aspergers, back when that was an actual diagnosis.
Good episode!
You guys are incredible and I have such crushes on both of you. In a purely platonic way.
I love you ladies
I love the "I don't care what you call it, that's what I mean," thought process. I try really hard not to get into semantic arguments. I told you what I mean, who cares what you call me.
Ugh... you're a complete moron.
Ok. This is typical of "RUclips great debaters", especially the ones without an actual education. You "study up" on the big names Aron Ra, Matt Dillahunty, Non- Sequitur, etc.) And then you think you're a pro debater and get some stick up your ass and come to The Atheist Experience, bitching about some trending semantic argument...
Yeah, there's a reasonable argument about the use of the terms "Atheist/Agnostic" and yeah, there's been some traction on this debate that landed on Matt Dillahunty's plate (Chiefly from Steve Mcrea). Now, take that information and talk to the people involved. Don't assume that everyone in the Atheist community follows the same bullshit that you do. That's not what this show is about. Go contact the Non sequitur show, see if they can be bothered with you. I warn you though, I looked at your channel, you're just going to get laughed at if you do. You might think you have this on lockdown but you aren't shooting with a loaded gun bro. I seriously suggest a lot more reading or getting a formal education first.
You are one big dumbass
I love these two it's like listening to public radio
I've got the same laptop as jen, that's what i'm watching this on haha
The purpose of pets is to teach children about death and sex...
In reference to the homophobic email:
Natural selection does not require our help.
Behaviors that have no positive impact on the reproduction of a population will generally not be selected for. Other behavioral traits (likely including homosexuality as well as other atypical sexual traits) have a neutral impact on the reproduction of population groups. Either neutral or negative, no action is required on individuals that have these behavioral traits. If their behavior has a net negative impact on reproduction the frequency of their genes will simply decrease or disappear from the general populations gene pool.
It's also fair to mention that, if this is not already the case, that sexual behaviors that we consider atypical may actually have a net positive effect on the reproduction of the population and that productive sexual behavior among humans could eventually become non binary as it has in other species.
I'd like to make a GoFundMe me for brojo to go to a psychotherapist. He needs analization.
That Brojo guy has a major problem with assumptions. Disgusting.
Brojo should realize he is also an atheist with respect to all religions except christianity. Full blown atheist is an atheist with respect to all religions.
1:09.30 “Now you’ve left the building”
HAHAHAHAHA
Poor Brojo 😪
Morals are metaphysical? Lmao!
Wish someone would give an example of something metaphysical
Brojo doesn't know what atheism is and neither do most people. Brojo and most people do not seem to understand that atheism does not make a claim. The only thing that atheism says is "we don't know what's going on". That is not a claim. To say I don't know is not a claim and therefore does not require a burden of evidence. To say I don't know and therefore I'm not convinced that you do requires no burden of evidence. Atheism makes no claim and therefore has no burden of evidence. The uneducated and ignorant masses do not understand this about atheism.
Jesus loves you and wants you to follow Him ❤ He is the way, the truth, and the life. I was an atheist for years until I had a supernatural encounter with Jesus that profoundly changed my life. The gift of salvation and eternal life is available to all who put their trust in Jesus. He can heal you of the deepest pain and shame. Seek Him with a genuine and humble heart and He will reveal His existence to you.
@Hannah11235.maybe your God is too busy revealing himself to folk that he has no time to save any of the 9 million much prayed for children who die before they are 5 EVERY YEAR.or the many millions of people who die each YEAR from diseases,tornadoes,floods,eathquakes,sunamis and such..Gee one might think that the Christian God is no more real than any of the 7,000 plus gods that have been proposed by humans over time in hundreds of different languages and in hundreds of different countries.i am sorry that people whom you trusted fed you this bronze age nonsense that came from fearful uneducated superstitious misogynistic bronze age desert tribesmen in the most backward part of the middle east.
Good show you have the religious nutjobs and then you get Craig who seems like such sweetheart. By the way I was at the zombie run in San Antonio fun times.
Where can I find the emails about homosexuality?
Matt hangs up whereas Tracy send them to the dreaded blog. Different tactic - same result.
What the fuck is Brojo talking about? The most popular bible verse in history says that whoever believes in shall not perish but have eternal life
Harris and Peeples are a couple of cool right-on chicks!
Why is there no Hamish show, WHY‽
Hey Brojo, let's take a look at the definition of "Christian" in the Merriam-Webster dictionary: "one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ." Nothing at all about who God is or how the earth began. Nothing at all about the Apostle Paul or the trinity or eternal torture or salvation. I wonder if he would depend on that for his self-identity.
Brojo reminds me of Woody Allen
The caller "Erojo" is the living definition of ignorance.
Question for all; why not reject the Idea that the god described in all books is just not real? As evidenced by every episode of this show, Christopher Hitchins , Dawkins and all the others . I think a lot of callers try to argue from the basic definition of a god and then try to work them selves in to proving scriptures.. is very annoying
Because it's what they were brainwashed to believe in since they were 2 year olds.
Isaac of FL: an example of how theism messes up one's mind. Isaac's mind seems salvageable and should start questioning his religious beliefs
I hate to disagree, but plant consciousness is actually being studied. Too soon to draw any conclusions, but its an interesting new field.
Wonder where this consciousness would reside
Isaac started with metaphysics , Tracy got rid of metaphysics after some debate with Isaac for him to jump to supernatural in his next line instead!!
@@isaacdominguez474 You failed to explain your terms, which was the problem.
@@isaacdominguez474
Haha.
You never said what any of your weird words. She kept asking for you to school her and you failed.
The opposite would be antitheism!
This must be why no one likes Brojo
This is making me dizzy, arguing in circles all the time...
As a former drug user I can tell you that Craig is on meth. But Craig is redeemable.
I'm surprised at how many people from Bham are calling into the these atheist sessions... from both sides of the aisle. We seem to be a binary society down here.
The question why not extrem atheism is a good question though. Because the claim that there really is a DC Superman is the same as rediculous as there is a god who is all knowing, omnipotent being in the sky.
There is a diffrence between if somthing is probable and somthing being imaginable. If I have no dices the probability of any otcome is 0. I can still imagine I have a dice though.
i disagree with the panel about plants not having consciousness. in cold climates, they seem 2 shut down during the winter (grass, trees, etc) . THE HIDDEN LIFE OF TREES:
by Peter Wohlleben. Or THE PRIVATE LIFE OF PLANTS by David Attenborough .
Brojo: Christianities' Barney Fife.
Tracie, satellites will fade out and disappear as they cross the sky when they move into the Earth's shadow. I've found it very rare to see a satellite from one side of the sky to the other without it going dark.
I've never seen a satellite, but my wife's a Seattleite. Does that count?
The last ones I saw were Sputnik I and Sputnik II. II was cool because it was tumbling and that made it flash as the sunlight hit it. Yes, I'm that old.
You don't make claims because all you have to do is see with your eyes and say what you see. Faith in God is not designed for us to see entirely with our eyes. Just because you can't explain things, it does not mean they don't exist. It only means you don't know. With this said, let us pray to God so that we will see.
The 2nd caller is a pain in the ass.
He was dense as fuck.
Genesis 1: 14, the stars are for signs...
Google, the Northern Cross, by Aquilla Fleetwood, youtube!
Google, Night Signs, by Aquilla Fleetwood, youtube!
The talk about no empathy is interesting. I actually lack empathy and emotions as a whole but people tend to think I'm pretty nice because i just do things objectively without real biases and hesitation. Always really good with the customer service because just always level and friendly. Get yelled at and people think i should be mean or grumpy but it's just business. If you fight then you lose so there is no reason to fight and if you get hostile to anyone it impacts their experience negatively which also affects work and the perspective of how well i perform.
Do you truly think you have anti-social personality disorder?
@@KD-ou2np i don't know about antisocial, I don't behave in antisocial ways. Attempted suicide out of boredom. Didn't cry when my father died. Maybe a depressive state to where I no longer care about most things. When i was younger they tested me for autism and for bipolar, but tests were negative. I was put on antidepressants when i was 10 or so but it just increased suicidal tendencies.
@@chaosryans APD, antisocial personality disorder is what people we typically calls sociopaths get diagnosed with. There are actually treatment methods for these people, and although they may never feel empathy like most human beings do, they are not automatically evil. A big thing that pops up for them is they sometimes attempt to manipulate people socially.
I don't know if you have that or not. It seems pretty extreme to claim you don't have emotions or empathy. Feelings crappy and depressed can suppress a lot of our emotions and empathetic feelings. If we have a lot of self hate and little internal empathy for our own pain, then it can be very difficult to feel empathy for others. Also, if you never see or learn expressions of emotion/empathy from the people who raise you, or who you spend your time around, that can affect you as well. And lastly, if you have autism that affects the way you experience social cues and things around you, and it can make you feel really different from everyone else and like you have trouble connecting.
Diagnosing kids younger than 10 with bipolar or other disorders is considered bad practice to a lot of psychiatrists. You might be on the spectrum, you might have major depressive disorder, or bipolar. You may a combination of those issues that compound to make life that much harder. Only you and your doctor can figure that out. I hope you keep trying to figure out what you are dealing with. Most people you meet will have difficulty understanding what you are going through, but believe it or not there are people out there who have experienced the things you experience... and they might have empathy for you, you might be able to learn from their experiences. That is one big thing a diagnosis can help you with.
@@KD-ou2np i see. When i was 18 i was sent to a suicide prevention center type place and I don't think they really spotted anything with me, but i also was inclined to lie about general suicidal tendencies because they tend to take away freedoms if they think you might hurt yourself. I figured once i paid off my house I might speak with some psychologists or something since i guess there's issues studying suicidal tendencies since a lot of people that do it tend to hide it like I did.
@@chaosryans if you have insurance, or can get insurance it may be affordable to see a psychiatrist or therapist. A psychiatrist is more interested in medication, how it affects your body and behavior, whereas a therapist will help you understand your feelings and behavior and possibly help you try to make changes in your life, if you think you want help with that.
Why did you consider suicide in the first place? Why did you decide you should not continue being alive?
I was waiting for Issac (Isaac) to throw some "quantums" into his bullshit. How did he fail to throw that in with his "metaphysical" in every sentence? And he was clearly trying to have a bigger Strawman army than Brojo. Apparently religious stupidity is a competition.
Personally, I think the distinction between "religion" and "cult" is one more of degree than anything else. I don't think they're the same, period. But I do think one is the very extreme version of the other.
Edit: Like, take for example the thing about religions and cults controlling who you associate with. In a cult that might be actually keeping you inside by using financial manipulation, heavy emotional manipulation, etc. in a religion though you'll hear things like "atheists are sinners" and might be kind of shamed or reprimanded if you associate with them. The first is just a very extreme version of the other, but both are trying to control who you associate with (and specifically so that you can't be lead away from the organization). Or the preacher thing Tracie mentioned. The cult leader pretends she speaks for god, so do the preachers. The difference is just that the people listening don't feel as compelled to believe one as the other or not to the same degree.
Tracie is god
Adam, do you take this horse to be...
Google, Paleo-Hebrew Word Pictures, by Aquilla Fleetwood, youtube!
Google, Paleo-Chinese Word pictures, by Aquilla Fleetwood, youtube!
Evidence of a horse? What, he left his shoes in the middle of the street? Horses are such slobs, I wish they'd learn to put their shoes away.
Plants have consciousness? Oh okay sure, do carry on.
I am an autistic 39 y.o., who loves to listen to theist schizophrenia and to play Kerbal all the time. I would rather treat schizophreniacs.
And by the way, you normal people are awkwardly crazy. You should learn the principles of being aitistic, and do your best!
Gabriele Simionato I’m also autistic💪🏽❤️. I’d love to see data on autistic belief. Like you, I’m hyper rational as a feature of my autism. (I also believe that we are part of the evolution of humanity thanks to our never before experienced incredible rapid information ingestion, but that’s another topic...,) but it seems to me that you wouldn’t find many believers that were autistic because they would require some sort of rational understanding for belief, and there isn’t any in theism.
@@CharlotteCrummMarketing This is really interesting. Do you have evidence that the rate of autism is increasing historically and that it may be selected for as a survival or reproductive advantage, if not for the individual, but possibly for the population?
I like Tracy but i feel like she tends to monopolize the conversation. I think that Jen has a lot of sensible things to say but not given a chance.
I once knew a donkey named Brojo.
BroJo is one of Darth Dawkins little bootlickers.
Tracie is a god
Btw. There are neurons in the stomach.
But consciousness?
I submit the following proof that there is no all powerful omni-benevolent god:
1. Assuming God is omnipotent, and omniscient, benevolent, and he also wants to expand his flock.
2. One day God decided to kill a parent, one of his own, a believer, because he can, or because he needed another angel or whatever unknowable reason he may have - and left two children to be raised by the other parent, a known life-long unconverted unbeliever.
3. Then that remaining parent taught those children to think for themselves, and they grew to have no belief in God. If he exists and is omni he of course knew all this ahead of time.
4. So God deliberately reduced his own flock, or is not omni-all, or both - so is not God.
5. Therefore God does not exist.