Best Stuff I've Seen (The Pacific)
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- When I stepped up to the table at the head of the line, a pretty brunette about my age (probably a student's wife) asked pleasantly what schools I had attended in the Marine Corps. I recited all the weapons and tactics schools we had in training.
She became more and more disconcerted as she looked in vain on her checklist for anything remotely resembling what I was saying. Finally, in desperation, she slammed her pencil on the table and said in a loud, exasperated voice, "Didn't the Marine Corps teach you anything?!" A gasp ran through the crowd, and you could have heard a pin drop. I didn't lose my temper, but I realized that, like most civilians, war to this lady meant John Wayne or the sweet musical South Pacific.
Slowly placing my hands on the table, aware that all eyes were upon us, I said in a loud, calm voice: "Lady, there was a killing war. The Marine Corps taught me how to kill Japs and try to survive. Now, if that don't fit into any academic course, I'm sorry. But some of us had to do the killing - and most of my buddies got killed or wounded".
She was speechless. There were many red faces among the obvious noncombatants present. I doubt if there were a half dozen infantrymen or tankers present.
- E.B. Sledge
China Marine pg 135
My buddy a Vietnam War Marine told me a similar story when the college asked him what he could do . " I can do a night drop in Charlie's back yard and radio in a air strike at 100 meters "
A TRUE Marine
And if he was australian he would have killed the enemy too
This is gold, was Australian recon and comms, after service it was private security, air traffic control or my university study(finance), I intercepted so many frequencies I was a perfect fit for atc, but didn’t want peoples lives in my hand incase I messed up.
Operating a mortar would have given Eugene great surveying and mechanical dimension skills. It involves estimating trajectories, distances, velocities, mass, acceleration etc.
Yeah in modern time, his skills could translate to Nav Sat topology. Very niche, and one of the subset of computer science. Map topology the advanced stuff pays a tons especially if it involve petroleum or precious metal.
no, not really. If you are on the gun line, you do not figure out trajectories, distances, velocities, and definitely not mass or acceleration. in the FDC section, you will handle distance and trajectory. unless, you're doing direct lay, you are not figuring out direction or distance.
@@nickjohn2051 Eh.....not really. He was a mortar man. Any skills would have been VERY limited to the one or two mortar tubes he would have worked with, and those would be basic skills at best. And the mortar training of today is not really all that different. I was an infantryman from 2009 to 2012, so I've seen it. Worked with mortar guys and call some of them my best friends.
Combat arms experience means shit in the civilian world unless you want to be a cop or security guard. And that goes for today as well as back in 1945. The training is very basic. Some very basic training on topographical features, some even more basic distance and trajectory training, and then they stick you with a crew and you learn from hands on experiences. Any 'book' training is limited to general exposure to terms and similar crap just so the military can check it off in your training list.
And infantry training is even worse. Had 6 months to prepare for deployment to Afghanistan. In those six months, we as an infantry company went to the range like maybe 3 times.
An infantry unit!
3 times in six months!
Military training is so glamorized in movies. In real life, units only train for the bare minimum so they can spend their budgets on tv's and laptops. Fucking company cq had 15-20 brand new HD tv's and top of the line equipment while us infantry grunts were humping around leftover gear from the Vietnam War.
As I understand it, some others have mentioned correctly that mortar operators may not be all that skilled in the technical aspects of determining firing solutions, depending on the mortar team. The guys dropping the mortars in the tubes and adjusting the angle settings are usually just given numbers, not expected to determine their values. That being said, it seems that Eugene Sledge managed to be successful academically after the war.
@@ccramit Wouldn't anyone past E-2 get to know about all that additional stuff though, through experience? Like with all the infantry stuff you learn only after you get to the unit, especially in these days with how little guys get to know in SOI.
Worked retail with a guy who was an Army Ranger that had served in Iraq and Afghanistan. Here was this former special forces guy who couldn't talk about half the stuff he did working a bottom of the barrel job with the slackers and drug addicts. he took his job so seriously, opted into the company's stock sharing program, and was one of the best coworkers I ever have had. It was quite sad because his body was so screwed up from spending a decade in the service he couldn't actually do much. Talking to him reminded me of this scene. They take all these young men and put them through hell, destroy their bodies and minds and then throw them back into society, calling them heroes as if it were a cruel joke.
@Bonka What branch were you in?
Well said Okami
I work in retail and work with people who have university degrees. Slackers and junkies ?
This marine went on to get a PhD in Biology and became a professor.
I believe he went into Ornithology after going out with his father to do some bird shooting. After shooting a Dove and watching it suffer, he swore to never harm anyone or anything ever again and instead got into Bird Watching. That's where his love for Ornithology came from and from there went on to pursue a PhD.
TheMinipily
He then became a professor and was one of the universities finest
explosives,chemistry
Nah He become a Rock star
athana kop I understood that reference
After the war Sledge (along with many other veterans) couldn't "comprehend people who griped because America wasn't perfect, or their coffee wasn't hot enough, or they had to stand and wait in line for the train or bus."
What a lot of my fellow citizens many very young and not yet exposed/schooled to the realities of life have not yet realized;
When you were born in this country, you hit the f~€k!#6 lottery!!!
I remember that line every time I start to get annoyed or complain about petty things. I keep telling myself, at least you're not in a muddy foxhole with jungle rot, being attacked by shelling, ferocious Japanese, mortars, and suffering in 100+ degree heat.
My war came later -- 1980. I have the same attitude.
I can understand that: there's no reason to gripe as such, just take it in stride and enjoy the world around you - gallons and gallons of blood was spilled for you to be able to do so.
He’d be disgusted with america now
That scene shows the VERY essence of the difference between one who has BEEN the shield and those whom he shielded.
Dr Sledge was a VERY intelligent individual.
From zombies.
Most will never know war and most don’t realize how lucky they are that there are men like me to stand watch when the wolf is at the door. The wolves are always searching and we need our military more than ever. I’m proud to have served and wouldn’t change anything.
You might want to study your history a bit.
@@scottcline8941 You know, we Asian always see those ungrateful POSs as morons who didn't know how lucky they're born as American. Please MAGA. The World needs it.
I don't think Ukrainian civllians feel the same
I know my grandparents have a rough idea what it was like to survive an aerial raid during the Blitz . It wasn't much fun digging up the neighbor's apparntley .
He went on to write one of the best books on the Pacific theater from a frontline soldiers perspective, an absolute must read
If you ever discharge from the military and try to be a civilian, remember:Your ability to kill humans does not assist with HR believing that you are the right person for their business.
This is why I lie about my mos on job applications. I’ve gotten a lot more job offers saying I was a truck driver or radioman than saying I was an infantryman. It’s sad but true. Being combat arms makes you about as desirable as a felon to a lot of employers.
I failed a management psych test because I wouldn't do the wrong thing if ordered. Killing people is exactly what they want. They just won't say it.
You really think any of us needed this little tid bit of wisdom ?
Like we don't already know you turds look at us like we're gonna snap or lose our sht over nothing constantly ? How you label us a liability because you are scared , or don't understand us because you have preconceived notions that some hollywood d bag put in your head from you watching some b rated sht show of a war movie ?
Ya we totally needed your advice guy , thanks so much.
civilians acting like nothing happened to these guys.
Age didnt she just do her works.
His mother didnt understand tho.
Whats strike me in this clip is that when everyone around him are in uniformes for no reason he probably is the only one whos been trouh real combats.
Kieran Oberhansli it’s not like that, civilians simply can’t comprehend what happened to these guys.
Thats not the point of the scene, the purpose is to both show the disconnect of war from reality as well as show how difficult it was for these soliders because they returned from war with no discernible skills for real life
@@pierreblaise9433 Learn how to speak English ffs.
nobody thought nothing happened... that's nonsense.
The cold look in his eyes when he delivers that line
You got the sense the show was trying to show the civilians complete ignorance of the war. You get the same feeling when Bob takes Vera out and so on...
you gotta remember the closest the average US citizen saw of the war was from news reels and newspapers they really were clueless about what happened overseas during the war.
@@Ugnutz most of which was propaganda that personified the US in such a glorious light that the real miserable shit these guys went thru didnt really register to the general public.
@@onebuffalo5402 this is actually a true story that was well documented by Sledge.
nobody can imagine a war for real....you have to be in it....and you can be glad if you never have to do so
@@dasfritzchen9059 speak for yourself
This scene always reminds me of an interview with a civil war veteran who fought at Gettysburg. He said two great armies meet for three days and a lot of men never went home and if you weren't there you'll never understand.
So very true!
This comment is "spot on"!
This scene is so powerful in so many ways. I like how he came without his military uniform. It's so heart breaking to think how little civilians knew or understood the horrors these young men experienced and sacrificed. I feel that was a humbling and disturbing realization for both Sledge and the young lady.
God bless your soul and thank you for all you sacrificed and shared with us Eugene Sledge 💜 You gave us and Military veterans so very much.
To all our military past and present, thank you for your service and sacrifices. I wish there were words more meaningful and accommodating than "Thank you"
Amercain civllians may not . That's true
This is pretty much close to the Army's exit help for veterans back when I ETS'd in 1992. They set up shop for us that were worthless for combat arms vets.
Yes! This young lady knew nothing of the horrors of war...of killing...of LOSS. Mission accomplished!
My great grandad was drafted into the army as a combat medic in WW2 and served in England, Luxembourg, Germany, Czechoslovakia and Belgium. He served four years in the infantry and received the following honours: EO with five battle stars, good conduct medal, AFR and presidential citation unit. He had written letters about how part of his job would be to go back and pick up the body parts and put them in wheelbarrows. In November 1944 his brother (who was the first conscientious objector from Oklahoma during ww2) who was also a combat medic had fought in Europe all the way to aechan and was sadly killed after jumping off of an m10 during mortar fire to try and save a wounded soldier in Hurtgen forest. When my great grandad returned home he was so troubled by everything that had happened that he couldn’t keep a steady job. He tried to become a doctor but found that he could only think of his dead friends or the people he couldn’t save. He would have night terrors and scream stuff. He ended up trying to end his own life a few years later but failed and lived the rest of his life disabled. His wife had to fight for any sort of help from the government but most thought he was “shell shocked” or just insane. They tried a bunch of stuff on him to try and help him including certain forms of shock therapy as well. He died at the age of 47 from extreme amounts of smoking.
The war never left him. My he RIP.
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a time when a Son of a Doctor thought it more important to serve his country than to lie to obtain a draft deferment, a time when men were men and had a love of Country. God bless you, Sir!
This was during a different time period in our society...people knew what respect was...God help us if it occurs now...
Nonesense. We had men and women volunteering while we were at war for 20 years. Look around, there are a couple million of us who loved their country enough to keep going on deployments and re-enlisting.
Watched an interview of a Vietnam veteran that said when he was in college after...this professor was running down the country and the war and such and he said the next day half of the men in the class showed up with their field jackets on and that shut him up pretty quick👌I guess some people don't have a clue what's going on so sometimes it's good to be blunt is my point.
That's why our government today overmedicates and overdiagnoses veterans. The one thing that has them scared are all the veterans they're creating from their endless and pointless wars in the middle east, now rightly disgruntled and disillusioned, and well versed in guerrilla warfare and U.S. counterinsurgency doctrine. The same shits that sent them to the sandpit ride around in armored limos, and those vets learned a thing or two about what an IED can do to an armored vehicle.
@@wamyx8Nz Right, what they are afraid of is another Battle of Athens Tennessee..look it up.
College professors do love to run their mouths. Pick up young impressionable girls that way.
Seems College Professors have always been that way, treating their opinions and personal political beliefs as fact.
My old bosses boss called them " Uni wan.....". Pretty good description.
You need to re-read the books then. Helmet for my Pillow and With the Old Breed are two of the best memoirs of war, period. The TV series could never capture all of that but they did a damn good job of putting it on film.
luketdrifter2100 I could not agree more!
Who do you think wrote "With the Old Breed"? Answer - Eugene Sledge
@@ericsmith2923 wow really? Thanks! I only read it 15 years ago.
I salute my Dad 2nd Lt. USMC and all my Uncle's who served during WW2. They're my heroes.
the best line on tv ever
What is
After surviving Pearl Harbor my father, like all Marines stationed in Hawaii were sent back to San Diego for retraining .. He was part of the 1st Marine Division who fought their first major battle against the Japanese army in Guadalcanal he was also in Peleliu with Eugene Sledge ... After watching the 'Pacific' HBO series, he stated that he had the same experience when he applied at the University of Minnesota after the war ...
In the Second World War, the average age of a serviceman was 26, Vietnam it was 19. Ten percent of the population served in some branch of service during WWII, not sure of the Asian conflict, but I'm sure it was less. Since 1976, the amount of servicemen at any one time that protect our nation, even in conflict, has barely reached the one percent mark. We didn't do it for glory, a meal discount, a thank you, or a three-day weekend once or twice a year. We did it, for whatever reason(economic, patriotic, family tradition, or whatever) because we felt like it was the thing to do. We don't care what you think of us, for the most part; if you haven't got something good to say, we'd rather you not say anything at all. And the truly great don't even want to hear that. We just don't want you to look down anyone, no matter who they are. That's all.
Fuckin A
Montie, my dad served for 28 years in the Army-- 41 to 69--in the infantry. Company commander in New Guinea and the Philippines. I served 26+ years in the Army--70-96--in the airborne infantry and SF. My point is that you are absolutely on-target in everything you say, Montie. "We just don't want you to look down anyone, no matter who they are. That's all. " Yep, that is indeed the bottom line.
@@4325air Thank you both for your SERVICE!... keep us safe!
My grandfather served in the Army and National Guard before the war. After Pearl Harbor he joined the USMC to get into the fight. Being an older man of 30 with military experience he was given the rank of Gunnery Sgt. He was a seagoing marine who served aboard a USN Destroyer leading a section of AA guns. He never talked about the war and told all of us, including his eldest son who retired an Air Force Colonel, he never saw combat. I requested his service record from the Navy Archives after he passed and he definitely saw combat. Most notably at Okinawa when thousands of kamikazes filled the skies. He would spend the rest of his life hanging out at the local American Legion, VFW, and his beloved Catholic church. Mass multiple times a week kind of guy. He didn't seek praise, recognition, or rewards for his service. He didn't even want people to know what he went through. I think his lifelong alcoholism had everything to do with the naval Battle of Okinawa. He locked up the horrors of war he experienced and took them to the grave. Maybe not the best way to deal with it but who am I to judge, I wasn't there.
Montie: I never served, turning 18 several weeks after Saigon fell in 1975, but I hope you know not everyone is as clueless about the sacrifices you and your brethren made for America. I can’t begin to comprehend what you witnessed or had to participate in as a soldier. But, know this.... here is one civilian who has nothing but gratitude and admiration for all men (and women) like you who performed their duty in the face of hell. We may not agree on the rationale for war or the blind belief in leaders who use our young to achieve their personal or political aim. Welcome home, Sir.
The 'disconnect' between civilains vs. veterans, and not the civilian's fault. True after WWII, after Vietnam and more true today. The civilain/military gap is uncomfortable for civilians, and I'm tired of trying to explain. So I just gave up, and live with it. It just is.
Civilian(s) do not care, so long as they can have it easy and not to rough. Let someone else fight for'em.
they just dont get it. i did 6 years and you have a different way about you once you have served
@@helgaeinblauen1240 I get it i never served but I get it
In this case, people forget that even though the US was at war in WWII and played a major role, American civilians on the mainland did not experience any of it so in a sense as far as they are concerned, war just didn't exist thus the gap.
They could always be a bit more understanding towards the veterans though!!
I got injured in the oilfield and I theycrefused to give me my old job back. This brought back memories, and heartbreak.
I was told by a university my electronics tech schools could be used for several degrees. But it was vacuum tubes/valves and outdated. I eventually settled on computer science.
I served in Artillery for my entire Marine career, and when they sent me to leadership schools such as Sgt's course and the Staff NCO academy, we learned infantry tactics/ patrolling skills and land navigation.
But the thing we forget is. That we can overcome, improvise and adapt. We just gotta stick together as veterans. And help each other to remember that.
Semper Fi devil
ANGLICO 3/12...AirNaval GangBang. Semper Fi!
Thumbs up for the description and the quote from E.B. Sledge! That was actually better than what they put in the show.
I deal with bs such as this all the time in hospitals that are supposed to serve patients. Recently, my legs were about to give out on me, and I couldn't walk any farther, and I asked a fat, dumpy, pimply little 18-year-old behind a desk whether he might call for a wheelchair, and he LAUGHED, and said that "they don't send wheelchairs up here,"" and handed me directions how to get where I needed to go.
The Marine ‘Grunt’s’ life is miserable! The only person who could understand this is another Grunt!
Almost but not quite true. I was 0311 in Viet Nam and I guarantee Doc, our Navy Corpsman, understood it just as well as any grungy mud Marine in country. He chewed the same dirt we did.
I worked in a garbage dump for 4 years, sure my life wasnt on the line but it was grunt work, embrace the suck, put your head down, and push forward.
As 'grunt' I can tell you that this scene resonates more just because I have tried to get my degree while in the Army and each time, as soon as they found out my MOS (11B34P) they either told me to just walk away or tried to get me a morons degree.
Tom Justis everybody loves their “doc” 👌🏻👌🏻
Army grunt but we both understand what embracing the suck is.
I had a boss that was in a mortar squad in Vietnam. He said "I could rain down death on a position and be gone before they knew what hit them but there was very little call for that skill in the private sector."
To all combat veterans out there, you have my sincerest respect and admiration.
The look on her face
I had an experience back in ‘93 that gave me similar vibes. Got off active duty after 8.5 years in the USMC and was accepted into Boston University. When I went to submit my DD295 (not to be confused with DD214) to have my military training and education evaluated to see if anything was transferable for credit, the leftist admissions guy (and yeah that’s what he was) wouldn’t even look it. Basically told me the school didn’t care. EXACT WORDS.
Walked away and attended another school instead. Not that I got a lot credits for my military experience, but at least this other school was far more respectful and took the time to review my record.
To this day, FU BU.
Going to school after war is interesting. I was in a class about four years after I got home from Afghanistan and the professor was asking how we could win. He finally asked me and all the class looked over. I said will. There is no way that the Taliban can beat us in a open fight. As long as we stay we win. Eventually when we leave we lose. The whole class was silent. Will wins wars. They did not understand. When men and women kill and die and others do not have skin in the game. Well they do not understand.
I went to the Labor board after my discharge and signed up for unemployment and looked for a job, the Labor board man said, "OK what was your MOS?" I said Rifleman, He said "what was the job you did?" I said "Locate, close with and destroy the enemy by fire and Maneuver, and to defend that area I was ordered to defend." He said, "Oh you are a Killer, were you any good at it?" I said "No one ever complained about the job I did."
Then he said, "Well unless you want to join the Mafia all I got is Walmart Greeter or Security Guard."
Then he laughed out loud and had a good time.
I said no thanks, I can find my own job.
And I did.
Well let's be honest. There are many MOS choices that offer better options in civilian life.
@@WALTERBROADDUS Yes there are my son was a Depot level Helicopter technician, Marine Light Attack Helicopter squadron, He was able to turn that MOS into a six figure salary after Afghanistan and Iraq.
One Nephew was a Crew Chief on Phrogs CH-46 he was able after two tours in Iraq to turn his MOS in a Jet Engine repairman Makes almost the same salary.
The Other Nephew was an 0311 Grunt Rifleman, Two tours Iraq his jobs are low pay and blue collar labor, he suffers from almost PTSD and has trouble maintaining relationships.
There are many that can be reversed into a Good Job, but 0311 Trigger puller is not one of them.
Basically every infantryman going into college
The reason why so many veterans stay disconnected from society and suffer the memories and injuries of their wars in solitude to the point where it breaks them, is that our society has has disassociated itself with the wars it fights. Prior to WW1 there were almost no cases of PTSD because soldiers would return back to a society that was open about war and would have greatly appreciated a soldiers valor. Now we scoff at it and shun those that served once their returned because war is "bad". War is neither bad nor good. It's human nature to fight for survival and now that we can survive without fighting we fight for other reasons. But conflict is in the blood. It's not understand the fundamental struggle of human existence and the mind of a soldier that is bad.
Prior to WW1 it was called "Soldier's Heart" same symptoms.
No, they didn't talk about it either.
@@zebradun7407 But they were much more receptive about it. In no day and age did civilians of a non-tribal society openly speak about the horrors of war. But in the past at least the valor and courage of those fighting in it was acknowledged.
There wasn't the killing like WWI before WWI. But many Civil war veterans suffered greatly from PTSD. And many of the wounded veterans of the Civil became addicted to opium which was the miracle drug of its time for dealing with pain. Veterans of all wars have suffered from what they saw and the guilt that they felt.
How I felt applying for college
She probably should have asked him about high school and what were his strong subjects, which would be much more applicable to academia.
It was a different time alot of these people probably held a job before going to college. Hell when I applied to a college they asked about my job background and military service.
When war is won treated like dogs; soldiers, sailors and marines keep off the grass. We owe our vets everything to try and fill that hole.
Yea when he wasn't in the military he was like a little boy but then he went in and became a man a tough one too
My wife's great uncle in WW2 was an infantryman in the New Guinea jungle. He got told that he didn't have the education to be an electrician. He said, they didn't ask me this when they handed me a flamethrower. True
His book, one of the greatest war memoirs ever written, is "With the Old Breed: On Pelilu and Okinawa", the Old Breed being the 1st Marine Division. First published by Presidio Press, its importance was such that Oxford Press brought a later edition. Get it. Read it and Paul Fussell's introduction.
well. at the time, nobody knew what war was actually like, so she would not have known what hero's like Mr.Sledge went through.
When he breaks down later man i felt for him
The girl looks exactly like Michelle Williams, but it isn't her.
it looks like her
its williams
She is Adelaide Clemens
@@tanequilsmith9958 Yep, she is per WIki and an Aussie girl at that
Nahh, she looks like Carey Mulligan
Before Walt Disney became Walt Disney, he was fired from his job, the man who fired him believed that Walt Disney had a lack of creativity.
Had similar feelings. Army infantry in Iraq. Got out. Do school and try to establish in a career. Not easy when you did not learn any practical skills
You learned some of the best skills most employers need and want, planning, execution and TEAM WORK. That is why most employers love vets. We get the job done.
After the war ended many men including Sledge signed up for the GI Bill which allowed returning soldiers and marines a shot at higher education.
The young lady at the desk looks like an angel. She is so cute.
What's her name?
My Great Grandpa served in the US Marines in WW2 he joined when he was only 17 but he lied to get in. He was wounded on Iwo Jima by a grenade and was awarded the Purple Heart. This is the generation of what a man acts like. Nowadays you have sissy’s for a man.
This comment is "spot on"!
By the way, do you have a America flag flying at your home, like I do at mine...
This country is hurting...
Yes I sure do.
Sledgehammer himself couldn't have said it any better.........!!
Well, in some ways you're right; Sledge's family gave the actor Haney's lighter.
That’s because Sledge did say exactly that.
@@lemmdus2119 He said "there was a killing war and I had to do some of the killing"
I hadn’t been in combat over 10 years and certain things will trigger your mindset. I’m not a monster or a killer. I don’t understand lots of things like before war and combat. It’s easy to go through life without any problems but it’s tuff to go through life knowing what a man can do to another man. Nobody likes violence who has experienced violence. I’m 43 and would never recommend hostile intentions toward anyone. It solves nothing. Killing someone does not make you a better person it only proves you can end one’s life. Peace is the only way.
Whew! Another incredible scene. Another one that slaps you in the face to the point of complete sobriety.
basically every 11 bravos have to go through... EVERy.. 11 bravos.. literally.. the life of an ifnantryman
The girl behind him in the line is super gorgeous 😍
That actress deserved more recognition
Did they teach you anything in the Marine Corps?
Yes ma'am, I learned to stack bodies...
This was before social media and all of that. Civilians didn't know how bad war was because they didn't have graphic correspondence on it
You can see in his eyes he has seen things.
One of my favorite scenes in the movie. Semper Fi!
They taught him how to save the freedom of his country and he got pretty damn good at it.
My next door neighbor fought in WW2 as part of the Australian Army. He never talked about it. I asked my dad why that was so. My dad said the ones who liked to talk about the war probably never saw any real action. For them it was a way to now feel like a war hero. My dad believed the one's who saw the death and destruction of combat never wanted to relive it and therefore never talked about it..
Your father was exactly right. My great uncle fought in the pacific, and most of his mates were ex military as well. He paid his rsa fees, but never attended the pubs, but always attended Anzac ceremonies. They never talked about it and all of them were front line. It was only when he got dementure that some of stories came out. Enough came out to turn anyone into a pacifist and none of those stories you would ever want to share with anyone who didn't experience it. There is no way any of us could understand even once we did hear the story.
The things the marines taught him.
Mortar men which is engineering and map reading, infantry which is teamwork precision, effectiveness under stress cause life as a civilian is nothing compared to pelelu and Okinawa, pure focus and diligence because it's ingrained in us, common sense because people who never served sometimes never developed any common sense
Plenty of people who never served have common sense. That is just common sense.
She seemed to do okay with the Marine before Sledge. Maybe he was assigned to HQ.
Who gives this a thumbs down ...really??! I wish the show took a more literal scene from the book and allowed the crowd around him to hear his response. Great though still ... Semper Fi!
Sledge could say any dam thing he wants...
three people don't know what a marine can do
My dad said something like this to the ticket sales clerk at KnottsBerry farm cause she wouldn't give us a military discount...she cried! XD
that was a great scene, delivered with conviction and finesse. Impressive
Didnt ask to be a 91B when i joined the army but after i got out i started contracting overseas working on humvees and even some bradleys from time to time but i am grateful that my skills translated well in the civilian world and but i feel bad for combat arms no options after they get out
I wish they would bring this dude back for the Jurassic World movies. Like maybe his character “Timmy” grew up to be a badass paleontologist 😂
same it’d be so awesome to see where tim is now
Wow ruined it..
This scene really makes no sense. He was applying for college not a job. When I started college, they only asked me what courses I wanted to take for my chosen major.
Different times.
How can anyone not respect these men?
Was someone not respecting them?
@@dLimboStick bruh 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ the comment at 1:10 that's a disrespectful remark of her.
Then again miss wonderland was chalk full of ignorance and did not have a freaking clue of the war that went on.
These days, we call them antifa or BLM.....
If someone does not respect vets they do not deserve to be free and they are most likely a dirty commie leftist in other words the modern Democrat party
I got credit for Physical Hygiene and First Aide. Didn't have to take those General Education Classes - and all the non-vets did.
I was trained in Artillery Weapons Repair at Ordnance School but when I got to my Permanent Duty Station - they made me a Sentry doing Base Security and that's what I did for 15 Months in California. My contribution to the Vietnam War.
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The intro above tells how this scene really went down in real life.
He entered the military a boy and come out a man.
one should understand the great likelihood these soldiers developed will, determination, resilience and integrity after all they went through, characteristics that many are not born with and require hard work to cultivate, or in this case, were forged under the most adverse yet formative conditions imaginable.
you learn alot in the military that is useful in real life -- leading and helping people, managing logistics etc. I never served in combat but i have plenty of friends who have. I can only say that if you haven't been in combat it is something you'll never understand or appreciate fully. I know I don't and i was army infantry. so to the teacher who wanted the truth "not fiction" I'd suggest that individual join the marines or enlist in the Army Infantry and request combat duty. He'll have my respect then and maybe learn something. thanks to everyone who have served to protect me and my country.
Eugene was in a mortar squad. They should have given him credit for teamwork and goal oriented planning.
this chocked me up because it was kind of how my dad was treated when he got back from korea
He was over qualified for the school.
I had a similar conversation at Towson University.
I don't blame his reaction at all.
College and Universities were out of reach for most people before the war. But the GI Bill changed a lot of that.
“Didn’t they teach you anything?”
“Yes ma’am how to kill and how to survive as a homeless man.”
Sometimes there's questions you really shouldn't ask.
Hard to believe that he was Timmy in Jurassic Park.
Survivors of Iwo were greeted by cheering crowds which faded when they saw the soldiers with ghastly wounds.
Dude idc the last line was perfect
I wouldn’t be able to contain my scoffs after some of those questions
No one lives in war they all die. Many make it home yes but the person they were never came home. Remember this next time war comes calling this is what it is we're asking of of warriors.
In sledges case, you skip all that stuff and just go to what you want to do for classes.
Alot of military training doesn't apply to the civilian world, even in my case which is machinist mate in the navy(boilers, steam turbines, etc).
Now you may ask as to why my case still doesn't apply. Well, thats because even thou we dealt with much more powerful equipment on a ship than what the civilians used, they still want us to go take a test, get licensed, get shackled to a union, wait for someone to die or retire before we can take their position, etc etc... Rendering the training mute... However, I am still ready to hop onboard the Iowa down in commiefornia and light her off and get her underway if the need arises(and she still can get underway in under 6 months if needed)....
War is an instant rebirth. It can happen at any moment
This makes me want to cry.
This is the one area I like about The Pacific over BOB. How they handled themselves when the war was over
I LOVE that Line!
That girl was probably soaked after talking to the sledgehammer…
PTSD: having more in common with the guy/gal whom you just spent x number of months/ years trying to kill each other than the ones you(yourself and the "enemy") were protecting.
A lot of good men came home from the various theaters just as dead as the Brothers they left buried in France, North Africa, Tarawa, Guadalcanal, Peleliu... Many came back to become distinguished members of society. Others melted into the seams,doing their job and raising a family, just waiting for the "war" to be over.
That was his mic drop moment. It needed to be said and he was the one to say it