I have the Wilson Carbon with Ventus Red 7s and the Paradym Triple Diamond with Ventus Black Both Velocore Shafts. The Distance between these are equal. The difference is the Wilson is much more Forgiving and I find the fairways a lot more. Hope this helps 👍🏼
I've been playing Wilson irons for years...all the way back to my first set which were Wilson Goosenecks. And I still play Wilson irons which I believe are the best irons for the money on the market today and have been for years. I've played Callaway, Taylor Made, Titleist, PXG and Ping but I always come back to a Wilson forged iron....always. So I will be giving this driver a test driver for sure. I play a TSI 2 now and will test it side by side. I play off a 8 handicap so love the Carbon sound but I'll try both models because it's all about what performs for me. Dan keep producing great content and I really like the product reviews....please do " on the course" review of your favorites this year. Thanks again and keep it up!!!!!!!
After having a fitting for Taylor made and Callaway 2024 new models, I ended up switching from being a lifetime taylor made driver player to the Wilson Dynapwr Carbon and the difference is amazing. Speed is up, gained about 10-20m off the tee, forgiveness is amazing and the sound is the best sounding driver I've heard. The fact the Wilson was cheaper was just a bonus as the numbers and performance spoke for themselves. (FYI I'm 5hcp with a swing speed of 110mph)
I would happily try these Wilson said drivers. The brand has slipped down the pecking order over the years but I still produce excellent golf clubs. Without going for a fitting, I think the titanium model would suit me more than the carbon.
I bought a new driver last year so I am not in the market for a driver at this point in time. If I was in the market I would definitely make trying out the Dynapower line form Wilson at the top of my list. From all the reviews I have read and watched there seems to be surprise reaction to how good these drivers perform, sound and feel. I think Wilsons recent focus in the non iron markets is coming to fruition. I feel it is a good thing there are more valid options for buyers than less and Wilsons absence as a valid driver choice may be coming to an end. Good job.
Hi Dan I gave up golf snobbery a while ago in favour of the mizuno stz great club but too high launch very little run. my problem. Bought the carbon on the weekend & had a absolute ball with it. 15 yards on average 🎉 and workable. The AI is seriously impressive and for a 10 hdcp something that i didn't have previously is awesome. For me prices irrrelevent the club looks simple and does a great job well.
Have not hit these yet but the heads look awesome especially like the look of the titanium driver. I have hit both now and loved both. I have a callaway rogue st LS and have tried new Ping G430, Titleist , callaway, Srixon , and I like the Wilson better than all of the new drivers coming out. I do like the Rogue I have but I like the look of both Wilson drivers better and believe I will purchase one of the two.
Not that surprised since the specs are about maxed out and there does not seem to be any proprietary technology that has any one company with a lock unless they have very small R&D budgets. Love to see a few comparisons with more of the up and coming drivers from PXG, Mizuno, and other brands that are known for their irons and less for their driver / fairway performance. (Wilson seems to be a good fit with closing the gap on woods.
It would be useful if each time you review a driver you hit a few with whatever you currently have in your bad (tsr?) hitting on the same day would reduce the impact of day-to-day variations in your swing and would then help us see if the test driver is longer, more forgiving etc compared to your current benchmark.
It was a done deal for me when I could pay 250 for a brand new Wilson Dynapower Carbon. I wanted to support Wilson as my favorite irons are my very vintage 1977 Wilson Staff blades.
I think the blowing the mind idea is because of the price……having said that they have really nailed the looks. Haven’t tried one so can’t comment on performance. Project x shafts don’t really excite but that’s easily remedied. If they got some tour usage i think they’d fly off the shelves….
My TSR3 is made out of 100% titanium and it sounds amazing! It doesn't sound tinny or loud. Ping drivers sound terrible. So basically, does it sound more like a Titleist or a Ping?
The Carbon sounds more like the Titleist than Ping. Consistently hearing people say that it may be the best sounding driver of 2023. Right up there with Paradym, TSR & Stealth2. But the Titanium does sound tinnier - maybe similar to G430? But nowhere near as bad as G425!!
@@cameronloveless1751 Yeah the g425 is the worst sounding driver since the nike sumo in the early 2000's! There is no excuse for a 500-600 dollar driver to sound anywhere near that bad. I think the tsr3 is the best sounding driver I have ever hit but the paradym isn't far off. I haven't hit the stealth2 yet. I didn't like the sound or feel of the first stealth at all. It sounded and felt dead to me and I usually love Taylormade Drivers. I gamed the M3 for 4 years before switching to the tsr3 about 3 months ago.
Easy win for the worst sounding driver goes to Cleveland Launcher Turbo HB... you go deaf after a range session... it is like hitting with a church bell...
What was the dispersion for each driver? If Wilson adds a moveable adaptor as you suggested then I would image the price would increase. I suppose it is a trade off.
Would it be more common for a stiff shaft to be used in the carbon? I was all set in the titatuim but have now just come across a Carbon ventus/R locally and its a guese this time as only the carbon is available
Dan, I am 67 and have recovered from a lower lumbar issue, but I am not turning as fast as I used to. Looking for a driver to help me recoup some distance. I am thinking a higher launch and low spin. Appreciate your thoughts. Cheers from Texas. 🤠🏌️⛳
Hi Michael, are you planning on a fitting? Night launch 🚀 is good, but if the swing has slowed you may need a little more spin to keep the ball in the air. Get fitted and let me know the outcome, also a shaft may really help with results 👍
Feel like you need to hit more than 5 shots with each Dan. There was a clear mishit (high on the face?) with DPTi where spin dropped right down to 1600 and ball speed was less by about 4mph. That should be taken out of the numbers and replaced with a better strike, or hit more shots so it doesn’t skew the numbers. I think in truth the ball speed would be closer between the 2 models, and spin would be a bit higher with Ti which provides the extra forgiveness. Also, you didn’t mention whether you saw more draw bias from the Ti vs Carbon - can you comment on that? Thanks for reviewing DYNAPWR, great to see Wilson Staff finally making some great drivers!
I love Wilson Staff. I still have some FG Tours (1st gen cavity) in the bag. Personally though I prefer the titanium for looks. I compare the looks to Cobra, Mizuno, and Taylormade, Callaway with composite crowns. It just looks cheap. I'm sure it's not. I'm sure it feels and sounds perfect. I just hate the looks and finish. Fade the leading edge into the carbon. Transition it somehow. It just needs more.
4 things to say on price. 1: they already have a the D9 range in that price bracket, and it continues alongside DYNAPWR. 2: DP has been designed for tour level performance with I dare say a lot of R&D $ spent so reasonable price tag really. The Carbon is still $50 -$120 cheaper than equivalent models from the big 5 (Titleist, Ping, TM, Callaway & Cobra). The DPTi is $120- $170 cheaper, so that’s significantly less. 3: if they were priced a lot lower they probably wouldn’t be taken seriously 4: in the past you’d likely lose more when you sell a Wilson driver than what you saved when you bought it. But I have a feeling that DYNAPWR is going to get a cult following, it is that good, meaning this could be the first time in ages that prices for used Wilson drivers don’t fall thru the floor. Time will tell
I love Wilson. I play Staff Blades. I game the Carbon head. I owned the Paradym and Stealth. I prefer the Wilson. I do find similar results with the Stealth however. Why not save yourself a few bucks? Now, you are a trader, the Wilson have very little trade value. May change in the future but is what it is, now.
Tried the carbon version. Would i buy a new driver I would buy a wilson. They go as far as the rest. As straight. But are cheaper. No point in spending more money just for a brand name
If they would have started at a lower price. They would have been smarter. Shot themselves in the foot with to high a price. You have to earn that first 🤷🏼♂️👨🏻🦳⛳️🏌🏼♂️
4 things to say on price. 1: they already have the D9 range at a lower price bracket, and it continues alongside DYNAPWR. 2: DP has been designed for tour level performance with I dare say a lot of R&D $ spent so reasonable price tag really. The Carbon is still $50 -$120 cheaper than equivalent models from the big 5 (Titleist, Ping, TM, Callaway & Cobra). The DPTi is $120- $170 cheaper, so that’s significantly less. 3: if they were priced a lot lower they probably wouldn’t be taken seriously. If you want to be a big fish, you have to swim where the big fish swim. Just how it is 4: in the past you’d likely lose more when you sell a Wilson driver than what you saved when you bought it. But I have a feeling that DYNAPWR is going to get a cult following, it is that good, meaning this could be the first time in ages that prices for used Wilson drivers don’t fall thru the floor. Time will tell
I have the Wilson Carbon with Ventus Red 7s and the Paradym Triple Diamond with Ventus Black Both Velocore Shafts. The Distance between these are equal. The difference is the Wilson is much more Forgiving and I find the fairways a lot more. Hope this helps 👍🏼
Wowee! 😮
Big fan of Wilson equipment & glad to see they have a driver worthy of their irons. Had a look at it in local pro shop & it looks great.
I've been playing Wilson irons for years...all the way back to my first set which were Wilson Goosenecks. And I still play Wilson irons which I believe are the best irons for the money on the market today and have been for years. I've played Callaway, Taylor Made, Titleist, PXG and Ping but I always come back to a Wilson forged iron....always. So I will be giving this driver a test driver for sure. I play a TSI 2 now and will test it side by side. I play off a 8 handicap so love the Carbon sound but I'll try both models because it's all about what performs for me. Dan keep producing great content and I really like the product reviews....please do " on the course" review of your favorites this year. Thanks again and keep it up!!!!!!!
Wilson Staff Irons are just all around better for most everyone.
My friend works for Wilson, its a growing Driver amongst different tour players currently Dan
After having a fitting for Taylor made and Callaway 2024 new models, I ended up switching from being a lifetime taylor made driver player to the Wilson Dynapwr Carbon and the difference is amazing. Speed is up, gained about 10-20m off the tee, forgiveness is amazing and the sound is the best sounding driver I've heard. The fact the Wilson was cheaper was just a bonus as the numbers and performance spoke for themselves. (FYI I'm 5hcp with a swing speed of 110mph)
Nice review of both Wilson drivers. The price is definitely enticing, it'll make me take a look at them. Cheers.
Our pro is a Wilson stockist I’ve had some CB irons the last 18 months and I’ll be giving the carbon driver a test.
Sensational irons the CB 👏
Great to see you cover a wider range of drivers, not just the top 3! 262? Where have I heard that before??? Great review gents!
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Amazing Driver’s can’t wait to try them
Yes, I would test them. I use the D9 hybrids, excellent clubs.
I would happily try these Wilson said drivers. The brand has slipped down the pecking order over the years but I still produce excellent golf clubs. Without going for a fitting, I think the titanium model would suit me more than the carbon.
Good review dan. Both those drivers look pretty good. Numbers were OK too so depending on price it could be a much option to one of the big brands
I bought a new driver last year so I am not in the market for a driver at this point in time. If I was in the market I would definitely make trying out the Dynapower line form Wilson at the top of my list. From all the reviews I have read and watched there seems to be surprise reaction to how good these drivers perform, sound and feel. I think Wilsons recent focus in the non iron markets is coming to fruition. I feel it is a good thing there are more valid options for buyers than less and Wilsons absence as a valid driver choice may be coming to an end. Good job.
Ive just ordered the Carbon diver in the 8 degree head
I will try both Wilson Drivers this year.
Hi Dan I gave up golf snobbery a while ago in favour of the mizuno stz great club but too high launch very little run. my problem. Bought the carbon on the weekend & had a absolute ball with it. 15 yards on average 🎉 and workable. The AI is seriously impressive and for a 10 hdcp something that i didn't have previously is awesome. For me prices irrrelevent the club looks simple and does a great job well.
I have to admit I'm looking forward to seeing your review
Have not hit these yet but the heads look awesome especially like the look of the titanium driver.
I have hit both now and loved both. I have a callaway rogue st LS and have tried new Ping G430, Titleist , callaway, Srixon , and I like the Wilson better than all of the new drivers coming out. I do like the Rogue I have but I like the look of both Wilson drivers better and believe I will purchase one of the two.
Yes I would definitely give them a try.
Not that surprised since the specs are about maxed out and there does not seem to be any proprietary technology that has any one company with a lock unless they have very small R&D budgets. Love to see a few comparisons with more of the up and coming drivers from PXG, Mizuno, and other brands that are known for their irons and less for their driver / fairway performance. (Wilson seems to be a good fit with closing the gap on woods.
It would be useful if each time you review a driver you hit a few with whatever you currently have in your bad (tsr?) hitting on the same day would reduce the impact of day-to-day variations in your swing and would then help us see if the test driver is longer, more forgiving etc compared to your current benchmark.
Like that idea 👍
Wilson finally released a great driver again it's been awhile 👍
Great vlog Dan , would love to see what distance you could get with the Carbon with different shafts , just to see if there's a difference 🏌️♂️⛳️👍
I had some Wilson irons and absolutely hated them. Unknown secret though--their hybrids are still in my bag.
It was a done deal for me when I could pay 250 for a brand new Wilson Dynapower Carbon. I wanted to support Wilson as my favorite irons are my very vintage 1977 Wilson Staff blades.
Nice one mate
What's your swing speed? Please add a column to your future reviews that shows us your swing speed. It's very helpful to compare swing speed.
About 108-110 👍
@@DanHendriksenGolfwould you recommend the carbon for a swingspeed of under 100? Like 97 and with a R shaft
I play D9 forged irons and looking to get the Dynapower Ti driver. I’m more interested in dispersion than distance with the driver.
I think the blowing the mind idea is because of the price……having said that they have really nailed the looks.
Haven’t tried one so can’t comment on performance. Project x shafts don’t really excite but that’s easily remedied.
If they got some tour usage i think they’d fly off the shelves….
Agree, the impressive bit is that this to me is the first time for some time that Wilson has produced a driver that can compete with the big boys
Well can't wait for next years version then. :)
Love my Carbon driver!
My TSR3 is made out of 100% titanium and it sounds amazing! It doesn't sound tinny or loud. Ping drivers sound terrible. So basically, does it sound more like a Titleist or a Ping?
The Carbon sounds more like the Titleist than Ping. Consistently hearing people say that it may be the best sounding driver of 2023. Right up there with Paradym, TSR & Stealth2. But the Titanium does sound tinnier - maybe similar to G430? But nowhere near as bad as G425!!
@@cameronloveless1751
Yeah the g425 is the worst sounding driver since the nike sumo in the early 2000's! There is no excuse for a 500-600 dollar driver to sound anywhere near that bad. I think the tsr3 is the best sounding driver I have ever hit but the paradym isn't far off. I haven't hit the stealth2 yet. I didn't like the sound or feel of the first stealth at all. It sounded and felt dead to me and I usually love Taylormade Drivers. I gamed the M3 for 4 years before switching to the tsr3 about 3 months ago.
Easy win for the worst sounding driver goes to Cleveland Launcher Turbo HB... you go deaf after a range session... it is like hitting with a church bell...
What was the dispersion for each driver? If Wilson adds a moveable adaptor as you suggested then I would image the price would increase. I suppose it is a trade off.
The Wilson Carbon knocked the Ping LST 430 right out of my bag. Was not close
Would it be more common for a stiff shaft to be used in the carbon? I was all set in the titatuim but have now just come across a Carbon ventus/R locally and its a guese this time as only the carbon is available
Dan, I am 67 and have recovered from a lower lumbar issue, but I am not turning as fast as I used to. Looking for a driver to help me recoup some distance. I am thinking a higher launch and low spin. Appreciate your thoughts. Cheers from Texas. 🤠🏌️⛳
Hi Michael, are you planning on a fitting? Night launch 🚀 is good, but if the swing has slowed you may need a little more spin to keep the ball in the air. Get fitted and let me know the outcome, also a shaft may really help with results 👍
Feel like you need to hit more than 5 shots with each Dan. There was a clear mishit (high on the face?) with DPTi where spin dropped right down to 1600 and ball speed was less by about 4mph. That should be taken out of the numbers and replaced with a better strike, or hit more shots so it doesn’t skew the numbers. I think in truth the ball speed would be closer between the 2 models, and spin would be a bit higher with Ti which provides the extra forgiveness. Also, you didn’t mention whether you saw more draw bias from the Ti vs Carbon - can you comment on that?
Thanks for reviewing DYNAPWR, great to see Wilson Staff finally making some great drivers!
I think the difference on draw is very subtle because I could happily more it left to right 👍
@@DanHendriksenGolf thanks Dan. Keep the reviews coming.
Afternoon mate
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I love Wilson Staff. I still have some FG Tours (1st gen cavity) in the bag. Personally though I prefer the titanium for looks. I compare the looks to Cobra, Mizuno, and Taylormade, Callaway with composite crowns. It just looks cheap. I'm sure it's not. I'm sure it feels and sounds perfect. I just hate the looks and finish. Fade the leading edge into the carbon. Transition it somehow. It just needs more.
Thee drivers are about $500 US dollars. I did not expect that. I figured $300-325 max but I was wrong.
I agree Erick, a little surprised with Price, however if it competes with the big boys it deserves the price tag 🏷️ 👍
4 things to say on price. 1: they already have a the D9 range in that price bracket, and it continues alongside DYNAPWR. 2: DP has been designed for tour level performance with I dare say a lot of R&D $ spent so reasonable price tag really. The Carbon is still $50 -$120 cheaper than equivalent models from the big 5 (Titleist, Ping, TM, Callaway & Cobra). The DPTi is $120- $170 cheaper, so that’s significantly less. 3: if they were priced a lot lower they probably wouldn’t be taken seriously 4: in the past you’d likely lose more when you sell a Wilson driver than what you saved when you bought it. But I have a feeling that DYNAPWR is going to get a cult following, it is that good, meaning this could be the first time in ages that prices for used Wilson drivers don’t fall thru the floor. Time will tell
I love Wilson. I play Staff Blades. I game the Carbon head. I owned the Paradym and Stealth. I prefer the Wilson. I do find similar results with the Stealth however. Why not save yourself a few bucks? Now, you are a trader, the Wilson have very little trade value. May change in the future but is what it is, now.
Bought the titanium
Tried the carbon version.
Would i buy a new driver I would buy a wilson. They go as far as the rest. As straight. But are cheaper. No point in spending more money just for a brand name
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No enough spin in either for me
Take out the obvious mishit on the Titanium (spin dropped to 1600 and 4mph less ball speed) and you would see 200 more revs on the Ti I reckon
Callaway Paradigm
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150mph ball speed from 110mph swing speed? Something seems off to me.
Poor strike?
@@DanHendriksenGolf possibly. Just seemed odd to me as I swing it 10mph slower than you and get ball speeds in the 145-150 range
You should have Lee review these, he does a great job
He has done them on his channel and he loves them 👍
If they would have started at a lower price. They would have been smarter. Shot themselves in the foot with to high a price. You have to earn that first 🤷🏼♂️👨🏻🦳⛳️🏌🏼♂️
4 things to say on price. 1: they already have the D9 range at a lower price bracket, and it continues alongside DYNAPWR. 2: DP has been designed for tour level performance with I dare say a lot of R&D $ spent so reasonable price tag really. The Carbon is still $50 -$120 cheaper than equivalent models from the big 5 (Titleist, Ping, TM, Callaway & Cobra). The DPTi is $120- $170 cheaper, so that’s significantly less. 3: if they were priced a lot lower they probably wouldn’t be taken seriously. If you want to be a big fish, you have to swim where the big fish swim. Just how it is 4: in the past you’d likely lose more when you sell a Wilson driver than what you saved when you bought it. But I have a feeling that DYNAPWR is going to get a cult following, it is that good, meaning this could be the first time in ages that prices for used Wilson drivers don’t fall thru the floor. Time will tell
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