Is That 3kW RMS or MAX? HiFonics Brutus BRX3016.1D 3000 watt Amp Dyno Test

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  • Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024

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  • @wal
    @wal  7 лет назад +68

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    • @Prodbyscrewhead
      @Prodbyscrewhead 7 лет назад +1

      BigDWiz can you please do a amp dyno on the power acoustik 2300 mono block I want to see if it’s any good

    • @michaelvickers89
      @michaelvickers89 7 лет назад +3

      BigDWiz
      I have been wanting to see what the BRZ or any newer hifonics amp could do power wise.
      I have owned a few and while they are less expensive than other brands, I don't think they underrated. They make the claimed power or close to it but they are very power hungry.
      So I have learned that hifonics will do close to rated power but it's not a SQ amp or any efficient one. I think that with all the power upgrades it will cost to get the claimed power out of less expensive amps batteries, awg cable, after market alt, etc that you could buy a more expensive amp that's more efficient with better SQ and SPL.
      Great video big D, I'm sure this video will get viewed by a lot of people. 👍😎

    • @cubanman2009
      @cubanman2009 7 лет назад

      BigDWiz damn a little shocker I didn’t think it be that much power wow lol

    • @bennyblanco14
      @bennyblanco14 7 лет назад +1

      BigDWiz so what test should I pay attention too for guys like me who listen to rap music ?

    • @treynathaniel4075
      @treynathaniel4075 7 лет назад +2

      10 cents a watt aint bad.

  • @johnostrum6953
    @johnostrum6953 4 года назад +20

    Absolutely love my Brutus. Thing has been driving sub after sub like an animal for several years. Good to know these newer amps are just as good as my older one. Makes me want to upgrade although I’ll never need to 😂 I’ve never even been able to put this amp into protection mode. It barely even gets warm after pushing it to the absolute max 😂

  • @soundsofnature7015
    @soundsofnature7015 4 года назад +15

    It's great this amp can produce those big numbers. The main issue I have with amps not being completely honest about actual power is when trying to find or use the proper subwoofers.

    • @valorantorion1588
      @valorantorion1588 2 года назад

      Why do u want to upgrade to a bigger hifonics if it doesn't do rated and is overpriced for performance but ct sound and skar audio are both pretty good and do rms or more and are the same price better quality and sometimes cheaper the ct sounds 2000.1d does 2000rms or more and rn is 60 less and I can almost guarantee it will do 2200 rms

    • @dreaded470
      @dreaded470 2 года назад

      With a hifonics Gemini as a newer amp or a Brutus u get the power

  • @autoaudiomonster
    @autoaudiomonster 7 лет назад +9

    I'm glad you make information like this known, I have learned a lot more about amps, too bad the companies don't take the time to give correct information.

  • @Brock_Landers
    @Brock_Landers 6 лет назад +29

    Still though...5800 watts? Wow. Way to go Hifonics. I am impressed!

    • @rubenavila8700
      @rubenavila8700 4 года назад +4

      Watt's not RMS watt's don't mean shit

    • @Atelierul29
      @Atelierul29 4 года назад +2

      @@rubenavila8700 RMS is not an official measuring unit! If you don't know this basic stuff you should get as far as you can of amplifiers!. RMS is sinus power or nominal power which is still measured in WATTS(W).Max power is musical power or peak power.This one too is measured in watts! GTFO

    • @jeroenschuuring6060
      @jeroenschuuring6060 4 года назад +3

      @@Atelierul29 RMS is not sinewave. Sinewave is 1.4 times the voltage swing at RMS. Have a nice day. Next time you correct someone at least check your facts!

    • @Atelierul29
      @Atelierul29 4 года назад +5

      @@jeroenschuuring6060 The RMS value of a set of values (or a continuous-time waveform) is the square root of the arithmetic mean of the squares of the values, or the square of the function that defines the continuous waveform. In physics, the RMS current value can also be defined as the "value of the direct current that dissipates the same power in a resistor." Next time you check your facts!

    • @murrayshekelberg9754
      @murrayshekelberg9754 3 года назад +3

      @@Atelierul29 This is some awesome 'correction battling'.

  • @benvasilinda9729
    @benvasilinda9729 5 лет назад +4

    I used HiFonics amps in the late 80’s and early 90’s and was always really happy with him. The were much more expensive back then as well.

    • @b-luv339
      @b-luv339 8 месяцев назад

      You are right my friend. Early 90s, HiFonics was $$$$.$$, but, they banged. I had 2 Zeus 1000 on 2 18s in a 67 SS Impala. Man.

    • @John-r1x4t
      @John-r1x4t 20 дней назад

      They HAD a diffrent owner n ppl wrkn at hifonics bk in 90s it was a great n better company bk then... sold there name n it went to cheap poop 💩... All for $$$

  • @Independent_minds_
    @Independent_minds_ 6 лет назад +1

    The go too for amp dynos on RUclips. Never fails anytime I want to see what a amp can do this guy has done a dyno! 🙏

    • @wal
      @wal  6 лет назад +1

      Not everyone will agree with you, but I try

  • @sheperdjohnson1185
    @sheperdjohnson1185 6 лет назад +8

    I owned a hifonics amp imo they're pretty good! I had them on my sundown sa's sounded great! That amp banged them pretty hard!

    • @jweezy216
      @jweezy216 5 лет назад

      How was the lows & SQ of that set up ?

    • @dsharp6320
      @dsharp6320 5 лет назад

      @@jweezy216 the work great together I had a hifonics brz2016.1 2k rms at 1 ohm on a sundown x12 hit good but sold the x12 now I have 2 sa10's same amp just got subs yesterday haven't messed with settings yet but definitely hit lows more consistent than my 1 x12 less power tho since running at 2 ohm vs 1 might send it at .05 ohm turn amp down and pray it lasts otherwise I'll upgrade to this amp run at 2 ohm same power check my page I have video of the x12 before I sold it

  • @danivela2260
    @danivela2260 3 года назад +1

    I just want to say thank you for doing an amp dyno on this amp. I have this exact same amp in my little 2000 Nissan Altima pushing a Skar Audio EVL-10 dual 4 ohm sub in a Skar Audio enclosure made for a 12 inch sub. But I needed the air space so I put a new face on it to mount my 10" sub. I think it works great. I only use a 100 amp fuse and run a 5.0 Farad Stinger cap in the back with the amp and sub. It does what I need it to do. With the bass knob, I can turn down the bass when I want to (English) music and turn it up when I listen to Spanish music. Thanks for the knowledge you provide to us beginners.

  • @mmiaudio
    @mmiaudio 7 лет назад +11

    Big D you just made my day I have two of these strapped in my Jeep and I did my own clamp test and what not and nobody wanted to believe me on the power that these things put out so thank you for purchasing one and doing the tests so I can also prove a few people wrong.

  • @tynstaci
    @tynstaci 6 лет назад +1

    I know this has nothing to do with power ratings but I run hifonics amps on both of my sxs. They are extremely durable for offroading as they've been rained on, under water, washed with the water hose, pressure washed and once they dry, they still work. They're cheap priced and do great for my system. I can't see spending the big bucks for a high dollar amp that may get ruined. I'm definitely a hifonics fan.

  • @seferino78702
    @seferino78702 6 лет назад +30

    Can you do a dyno test on hifonics brutus bxx series 4k at 1 ohm

    • @craigbarnett3564
      @craigbarnett3564 5 лет назад

      Jose Velazquez if it is a class d amp no it will not work long bud

    • @tykendrick800
      @tykendrick800 5 лет назад

      @Sean Patrick I just sold my xtr 2500 and regret it as the next amp I bought is trash. I'm looking into the bxx4000 also bit can't find shit

    • @drrckhamilton
      @drrckhamilton 5 лет назад +1

      @@craigbarnett3564
      Are you an amp builder?

  • @PhenomxIV
    @PhenomxIV 7 лет назад +2

    Thank goodness... finally a dunk of this amp. I had one, sold it the other day. Worked nicely, perfectly if I can sat that much. Had it pushing a DD3515 d2. I was charmed as well as other bass head listeners.

  • @CeciShaw
    @CeciShaw 5 лет назад +6

    Found your channel by mistake, now watching every video. Thanks!

    • @wal
      @wal  5 лет назад +1

      Happy Mistake 😊

  • @williamcowart7599
    @williamcowart7599 5 лет назад +2

    Been shaking the ground with 2 hifonics 2400w amps pushing 2 12s for almost 3 years. Great amps.

  • @TuneStunnaMusic
    @TuneStunnaMusic 7 лет назад +53

    Well done tests, especially with the music. Please do more! I dont even care if they are old or new anymore.

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад +1

      +TuneStunnaMusic amp tests and more stuff planned for future vids

  • @markharris4260
    @markharris4260 2 года назад +2

    Super class amplifier HiFoNiCs claims that they test each of the output fets and MATCH them to the closest possible, capacitance reading per fet transistor so they will conduct together more evenly , like it means they have the same conductive electrical characteristics to be able to produce output power smoothly, just like back in the day tube type amplifiers had vacuum tubes that were matched together so their electrical characteristics were very close

    • @wal
      @wal  2 года назад

      Meaning they most likely buy in lots and use the same ones in their amps and don’t mix lots

  • @izrael2321
    @izrael2321 6 лет назад +8

    It can be fixed and then run it at 0.25 ohms .. Yea buddy!! You rule big D

  • @303nitzubishi4
    @303nitzubishi4 7 лет назад

    Derek your two cents is worth alot to some of these kids watching that don't have a ton of experience or perspective on how a musical signal coming from an amp is transformed into audible sound- your explanation on the difference between the RMS and dynamic power made sense to me and I am sure you shed some light on the subject for those less educated. Great vid as always keep it up brother. And 5.8k @ 1/2 ohm WOW! Sucks you blew it up but I am sure it's repairable

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад

      +Adam Abreu thanks 🤘

  • @adamtx214
    @adamtx214 6 лет назад +68

    People think hifonics amps arent great just because of the price but they are actually just as good as any other amp

    • @kmccorkle69
      @kmccorkle69 5 лет назад +10

      They're actually trash.. They are better than soundqubed amps, because they use some of the same boards. but hifonics uses a little better components. However Hifonics uses low temp rated capacitors which means they do not have good longevity life. They work fine for a short time but will fail do to that.

    • @mem10fan2
      @mem10fan2 5 лет назад +12

      Hifonics amps are very good for the price regardless of how people bash them.

    • @mem10fan2
      @mem10fan2 5 лет назад +2

      @@kmccorkle69 Soundqubed actually uses cheaper caps.

    • @kmccorkle69
      @kmccorkle69 5 лет назад +2

      Watch the whole clip

    • @marco77ar
      @marco77ar 5 лет назад +2

      Even 5 years ago....they were a good bargain....past few years , not so much....I put a 1000 watt mono, in my girls car, cause she doesn’t have a lot of space. With a single 12” cvr, in a sealed box....it’s alright, for the 119 bucks it cost

  • @jaybird75
    @jaybird75 7 лет назад +1

    Love your amp dynos Big D. I have been a diehard Hifonics fan since the 90's. I have had several of them and never have been disappointed. Keep up the great work.

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад +1

      +Jason Rose thanks for watching and commenting 🤙

  • @mrk7201
    @mrk7201 5 лет назад +32

    Hifonics was in all the booming rides in the early 90s. They shook the ground. Hifonics was the Mack Daddy

    • @wal
      @wal  5 лет назад +7

      Yessir, you are correct! Zeus and Colossus FTW!

    • @WhitfieldProductionsTV
      @WhitfieldProductionsTV 5 лет назад +2

      @@wal Orion amps, the original 1000 watt units from the mid 90's. what god tier amps those were.

    • @stevebellen8674
      @stevebellen8674 5 лет назад

      Moe Whitfield I still have my 2 xtr 2250's known the beast from the 90s

    • @stevebellen8674
      @stevebellen8674 5 лет назад +3

      Mr K that's when they were Zed made back then every brand that was Zed made banged today hifonics is budget stuff ok for daily system not for comp

    • @mirkolazar9250
      @mirkolazar9250 5 лет назад +1

      So was autotek in the 90s and mb quart in the 2000s but now maxxsonics owns them all along with ppi crunch sound stream and some others idk I guess if you don’t push too hard they are a ok product but I have never seen a maxxsonics amp that didn’t go up in smoke after a while my buddy had all sound stream rubicon amps it worked for a while but ended up blowing everything door speakers amps and all he ended up getting some xta sound stream amps before they went to max Sonics never had a problem very quality amp 🤷‍♂️

  • @hellbillywv5724
    @hellbillywv5724 5 лет назад

    I have 2 of the previous generation Hifonics BRX2400.1D'S that I've ran strapped at 1ohm on 2 SoundQubed HDC3.112's for a couple of years and they never even get hot and beat the shit out of those subs. You can't beat Hifonics amps for the price. I've had those amps for about 6 years so far and they're still going strong. Thanks for another great video BigD

  • @neila6501
    @neila6501 7 лет назад +8

    I sell the Brutus line in my store, I have found these to be solid reliable amps. Great clip.

    • @rubenavila8700
      @rubenavila8700 4 года назад +1

      RMS is true power watt's don't mean shit ..

  • @Zionslayer1
    @Zionslayer1 7 лет назад

    It's not a waste. This is why we watch and subscribe. And thank you for superimposing the efficiency on the screen.

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад

      +Zionslayer1 true, good point. I was just bummed this was literally the last test before I was going to unhook it...then POOF!!

    • @201231
      @201231 4 года назад

      @@wal The efficiency really fell off @ half ohm but 80% @ 0.67 is not bad

  • @joshhanson6777
    @joshhanson6777 7 лет назад +28

    Save your $ if you want this amp and buy the hifonics hifi 2600 for around $159 on ebay . It has the same damn board and its $100 cheaper and BigDWiz if you look on yours you will probably find where it says 2600! Because both of mine do! So for $159 you can have this amp in a different heat sink!

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад +7

      +Josh Hanson interesting sir!

    • @justinmurphy2227
      @justinmurphy2227 7 лет назад

      Josh Hanson
      Are you serious? Is it like that with the whole lineup or just this model number versus the other less expensive one?
      If so man I'm in on getting one of these! How do they sound sound quality wise for say on their 4-channel amps?
      Josh I'm just needing a thousand Watts RMS so which model would you suggest for me to save the most money? I've been a Hifonics fan since the late 90s and it looks like the quality has went up and the prices down. I might be looking at my whole new amp line up for my truck.

    • @joshhanson6777
      @joshhanson6777 7 лет назад +13

      Justin Murphy the hifonics x2600 is the exact same amp as this and its $159 on ebay brand new! All day long. Hifonics does this with many of there amps. The do it so often i cant mention all of them. I like the hifonics brutus brz 2400's they have the exact same board as the soundqubed 2200. That board is all so in the brx2400 bre2500 be2500 all brutus amps. I don't recommend any zeus amp's just brutus or colossus. But for the $ if you want these results get the hifonics x2600. Do some research and Google both boards and see for yourself, this amp is a waste when you can get the x2600. Always check out the guts before you buy. People hate on hifonics alot and praise something else that runs the same damn board! It crazy!

    • @joeambly6807
      @joeambly6807 7 лет назад

      Jesus christ do your won research and spend some dough

    • @gagecollins9597
      @gagecollins9597 7 лет назад +1

      Josh Hanson good thing I bought the 2600. I have that powering my two skar EVL 12s. "Dat shit bumpin" haha. Good to know it's the same amp. Thanks bro! No need to upgrade now. I run mine at 1 ohm. Shit does bump lol

  • @mrlithium69
    @mrlithium69 7 лет назад

    I like the new video style. And i have a HIfonics Brutus 2000w and its been goin strong for 7 years. I would totally buy this one as an upgrade.

  • @SDS-1
    @SDS-1 7 лет назад +50

    Just have the fets replaced D.
    Thanks for doing the dirty work so we know bro.

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад +11

      +james craghead it did more damage than that...I looked closer and one of the components between the transformers was detached from the board. I'm hoping HiFo will cut me a break and fix it

    • @treynathaniel4075
      @treynathaniel4075 7 лет назад +6

      Solder job. Fets,control boards,diodes,caps, easy peasey. If they don't fix it I can. Or recommend others that can. For a fraction of the cost of the amp obviously :)

    • @josibarra
      @josibarra 7 лет назад

      Trey Nathaniel i have the old brz2400 that needs repair. Who do you recommended?

    • @paulhicks9399
      @paulhicks9399 7 лет назад

      Get it replaced under warranty

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад +8

      I broke da seals to show you guys the guts. I'm going to see if HiFo will still do the warranty work though

  • @julesgrill2490
    @julesgrill2490 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you, Big-D, for the sacrafice(s) you made/make... Your videos are VERY-MUCH appreciated!
    Again.... Thank YOU

    • @wal
      @wal  5 лет назад

      Thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @JaMarvelousjmar
    @JaMarvelousjmar 7 лет назад +184

    Bro you just helped a lot of guys out with their black Friday wish list lol

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад +38

      +jmar662 jmar662 just buy using my links so I can buy more stuff to test 😊🤙

    • @shawnschuldt454
      @shawnschuldt454 7 лет назад +17

      I've had 2 hifonics Brutus amps that have been at .5 for their entire life. No I'll effect in the last 7 years.

    • @phila8160
      @phila8160 6 лет назад +3

      Have had a brx2400 at .5 ohms till I took it out and strapped 2 brx2000 at 1 ohm which is .5 each and it bangs every day

    • @dirtydantb5911
      @dirtydantb5911 6 лет назад +19

      shawn schuldt I’ve also had hifonics amp running.5 for cpl years no issues!!ppl always gotta hate if it’s not a sundown amp god forbid so many sundown nut huggers it’s crazy not every one can afford a $1,000 amp ya know

    • @troyg3831
      @troyg3831 6 лет назад +10

      Yeah I had a BXi1610D that I had wired to 1 ohm.... Turns out I ordered the wrong subs and didn't notice for 10 years... What I thought were DVC 4ohm subs were actually DVC 2ohm. Meaning they were wired for .5 I think... I never noticed. Amp worked great for 6 years in the Texas heat and never cut out.

  • @07zx14White
    @07zx14White 7 лет назад

    First off thanks Derek for once again taking one for the team. We really appreciate what your doing. But damn the Hifonics does it again. For the money I just don't think you can go wrong with one. I ran a 2k Brutus at around .67 ohms daily for about 3-4 years and never a problem but that was 8-10 years ago. Look for the price of these to go up on Amazon now because of this video. Seems to me it may be a solid contender if kept at the recommended resistance. Thanks again man.

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад

      +Kevin Ball I agree. Great performer and clean sounds on the test sub as well. I was going to get additional footage, but if you watch until the end, you'll know why I couldn't do this 😔

  • @joshhanson6777
    @joshhanson6777 7 лет назад +10

    I've been waiting for you 2 do one of these. Thank you!

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад

      +Josh Hanson don't blame HiFonics for my dumb 0.5 ohm testing...hopefully they will see this and cut me a break for torture testing this amp. I hate I killed it, totally bummed 😔

    • @joshhanson6777
      @joshhanson6777 7 лет назад

      BigDWiz you know these are the same as the hifonics 2600's that like $159 on ebay. Same board. Your board probably even has 2600 wrote on it next to the 3016.

  • @allenmcswain5151
    @allenmcswain5151 4 года назад +1

    @Willistonaudiolabs im honestly surprised it didn't happen after the .67 ohms to even see almost 6k from a "3k" amp is amazing i would have loved to see what it could of done at .3. You never waste money in the name of research. GREAT JOB!!!!!

    • @wal
      @wal  4 года назад

      👌😬👍

  • @bradleylake6632
    @bradleylake6632 6 лет назад +6

    I own the 4K and the 2400 and love both the amps they work great

    • @bigcountrybang774
      @bigcountrybang774 6 лет назад +1

      Bradley Lake do you have the brx4016.1d?

    • @crazyhorse1755
      @crazyhorse1755 5 лет назад

      @@bigcountrybang774 i have that exact amp 4000.1d

  • @Mt38090
    @Mt38090 4 года назад

    I’ve owned this amp for about 3 years I have it wired at .5 ohms on 2 15” dual 2 ohm speakers never had any issues over heating. This amp is a beast!!!!!

  • @markburton9074
    @markburton9074 6 лет назад +17

    I get the test but I don’t get all the negative comments. The amp is rated 3000 watts. In dynamic burst with the 40hz test tone, it did about 2700 watts. In dynamic with music, it did well over 3000 watts. How is that crap? Am I missing something?

    • @inlandenterprising9836
      @inlandenterprising9836 6 лет назад +1

      mark burton the quality of that power is missing.

    • @corymerry3399
      @corymerry3399 6 лет назад +1

      They burn up out of nowhere. I won't ever buy hifonics again.

    • @kyletesene1414
      @kyletesene1414 6 лет назад +4

      The numbers your looking for are going to be from a certified standpoint. Dynamic burst mode is at the amps max output. Not what you want in realworld applications, since it would cause the amp to overheat, shutdown, clip, etc. But an Orion HCCA amp. Big wiz dyno'd all the 3000 watt contenders out there, and it SMOKED EVERYTHING. Over 13,000 watts at 0.5 ohms for under 700.00

    • @jweezy216
      @jweezy216 5 лет назад +3

      cory merry yea you probably didn’t have enough power to support the amp that’s why. They are power hungry

    • @corymerry3399
      @corymerry3399 5 лет назад

      @@jweezy216 I know that now. It was one of my first amps

  • @komontemonroe9330
    @komontemonroe9330 6 лет назад

    I’ve been waiting for you to do this one. I bought it when it first came out and fell in love. I also have the hiFonics class D 4000watt that i haven’t tried yet. Thanks for what you do brother 👍

  • @kentuckyblugrass
    @kentuckyblugrass 5 лет назад +5

    WOW😦 Was not expecting that type of performance. Love your videos man.👊

  • @majorwilkesjr.5827
    @majorwilkesjr.5827 7 лет назад

    And here I was looking at SSL 5000 . I think you just found my Christmas gift to myself . Thanks man .

  • @regalt1987
    @regalt1987 7 лет назад +7

    I remember back in the 90's when hifonics ruled... Would love to see you bench a serious VII Boltar or Zeus

    • @mikehileman9476
      @mikehileman9476 4 года назад +1

      They went down when they switched from Zed.

    • @TunedMercedes
      @TunedMercedes 3 года назад +1

      I still run a Hercules it's like 20 years old.

    • @635mobile7
      @635mobile7 3 года назад +1

      Bro I got 2 of them since 1992 and they are still pumping!

  • @2AChef-n-BBQ
    @2AChef-n-BBQ 2 года назад

    Ive been running a brutus and zeus in my car fir about 6 years. Im a rocker not a bumper, and they have worked flawlessly for me. Excellent for old guys like me who like loud but not bump🤘🏼🎸🔥🤘🏼

    • @wal
      @wal  2 года назад +1

      👌😬👍

  • @elomeli211
    @elomeli211 6 лет назад +20

    Bro please please PLEASE test out the Brx4016.1D?? PLEASE! I would love to see that and I'm sure others would as well! THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO MY BASS BROTHER!!

  • @rob22849
    @rob22849 7 лет назад +3

    not to bad considering the price nice vid big d. honestly and I know u guys are gonna think I'm crazy if I had a nice budget to get amp but didn't wanna spend a lot I would get a hifonics. but the crazy thing is even though it got close according to the droppin hertz videos the crecendo 3500 didn't do rated either by about 145 watts I believe ? now I kownu guys probably think that's petty but really it's not becuase when u factor a price tag of 700-800 bucks for a new one I would expect it to do rated and than some especially when u got amps that can and cost less in the same power range. I love seeing these videos becuase it at least gives u an idea of what type of power your getting or not getting again good job big d.

  • @rhodges26
    @rhodges26 7 лет назад

    I was actually shocked by the results! I love your videos keep em coming.

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад

      +Randall hodges I was shocked too...almost literally 🤣

  • @blech71
    @blech71 6 лет назад +11

    Also what is the signal line output voltage, I remember back in the day it was like 2v on my older decks and when they went to 4v it seemed like everything got louder by default.

    • @fishrrelaxing9361
      @fishrrelaxing9361 3 года назад

      Not louder.. cleaner.. the higher the voltage the cleaner you can get the signal which does technically result in louder rona point cause you can run a little more power before distortion.. but honestly 2-4v is minor improvement.. maybe 3-4% overall where as the 1.5 to 2v was like a 50% improvement.. above 2v there just isn’t much to gain which is why we started to see those few Sony or alpines that went to 5v but few years later everything fell back to 4v as the standard

  • @indopleaser
    @indopleaser 7 лет назад

    said it before. best 'tuber on youtube. and consistently too. hope this channel was not going to fizzle out when completed dyno testing all amps owned. sure 'nough. never seize to amaze. big D. a hero.

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад

      +indopleaser there are 100's of brands and 1000's of models since the 70's. I doubt I'll ever run out of amps to test, but will be doing vids other than Dyno tests also

    • @indopleaser
      @indopleaser 7 лет назад

      BigDWiz been into speaker building. like floorstanders. you could be them and measure all those things like decay times, off axis response, freq response, break up modes, spl, distortion, phase, timing. not an expert. so another 'tube channel to teach is always welcome.

  • @shawnrufus7579
    @shawnrufus7579 7 лет назад +8

    @BigDWiz when you removed the cover @11:03 I saw soot on the cover??

  • @joecool7165
    @joecool7165 5 лет назад

    Personally I like when you run them to your burn him. Then we know what they actually are capable of handling. I watch your stuff all the time. I highly recommend my friends to watch your stuff also. You give the true information of what things are. Keep up the good work I will keep watching.

  • @marcmathes41
    @marcmathes41 6 лет назад +3

    this video is why i got my Hifonics Goliath 5k amps because 2700rms on a 3k peek rated amp is impressive for the $329.00 i spent on each amp i can hope i get 4k rms and just be happy with what i paid for them.

    • @wal
      @wal  6 лет назад

      The reliability on these is a bit sketchy (in my experience), but if it works for you then that’s all that matters

    • @marcmathes41
      @marcmathes41 6 лет назад

      i will let you know if i pop something on it. what to you think of infinite baffle setups?

    • @vasanthkumar5470
      @vasanthkumar5470 6 лет назад

      Vasanthappa

    • @philipdavis4750
      @philipdavis4750 5 лет назад

      I had goliath 5k on 4 crossfire BMF 15s and the brutus 3000 on 8 brutus 12s in the same vehicle. 2002 Tahoe. Loudest set up I ever owned

    • @timarias1529
      @timarias1529 5 лет назад

      Harbor Freight air compressor for painting cars which one's the best

  • @danielbeavers8701
    @danielbeavers8701 5 лет назад

    I have always had positive experience with hifonics. I've got a 3200 watt Zeus and 500 watt bruites ELITE Hooked up on 2 12" Solobaric l7 I've had it 10 years and the amps have never had a single problem. There great for the price

    • @wal
      @wal  5 лет назад

      Great feedback. In my experience the recent models are hit or miss in reliability

    • @danielbeavers8701
      @danielbeavers8701 5 лет назад

      Glad you told me this. What is the best amp for the buck?????

    • @shoof1696
      @shoof1696 5 лет назад

      @@danielbeavers8701 i dont like the way they trick consumers by putting x2 60a fuse in their amps but only 1 is connected to the board. the zeus amps have that setup. as for your question are you talking about monoblock amps? what wattage? any features you prefer like can it go down to .5 ohm, includes bass knob with clip light or tiffany female rca? do you want a Brazilian, korean or Chinese board

  • @trudeaumustgo1920
    @trudeaumustgo1920 6 лет назад +3

    Alpine mrd series are beauty's from back in the day

  • @chrislund8429
    @chrislund8429 4 года назад

    Liking the Hifonics test by Big D. It has all the elements covered by him that I have questions about, numbers and seen, recorded, compared. Answers are to be had,by all. While I think that a manufacturer should be as clear, truthful, and direct as ever about the claims made on an amplifier, I also can work with whatever facts get divulged. Now we know, for the money, what Brutus amps are made of, what in heck Hifonics means by peak power ratingd, and some little surprises like efficiency numbers. I believe that this is a good amp for the money, even though it's not spot on specs. But it makes me feel a little vexed at Hifonics, for being obscure. Thanks for a great show, and very great information 👍🔥

  • @bkrgls
    @bkrgls 7 лет назад +11

    Man...my mouth dropped from the numbers this amp put up. Waaaayyyy better than what I was expecting. I expected around 2k RMS! Are you gonna get it repaired?

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад +10

      +bkrgls I'm hoping HiFonics will replace it for me. I just did some QA torture testing for them...yeah, that's what it was 😜

    • @bkrgls
      @bkrgls 7 лет назад +1

      BigDWiz
      LOL...🖒

    • @Dixonyass-g8v
      @Dixonyass-g8v 6 лет назад

      BigDWiz LMAO!!! You a foo!

    • @derek9081
      @derek9081 6 лет назад

      @@wal I doubt they will replace it since you opened up the amp. Those 2 stickers on the bottom of the amp that you cut say "Warranty Void if removed"

    • @mrk7201
      @mrk7201 5 лет назад

      @@wal I have a good feeling they will hook you up.
      Good Job Bro You gave them good advertising

  • @adamgreen3582
    @adamgreen3582 7 лет назад

    I have one of these and have been waiting quite some time for a dyno. thanks BigD

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад

      +Adam Green lots of people are searching for HiFonics Amp Dyno vids...little birdy called Google Search informed me 😜. I have a few older ones to test as well

  • @Brian1.
    @Brian1. 7 лет назад +4

    Did the toroids burn up as well as the transistors? This was a stupid awesome video Big D! You really know how to make this interesting. Just like with you, I'm a big fan of 5 Star Car Stereo. I hope you and Dean/Fernando get to colab! Thanks brother.

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад

      Oh yeah, Dean and Fernando rock da house! We have a few things in mind to work on together, hope it pans out soon!

  • @emersonmayeaux2482
    @emersonmayeaux2482 Год назад

    Back in 1986 I had a Hifonics Odin 150 watt amp on some Savard Hi-q subs and was awesome. Have it to my little brother and he tortured it for a few years till someone broke in his car and stole his system. Point being, Hifonics used to be an excellent company that made too of the line amplifiers that were grossly underrated and had excellent sound quality. Some criminal is probably still bumpin his subs with my old outdated amplifier today. I think I gave around 500 bucks for that puppy way back then.

  • @jonrockgoodpeopledosomethi6638
    @jonrockgoodpeopledosomethi6638 6 лет назад +5

    Wasn't $260 wasted since now guys are going to do 30 second Burps at 1/2 ohm thanks to you.

    • @wal
      @wal  6 лет назад +11

      And most likely be ok as they are going to see impedance rise while the resistors used in this test stay solid at 0.5

    • @juniorsonnie5858
      @juniorsonnie5858 6 лет назад +1

      BigDWiz exactly

  • @Tornado4TheLord
    @Tornado4TheLord 5 лет назад

    Thank you so much for the videos bro, the most informal car audio vids online, not to mention you come out your own pocket to do these test. My hats off.

  • @PopJacare
    @PopJacare 4 года назад +11

    The Sanford and Son “Big Dummy” clip was PRICELESS!!🤣🤣🤣😂😂💪🏽👍🏾🙏🏽

  • @fredricocash6728
    @fredricocash6728 7 лет назад

    I know a couple people love these amps. Couldn't find a dyno of this amp until today. Thank u. I purchased this amp and have it pushing 2 sundown x's. Sounds damn good but I'm pissed & happy at the same time lmfao. Damn'it. Once again I've been lied too by the industry lol. Thanks Bid D !!!!

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад +1

      +Fredrico Cash other than questionable ratings, I felt this amp did really well until I pushed it to the limits

    • @fredricocash6728
      @fredricocash6728 7 лет назад

      BigDWiz yea it did good and bad lol. Thanks

  • @TheCpuCrew
    @TheCpuCrew 7 лет назад +8

    Not a bad amp for the money! Thanks for the video !

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад +1

      +David Heston just don't run under 1 ohm and you should be good 😬

  • @joeldavis2258
    @joeldavis2258 7 лет назад

    Thanks for working hard for us. Just bought a whole new system based off of what you do for us. Thank you!

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад

      +Joel Davis awesome, thanks bro!

  • @Outty5000Hertz
    @Outty5000Hertz 7 лет назад +12

    So happy you tested this amp! I know a ton of people who live and die by Hifonics brutus amps & I'm always telling them those amps don't do rated!

    • @focused313
      @focused313 7 лет назад +4

      john wagner they don't need to... If you're paying less than $200 for over 2k rms that's solid. They are very power hungry though.

    • @chupamishuevos303
      @chupamishuevos303 7 лет назад

      i told my friends the same thing plus they brake easy mine came blown didnt work lol when i bought it new. my friend bought a used one only one side work lol

    • @Outty5000Hertz
      @Outty5000Hertz 7 лет назад +2

      chupamishuevos303 they used to be the crown jewel brand of car audio until Maxxsonics brought them and turned into trash.

    • @AgentEran
      @AgentEran 7 лет назад

      They had a few solid models after Maxxsonics purchase, but lots of junk coming under crunch & mb quart etc.. especially in the later 2000s

    • @jarrettjohnson4044
      @jarrettjohnson4044 7 лет назад +1

      john wagner you must be from the chi. They barely give them away out here

  • @pissedoffconservative347
    @pissedoffconservative347 4 года назад +1

    One thing people need to know is they will never see that power out of her.
    Most see these videos and think if I run half ohm I'll run 4700, but with box rise depending on their rise , .
    That test is done while staying at half ohm.
    No set up in history will ever stay half ohm while playing

    • @LexusYachtClub
      @LexusYachtClub 4 года назад

      If that's all you care about it can be done

  • @stacy532
    @stacy532 7 лет назад +9

    ouch the smoke . thanks for the test .I would assume the music track would easily let this amp do rated power at all ohm levels? it killed the 1ohm rating dynamically with the music track . its funny on the efficiency because many of the hifonics haters on the smd forum claim you might get 2k watts from them at 1ohm but they take in over 4k of current to do so. they have always claimed the hifonics amps are the least efficient amp on the market. this shows differently. I was wondering if you could go back and check that massive baby amp you had the nano amp that did rated power at one test but not very close on the last test. I wonder if that music track would help that amp do rated power on the dyno vs just the test tones? also those magical boss 4k amps might benefit from those music tracks....lol

  • @Jboost412
    @Jboost412 4 года назад +2

    The please break my window stickers lol...always wondered if they’re still putting down the power there known for....and good lord they are 5800+ watts at .5 that’s very impressive, burned up some mosfets but that’s what testing is all about! Great job as always

    • @wal
      @wal  4 года назад

      Thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @thenotoriousrvh6091
    @thenotoriousrvh6091 7 лет назад +8

    Thank goodness for Amazon's 30 day return lol you are a Prime member I hope.

  • @toualee2935
    @toualee2935 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks for testing this amp out. Pretty satisfied with the outcome.

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад

      +Toua Lee me too...until the end...nooooooo 😲

  • @boxchevydame
    @boxchevydame 4 года назад +10

    New sub 👍 thinking about getting 2 hifoncs brutas 15s would this be a good amp for them?

  • @flsabvb7578
    @flsabvb7578 5 месяцев назад

    I remember the old school ones. I had a Thor and was very good. I don’t know what happened. Great video my friend 💪

  • @igorsriekstins10
    @igorsriekstins10 7 лет назад +10

    Can you review Ground zero amps? they have a 1400w one that promises 1200w rms at 1ohm!

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад +3

      +Igors Riekstins I'm sure I can eventually. ThNks for watching and commenting 🤙

    • @dawn9340
      @dawn9340 7 лет назад +1

      Yeah GZ puts out some awesome products. You probably won’t notice a 200 watt difference, but the meter might.

    • @Skarfar90
      @Skarfar90 7 лет назад

      Ground Zero should be on par with the well respected American brands though.
      I'm pretty sure they won't lie about ratings on their amps, as they do cost quite a bit.
      Same can probably be said about brands like B2, DynaBel and Alphard Audio, as most of the companies that make high-power amps get their parts from the same manufacturer (in many cases, the amplifier boards are made by FS/Zenon) - That's probably why you see many companies sell amps that look pretty similar to eachother. Sundown Audio and DC Audio being a couple of examples

    • @djredhareaus38
      @djredhareaus38 7 лет назад +1

      I have a ground zero amp and sub had it for over a year now and it's awesome but pricey

    • @treynathaniel4075
      @treynathaniel4075 7 лет назад +1

      Donate or contribute and the amps will keep on coming.

  • @jasonwilson9814
    @jasonwilson9814 7 лет назад

    Big D love your show, it's hard to get the magic smoke back inside
    Bass head since the late 80's!
    Keep it up!!!

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад

      +Jason Wilson word up! Thanks for watching and commenting homie!

  • @BblastedD
    @BblastedD 7 лет назад +4

    Big D for tha win!

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад

      +BblastedD BigD for da BOOM 💥🤣

  • @craigreustle2192
    @craigreustle2192 7 лет назад

    I have an older version of this amp. I'm glad it can get close to it's advertised numbers.

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад

      +Craig Reustle I was surprised at how well it did

  • @Neuey_Laser_Beams
    @Neuey_Laser_Beams 7 лет назад +8

    I wanna see the 4000 watt hifonics

    • @streetlegal6988
      @streetlegal6988 6 лет назад +1

      JDM Toys do they cuz I was planning to buy 1

    • @streetlegal6988
      @streetlegal6988 6 лет назад

      JDM Toys there is to many brands out there now I was looking at the CT sound too also some 1 told me Wolfram but never heard about it

    • @streetlegal6988
      @streetlegal6988 6 лет назад +2

      JDM Toys I have a sq (soundquebed) for my kids and highs I was planning to keep everything sq but I only have around 300 to spend I have couple of subs that I can play with also I seen that the cab 1600.1 does rated

    • @streetlegal6988
      @streetlegal6988 6 лет назад +1

      JDM Toys also seen that the skar 4500.1 d it's on sale for 400 of 450

    • @slayer91340
      @slayer91340 6 лет назад

      streetlegal6988 I have a Brx 2416 and its been flawless. Nothing unreliable about it. Most peopld getting Hifonics, get it for the price. Run a stock electrical supply...not good for any amp and sub. I thought I was having issues with either sub or amp, them bought a Mechman 320 alt and all the problems went away and I was able to get a lot louder. Its been good to me. But I did just upgrade yesterday to the Skar RP3500

  • @TunedMercedes
    @TunedMercedes 3 года назад

    I still run a hifonic Hercules to this day, about 20 years old! Just installed one into a MB CLS. Ran it with JL 18w6, infinity kappa 12", and now 2 x 10" JL w0 v3.

  • @Geerladenlad
    @Geerladenlad 7 лет назад +5

    So what ended up happening did you send this back?

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад

      +Geerladenlad not yet. Too much going on

  • @clintrichardson8236
    @clintrichardson8236 4 года назад

    Pure Hero stuff right there!!!!!! When it's throat competition that's how champions are made!!!!!!Bravo! Bro! I'm sold I want 3! Sign me up!!!!!!

  • @blackdiamond7907
    @blackdiamond7907 5 лет назад +1

    Hifonincs are bad ass amps. Back in the 90s any Punch or hifonics amps were top of the line .

  • @ancientalien815
    @ancientalien815 5 лет назад +3

    You gotta get some more hifonics in the shop. You had a blast with this one haha! For real though!

  • @rodroberson362
    @rodroberson362 7 лет назад +1

    the vid was awesome dude, I signed up can't wait to see more! This particular amp has been under my consideration for about 2 weeks now. Thanks again😎

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад +1

      Glad to have you here. Be prepared for different types of vids, amp tests are my main videos, but I do other vids about audio equipment. Like to mix things up a bit, hopefully keep peeps interested, lol

  • @mrk7201
    @mrk7201 5 лет назад +3

    You know it's funky, funky, funky cos you heard it from hear-say
    A jam that you love that don't be gettin' no airplay
    Strictly for frontin' when you're ridin' around
    12 o'clock at night with your windows down
    Headlights breakin' 'cause your batteries drain
    Armor all on your tires and a big gold chain
    Parkin' outside of all the hip-hop spots
    Push the E-Q and play connect the dots
    Leanin' to the side, people everywhere
    The trunk full of amps, there ain't no room for a spare
    Big beats bumpin' with the bass in back
    All the sophisticated suckers catch a heart attack
    Cause they don't understand why I act this way
    Pumpin' up the funky beat until the break of day
    It's because I want attention when I'm ridin' by
    And the girls be on my jock cos my system's fly
    Girlies wanna ride with a brother like me
    Cause they be hear me gettin' funky frequently
    They tell me don't drink and drive, I say what is this
    Mind your business
    Now pass it around
    Laid back, hypnotized by the funky sound
    People in the street see me bobbin my head
    While I'm checking out the rapper and the rhyme that he said
    I'm fronting, and I don't care if you know
    The backseat of my car is like a disco show
    You would think I was a good friend of Al Capone
    Crazy air freshener, who needs cologne
    Bottom to the bottom to the top to the top
    Cruise, it's 3 o'clock
    The girlies, they smile, they see me coming
    I'm steady huming, I got the Funky Drumer druming
    My trunk be shaking, vibrating and rattling
    Pumping so loud, all the shorties be battling
    A right-hand man's here without the swing
    Every chance I get I'm showing off my rings
    I can keep it up until the break of dawn
    Cos I'm fronting in my ride and my word is bond
    Sun roof open, so I can feel the wind blow
    I don't give a damn if it cracks my back window
    C to the o to the o to the l to the i to the n
    To the f to the r to the o to the 'n' to the t to the i to the n
    That means I'm chilling

  • @vnard899
    @vnard899 6 лет назад +1

    Hifonics always made great amps! I had the Zeus in the early 90s pushing two 18s.

    • @wal
      @wal  6 лет назад

      The new HiFonics are not what they used to be. Brand name is all that’s the same. Amps are more powerful now, but not built as well (but also cost WAY less)

    • @cpufrost
      @cpufrost 6 лет назад

      I had one as well. The Colossus was actually two Zeus' strapped together. Like the classic Rockford Fosgate, no longer made in USA and definitely not the same quality either.

  • @qjuanwhite8285
    @qjuanwhite8285 7 лет назад +14

    I got 2 of these I'm going to get 2 Skar SKv2-3500.1D next

  • @Jt19702
    @Jt19702 9 месяцев назад

    Most importantly to remember, in the 80’s to early 2000’s the subwoofer’s were built to be efficient and was rated at much lower rms. I had (2) OG Kicker Gold letter 18’s (200-300 rms ea.) in a sealed box on a Crossfire 600D and that setup hit with so much authority and you felt it in your chess just standing near the car. Todays subs require so much more power to get the same effect, so these amps can only do so much in todays era.

  • @abrahamdiaz1496
    @abrahamdiaz1496 7 лет назад +14

    Dude i use to have oldschool hifonics 2 ohm stable good amps

  • @lilbill11891
    @lilbill11891 5 лет назад +1

    I dailied that same amp at .5 ohm on 4 15s for ever still have it in my current build 5 years solid now its a power hog but for the price it does work.

  • @alpine2k355
    @alpine2k355 7 лет назад +6

    Just wanted to say I really like this channel. When you test the old school stuff it brings back good memories :D. Just wondering, do you plan on testing some Xtant amps? Been curious how well they do on the dyno. I'm still running a 403a in my truck and still sounds great.

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад +2

      Eventually, yes 😬👍

    • @narmale
      @narmale 2 года назад

      oh man those xtants were some WEIRD amps, but i look at them now, i kinda like em... they are deff rare now

  • @patrickleven1215
    @patrickleven1215 3 года назад

    My 2 yr old and I love these videos

  • @joshh587
    @joshh587 6 лет назад +3

    Hey BigDWiz, juts want to say I like ur reviews. If possible could you dyno the
    MB Quart DA1-3000.1
    3000 watt amp. There's not one dyno of that amp on RUclips. It would be much appreciated. Thx

  • @TheLpeak1979
    @TheLpeak1979 6 лет назад +2

    Had 2 of these strapped @1 half ohm each on a single zv5 15 clamped 800+ amps lol ran for a year no issues was on 800 amp hrs and a 320 amp alt though other than getting hot as hell not to bad

  • @sleeper10s61
    @sleeper10s61 7 лет назад +8

    I don't get y ppl dislike your vid it's not your company don't get it

    • @vocalone23
      @vocalone23 7 лет назад +2

      sleeper10s i believe they only hate his videos because he exposes the myths, and also it shuts up the watt story boosters....He Proves It...And every amp is tested on the same source.

    • @joeambly6807
      @joeambly6807 7 лет назад

      He is also pretty cheesy, so maybe some people dont like the cheese lol

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад +8

      +sleeper10s because their momma's slap them each morning. They have to take it out on somebody 🤣

  • @captain8960
    @captain8960 4 года назад

    I have a hifonics 1200.1D and a 1600.1D from a few years back and still booming till this day

  • @HoUsEoFcAtS78
    @HoUsEoFcAtS78 7 лет назад +3

    Are these not CEA 2006 compliant???

    • @shawnrufus7579
      @shawnrufus7579 7 лет назад +2

      CEA 2006 is a joke, it's an honor system.

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад

      +Adam Moore no mention anywhere I could find...not on this series at least

    • @trecedaves3159
      @trecedaves3159 7 лет назад

      They are not

    • @nukedathlonman
      @nukedathlonman 7 лет назад

      Nope, but as demoed a short while ago, that cert label isn't exactly the end all and be all of must haves.

    • @HoUsEoFcAtS78
      @HoUsEoFcAtS78 7 лет назад

      For the price, not too bad of an amp. But not very trustworthy with their power ratings. And not really impressed with no power rating in the manual. Hifonics has really slipped from the quality standpoint.

  • @Olorin7
    @Olorin7 7 лет назад

    Yes! I was waiting to see this amp on here! Thanks for putting it through the ringer for us

    • @wal
      @wal  7 лет назад

      +AL Fonz thanks for watching and commenting

  • @robertdunn1545
    @robertdunn1545 6 лет назад +4

    LMFAO @couldn't leave well enough alone huh?! Awesome video

    • @wal
      @wal  6 лет назад +4

      At least HiFo took it back 😬

  • @HappyHarryHardon
    @HappyHarryHardon 3 года назад

    Hifonics always had my heart; and you broke both of them! Lol. Thank you for doing the music test.

  • @KINGKJ2REAL
    @KINGKJ2REAL 7 лет назад +10

    I just bought a sundown 1500 watt amp for 450 dollars 😭😭😭 so you telling me this amp cheaper and puts out more power ?

    • @FinnaBin
      @FinnaBin 7 лет назад +3

      KINGKJ2REAL lol that sundown is still more efficient and is .5 ohm stable all day no worries, it will do like 3 probly easy

    • @KINGKJ2REAL
      @KINGKJ2REAL 7 лет назад +1

      Dans Pistola i want to see it on a dyno. I have it at two ohms on a sundown type X it hits hard but not much harder then my kenwood amp that I had on it that cost 160. I guess I need to get the sundown amp to 1 ohm to really see what it can do

    • @jnf932
      @jnf932 7 лет назад

      KINGKJ2REAL if possible 1/2 ohm

    • @FinnaBin
      @FinnaBin 7 лет назад

      Yea bro u need to put it to 1 ohm or .5 if u got good electric

    • @KINGKJ2REAL
      @KINGKJ2REAL 7 лет назад

      Dans Pistola my sundown type X 12 is duel 4 ohm so 2ohm is lowest I can go. I have 0 gauge wire with battery in trunk and also another amp on my doors. My voltage sits around 13.5 when moving and gets to 12 volts when at stop lights full tilt

  • @jeffneedstogivejakeaturnon1083
    @jeffneedstogivejakeaturnon1083 7 лет назад

    Thanks for the sacrifice D!
    It made for a great video and now I know, if you feed those things enough juice, they'll put out crazy numbers.

  • @tacutn6
    @tacutn6 7 лет назад +3

    D. Try techmaster peb as a test track. Birmingham Alabama

    • @3029dz
      @3029dz 6 лет назад

      I still have the CD from 1998