We're all talking about the It Ends With Us drama, but let's not forget the monarch of this. The start. Thank you for reminding us of THE main diva, Ashley.
@@hair.goblinnnI think fans of the book (mainly woman) don't want any more drama around this story. 😭 We also don't want our CW stars feuding . I will say this movie had to have controversy and drama somewhere just based around all the controversy and drama that the book and the author has I just don't think anyone saw it coming from here. I don't know maybe you're right maybe the movie was true enough to the book for people's likings and was a pretty good movie so they found drama elsewhere I don't know but I know a lot of the book fans are like whyyyyyy lol
@@koelkastridder3388And then the poor thing put his beautiful voice on a Disney feature film only for it to be the most disappointing and critically panned one in decades.
People make fun of that quote but I understand what he meant. Harry should’ve said “making a movie that feels truly/classically cinematic” or something of that like
People always cut off what Harry said half way through, the end of the comment was a go to the theatre movie, which is a perfectly reasonable comment to make when promoting your film in a world os streaming.Also to criticise someone for not being privileged enough to have had a university education when he was getting an education in the music industry from the age of 16 and earning millions before he was 20 seems a bit of a high horse.
@@koelkastridder3388the light was never in Chris Pine that day, he looked stoned the entire time and said later they were all jet lagged and joking about the promotional word salad they ALL contributed to. Also Styles was in the middle of 15 consecutive nights playing Madison square gardens and flew out to Venice before being back on stage the following night
I'm actually glad they toned down Jack's abusive character. I think it's scarier that he feels more like a regular guy than a monster. Rather than being a movie about an abusive relationship, it makes it more about how even the "nice guy" can refuse to see you as a person. It becomes a dissection of incel culture this way and I think it's one of the few things about the movie that really worked.
I think it also shows just how unexpected guys like this can be. They don't come out and explain all of their toxic views at first because they KNOW it would turn women away. So they play a long game.
@@MorganVsTheInternethe IS outwardly misogynistic and abusive. he traps her in a house, gaslights her and tries to medicate her against her will. and that’s before the big reveal!
I love the picture of Florence Pugh having to take over direction because Olivia and Harry were screwing in the broom closet. I can almost believe it, it’s just a little too delicious for it to be the truth. That was probably a nightmare job for the poor crew, or a very entertaining one. It’s hard to say.
My mother was served divorce papers on Christmas Eve. My dad didn’t tell anyone in the family it was happening, so it was a complete surprise to everyone. He told the guy serving the papers not to serve them to her at work, because he didn’t want to embarrass her. Apparently the guy kept missing her when he tried to serve her. So he ended up at the house on Christmas Eve, serving my mom divorce papers. Merry Christmas.
I will be honest. I forgot Ted Lasso was Jason Sudeikis. I had the exact opposite problem from his fanbase. Literally you put a mustache on that man and I'm like "Oh yeah Coach Ted." Then you remove that mustache and I'm like "yes that's comedic actor Jason Sudeikis." They are literally two different people to me 😭
speaking as someone who was an olivia wilde fan, a jason sudeikis fan, a harry styles fan AND a florence pugh fan prior to don't worry darling, to say it was a battlefield does not cut it. i genuinely was losing my mind trying to have a normal conversation about the film on the internet.
Funnily enough, this is the movie that got me from work friend to actual friend status. I don’t really watch movies in theaters, but a coworker of mine really likes Harry styles so we went to go see it together and solidified our friendship. None of us have been at that job for over a year at this point, but we talk daily and now play D&D together so. Thank you don’t worry darling?💀
Bombas ACTUALLY donates the socks too (and crazy amounts of them!) Our local shower truck received a huge donation from the company and I have first hand seen the good they’ve done in my community. I love this sponsorship! ❤
@@hospitable_ghost in my experience the ones we received are the same as the ones sold in store, that is to say very high quality. I am not an athletic tight sock type person but they have been very popular. I have received them in several roles; at the college student support closet, for our foster youth, and now for my unhoused behavioral health clients.
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Ashley 100% has more legal knowledge than I do, but I do have to say that my mom had to hire a process server to notify my dad of her filing for divorce and specifically said “Do not do it at the house because my kids will be there” and the guy quite literally knocked on our door when I (at age 13) was home alone the next day. So they may not take their client’s directions into account all that much.
@@ashleynorton Not actually very possible considering the process server had no way of getting into Cinemacon unless someone pulled strings, and they skipped COVID protocols AND had to buy a $1.000 ticket, not knowing if they'd be reimbursed. It's preposterous to believe they did that without the explicit consent by Jason.
The ‘10 minute standing ovation’ things are real 😭 I took a film class and I guess it’s like they have individual actors & crew stand up and the clapping ranges in volume during the ovation.
the fact that he had a history of abusive behavior towards his partner already and Olivia was comfortable having him in this role shows she was never the right woman for this movie. I'm so sad because I love the concept of this movie having grown up on The Stepford Wives. I think it could have been a huge hit and created much needed discussions around Incel culture and consent in the right hands.
The thing that bothered me about the Jason/Olivia split, is that he was also dating someone in 2020/2021. She didn’t leave him for Harry, and he started seeing someone else, too.
She did leave him for Harry. She did cheat on him with Harry. She and her team have put a lot of work into changing the timeline and narrative to repair her image, but the facts remain.
it sucks cause this movie really had the ability to be a hit. despite harry's bad acting, the scene where they're arguing about how alice hated her life in the real world and she says "it was my life" was genuinely great (mostly just because of florence) and proved that this movie was on the cusp of making a real statement about independence and feminine autonomy but fell flat in the end
@lupakajsalisa3652 was just gonna say this 😭 I started doing it too subconsciously just in my daily life because of him and my friends do not get the reference LMAO
I’m glad u took the bombas sponsor, they stick to their word. When I was staying in a couple of homeless shelters I’d be given lots of Bombas socks and they were so comfortable. 😭🤣
It's absolutely wild to me that Shia's apology - while being a country mile away from acceptable and truly accountable - isn't remotely the worst response to accusations of abuse I've ever read.
I completely disagree, there is literally no way to do what you mentioned, you cannot take accountability in an apology. Actions prove the meaning of the words
You should check out his conversation with Jon Bernthal, he talks all about it and his remorse and how he will spend the rest of his life making amends. It is a really great interview.
@@PropheticShadeZ Okay, two questions: 1) Did you think I said Shia took accountability with his apology? If so, please re-read what I said. If your contention is that I implied you *can* take accountability with a public apology, then again, you have inferred something which I haven't implied. 2) If that's your true contention, then what is the workable response to your own public wrongdoing? Entering spaces where you can atone for your past sins requires you to enter spaces with people you might have wronged in the past, or who would feel insecure at your unannounced presence. If you can only atone by *doing* then something must first signal your intent to do so, no? A public apology, taking accountability would surely highlight your intent to do more work in the space to rectify the damage you've done, would be the preferable route, I think. Anything else is a vengeful desire to see people cast into the sun for fucking up. And I can tell you: our current *justice* system proves that that method doesn't work. If you're only treated like a pariah for wrongdoing, you never want to get better, because you're always that outsider.
@@royalxprincessbaka6875 Fully agreed. The bar is in hell, and like I said: I don't think it remotely comes close to making up for his harm, but it's a very astute apology.
hey ashley don’t forget about our class homework assignment! it seems it may have slipped your mind to collect it, but don’t worry fellow students i reminded her :)
I cannot stress how much anxiety I have thinking about the media coverage of FKA Twigs suing her abuser. I am not ready for it. And I can't imagine how scary it must be for any women to try to seek justice in this climate.
The media is one thing, but Shia himself is another. In his interview with Jon Bernthal, he takes full accountability for his actions and talks about how he will be making amends for the rest of his life for his a**hole past.
off topic, but there's something so wild about actual cannibal shia labeouf being the sole legacy of rob cantor for a large amount of people, and tally hall not being a part of it AT ALL 😭
He did a lot of music for the disney channel show "the ghost and molly mcgee" recently! I was watching it with my kid and saw his name in the credits and just sat there pointing at the screen with excitement
@@mhauser255 yeah, there's so much i could mention. i was thinking about including that he's doing stuff for disney, and the song he did for that intel ad campaign in my original comment. not to mention the other viral videos he made, because i'm pretty sure the other thing he's known for if you don't mention tally hall is that one impressions video
As someone who had to suffer through my parents fighting hearing that Jason tried to stop oliva from leaving and laid in front of the car legit make me have flashbacks bruh
Whatever the intent of method acting at the start it very quickly became an excuse for mostly male actors to act like assholes on set and any actor who uses it seems less talented in my eye.
My brother used to paint warhammer figures when he was in school, do you make the environment also? That always seemed like the most appealing part to me, make a little world with whatever you want in it, you can specifically plan a valley and a hill with bushes to stage an ambush! The only downside is you have to use so much synthetic foam that both sounds awful to cut through and creates unrecyclable microplastics everywhere :/
@@lupakajsalisa3652 so I've done some super simple terrain crafting but nothing major. Mostly just making ruined buildings to act as basic terrain when playing with friends. Take a cardboard box, cut some jagged edges, use the corner of the box as a ruined building. Can hot glue some pieces of cardboard to create different floors and cut windows from the walls. Cover the whole thing in spackle and grey spray paint, maybe age it a bit. Can have enough pieces to cover a play board in just a couple hours and for a fraction of the cost of "real" terrain
it's wild how Olivia Wilde tried to get behind the drama by saying she wouldn't work with an a******** (Shia Labeouf) and then he exposed her and said *he* left the project, and posted the proof in which she seemingly shades Florence Pugh, and begs him to stay on the project. Shia is a bad dude (justice for FKA Twigs!) but that also made Olivia look so untrustworthy...not to mention the weirdness of sleeping with Harry. I feel bad for Chris and Florence. or "MISS FLO" as Olivia put it. *Edit: I believe the way Ashley describes the situation in this video is nuanced and measured, much more than my original comment implies.
@@covereye5731 it's definitely derogatory and belittling. I believe the stylist instagram post referenced it... When she didn't show up at the press event..the caption refered to "Miss Flo"
"any spit was spat" is making its way into all of my end of year cards. There are a LOT of gems in the script but this one made me pause the video to type this comment AND immediately figure out how to include it in a thank you note to my boss. May we all live well, in spit and spat.
Kinda crazy how people were so upset with Ariana Grande a few months ago for being a homewrecker yet when Harry Styles was in a similar situation Olivia Wide was the one people were upset with. Just interesting and I’m sure this says nothing about society as a whole…
I mean I definitely have seen the internet drag Ethan Slater several times. In fact I would argue he gets it as much as Ariana except it's easier with her because she was actually famous and she made follow up responses by her music. So of course she will definitely get it more. Idk I think this paints all of them in a bad light. Except for Chris and Florence.
@@beepboop815idk what u on about, the whole internet was calling him ugly in every possible way he was getting dragged left n right and she got hate because she had a pattern of this behaviour. Lets not change history lol
Thanks for making the link between Olivia and Harry's situation and Ariana and Ethan's. Though we don't know the full story, it's conceivable that Harry played the same role Ariana did - they both started something with a married coworker who had children. Yet, in both these scenarios, it's the woman who got the short end of the stick. Funny how that works. Nobody called Harry the homewrecker, nobody tried to sabotage him, people were actually blaming Olivia (and rightly so, I mean if anything, she's the one who cheated). Yet, when it's Ariana who's in Harry's position, nobody cares about the guy who left his wife and a child - people are dragging Ariana through the mud and putting the blame entirely on her. The two situations are almost identical, except with reversed genders. Funny how in both, it's the woman who faced most of the backlash.
While the petty drama of it all was so entertaining to follow along, this whole drama was yet another reminder that women are always, ALWAYS going to be blamed for EVERYTHING!! It was so infuriating seeing mostly other girls and women tearing down Olivia for being in a relationship with everyone's favourite, pure little innocent white boy, Harry Styles. I mean, Olivia was being rather unprofessional dating an actor she was directing and seemingly not being very present on set, but the vitriol spewed against her, from calling her a groomer to criticising her every move was disgusting and opened my eyes to all the internalized misogyny present to this day.
I've been feeling this way about all this and the Amber Heard horror show and honestly it feels so nice to have someone else say these things publicly bc I felt like I was getting gaslit by all of TikTok
In the case of Johnny, you were literally being gaslit. Half of the support for him was through bots and he’s best friends with the Saudi prince known for 💀 reporters. I suspect I know who bought those bots for him.
I had whiplash when she mentioned the amber heard situation because what i took away from the case was that they were both abusive to each other. I mean this genuinely. Is there a video i can watch that gives another perspective?
I appreciate the nuance of Ashley's analysis, as always. I especially appreciated the background about process serving. Personally, though, I don’t think Wilde's video could be reasonably interpreted as a subtle firing of LaBoeuf. It's a valid consideration how (often) women operate differently to placate violent men in their workplace. But in my opinion, Wilde's slip of "Miss Flo" tells me: she was trying to play both sides to make her movie. Her disrespect of Pugh seems too flagrant not to be sincere, and I think Pugh's response supports this interpretation.
I'm so glad you brought up the standing ovation thing at film festivals because it's always been incomprehensible to me but also something I can absolutely see film bros doing 😂😂
I still don't understand what Harry's motive would be for spitting on Chris Pine. It sounds like Jason Sudeikis is the one we should metaphorically spit on in this situation!
While I do think Olivia should be criticized. No one can convince me that the level of hate she got wasn’t because Harry styles fans hated him with an older woman. Especially one that wasn’t very likable. They couldn’t wait to have a reason to hate her. They blamed her for everything. I don’t even see that much hate for the actual abuser (Shia).
Hearing this all in a timeline definitely made me realize how serious a lot of it was, and how despite like u said being a perpetrator herself, Olivia Wilde was absolutely villainized to a point where none of the men were at all. Jason sudekis behavior especially is rly sickening and it's crazy how male comedians get away with so much horrible shit ?? Just bc they're known for being funny??
Five minutes clapping is SO LONG. Even giving my (extremely talented) niece’s high school theatre productions’ (and the school puts on *incredible* shows) standing ovations don’t get more than a minute from me.
haven’t watched the full video yet but i want to make one statement: Harry Styles did fucking spit on Chris Pine and i will NOT be hearing any comments to the contrary idc idc
I feel Ashley is too morally upstanding to speculate without evidence on WHY STYLES WOULD SPIT ON PINE. But I'm petty, so I'm desperate to know the leading theories. 😂
I don’t understand the Harry and Olivia were a PR relationship angle. Did anyone come away with a higher opinion of either Harry or Olivia? Im not saying either of them are awful people, but they came out of it looking messy. “Harry, date this woman who has just left a long relationship with the father of her 2 young children and we’ll leak stories about how you 2 were screwing each other so much on set it pissed off your co star”. - Harry’s PR team apparently. I thought PR was meant to make celebs seem more refined and family friendly.
people throw around PR Relationship like it doesn't have an actual purpose. the only celebrity relationship rn I can think of that's been beneficial to both parties is Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce. her choosing an All American Football Man basically erased the bad publicity she got when she was with Matty Healy. Kelce has gotten so much more famous than he ever would have before. not saying they're PR, just that if there was ever a case study of "How To Make Yourself More Popular Through Dating Someone", they'd be a perfect example of everything lining up to fix her PR, and skyrocket his TV/Movie career.
42:10 The standing ovations are similar to clapping for theater actors or the orchestra. The cast, director, and staff are there so people applaud to show their appreciation of their artistry
A really good video, Ashley! Thank you for making this! p.s. I'm so grateful to you for the last 5 minutes of the video! Thank you. It's amazing to find a person who have individual opinion about Depp and Amber Heard situation. You really brave to speak it out loud! ❤
great video as always. I really appreciate your nuanced take on what's clearly a complicated situation (referring to both Shia's casting and Olivia's relationship with Jason). it's pretty rare to find videos of this caliber that present such balanced and thoughtful perspectives. so thank you for that! it's always a great day when Ashley Norton uploads :)
I think about this movie a lot!! I had no idea about the drama lol. I think it’s so good but I hate that at the end it’s revealed the mastermind was a woman all along?? Like I think it’s a great criticism of the ‘make America great again’ and incels wanting to put women back in the kitchen, etc. by showing how awful and suffocating and trapped it makes the women feel. And then that reveal just completely undermines the message :/ The simulation twist also got me, I was expecting it to lead into a reveal that they were working on the Manhattan project and there was going to be nuclear horror involved but nope! I also find it really interesting just overall how dysfunctional the simulation is- the men have to leave *their* ideal world every day to work and keep paying for it, so the only ones who get to ‘enjoy’ the simulation are the women, who don’t even want to be there in the first place. Ultimately it serves no one and makes no one happy.
I didnt remember the mastermind being a woman? Though admittedly the ending was so rushed that I left the theater feeling mixed. I reallllllllly wanted to like the movie, and even convinced myself that I did, but the more I think about it, the more confusing and disappointing it feels for many of the reasons you mentioned :(
@@thehillisalive so at the end, Frank’s wife stabs him and says “It’s my turn now” which at the time with her having been his like, accomplice basically all along made me think that it was revealing her as the mastermind behind the simulation the whole time? Or wanting to take over? But I’m trying to look through clips/articles rn and it doesn’t seem like there’s a clear consensus on it! But it’s been a long while since I saw the movie so my memories could be off, but that’s how I interpreted it when I first watched it. Edit: the ending is definitely rushed and confusing and I think that’s part of why I got confused over this, if I’m wrong in how I’m interpreting it. It felt really weird as if Shelley was actually… okay with? the simulation? Or something. Possibly they intended something along the lines of a ‘tradwife who upholds oppressive systems’ but it wasn’t explored deeply enough to make sense and have a clear message, it just confused it.
She was okay with it. I saw the ending more as how especially white women cause a lot of harm trying to cling to their second rung on the patriarchy ladder. The patriarchy was the cause of the simulation, and when we focus on power within the patriarchy rather than destroy the patriarchy as a system to live within,, we will always act accordingly, even if we’re women.
@@LilyLewis771 Yeah the ending was really weird, it's like they tried to put to much different thought into it. But the world does serve the men because in the real life Alice doesn't have time for her boyfriend but in the VR he is all she had, and that's what the guy wanted (I don't remember his name) but it was really badly constructed and confusing.
there’s also an intersection that doesn’t further the situation at hand, but is an interesting thing to think about. florence pugh was originally supposed to have a cameo in season one of ted lasso. it’s believed the episode was s1e2, “biscuits,” which was directed by zach braff, who was dating florence at the time. apple tv went ahead with the show in october of 2019. ted lasso’s first season aired on apple tv in august of 2020. now, it doesn’t add anything to the don’t worry darling situation. however, i can’t help but wonder what they may have talked about during that time, yanno?
I had a friend who was a massive Harry Styles fan. We used to mock him as he's a straight guy and it was so random as I don't think he was even into One Direction but in the end we just let him fanboy about Styles. He was crushed when his Styles concert was cancelled. He loved when Styles did the whale so much he would make everyone watch compilations. He was looking forward to his film and subjected the friend group to the trailer and everything. Then this drama came out and my friend just entirely peaced out of the whole fandom i dont think he has mentioned Styles since 😂😂😂
fr the whole amber heard situation still makes my head spin, public perception of women alleging abuse really did backslide 2020-now post-me too movement/time’s up, so upsetting to see and i hope amber’s recovery is going well, every time i see a johnny depp ad campaign i want to SCREAM
I watched about 80% of the trial live (yes, an insane amount of hours). The evidence against her was overwhelming. Narcissism, ASPD, abuse - all of that can be perpetuated by women too. Listen to the voice recordings where she literally says she’ll take him down, and confirms she was the one hitting him. I agree that TikTok is not the place to learn about this, as is true about extreme short form about so many important subjects. 🙏
@@alaia-awakened no one is saying women can’t perpetuate that but the evidence that supports the things she did also overwhelmingly supports the abuse he perpetuated against her. It’s so wild that you will literally block out testimonies and video evidence of him being super abusive against Amber, the bruises, the sexual abuse. Not to mention he sued her over an article that didn’t name him by name. Not surprised to see this weird ass comment from someone who follows “fired from the Daily wire for just asking questions” Klance Owens.
@alaia-awakened God bless you for this comment! For a moment, I thought I had slipped into a different dimension or something like that! People who claim that Amber was the victim either didn't watch the trial or they just decided to ignore all the evidence against her. To everyone who's claiming that he was just as abusive to her or even more, I wish they would show me some evidence and no, don't come with the pictures taken by TMZ (who were told where and when she would be and where exactly she would have a "bruise") showing a "bruise" that wasn't there the day before and that was mysteriously gone the day after...
This is my first visit to your channel and I am pleasantly suprised.... Not only did you wind through this story with cohesion and respect; you acknowledged the deeper issues with tact. You are the FIRST content creator I've come across who has acknowledged Amber Heard's documented abuse and that in and of itself speaks volumes. I truly enjoyed this video and look forward to exploring more❤
Extended clapping at the premiere of a film really happens, I’ve experienced it as an actor. The 5-10 minutes comes from clapping through the credits, generally speaking, for the director and cast in attendance in particular.
my APLang teacher taught us how to build arguements by making us debate if spitgate was real or not and i will never forget sitting in that class at like 7:45am learning of all of this for the first time LMAO
I remember hearing things about this even though I am not in that space at all and always just being so confused. I love how you explain the dichotomy of these situations.
*Before* Don't Worry Darling, I liked Olivia Wilde, Jason Sudeikis, Chris Pine, and Florence Pugh, and I felt neutral towards Harry Styles. *After* Don't Worry Darling, I like Chris Pine and Florence Pugh, and forget everyone else because YIKES.
_A little off-topic but..._ 48:00 I had to listen to it a few times to make sure I heard that correctly and that you weren't being sarcastic... Did you really say that she was sued by her _abuser_ as if _SHE_ was the victim? Didn't you watch the trial and all the lies that she told about him? Please don't tell me that you're on her side just because she's a woman...
CRAZY that you posted this when I finally watched this for the first time not even a week ago lmao. The troubled production was VERY evident in the final product.
The thing is, I genuinely believe Shia would have been a much better choice. You would so easily believe the switch from wonderful, caring guy to total psychopath. He's a great actor, and can play unhinged so well. Instead we got Harry Styles in a wig and we were supposed to believe now he's an incel? It just didn't work. Not to mention that boy can't act. It was criminal casting.
The most enduring memory to come out of this entire drama, was, for me, the SALAD DRESSING. Ohhh were we curious about the betrayal of the special salad dressing. My second most enduring memory was Flo SLAYING and FLAYING strutting in that perfectly aesthetic purple outfit with bright orange spritz while waving sassily. Like she was saying “HI MISS O!”
I never really get into drama, and it misses me all the time. But, I can always count on your videos to navigate me through, and there's no one else I'd rather have take me there--and truth be told, I wouldn't even care outside of these presentations. You should feel proud.
We're all talking about the It Ends With Us drama, but let's not forget the monarch of this. The start. Thank you for reminding us of THE main diva, Ashley.
Okay but also do an IEWU video too queen
I think people (I think mainly women audiences) so badly want any and all new films to have off screen drama like this movie had.
I don't think the It Ends With Us drama even compares to this. Like it's interesting, but this was at another level.
@@hair.goblinnnI think fans of the book (mainly woman) don't want any more drama around this story. 😭 We also don't want our CW stars feuding . I will say this movie had to have controversy and drama somewhere just based around all the controversy and drama that the book and the author has I just don't think anyone saw it coming from here. I don't know maybe you're right maybe the movie was true enough to the book for people's likings and was a pretty good movie so they found drama elsewhere I don't know but I know a lot of the book fans are like whyyyyyy lol
Omg whats the IEWU drama?? I'm chronically offline but nosy help
I think about Chris Pine, English Master's, Chris Pine, sitting next to "It feels like a movie" Harry Styles, every day
I've seldom seen the light go out in someone's eyes like it did in Chris'
@@koelkastridder3388And then the poor thing put his beautiful voice on a Disney feature film only for it to be the most disappointing and critically panned one in decades.
People make fun of that quote but I understand what he meant. Harry should’ve said “making a movie that feels truly/classically cinematic” or something of that like
People always cut off what Harry said half way through, the end of the comment was a go to the theatre movie, which is a perfectly reasonable comment to make when promoting your film in a world os streaming.Also to criticise someone for not being privileged enough to have had a university education when he was getting an education in the music industry from the age of 16 and earning millions before he was 20 seems a bit of a high horse.
@@koelkastridder3388the light was never in Chris Pine that day, he looked stoned the entire time and said later they were all jet lagged and joking about the promotional word salad they ALL contributed to. Also Styles was in the middle of 15 consecutive nights playing Madison square gardens and flew out to Venice before being back on stage the following night
you know my favourite thing about the movie is like it feels like a movie
And you’re so right
😂 These jokes will NEVER get old
I'm actually glad they toned down Jack's abusive character. I think it's scarier that he feels more like a regular guy than a monster. Rather than being a movie about an abusive relationship, it makes it more about how even the "nice guy" can refuse to see you as a person. It becomes a dissection of incel culture this way and I think it's one of the few things about the movie that really worked.
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YES! Jack’s character not being outwardly misogynistic and abusive was one of the movies’ strengths!
I think it also shows just how unexpected guys like this can be. They don't come out and explain all of their toxic views at first because they KNOW it would turn women away. So they play a long game.
@@MorganVsTheInternethe IS outwardly misogynistic and abusive. he traps her in a house, gaslights her and tries to medicate her against her will. and that’s before the big reveal!
I think you needed more of Jack in the real world to explain how their relationship started and why Alice was still putting up with him
Chris Pine and Florence Pugh were the only ones that wanted to work and got sucked into all the drama 😭
berries and cream???? omg
I'd argue Gemma Chan wanted to, but was just given nothing to do and Olivia did not deserve her (or Florence or Chris)
I love the picture of Florence Pugh having to take over direction because Olivia and Harry were screwing in the broom closet. I can almost believe it, it’s just a little too delicious for it to be the truth. That was probably a nightmare job for the poor crew, or a very entertaining one. It’s hard to say.
My mother was served divorce papers on Christmas Eve. My dad didn’t tell anyone in the family it was happening, so it was a complete surprise to everyone. He told the guy serving the papers not to serve them to her at work, because he didn’t want to embarrass her. Apparently the guy kept missing her when he tried to serve her. So he ended up at the house on Christmas Eve, serving my mom divorce papers. Merry Christmas.
I'm so sorry.
@@laurawhittenburg it’s ok! I’m all grown up now. I was just sharing another… awkward paper serving story.
Boohoo
Was your father not spending Christmas with you guys that year? How awful
Was he dressed as Santa?
I will be honest. I forgot Ted Lasso was Jason Sudeikis. I had the exact opposite problem from his fanbase. Literally you put a mustache on that man and I'm like "Oh yeah Coach Ted." Then you remove that mustache and I'm like "yes that's comedic actor Jason Sudeikis." They are literally two different people to me 😭
perry the platypus must rly have you confused lol
Same
@@cadavercounty unreasonably funny reply
exactly 1 has a very strong accent, a mustache and I love him the other is a rich man who I don’t know
@@rocketpalm7320 man I've been trying to think of a response for 2 days now and I got nothing. They killed me where I stood
Harry has never embodied the "disengaged popular douche" persona more than he did during this whole ordeal.
Best role he’s ever played tbh
speaking as someone who was an olivia wilde fan, a jason sudeikis fan, a harry styles fan AND a florence pugh fan prior to don't worry darling, to say it was a battlefield does not cut it. i genuinely was losing my mind trying to have a normal conversation about the film on the internet.
Oh my god. I was a Florence Pugh and Chris Pine fan, and had liked Olivia Wilde's and Gemma Chan's previous stuff, so I really got the best view.
Good lord I can't imagine the trenches that were dug
Funnily enough, this is the movie that got me from work friend to actual friend status. I don’t really watch movies in theaters, but a coworker of mine really likes Harry styles so we went to go see it together and solidified our friendship. None of us have been at that job for over a year at this point, but we talk daily and now play D&D together so. Thank you don’t worry darling?💀
Good 😊 happy for both of you!
The good ending
It truly was the friends we made along the way 🥹😌
That’s wonderful! I’m so glad for you!
ugh its so difficult to be able to make that switch. happy for you both! hope it continues for many years.
Chris Pine cracking up reading the memes was golden! My favorite part of this video.
Bombas ACTUALLY donates the socks too (and crazy amounts of them!) Our local shower truck received a huge donation from the company and I have first hand seen the good they’ve done in my community. I love this sponsorship! ❤
I was looking into buying them but they don't ship outside of the US 😔
I've heard from people who've received them in shelters that they aren't very good socks.
@@hospitable_ghost in my experience the ones we received are the same as the ones sold in store, that is to say very high quality. I am not an athletic tight sock type person but they have been very popular. I have received them in several roles; at the college student support closet, for our foster youth, and now for my unhoused behavioral health clients.
@@hospitable_ghostthey sponsor RUclipsrs. That’s never a good sign.
@@hospitable_ghost I can't speak as someone who is unhoused, so I can't say what unique conditions might make them bad socks for those receiving them in shelters. but I have received many pairs and they are some of the most comfortable and durable socks I have (caveat tho that I am not on my feet as much as others might be due to my disability). the only thing i personally notice is they might indent your skin and cause potential irritation in the arch and ankle depending on the size/length you wear them/your sensitivity level (though id argue thats kinda a sock issue period and compression socks will do that by design, speaking as someone who wears them for health reasons). otherwise though, idk much about their company practices. underwear wasn't my size so idk how those are. and the tshirts are made out of a nice, comfortable material (not sure if they're a poly blend but they feel mostly cotton to me).
Ashley 100% has more legal knowledge than I do, but I do have to say that my mom had to hire a process server to notify my dad of her filing for divorce and specifically said “Do not do it at the house because my kids will be there” and the guy quite literally knocked on our door when I (at age 13) was home alone the next day. So they may not take their client’s directions into account all that much.
I'm so sorry that happened to you.
I'm so sorry that happened to you. And you're right, very possible this person went rogue
@@ashleynorton Not actually very possible considering the process server had no way of getting into Cinemacon unless someone pulled strings, and they skipped COVID protocols AND had to buy a $1.000 ticket, not knowing if they'd be reimbursed. It's preposterous to believe they did that without the explicit consent by Jason.
@@ANNEMARIE.K236 Nailed it. I'll probably never look at him the same way again. Another disappointing WM.
My dad used to say process servers and bounty hunter were one in the same. Just get the job done any cost.
Thank you once again Ashley, forever grateful to be apart of the class
It's the one class I never fake sick for
Apart or a part?
@@hughtube5154 both
The ‘10 minute standing ovation’ things are real 😭 I took a film class and I guess it’s like they have individual actors & crew stand up and the clapping ranges in volume during the ovation.
Okay that at least makes more sense than what I was imagining: just clapping at a black screen for a while
@@ashleynortonnever underestimate how the film industry enjoys a good clap.
the fact that he had a history of abusive behavior towards his partner already and Olivia was comfortable having him in this role shows she was never the right woman for this movie. I'm so sad because I love the concept of this movie having grown up on The Stepford Wives. I think it could have been a huge hit and created much needed discussions around Incel culture and consent in the right hands.
Not really, when The Stepford Wives is already a classic.
completely agree because the concept was there in the movie but weren’t fully realized which sucks
Wait genuine question you are talking about Shia right?
@@morgc6744 yes!
The thing that bothered me about the Jason/Olivia split, is that he was also dating someone in 2020/2021. She didn’t leave him for Harry, and he started seeing someone else, too.
AIR IT OUT 🗣️🗣️🗣️
The victim narrative & misogyny from him is so boring.
and the gossip is that he cheated on her a lot
So it was more of a living separate lives under one roof situation? That changes the narrative a lot and must have been hard for those poor kids.
She did leave him for Harry. She did cheat on him with Harry. She and her team have put a lot of work into changing the timeline and narrative to repair her image, but the facts remain.
I’ll never understand a love that requires other people….
it sucks cause this movie really had the ability to be a hit. despite harry's bad acting, the scene where they're arguing about how alice hated her life in the real world and she says "it was my life" was genuinely great (mostly just because of florence) and proved that this movie was on the cusp of making a real statement about independence and feminine autonomy but fell flat in the end
You're right, they should do a "Disaster Artist"-type movie about the making of "Don't Worry, Darling."
I’d watch it!
Not mentioning Olivia’s iconic Twitter nod gif is BLASPHEMY
Head over to Mike's Mic, he cannot stop re-enacting it at random points in unrelated recap & commentary videos
@@lupakajsalisa3652 I love Mike’s Mic!!
@lupakajsalisa3652 was just gonna say this 😭 I started doing it too subconsciously just in my daily life because of him and my friends do not get the reference LMAO
Hiding here amongst the Mike's Mic supporters while I avoid the second hand embarrassment of Ms. Wilde being served
@@Ellie60091 Wow, look how we all found eachother 🥹 How'd you find him? For me it was because I was re-reading all of the Pretty Little Liars books
This is so fitting rn when I’m seeing people compare alleged drama from It Ends With Us to this 😭😭
I'm so glad Ashley did this because every video I watched mentioned this movie's drama and I had no idea about it! This was a freakin rollercoaster!!
I know right
Omg I'm so stoned and couldn't find a video I wanted to watch and then this popped up, thank you kindly friend
There's no such thing as a unique human experience is there haha bc same
lmao i hope you have blessed day fellow students
brooo me always hahahaha
Relatables!
Literally same
I’m glad u took the bombas sponsor, they stick to their word. When I was staying in a couple of homeless shelters I’d be given lots of Bombas socks and they were so comfortable. 😭🤣
Hope you're housed in a place that feels like home now + life is better for you. Rooting for you to thrive!
Thank you for reminding of “I’m finna be in the pit” girl you’re a marvel and a scholar
the way this drama lived in my head RENT FREE for like a month and then i totally forgot about it until now 💔
It's absolutely wild to me that Shia's apology - while being a country mile away from acceptable and truly accountable - isn't remotely the worst response to accusations of abuse I've ever read.
I completely disagree, there is literally no way to do what you mentioned, you cannot take accountability in an apology.
Actions prove the meaning of the words
At least he didn't pull out a ukulele (yes the bar is that low).
You should check out his conversation with Jon Bernthal, he talks all about it and his remorse and how he will spend the rest of his life making amends. It is a really great interview.
@@PropheticShadeZ Okay, two questions:
1) Did you think I said Shia took accountability with his apology? If so, please re-read what I said. If your contention is that I implied you *can* take accountability with a public apology, then again, you have inferred something which I haven't implied.
2) If that's your true contention, then what is the workable response to your own public wrongdoing? Entering spaces where you can atone for your past sins requires you to enter spaces with people you might have wronged in the past, or who would feel insecure at your unannounced presence. If you can only atone by *doing* then something must first signal your intent to do so, no? A public apology, taking accountability would surely highlight your intent to do more work in the space to rectify the damage you've done, would be the preferable route, I think.
Anything else is a vengeful desire to see people cast into the sun for fucking up. And I can tell you: our current *justice* system proves that that method doesn't work. If you're only treated like a pariah for wrongdoing, you never want to get better, because you're always that outsider.
@@royalxprincessbaka6875 Fully agreed. The bar is in hell, and like I said: I don't think it remotely comes close to making up for his harm, but it's a very astute apology.
Spitgate is so silly because that was settled less than a week after the “drama” started, just nobody listened to him
hey ashley don’t forget about our class homework assignment! it seems it may have slipped your mind to collect it, but don’t worry fellow students i reminded her :)
How dare you
UGHHH😑😑 ur the worsst
Ugh GOD. This is why nobody wants to sit next to you
Wow, there is just always that one kid isn't there
i actually did the assignment this time so thank you for reminding her
Oh, what I'd give to get absolutely piss-drunk with Miss Flo while she tells me all the hot-gos about this trainwreck of a movie
"Bad Cinderella's Emerald Fennell" 😭😭
I cannot stress how much anxiety I have thinking about the media coverage of FKA Twigs suing her abuser. I am not ready for it. And I can't imagine how scary it must be for any women to try to seek justice in this climate.
The media is one thing, but Shia himself is another. In his interview with Jon Bernthal, he takes full accountability for his actions and talks about how he will be making amends for the rest of his life for his a**hole past.
off topic, but there's something so wild about actual cannibal shia labeouf being the sole legacy of rob cantor for a large amount of people, and tally hall not being a part of it AT ALL 😭
He did a lot of music for the disney channel show "the ghost and molly mcgee" recently! I was watching it with my kid and saw his name in the credits and just sat there pointing at the screen with excitement
@@mhauser255 yeah, there's so much i could mention. i was thinking about including that he's doing stuff for disney, and the song he did for that intel ad campaign in my original comment. not to mention the other viral videos he made, because i'm pretty sure the other thing he's known for if you don't mention tally hall is that one impressions video
Tally Hall is everything
ngl i forgot this movie existed and idgaf abt it but i'll happily watch an almost hour long video abt it. thank you ashley
As someone who had to suffer through my parents fighting hearing that Jason tried to stop oliva from leaving and laid in front of the car legit make me have flashbacks bruh
Considering Jason was talking about Olivia "leaving him with their kids," they probably had this awful argument while they were in the house. :(
absolutely require your take on the whole It Ends With Us movie debacle once the dust settles!
Whatever the intent of method acting at the start it very quickly became an excuse for mostly male actors to act like assholes on set and any actor who uses it seems less talented in my eye.
The nuanced and empathetic takes here are why you’re one of my favs ❤️ so glad you rehashed this!!!
that cannibal shia labeuf song is a BANGER and i won't hear otherwise
Spitgate still haunts me
i swear this channel always uploads something right when im about to sit down and paint war dollies. its perfect.
Same!!! Idk what war dollies are tho but I am doing some graphic design and this is perfection
@@comfort-and-joy lol just a funny way to say Warhammer minis. They take hours to paint so video essays like this make the process much more tolerable
Username checks out
My brother used to paint warhammer figures when he was in school, do you make the environment also? That always seemed like the most appealing part to me, make a little world with whatever you want in it, you can specifically plan a valley and a hill with bushes to stage an ambush! The only downside is you have to use so much synthetic foam that both sounds awful to cut through and creates unrecyclable microplastics everywhere :/
@@lupakajsalisa3652 so I've done some super simple terrain crafting but nothing major. Mostly just making ruined buildings to act as basic terrain when playing with friends. Take a cardboard box, cut some jagged edges, use the corner of the box as a ruined building. Can hot glue some pieces of cardboard to create different floors and cut windows from the walls. Cover the whole thing in spackle and grey spray paint, maybe age it a bit. Can have enough pieces to cover a play board in just a couple hours and for a fraction of the cost of "real" terrain
it's wild how Olivia Wilde tried to get behind the drama by saying she wouldn't work with an a******** (Shia Labeouf) and then he exposed her and said *he* left the project, and posted the proof in which she seemingly shades Florence Pugh, and begs him to stay on the project. Shia is a bad dude (justice for FKA Twigs!) but that also made Olivia look so untrustworthy...not to mention the weirdness of sleeping with Harry. I feel bad for Chris and Florence. or "MISS FLO" as Olivia put it. *Edit: I believe the way Ashley describes the situation in this video is nuanced and measured, much more than my original comment implies.
Harry wasn't her co-star and Ashely touched on this and it's more nuanced than how you represent it.
@@ANNEMARIE.K236 I agree and have edited the comment
@@ANNEMARIE.K236wdym? Olivia was literally in the movie. She played Bunny. That makes her Harry’s co-star.
Can somebody explain to me what's so bad about nicknaming her Miss Flo? I don't know this person and it seems like just a familiar nickname.
@@covereye5731 it's definitely derogatory and belittling. I believe the stylist instagram post referenced it... When she didn't show up at the press event..the caption refered to "Miss Flo"
"any spit was spat" is making its way into all of my end of year cards. There are a LOT of gems in the script but this one made me pause the video to type this comment AND immediately figure out how to include it in a thank you note to my boss. May we all live well, in spit and spat.
Kinda crazy how people were so upset with Ariana Grande a few months ago for being a homewrecker yet when Harry Styles was in a similar situation Olivia Wide was the one people were upset with. Just interesting and I’m sure this says nothing about society as a whole…
crazy as ethan slater literally left his wife and baby for her... women are blamed for everything
The majority of harry fans are women though? And I think it definitely depends on your algorithm, mine was full of Ethan haters
@@riahw3750noone said only men hate on women. if women weren't perpetuating misogyny, it wouldn't be as big of a problem
I mean I definitely have seen the internet drag Ethan Slater several times. In fact I would argue he gets it as much as Ariana except it's easier with her because she was actually famous and she made follow up responses by her music. So of course she will definitely get it more.
Idk I think this paints all of them in a bad light. Except for Chris and Florence.
@@beepboop815idk what u on about, the whole internet was calling him ugly in every possible way he was getting dragged left n right and she got hate because she had a pattern of this behaviour. Lets not change history lol
Thanks for making the link between Olivia and Harry's situation and Ariana and Ethan's. Though we don't know the full story, it's conceivable that Harry played the same role Ariana did - they both started something with a married coworker who had children. Yet, in both these scenarios, it's the woman who got the short end of the stick. Funny how that works. Nobody called Harry the homewrecker, nobody tried to sabotage him, people were actually blaming Olivia (and rightly so, I mean if anything, she's the one who cheated). Yet, when it's Ariana who's in Harry's position, nobody cares about the guy who left his wife and a child - people are dragging Ariana through the mud and putting the blame entirely on her. The two situations are almost identical, except with reversed genders. Funny how in both, it's the woman who faced most of the backlash.
He didn’t. Jason cheated on Olivia as well. Lily didn’t do this to Ethan.
This drama was my entire feed when the movie released
While the petty drama of it all was so entertaining to follow along, this whole drama was yet another reminder that women are always, ALWAYS going to be blamed for EVERYTHING!! It was so infuriating seeing mostly other girls and women tearing down Olivia for being in a relationship with everyone's favourite, pure little innocent white boy, Harry Styles.
I mean, Olivia was being rather unprofessional dating an actor she was directing and seemingly not being very present on set, but the vitriol spewed against her, from calling her a groomer to criticising her every move was disgusting and opened my eyes to all the internalized misogyny present to this day.
I literally knew so little about this drama that when Olivia Wilde showed up on screen I screamed THIRTEEN???? Bc House MD was a banger show
that’s the main thing i know her for
I’m literally in the middle of a rewatch of House MD right now LMAO so I had the same reaction
I've been feeling this way about all this and the Amber Heard horror show and honestly it feels so nice to have someone else say these things publicly bc I felt like I was getting gaslit by all of TikTok
In the case of Johnny, you were literally being gaslit. Half of the support for him was through bots and he’s best friends with the Saudi prince known for 💀 reporters. I suspect I know who bought those bots for him.
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Serving her while she was on stage infront of all those people is crazy
I never realized she was somewhere you have to buy a ticket. Likes thats genuinely deranged@@lovelove-55s
I had whiplash when she mentioned the amber heard situation because what i took away from the case was that they were both abusive to each other. I mean this genuinely. Is there a video i can watch that gives another perspective?
I still find it hard to understand how the internet made Olivia the villain in this whole situation and ignored Shia?
LITERALLY like the ABUSERR?!?!?!?
a mommy dearest style biopic about all the behind the scenes drama pls
Hobama is my favorite thing on the internet right now so thank you for the lil reference
“Thank you miss Ashley!” we all say in unison
I appreciate the nuance of Ashley's analysis, as always. I especially appreciated the background about process serving.
Personally, though, I don’t think Wilde's video could be reasonably interpreted as a subtle firing of LaBoeuf. It's a valid consideration how (often) women operate differently to placate violent men in their workplace. But in my opinion, Wilde's slip of "Miss Flo" tells me: she was trying to play both sides to make her movie. Her disrespect of Pugh seems too flagrant not to be sincere, and I think Pugh's response supports this interpretation.
Yeah it makes me think less of someone if you disrespect one to add support to another
I'm so glad you brought up the standing ovation thing at film festivals because it's always been incomprehensible to me but also something I can absolutely see film bros doing 😂😂
45:07 “The night she left with her salad” made me laugh out loud
Edit: 45:34 “Took her salad, and dressing and left them”
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thank you for this, i tried to get a bigger explaination about happened at the time but the only response i got was "look it up sweaty"😭
I still don't understand what Harry's motive would be for spitting on Chris Pine. It sounds like Jason Sudeikis is the one we should metaphorically spit on in this situation!
yeah i think chris was just reacting to the awkward situation (sitting between two people who are dating and maybe having a weird time)
While I do think Olivia should be criticized. No one can convince me that the level of hate she got wasn’t because Harry styles fans hated him with an older woman. Especially one that wasn’t very likable. They couldn’t wait to have a reason to hate her. They blamed her for everything. I don’t even see that much hate for the actual abuser (Shia).
women are disproportionaly hated for dumb things.
It’s also the Larries being mad Harry isn’t with Louis publicly, I think Larry isn’t real but that would get me killed if Larries saw this.
This. Absolutely
Hearing this all in a timeline definitely made me realize how serious a lot of it was, and how despite like u said being a perpetrator herself, Olivia Wilde was absolutely villainized to a point where none of the men were at all. Jason sudekis behavior especially is rly sickening and it's crazy how male comedians get away with so much horrible shit ?? Just bc they're known for being funny??
"discussion of domestic violence" and "spoilers for don't worry darling". Equal and equivalent trauma triggers
Every few months I remember “Don’t Worry Darling”’s spitgate and giggle
ashley thank you for doing this. at one point i knew most of the lore but that time is long gone and i needed a refresher 😭
Five minutes clapping is SO LONG. Even giving my (extremely talented) niece’s high school theatre productions’ (and the school puts on *incredible* shows) standing ovations don’t get more than a minute from me.
i survived the don’t worry darling spit gate
haven’t watched the full video yet but i want to make one statement: Harry Styles did fucking spit on Chris Pine and i will NOT be hearing any comments to the contrary idc idc
How did i not know this omg
I feel Ashley is too morally upstanding to speculate without evidence on WHY STYLES WOULD SPIT ON PINE. But I'm petty, so I'm desperate to know the leading theories. 😂
I think he did but it was an accident like he sprayed him not full on spat tho
when i tell you my senior year theology teacher was pausing class to talk about the don't worry darling production drama
I don’t understand the Harry and Olivia were a PR relationship angle. Did anyone come away with a higher opinion of either Harry or Olivia? Im not saying either of them are awful people, but they came out of it looking messy. “Harry, date this woman who has just left a long relationship with the father of her 2 young children and we’ll leak stories about how you 2 were screwing each other so much on set it pissed off your co star”. - Harry’s PR team apparently.
I thought PR was meant to make celebs seem more refined and family friendly.
people throw around PR Relationship like it doesn't have an actual purpose. the only celebrity relationship rn I can think of that's been beneficial to both parties is Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce. her choosing an All American Football Man basically erased the bad publicity she got when she was with Matty Healy. Kelce has gotten so much more famous than he ever would have before.
not saying they're PR, just that if there was ever a case study of "How To Make Yourself More Popular Through Dating Someone", they'd be a perfect example of everything lining up to fix her PR, and skyrocket his TV/Movie career.
i was foaming at the mouth for more content praying that someday you’ll bring back bachelor recaps
We really need to support FKA Twigs through this upcoming trial! Cant imagine what she went through and what she is still dealing with
42:10 The standing ovations are similar to clapping for theater actors or the orchestra. The cast, director, and staff are there so people applaud to show their appreciation of their artistry
A really good video, Ashley! Thank you for making this!
p.s. I'm so grateful to you for the last 5 minutes of the video! Thank you. It's amazing to find a person who have individual opinion about Depp and Amber Heard situation. You really brave to speak it out loud! ❤
great video as always. I really appreciate your nuanced take on what's clearly a complicated situation (referring to both Shia's casting and Olivia's relationship with Jason). it's pretty rare to find videos of this caliber that present such balanced and thoughtful perspectives. so thank you for that! it's always a great day when Ashley Norton uploads :)
Truly, what I need to listen to while I re-download all of my Sims 4 CC lashes because they all broke and need redownload them all
Florence Pugh's purple outfit during that time was so iconic! She's still just such a classy, stylish person and I ❤her
I think about this movie a lot!! I had no idea about the drama lol. I think it’s so good but I hate that at the end it’s revealed the mastermind was a woman all along?? Like I think it’s a great criticism of the ‘make America great again’ and incels wanting to put women back in the kitchen, etc. by showing how awful and suffocating and trapped it makes the women feel. And then that reveal just completely undermines the message :/
The simulation twist also got me, I was expecting it to lead into a reveal that they were working on the Manhattan project and there was going to be nuclear horror involved but nope!
I also find it really interesting just overall how dysfunctional the simulation is- the men have to leave *their* ideal world every day to work and keep paying for it, so the only ones who get to ‘enjoy’ the simulation are the women, who don’t even want to be there in the first place. Ultimately it serves no one and makes no one happy.
I didnt remember the mastermind being a woman? Though admittedly the ending was so rushed that I left the theater feeling mixed. I reallllllllly wanted to like the movie, and even convinced myself that I did, but the more I think about it, the more confusing and disappointing it feels for many of the reasons you mentioned :(
@@thehillisalive so at the end, Frank’s wife stabs him and says “It’s my turn now” which at the time with her having been his like, accomplice basically all along made me think that it was revealing her as the mastermind behind the simulation the whole time? Or wanting to take over? But I’m trying to look through clips/articles rn and it doesn’t seem like there’s a clear consensus on it! But it’s been a long while since I saw the movie so my memories could be off, but that’s how I interpreted it when I first watched it.
Edit: the ending is definitely rushed and confusing and I think that’s part of why I got confused over this, if I’m wrong in how I’m interpreting it. It felt really weird as if Shelley was actually… okay with? the simulation? Or something. Possibly they intended something along the lines of a ‘tradwife who upholds oppressive systems’ but it wasn’t explored deeply enough to make sense and have a clear message, it just confused it.
She was okay with it. I saw the ending more as how especially white women cause a lot of harm trying to cling to their second rung on the patriarchy ladder. The patriarchy was the cause of the simulation, and when we focus on power within the patriarchy rather than destroy the patriarchy as a system to live within,, we will always act accordingly, even if we’re women.
@@LilyLewis771 Yeah the ending was really weird, it's like they tried to put to much different thought into it. But the world does serve the men because in the real life Alice doesn't have time for her boyfriend but in the VR he is all she had, and that's what the guy wanted (I don't remember his name) but it was really badly constructed and confusing.
@LilyLewis771 yeah, her line made 0 sense. Her turn to...what?
“Bad Cinderella’s emerald fennell” is so good 😭😭😭
Ive been praying for a deep dive of this drama for years thank you Ashley
Ponyo avi! ♡
there’s also an intersection that doesn’t further the situation at hand, but is an interesting thing to think about.
florence pugh was originally supposed to have a cameo in season one of ted lasso. it’s believed the episode was s1e2, “biscuits,” which was directed by zach braff, who was dating florence at the time.
apple tv went ahead with the show in october of 2019. ted lasso’s first season aired on apple tv in august of 2020.
now, it doesn’t add anything to the don’t worry darling situation. however, i can’t help but wonder what they may have talked about during that time, yanno?
I had a friend who was a massive Harry Styles fan. We used to mock him as he's a straight guy and it was so random as I don't think he was even into One Direction but in the end we just let him fanboy about Styles. He was crushed when his Styles concert was cancelled. He loved when Styles did the whale so much he would make everyone watch compilations. He was looking forward to his film and subjected the friend group to the trailer and everything. Then this drama came out and my friend just entirely peaced out of the whole fandom i dont think he has mentioned Styles since 😂😂😂
I mean, this didn't happen. Harry had never canceled a concert before this happened.
@@ANNEMARIE.K236during the pandemic they did
Jump scare when you said this came out in 2022 omg it felt like yesterday when all of this was happening
My best friend and I regularly remember this mess at random times when we are catching up with each other - I’m so ready for class!
fr the whole amber heard situation still makes my head spin, public perception of women alleging abuse really did backslide 2020-now post-me too movement/time’s up, so upsetting to see and i hope amber’s recovery is going well, every time i see a johnny depp ad campaign i want to SCREAM
I watched about 80% of the trial live (yes, an insane amount of hours). The evidence against her was overwhelming. Narcissism, ASPD, abuse - all of that can be perpetuated by women too. Listen to the voice recordings where she literally says she’ll take him down, and confirms she was the one hitting him. I agree that TikTok is not the place to learn about this, as is true about extreme short form about so many important subjects. 🙏
@@alaia-awakened no one is saying women can’t perpetuate that but the evidence that supports the things she did also overwhelmingly supports the abuse he perpetuated against her. It’s so wild that you will literally block out testimonies and video evidence of him being super abusive against Amber, the bruises, the sexual abuse. Not to mention he sued her over an article that didn’t name him by name. Not surprised to see this weird ass comment from someone who follows “fired from the Daily wire for just asking questions” Klance Owens.
@alaia-awakened God bless you for this comment! For a moment, I thought I had slipped into a different dimension or something like that!
People who claim that Amber was the victim either didn't watch the trial or they just decided to ignore all the evidence against her. To everyone who's claiming that he was just as abusive to her or even more, I wish they would show me some evidence and no, don't come with the pictures taken by TMZ (who were told where and when she would be and where exactly she would have a "bruise") showing a "bruise" that wasn't there the day before and that was mysteriously gone the day after...
can’t wait for the It End With Us video next year
Weaponizing process servers to harass/humiliate ex partners is such recognizably abusive behavior. It’s intentional cruelty for its own sake.
You do such a fantastic job story telling and piecing so many various things together into one cohesive story line!
This is my first visit to your channel and I am pleasantly suprised....
Not only did you wind through this story with cohesion and respect; you acknowledged the deeper issues with tact. You are the FIRST content creator I've come across who has acknowledged Amber Heard's documented abuse and that in and of itself speaks volumes. I truly enjoyed this video and look forward to exploring more❤
Extended clapping at the premiere of a film really happens, I’ve experienced it as an actor. The 5-10 minutes comes from clapping through the credits, generally speaking, for the director and cast in attendance in particular.
To be fair, the credits of DWD are short, so if they clapped through the credits, it would be through all or most of the credits
my APLang teacher taught us how to build arguements by making us debate if spitgate was real or not and i will never forget sitting in that class at like 7:45am learning of all of this for the first time LMAO
OMG thanks so much for this video. These were my thoughts exactly. Olivia really didn't deserve the absolute annihilation of her reputation.
The amount of respect that I have for Ashley Norton is immeasurable.
I remember hearing things about this even though I am not in that space at all and always just being so confused. I love how you explain the dichotomy of these situations.
when the hangout got my favorite comfort creator
I am stuck in the hospital for a few weeks. I’ve been binging your videos and you uploaded a new one today, I’m so grateful 💕
*Before* Don't Worry Darling, I liked Olivia Wilde, Jason Sudeikis, Chris Pine, and Florence Pugh, and I felt neutral towards Harry Styles. *After* Don't Worry Darling, I like Chris Pine and Florence Pugh, and forget everyone else because YIKES.
_A little off-topic but..._
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I had to listen to it a few times to make sure I heard that correctly and that you weren't being sarcastic...
Did you really say that she was sued by her _abuser_ as if _SHE_ was the victim?
Didn't you watch the trial and all the lies that she told about him?
Please don't tell me that you're on her side just because she's a woman...
You’ve not read the uk trial then
CRAZY that you posted this when I finally watched this for the first time not even a week ago lmao. The troubled production was VERY evident in the final product.
The thing is, I genuinely believe Shia would have been a much better choice. You would so easily believe the switch from wonderful, caring guy to total psychopath. He's a great actor, and can play unhinged so well. Instead we got Harry Styles in a wig and we were supposed to believe now he's an incel? It just didn't work. Not to mention that boy can't act. It was criminal casting.
The most enduring memory to come out of this entire drama, was, for me, the SALAD DRESSING. Ohhh were we curious about the betrayal of the special salad dressing.
My second most enduring memory was Flo SLAYING and FLAYING strutting in that perfectly aesthetic purple outfit with bright orange spritz while waving sassily. Like she was saying “HI MISS O!”
Ughhh you pick the best topics!! I did not see this movie and never really wanted to. But I paid attention to all of this drama lol.
I never really get into drama, and it misses me all the time. But, I can always count on your videos to navigate me through, and there's no one else I'd rather have take me there--and truth be told, I wouldn't even care outside of these presentations. You should feel proud.