Yes yes!! We know what we have to do, we have the studies, the real science, the soil analysis. Biodiversity, regenerative farming practices. But look at our captured and corrupt gov.-agencies throwing Amish-farmers in jail. We are living in a time of great importance. If we do not react, defend our way of life, they will destroy it and destroy humans capacity to thrive and stay healthy, strong. It looks like this is their plan. We must all stand together. We are many, they are few. The power is with the poeple, but hopefully not with those brainwashed into believing the propaganda spewing out of the puppetmaster‘s mouths. Do your research people, the facts are crystal clear.
Root vegetables, grains, beans....food for slaves and during times of starvation. Throughout history, slaves were always fed cheap grains and beans, zero meat and eggs.
@@Barbara-oe7yhActually yes, they want us sick, tired and weak with foggy brains & poor memory... Easier to control the population then! Read the book, THE GREAT RESET, which is being implemented NOW! (2030 target date) or listen to the speeches made in Davos!!! They are evil emperors & in their own minds, they are superior to us peons... The SUGAR & GRAIN INDUSTRIES were behind the Fat is bad motto they imposed on us! They replaced good whole foods with Low Fat & added sugars and filler grains! The same as used to fatten livestock!!! Our whole society became FAT & sick with Metabolic Syndrome & Diabetes!😢 The SAD diet is killing us and the Food Pyramid has been upside down for decades! They don't care about our health, obviously 🙄 look what they did to us during the Covid Plandemic... Restricted our remedies, drs couldnt even talk about it & lied about it being paid for & produced in Wuhan by US, NIH & Fauci funding Gain of Function Research! Obama moved it to China as we made it illegal to do here!The. forced us to take an experimental DNA antagonist when all we needed was a safe dose of Hydroxychloraquine!🤬 Since going Keto/Carnivore I have a lot more energy and much less chronic pain from a bad accident! I actually got my youth and LIFE back! Hallelujah! 🎉😂
Middle class and lower class food was grain tuber beans some milk and egg for centuries .. hardworking and active .. while meat fish eating clergy and elite were plump and lethargic 🍁
What drives me mad is that carbon emissions are the only environmental contributer counted - what about pesticide, herbicide, fertilizers, soil depletion, etc.. industrial farming (all kinds) are highly destructive
What’s weird is that people like you try to turn the tables by saying, “Plant agriculture is worse,” when animal farming is of course a huge source source of plant agriculture. If you think that crop production is so bad then you should stop eating farmed meat.
Thank you for this. I came from 14 yrs of plant based, and ended up carnivore. That initial feeling good on plant based, was from cutting out junk, I believe. Over the years I got worse and worse. And now, slowly but surely, I am getting better.
I bought into it in the 70s, my health declined so that I had to eat meat again in the mid 80s to stay out of the hospital. Yet I STILL believed that saturated fat was bad and that red meat caused cancer. Talk about cognitive dissonance 😵💫
I admit to falling for the con around 8 years ago. I read the China Study, listened to Neil B etc and was convinced because it sounded good and I didn't verify their 'facts'. I thought I felt better for the first few months but I now know it was from eliminating seed oils combined with a placebo effect because I remember my increasing bowel issues, gas and bloating, arthritis, hair loss and brain fog etc. Fast forward to today and I'm now almost 5 years carnivore and absolutely thriving!
I went down the same rabbit hole as you , it took me longer to get to carnivore started in February this year. But its cleared up so many problems I was having which I thought was age related but turned out not. Congratulations on nearly reaching 5 years carnivore.
8:30 Yes, I also thought plant based was healthiest so when I stopped smoking and ate plants for 2 years, I was very surprised when ended up almost having surgery to fix chronic health problems. Luckily I found carnivore late 2018 and now all of my health problems are gone with no doctors help and I still eat a carnivore diet :)
As for SDA saying the only way to Heaven is through eating plants……. Maybe they missed Genesis 9 where The Lord tells Noah from now on in ADDITION to the herbs and plants you are eating you will eat animals for food. Also salvation is ONLY through Jesus period (John 14:6).
Or Leviticus 11, where is specifically says "You may eat any animal that has a divided hoof and that chews the cud.". doesn't get any more clear than that...
Yes God’s word is clear, even Paul says in the latter days(Where we are now) there will be people who tell us to abstain from certain foods and that everything is good when God blesses it and sanctifies it.
Adventists do you eat meat They do not believe you don’t go to heaven if you do eat meat this is not true. Jesus said you were not defiled by what goes into your mouth, but what comes out of it?
There are many healthy centurion vegetarians. Also, human lives have been shortened, from almost 1000 years before the flood to less than 100 or slightly more since meat was introduced to the diet. Keeping the diet simple, and not eating all the processed food, helps to keep one healthier. But please don’t lump All vegetarians or vegans the same or uninformed. They are not. Oh, and by the way, I have not heard or known “SDAs who believe only vegetarians go to heaven”. One is saved according to his relationship with God.
Just recovering from a bad case of food poisoning from little gem lettuce. Not the steak, but the lettuce. My daughter only ate steak she was fine. Her friends and I also ate the salad and we got stomach cramps, diarrhoea, cold sweats, really unwell for a day.
Great conversation 👌 and I love that youre acknowledging the propaganda against meat. We need to be aware of it because they want to restrict our access
Stopped eating most fruits and vegs. And i ate a lot. Histamine intolarance. I was poisening myself for decades thinking it was healthy. So many symptoms i had. 😂😂 Feel better than ever after two months.
How did you deal with your histamine intolerance? I’m dealing with that now after 40 years whole food plant based, now carnivore for 5 months and feeling much better
There are RUclips videos on pastured raised chickens and eggs and they demonstrated a fascinating method where there are trackers that move giant hen houses around the pasture. The land is fertilized, and the chickens have the opportunity to eat bugs which increases the nutritional value of both eggs and chicken
Just because someone failed to do the plant based diet the right way, there's no need to trash it. For someone who's been whole food plant based for almost a decade, my only regret that I haven't started it earlier.
I know it makes women feel better that they can say well we're all different, the fact of the matter is, we're the same species and we have a correct diet and a plant based diet is not that. Being able to eat things without getting super sick or dying from it is, different than thriving.
Thank you both so much for your work!! I have RUclips channel on sustainability and plan to teach the FACT that plant-based is terrible for the environment. I don’t have a lot of time to work on my channel right now so have taken a step back from it but I’m working on it a LOT behind the scenes and will go full force once I retire in about 3 years. I’m sure I’ll post well before that as well but it will not be consistent weekly. We’ve GOT to get the message out and keep talking about it so people will become aware. Also, please look into the benefits of grass-fed ruminants on the ecological health of an ecosystem. It’s wonderful. Just think about it. Before human civilization got so large, we had herds of hooves animals roaming the planet in herds of thousands and millions! Their “farts” did not hurt the environment and neither did their roaming. It is actually beneficial. By comparison you have these massive soy, corn and wheat monocultures using GMOs and glyphosate destroying plant diversity and wildlife in their wake on a MASSIVE SCALE, way more than possible realize. I’m sure that if many of these plant-based people realized how many animals were killed during harvesting of their wheat, corn and soy, they’d think twice about promoting that. I hope Bill Gates gets a clue about this soon. By the way, my degrees are in Marine Biology and Wildlife and Fisheries Sciences.
It will be an amazing channel. Having livestock myself and being self sufficient I know how much easier it is to use them for food as opposed to trying to grow cultivated plants to eat. Plants are hard work, especially when Mother Nature isn't playing ball. Growing grass and weeds for our livestock that suit the local soil conditions is no work at all.
Why are humans the only living thing on this planet that doesn't know what it should eat. Even the smallest bacteria, protazoe, fungi, and plant doesn't question it. Maybe we should be trying to answer that question.
Excellent info here! Very relevant to my daily health journey. Any advice on studying to be a low carb friendly nutritionist? I have coach / advisor training. Thanks for any info! Love the channel and info shared.
Highly recommend checking out health Maria Emmerich . She covers a wider spectrum from carnivore as well as low carb and also has coaching certification program and has helped many reach their health goals.
Here’s a good one with trusted practitioners. I haven’t taken their courses specifically but some of the instructors are the best in the low carb space thesmhp.org/
@@MichaelBLive Check out Dr. Shawn Baker - he has started up a medical network that specializes in metabolic health and deperscibing medications using low-carb diets (and other things). He could probably point you to good resources since he regularly evaluates medical personnel who apply to work in his network.
Thank you Judy. I always find your interviews and presentations so inspirational, clear and easy to watch/listen to. I am in my hotel and looking forward to hopefully meeting Jayne and Eddie Abbew tomorrow in London at the conference with the Public Health Collaboration that she mentions. There are tickets available for livestream...highly recommend! 👍🙂
Judy, keep dping these interviews! If i could affort your counceling i would take it. Since i can't your newsletter and your interviews are my information geysir
I have a friend whose grandson is allergic to dairy, so they feed him pea milk. He’s 2 and it scares me to think what these plant proteins are doing to him. I know every child develops at different rates, but he’s not really talking much. He’s 2 years old.
People are adjustable, don't worry. I have a colleague who eats kind of Mediterranean diet (being Italian), and her son can't even smell meat or fish, he won't touch it and he's naturally a vegetarian, but he's a thriving boy who loves football. If issues occur then will see. Not everyone has to be on carnivore to thrive, we choose the diet according to our health issues.
@@orchidmuse I agree, but my concern is that he’s only 2 and consuming so much pea milk. I worry about his development and that his brain needs a lot of good fats to develop. My husband had gut issues his entire life and now he was diagnosed last year with Parkinson’s Disease.
@@orchidmuse Don't you mean gullible? The body is very adaptable but the basics of how it works never changes. Long term problems will occur for him. As a two yr old the grandson of OP should be weaned by now anyway. Feed him meat.
I went to an SDA school in elementary, THE FOOD SUCKED! Damn rice and beans every day!!! I literally starved for years because those are my two most unfavorite foods! It’s a huge vegan cult😅
Yeah. My parents started going to SDAchurch in retirement when they moved to TN. I love the people, but I am also convinced they are a cult. My parents health has gone down hill since. But I can't convince them of it.
@@pilarskifamily899 it was a very nice experience, (except the food) good school and church, but people are generally nice in life altogether, we really don’t need cults brainwashing people anymore than tv and media already does! Lol yet somehow between the SDA and the jehovas witnesses, they are both intertwined in our politics food public health and every other crevice they can seep into! My grandparents got rooked into the SDA church after the Catholics spit on them!!! literally, for being Italians (during ww2) then my father from Croatia got roped into the JW’s all because they came by the house everyday pushing a Croatian bible on him, before we knew it, they took over our normal lives, no more holidays, no birthdays NOTHING! They are creepy, pushy, salesmen & Weirdos…. Sorry, if organized religion comes up now I get a tad bit RATTLED…. As you can see by my rant… lol, see ya around.
This is quickly becoming one of my favorite podcasts! Listening to this reminded me that one of my vegan friends warned me that you shouldn't be vegan for health. She and her family eventually switched away from vegan due to their health issues.
My husband had a heart calcium score of 75 after less than a year of meaty high fat keto, then carnivore. He was just checked again a year later, it dropped to 25... yeah, it reversed! YES red meat is heart healthy! Heart disease has run in his family. Not any more. :)
Thanks Judy for doing this. I've been in Bali for 11 years and have to live in the middle of a vegetarian belief system. It gets incredibly depressing not having people with common sense to talk to. I hope it changes soon.
It's a double whammy for me and probably many others but I am almost used to going against the grain. Not only living and evangelizing to people about the gospel but also telling others about this WOE. It seems as though my the majority of my life I have been met with opposition from the masses but I would not change it for anything. The race is well run and as God being my strength I will endure even if only one life is changed it's worth it.Wishing everyone in the same boat strength and endurance and keep your eye on the prize. It will not be in vain,there are those that will benefit from your help that you offer.
What a great and important interview, Judy. I know some vegans who seem really healthy. Good luck to them. I’ve chosen meat-based that keeps me really healthy. Thank goodness for our ability to choose. Interviews such as this help us choose. 👏
I have a friend who has been vegetarian for 54 years and vegan the past 2 years. He claims to be very healthy at 71 but is having an endoscopy this coming week because of his acid reflux issues! He also has very bad memory retention and suffers from depression. But he believes that being vegan is definitely the healthiest way to eat. I’m mostly carnivore/ketovore occasionally have a salad or small amount of broccoli or cauliflower and at 78 I’m doing very well.
Hi Judy! I have to add some corrections. I’m Seventh- Day Adventist. But I do eat mostly meat-based after listening to you and many others in a carnivore space. SDA’s do not believe you HAVE to be plant-based to get to heaven. As a SDA I will admit of our flaws as a faith based group. I will admit that they were trying to sell a product -(Kellogg’s) that’s why they pushed the breakfast is the most important meal of the day in order to do so. But our health message is based on a health acronym called New Start: The Eight Laws of Health is a NEW START! “Pure air, sunlight, abstemiousness, rest, exercise, proper diet, the use of water, trust in divine power (God). This is what Adventist believe. Are there Adventist vegetarians and vegans yes and they also do eat a lot of “Veggie meats” that are terribly high in sodium and Gluten and do encourage people to lean more towards a vegetarian lifestyle it is a blind leading the blind. Many Adventist who do eat meat like myself we follow the “clean vs unclean meats kind of like Kosher meats. But I just had to say we don’t say you’ll go to hell if you don’t eat vegetarian and vegan. I say this as someone who is still Adventist I’m actually the daughter of a pastor. I do think more people do need to look at health truly for themselves and learn based on facts and not be afraid to go against the grain. Pun intended 😉
The ultimate cancel culture. I wish people would develop some more critical thinking. I am sure that my ancestors in Europe at some point survived strictly on meat, as hunters and gatherers.
What drives me mad is that the pro meat brigade completely ignores the pesticides herbicides, run off of chemicals and the huge amount of land used to grow crops to fatten their meat.
If you read the studies done on the seventh day adventists it is very clear they live longer in better health. As an RN for 37 years most of my patients were sick because of what they ate, drank ( alcohol) and smoked. They were most definitely not on a plant based diet. They ate the standard American diet. I honestly don’t see anyone pushing the plant based diet in our area. I see a lot of Keto diets.
eating an animal based diet is like driving a gas guzzling truck! we are destorying every ecosystem on the planet now- and eating lots of meat is a big part of that. (not to mention the cruelty) domesticated animals like cows, pigs, even farmed fish, etc. are now more numerous that the natural wildlife that form our critical ecosystems we depend upon! we can do fine and adapt over time to a mostly plant based diet.
But can everyone? Some people will be okay, but as people are saying here after sometime their health declined, and improved after eating meat. Some advocate eating meat once or twice a month. Perhaps it’s the factory farms that need to go and selling meats at fast food places. Hmmmm
@Jennieadams1979 no...plant based. The development of agriculture, thousands of years ago allowed humans to give up their hunter gatherer lifestyle and settle in one location and build communities and eventually large towns and cities that relied mainly on growing grains, vegetables, beans, tubers, etc. Large scale agriculture was the only means to feed a growing population. It got to the point where a family was fortunate if they had one cow for milk and a few chickens. Meat was the food of the rich primarily. If you examine grocery stores today, 95% of the food (garbage mainly) is made of plants (grains, beans, veg, and fruit). The trade off that humanity experienced in exchange for our population explosion due to agriculture, was that our health began it's decline to where we are today...a sickly, overweight, over stimulated, nutritionally starved species. Many books have been written on this subject.
@@jgfergus Yep, that's where it all went wrong. Mankind got lazy anad stopped hunting, easier to just water plants and with Lots and Lots of seasonings, made them edible.
I saw the most health improvements from simply eliminating the processed foods and seed oils even though I was still eating some carbs from potatoes. About 80% carnavore by default. Carbs can offset the negative impact of stored linoleic acid in your fat reserves during its half-Life. The lesser of 2 evils.
Plant-based works for many people I know. Meat work for others as well. So I’m in the middle of it all. Eat plants and steaks without processed, gmo, refined stuff. I’m good. I feel great!
Good for you. I would encourage you to give carnivore a try for 90. You may realize you can feel even better. That was my experience. I'm now 2 yrs carnivore and will never go back to plants.
@@jayhoggard92Same here. Went from horrible, standard diet to mixed, whole-food diet, and finally to carnivore. I felt better at each stage. Nothing feels as good as when I cut out everything except animal products.
Plant based does work for many people, but children are suffering today and that is very telling. The thing with plants is they are a low dose poison that gradually robs the body of nutrients to the point we start to feel unwell and start going to doctors. Suffering can take decades to rear it's ugly head, and like many old folks, they found no relief over decades, until trying carnivore, or ketovore. What I recommend is that if one eats plants and after some time doesn't feel well, keep the carnivore diet in mind and eat only meat.
I am so glad to see this. I find that almost all comments in these presentations are at one end of the spectrum or the other. I remain fully middle ground.
With great respect BUT 44:00 and following regarding ‘animals & even young children know what to eat (instinctively)’ is absolutely incorrect as all 99% of mammals (absolutely including humans) LEARN WHAT TO EAT FROM THEIR MOTHERS. Not only do young mammals learn what to eat & drink from their mothers during their early postnatal association with their mothers, but nutrients in their mothers milk ‘primes’ them to ‘know’ what to eat. Indeed, studies show that the mother’s diet during pregnancy also establishes physiologically the manner in which the new individual will metabolise food.
What they're saying is when animals (and people) have a deficiency, they know it instinctively. We can definitely tell when something is 'missing' and we keep eating to meet that need.
Not true, my mother desperately tried to teach me to eat brussel sprouts... Joking aside, children are genetically programmed to crave sugar and reject anything bitter. They are genetically programmed to gnaw on a meaty bone and not want a plate of leafy greens. Historically, our sugar fix was from local fruit or honey a few weeks a year, this is now our achilles heel, we now have access to sugar 24/7 and it's a disaster. It's one of the reasons people love a fruitarian diet, they are actually sugar addicts.
I believe this too. My children love to eat exactly what I ate during my pregnancy with them. I feel endless guilt because my oldest only wants dairy and carbs (creamy pasta and cheese was basically all I ate) he has so many health issues. My middle child I ate non starchy veggies and lean proteins limited carbs. She also loves these foods but has joint issues Im guessing from the high quantity of high oxylate foods. My last I was so nutrient deficient I craved red meat. I craved RAW red meat lol I ate very low carb and almost exclusively meat. He's my steak baby and loves steak and all animal products.
Why not get Dr. John McDougall on your show? Dr. Greger, Dr. Campbell or Dr. Neal Bernard. There are hundreds of whole food, plant based doctors who have decades of science standing behind them. I won't hold my breath though.
QUESTION How does someone such as myself find out or confirm that an article or news story is funded by an organization? You mentioned the Guardian and the animal rights agency funding their article. How do I find that information?
When I cook for others and prepare veggies (which I don’t eat) I tell them I cooked plants for them. 😂😂😂. This makes them think a little. If you call them plants they don’t sound so healthy.
I think a lot of Hindus and Buddhists are vegetarian. India has the most Hindus at around 1 billion…. So the number of vegetarian are probably 500 million in India alone. More like 10% of world pop is vegetarian and 2% vegan
Your comment about Bill Gates owning most of our farm land really rattled me. Where did you hear/read that? I did a search, and came up with something very different. Thank you
I think they're making the point that many so-called "facts" these days are actually manufactured and paid for by industry, to prop up that industry's profit base. Of course, that's been true for centuries if not millenia. It's always been a buyer-beware kind of system we live in.
I can understand recommending adding some meat to a plant-based diet to add some vitamin B12 but it makes no sense to me to remove 4 or 5 food groups and replace them with just one food group, meat. That will create more nutrient deficiencies, a very restrictive and non-sustainable diet for most people.
You have just revealed your lack of nutritional knowledge. Your paradigm of "food groups" is propaganda, nothing more. There is enough proven nutrients in meat for any human. Get educated. Open your mind. Listen to Drs. Berry, Chaffee and Norton. Then make up your mind and good luck to you.
There are all kinds of meat. Fish, shellfish, chicken, turkey, pheasant, quail, duck, beef, lamb, pork, goat, bison, venison, the list goes on and depends on where in the world you are, then there are dairy products and eggs. You'd have to be pretty restrictive to suffer from any sort of nutritional deficiency. Humans are carnivores at heart considering we are unable to utilise cellulose which is absolutely essential for herbivores, then there's our stomach acid pH which is more akin to carrion eaters than omnivores. Plants are optional, meat is not.
Seventh-day Adventists are some of the longest living people on this planet. And as a Seventh-day Adventist I truly resent being lumped in with the WHO, WEF, Bill Gates. SDA lifestyle is based on a whole plant based diet, not process foods, or bug meal. And for this author and interviewer to link us together in this fashion is disingenuous. Buxton's degree in 'creative writing' sure shines through. It is evident that it is not the plants that are the con here. And for the record the Seventh-day Adventists do not believe that in order to get to heaven you have to be plant based. I really wish you would have talked to an actual Seventh-day Adventist instead of one who is obviously bias against them for whatever reason. If you want to know more you can ask me.
In 22 years studying the human body on a high level i had all kinds of patients. Carnivore keto plant based vegan etc. i have never seen that level of sick like the carnivore keto etc. The ones that stayed eating that way 0% got better and alot of them are gone. The ones who went plant based about 95% got well. Those are the stats i dint make them up. And knowing what i know about the body that seems about right. Its your choice. This is not a game
Unfortunately i think any turning point will come too late. It might be easier for SOME people to hear the anti obesity/diabetes message but the pervasive, more subtle mental health epidemic is another issue. Potential dietary influences on poor mental, somehow just never get mentioned. A very major blind spot thats compounding/supporting fallacious arguments and preventing change
Great interview! I have been researching on nutrition and making changes to my diet for some years now, mainly to treat diverse health conditions, currently using a ketogenic diet that includes mainly diverse meats, eggs, some vegetables and almost no fruit. Leaving apart all health-related arguments on what the best diet for the human species is, what I can´t come to terms with is the moral aspect of the animal-based, especially the carnivore, diets. We have evolved to be an increasingly conscious species, guided by quite a constant set of moral values, that mostly condemns violence in all its forms. Most of us are moved by animal abuse, and we have increasingly developed emotional ties with animals. Therefore, it sounds like an evolutionary contradiction that the “proper” diet for humans is one that depends on us going against those moral tendencies, and that requires the killing of sentient beings (more or less violent depending on the way of production, but always violent), most especially in the case of mammals. This is something I struggle with, and I believe is the only real argument in favor of a plant-based (vegan/vegetarian) diet.
Do some research into the number of animals killed to grow plants commercially (many cute, fluffy ones too). You will be utterly horrified. That's where the real animal abuse is. Not in good, pasture based livestock farming.
Thank you for this thought worthy interview. However, I want to point out that everything you are saying about plant-based studies, financing, motivations, and claims apply equally to the meat, poultry, and dairy industries. Furthermore, people on a strictly plant-based diet, as well as on a mixed food diet, can live a healthy life, depending on their overall lifestyle and healthy food choices. I agree that those of us who choose a plant-based lifestyle may dominantly be concerned about animal welfare, sustainability, and environmental factors, but that is not the point I am trying to make here. It would be helpful if you had a small, well-informed panel to discuss the research and who is funding it. Otherwise, we are still being swayed to believe one narrative. Nevertheless, this information is food for thought.
All you have to do is eliminate carbs, sugars and most plants (lectins) to discover the JOY OF FEELING GREAT AGAIN!!! It doesn't take very long either. I am almost completely pain-free and full of energy again ✨️ after decades of chronic pain and fatigue from Fibromyalgia and spinal damage from an accident. As a long time vegetarian I experienced anemia and B12 deficiency...
You believe whatever, doesn't make it viable. My body and the progress I've made on Meat based with the occasional onion/tomato maybe a berry or two here and there, tells me all I need to know. Plants are fiber, so is wood, I don't eat it. I know that I know that I know. A child may believe their parent when they say that fire can burn you, but until it does, they do not KNOW it does. They learn immediately if they experience it. Same with food. I trust my intelligence and my body to tell me all I need to know. I choose to eat the food the original humans ate thousands of years before they learned they could raise plants to replace the meat they ate that kept them the most successful species on the planet. I'd rather be King of the jungle than a cow, they have the many stomachs to process grass, I don't.
I think you need to dig a little deeper into how much influence the likes of Kelloggs and Seventh Day Aventists have had where food is concerned to understand the depths of the deception. The meat industry doesn't have as much influence as you appear to believe.
The noise isn't just from vegans and vegetarians. The Blue Zones where people live the longest are mostly plant based. As more and more research studies show the benefits of plant based diets healthcare professionals are recommending Mediterranean diets and Dash diets which are also plant based but easier to follow.
Excellent point! Believe me, I enjoyed eating meats and their products back when I did so, but since I have not consumed any of this for about a year now, I couldn’t imagine returning to that way of eating. There’s just no need for it, (secondhand protein that an animal has gotten from eating plants). I will just eat the plants myself. And when I think about the abuse that our precious animals, that God gave us as a gift to enjoy and treat with love and kindness. It makes me sick and sad to consume their DNA in such an abusive manner, as humans are doing today. This is not at all what God had intended for humankind. And yet I’m not saying it’s 100% wrong to consume animals and their products or God would’ve never allowed it to begin with. I just know the way it’s being done today is 100% wrong. And if we were back to a perfect state of God’s original purpose for the earth, which will be accomplished very soon. We will most likely go back to enjoying the earth and having our precious animals have NO fear us. Psalms 37
Have you been to a mediteraean country? I live there. My vegetarian friends who visited could not find a non red meat restaurant. Red meat is very much in the centre, but the plant based academics announced that it was not a meat, butter and cream diet.
The Blue Zones have been thoroughly debunked many times over by the scientific community. Even if they eat mostly plant based foods they are eating a lot of animals fats. It's animal fats that contribute the most calories to their diet and that's why they are healthy. It certainly isn't the plants.
Whatever we believe, is true. I refuse to believe that and will advocate until I can’t. I have two young boys that I have to say later if I tried to make this world a better place. We may not win but we still need to try. And even still, look how many are being helped by carnivore. The movement is growing and that is enough for me to serve and share. Lastly I highly recommend reading this: www.thestarfishchange.org/starfish-tale If we can help even one more starfish, it is worth the fight. ♥️
Maybe. No one - NO ONE knows what the future holds for humanity on this Earth. But with this attitude the bumblebee wouldn't fly and would have probably gone extinct long ago.
As Judy points out around the 4:00 mark, the vegans and vegetarians are HUGELY outnumbered. 2% of people are (temporary) vegans, and 5% are vegetarian. If we, the 98-95% can't figure out how to protect our rights from that tiny (and anemic) cohort, then it could only be for lack of trying. Vote with your dollars. If beef is where the money is, then money-hungry people will start to produce beef. We had beef barons in the 1800s, and we can have them again if that's what the market demands.
Eliminating meat? What the hell is wrong with people? All people need to do is open their eyes to see that the recommendations of eating so many carbs doesn’t work! We’ve never been fatter and sicker in the U.S. and in many other countries, as well. Even if the people aren’t fat, they’re often very sick. Southern Asia is a good example of this. Type 2 is rampant.
Because they eat junk foods,not plant based, people forget to make food at home and they only eat fatty foods and highly processed foods that make them sick
How do you deal with the constipation issues on a carnivore diet which contains no fiber? Fiber also feeds the healthy gut bacteria which then produce health benefits. This is a big issue that was not discussed.
There isn’t a constipation issue. For some people, fiber CAUSES constipation… this is why GI doctors often recommend a very low or no fiber diet for those who have IBS. Your information is very lopsided.
I had some constipation initially, but it resolved in a couple of weeks of strict carnivore with lots of fat, like butter and fatty meats. Eat more fat, it helps so much during transition. The gut bugs adjust. 🙂
I've been on mine for like about 11 yrs thereabouts, but I eat once a day & it's all I'm hungry for, so mine is & has been if I can eat enough, but I exercise, 💝🚴♀️
Disney has a lot to answer for 😡. Urbanisation has meant that the only animals modern folks are exposed to are pets and cute, anthropormorphised, talking animals. Even when discussing animal welfare, the cult-of-cute values fluffy lives over rodents/insects/soil biota
What expertise does this woman have on food ? Zero. This is the pendulum swinging the other way to scare folks. Don’t be fooled by such interviews people. She isn’t qualified to give any knowledge on it.
Who's more qualified? A doctor taught a few hours of propaganda at medical school, or a writer who researched studies and conducted interviews with experts for years in order to write a book?
I completely agree! As a nurse, all the patients I see with high blood pressure, diabetes, and high cholesterol are meat eaters. So many people have 2 to 3 of these conditions. Now, I see lots of ulcerative colitis and Crohns. Be smart folks. You need fruits and veggies, and perhaps a little meat. I do eat seafood about 2 days a week for the past 35 years. I feel great with zero illness. DON'T EAT LOTS OF MEAT as the moderator ended with.
@@eslom1489 You are seeing a lot of sick people. That's your job. But they don't represent what is normal. They are sick. Those diseases are metabolic diseases. I cured the horrendous perimenopausal symptoms I was experiencing by avoiding plant foods and greatly increasing my intake of animal fats. I was in a bad state but am now back to my normal self. Grains are the worst for my hormones. Was I just supposed to suffer? I'm not the only woman to discover this either.
Been vegetarian largely vegan for 45 years. Always avoided the refined ultra processed food industry suggestions for the most part I’m 63 now I have no diseases and my blood work is remarkably good. A1c 5.4 The plant based foods are healing in many ways. But so many vegetarians year in crazy ways ! Studies show repeatedly one after the next that a plant based artery can revert arteriosclerosis. The big cohort studies of Adventists have shown that people on a vegetarian diet are more protected against cancer and live longer. I respect the criticism but this is just talk. Studies actually are not discussed This presentation is devoid of science and of heart data. You should conduct studies first and show the plant based is not protective before you come up with your ideas and suppositions. Just talk will lead you nowhere. I enjoy most of the presentations by this nutriiionist. This one left me baffled. And I am a professor and read the literature assiduously. I’ve also been a health educator and naturopath for decades. I’ve seen the power of adequate nutrition and amazing recoveries. The narrative that fills this presentation is incomprehensible to me and lamentably biased
The only comparison study that would be valid is comparing long term 100% plant based eater to 100% meat eaters. Not the typical misleading studies that compare vegans to eaters of the standard American diet who eat some meat but lots of processed garbage. And as you think yourself so intelligent, you obviously know that a vegan diet is deficient in many important nutrients. But you may not grasp these things as 45 years of veganism has resulted in inferior brain development. And I bet you are a skinny frail elderly man with little muscle mass. But you eat what you want, just don't dictate to me what I should be eating.
Interestingly she just mentioned studies that were done but blocked from publishing for decades because they didn't support the plant based Ansel Keys mantra. There is a giant problem with science not having integrity when funded by corporations and governments with an agenda. We like to think our science in uncorruptible, but that's just not the case.
@@lifechoices7869 bias has to do with preferences perceptions and opinions. Facts trumps all that. You cannot deny facts. But you cannot turn a blind eye to all the research demonstrating over and over what happens when people change to plant based diets both prospective and retrospective studies. I cannot deny what I have seen in my patients either. Reality is what it is not what we fancy it to be. This talk was just talk it provided no substantiation from the scientific literature. It was the worst demonstration I’ve seen in a long time of trying to raise s vacuous argument.
For me, yes. Vegan since 2017. Low thyroid (Hashimoto's) reversed. Raynaud's reversed. Allergies gone. Runny nose gone. Better mobility (less stiff), weight control. I always had low iron, that's gone now too. Now I eat no junk food, only whole unprocessed plant foods. Lots and lots of dark leafy greens. Flax for plant based omega 3. No oil. I have never felt better. It is not always easy because I have to eat out of my own kitchen, but it has changed my life for the better. I would never go back. When I was eating meat and eggs and cheese it was local and organic and I was getting sicker and sicker. I do what works.
95% of the world is not plant based? What? I think you misspoke. Most of the world IS plant based. All the foods people eat and drink come from plants! Only a small amount of people are meat based, namely those who eat the carnivore way. 🙂
@@lf7065 I think you need to look up what 'plant based' means. It means eating only plants. Vegan is an ethical choice to eat only plants, so all vegans are plant based, but not all plant based eaters are vegan.
You are the one that is clueless. Plants have no vitamin A. They have beta carotene which is not the same. Get your facts straight before displaying your ignorance.
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Don't give up, Judy! You make a difference!
Thanks. There are days that I have to remind myself that the comment section doesn't always represent a fair cross-section of the population.
Will Harris from White Oak Pastures was on Joe Rogan recently. Getting the word out on Regenerative farming.
I interviewed Joel Salatin, and he's amazing, too! ruclips.net/video/rmqyfvWIKKs/видео.htmlsi=b6zJRakoQ_q05bkd
Yes yes!! We know what we have to do, we have the studies, the real science, the soil analysis. Biodiversity, regenerative farming practices. But look at our captured and corrupt gov.-agencies throwing Amish-farmers in jail. We are living in a time of great importance. If we do not react, defend our way of life, they will destroy it and destroy humans capacity to thrive and stay healthy, strong. It looks like this is their plan. We must all stand together. We are many, they are few. The power is with the poeple, but hopefully not with those brainwashed into believing the propaganda spewing out of the puppetmaster‘s mouths. Do your research people, the facts are crystal clear.
Judy has the BEST interviews!!! This is so fascinating. I appreciate all the content and great guests.
Root vegetables, grains, beans....food for slaves and during times of starvation. Throughout history, slaves were always fed cheap grains and beans, zero meat and eggs.
So most people in a world are slaves and the little amount is superior and special 😂
@@Barbara-oe7yhActually yes, they want us sick, tired and weak with foggy brains & poor memory... Easier to control the population then! Read the book, THE GREAT RESET, which is being implemented NOW! (2030 target date) or listen to the speeches made in Davos!!! They are evil emperors & in their own minds, they are superior to us peons...
The SUGAR & GRAIN INDUSTRIES were behind the Fat is bad motto they imposed on us! They replaced good whole foods with Low Fat & added sugars and filler grains! The same as used to fatten livestock!!! Our whole society became FAT & sick with Metabolic Syndrome & Diabetes!😢 The SAD diet is killing us and the Food Pyramid has been upside down for decades! They don't care about our health, obviously 🙄 look what they did to us during the Covid Plandemic... Restricted our remedies, drs couldnt even talk about it & lied about it being paid for & produced in Wuhan by US, NIH & Fauci funding Gain of Function Research! Obama moved it to China as we made it illegal to do here!The. forced us to take an experimental DNA antagonist when all we needed was a safe dose of Hydroxychloraquine!🤬
Since going Keto/Carnivore I have a lot more energy and much less chronic pain from a bad accident! I actually got my youth and LIFE back! Hallelujah! 🎉😂
@@Barbara-oe7yh learn a little history Babs!
Middle class and lower class food was grain tuber beans some milk and egg for centuries .. hardworking and active .. while meat fish eating clergy and elite were plump and lethargic 🍁
@@Barbara-oe7yh Yep, slaves to the medical establishment mostly. I haven't been to the doctor in years. Have you?
What drives me mad is that carbon emissions are the only environmental contributer counted - what about pesticide, herbicide, fertilizers, soil depletion, etc.. industrial farming (all kinds) are highly destructive
Excellent points, thanks!
What’s weird is that people like you try to turn the tables by saying, “Plant agriculture is worse,” when animal farming is of course a huge source source of plant agriculture. If you think that crop production is so bad then you should stop eating farmed meat.
And global warming is a scam. Those things you mentioned are real.
@@MichaelHplusPasture and grass fed. Profits are what drives the terrible farming of animals. They're not supposed to eat corn and grain.
Where does that happen specifically?
Spot on.Excellent . Thank you Dr. Judy and Jayne Buxton .. another great , video!!!
A Fantastic video packed with brilliant no nonsense information! Many thanks Judy and Jane🙂🥩⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Thank you for this. I came from 14 yrs of plant based, and ended up carnivore. That initial feeling good on plant based, was from cutting out junk, I believe. Over the years I got worse and worse.
And now, slowly but surely, I am getting better.
Good choice. 👍
Exactly what happened to me except it took me 30 years to figure it out. 2.5 years carnivore now.
I bought into it in the 70s, my health declined so that I had to eat meat again in the mid 80s to stay out of the hospital.
Yet I STILL believed that saturated fat was bad and that red meat caused cancer. Talk about cognitive dissonance 😵💫
It’s been taught to us for so long and most people believe that message, that it’s hard to shake ❤️🩹
Their propaganda is very powerful. So we have to be even stronger.
I admit to falling for the con around 8 years ago. I read the China Study, listened to Neil B etc and was convinced because it sounded good and I didn't verify their 'facts'. I thought I felt better for the first few months but I now know it was from eliminating seed oils combined with a placebo effect because I remember my increasing bowel issues, gas and bloating, arthritis, hair loss and brain fog etc. Fast forward to today and I'm now almost 5 years carnivore and absolutely thriving!
I went down the same rabbit hole as you , it took me longer to get to carnivore started in February this year. But its cleared up so many problems I was having which I thought was age related but turned out not. Congratulations on nearly reaching 5 years carnivore.
Thank you!! Your truth is so important.
8:30 Yes, I also thought plant based was healthiest so when I stopped smoking and ate plants for 2 years, I was very surprised when ended up almost having surgery to fix chronic health problems.
Luckily I found carnivore late 2018 and now all of my health problems are gone with no doctors help and I still eat a carnivore diet :)
How many times you have BM on a day?
@@suzannepurple Probably 1 or 2 per week with a meat only diet.
With plants it was at least 2 per day, shows that the body does not like the plants :)
As for SDA saying the only way to Heaven is through eating plants……. Maybe they missed Genesis 9 where The Lord tells Noah from now on in ADDITION to the herbs and plants you are eating you will eat animals for food.
Also salvation is ONLY through Jesus period (John 14:6).
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Or Leviticus 11, where is specifically says "You may eat any animal that has a divided hoof and that chews the cud.". doesn't get any more clear than that...
Yes God’s word is clear, even Paul says in the latter days(Where we are now) there will be people who tell us to abstain from certain foods and that everything is good when God blesses it and sanctifies it.
Adventists do you eat meat They do not believe you don’t go to heaven if you do eat meat this is not true. Jesus said you were not defiled by what goes into your mouth, but what comes out of it?
There are many healthy centurion vegetarians. Also, human lives have been shortened, from almost 1000 years before the flood to less than 100 or slightly more since meat was introduced to the diet.
Keeping the diet simple, and not eating all the processed food, helps to keep one healthier. But please don’t lump All vegetarians or vegans the same or uninformed. They are not.
Oh, and by the way, I have not heard or known “SDAs who believe only vegetarians go to heaven”. One is saved according to his relationship with God.
Just recovering from a bad case of food poisoning from little gem lettuce. Not the steak, but the lettuce. My daughter only ate steak she was fine. Her friends and I also ate the salad and we got stomach cramps, diarrhoea, cold sweats, really unwell for a day.
Great conversation 👌 and I love that youre acknowledging the propaganda against meat. We need to be aware of it because they want to restrict our access
Stopped eating most fruits and vegs.
And i ate a lot. Histamine intolarance. I was poisening myself for decades thinking it was healthy. So many symptoms i had.
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Feel better than ever after two months.
How did you deal with your histamine intolerance? I’m dealing with that now after 40 years whole food plant based, now carnivore for 5 months and feeling much better
Excellent discussion. You two make so much sense.
Excellent book!
Jayne Buxton is such a movie star name. Perfect for such a gorgeous lady!
Congratulations to both, really interesting and informative.
Thanks for covering so many important issues❤
Never once have I craved lettuce or any greens. Even salads, everyone wants the toppings, not the leaves.
I actually do crave a salad and mostly the leaves, so it’s hard for me to give it up completely
There are RUclips videos on pastured raised chickens and eggs and they demonstrated a fascinating method where there are trackers that move giant hen houses around the pasture. The land is fertilized, and the chickens have the opportunity to eat bugs which increases the nutritional value of both eggs and chicken
Just because someone failed to do the plant based diet the right way, there's no need to trash it. For someone who's been whole food plant based for almost a decade, my only regret that I haven't started it earlier.
@Jennieadams1979 Why is that ?
You are like 1/100 in 8 billion. Congrats. The rest of us need protein
Excellent thanks very much 😅
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I know it makes women feel better that they can say well we're all different, the fact of the matter is, we're the same species and we have a correct diet and a plant based diet is not that. Being able to eat things without getting super sick or dying from it is, different than thriving.
Thank you both so much for your work!! I have RUclips channel on sustainability and plan to teach the FACT that plant-based is terrible for the environment. I don’t have a lot of time to work on my channel right now so have taken a step back from it but I’m working on it a LOT behind the scenes and will go full force once I retire in about 3 years. I’m sure I’ll post well before that as well but it will not be consistent weekly. We’ve GOT to get the message out and keep talking about it so people will become aware. Also, please look into the benefits of grass-fed ruminants on the ecological health of an ecosystem. It’s wonderful. Just think about it. Before human civilization got so large, we had herds of hooves animals roaming the planet in herds of thousands and millions! Their “farts” did not hurt the environment and neither did their roaming. It is actually beneficial. By comparison you have these massive soy, corn and wheat monocultures using GMOs and glyphosate destroying plant diversity and wildlife in their wake on a MASSIVE SCALE, way more than possible realize. I’m sure that if many of these plant-based people realized how many animals were killed during harvesting of their wheat, corn and soy, they’d think twice about promoting that. I hope Bill Gates gets a clue about this soon. By the way, my degrees are in Marine Biology and Wildlife and Fisheries Sciences.
It will be an amazing channel. Having livestock myself and being self sufficient I know how much easier it is to use them for food as opposed to trying to grow cultivated plants to eat. Plants are hard work, especially when Mother Nature isn't playing ball. Growing grass and weeds for our livestock that suit the local soil conditions is no work at all.
Why are humans the only living thing on this planet that doesn't know what it should eat. Even the smallest bacteria, protazoe, fungi, and plant doesn't question it. Maybe we should be trying to answer that question.
Definitely. Dr. Berry speaks about it often!
Propaganda.
Simple...humans have free will and have lost their instinctual knowledge.
Excellent info here! Very relevant to my daily health journey. Any advice on studying to be a low carb friendly nutritionist? I have coach / advisor training. Thanks for any info! Love the channel and info shared.
Highly recommend checking out health Maria Emmerich . She covers a wider spectrum from carnivore as well as low carb and also has coaching certification program and has helped many reach their health goals.
Here’s a good one with trusted practitioners. I haven’t taken their courses specifically but some of the instructors are the best in the low carb space thesmhp.org/
@@NutritionwithJudy Thank you!!!
@@MichaelBLive Check out Dr. Shawn Baker - he has started up a medical network that specializes in metabolic health and deperscibing medications using low-carb diets (and other things).
He could probably point you to good resources since he regularly evaluates medical personnel who apply to work in his network.
Simply convert all vegetable crops to free-range, grass-fed ruminant animal pastures. 😅
Great interview! Got all my attention!
Thank you Judy. I always find your interviews and presentations so inspirational, clear and easy to watch/listen to. I am in my hotel and looking forward to hopefully meeting Jayne and Eddie Abbew tomorrow in London at the conference with the Public Health Collaboration that she mentions. There are tickets available for livestream...highly recommend! 👍🙂
Judy, keep dping these interviews! If i could affort your counceling i would take it. Since i can't your newsletter and your interviews are my information geysir
I have a friend whose grandson is allergic to dairy, so they feed him pea milk. He’s 2 and it scares me to think what these plant proteins are doing to him. I know every child develops at different rates, but he’s not really talking much. He’s 2 years old.
People are adjustable, don't worry. I have a colleague who eats kind of Mediterranean diet (being Italian), and her son can't even smell meat or fish, he won't touch it and he's naturally a vegetarian, but he's a thriving boy who loves football. If issues occur then will see. Not everyone has to be on carnivore to thrive, we choose the diet according to our health issues.
@@orchidmuse I agree, but my concern is that he’s only 2 and consuming so much pea milk. I worry about his development and that his brain needs a lot of good fats to develop. My husband had gut issues his entire life and now he was diagnosed last year with Parkinson’s Disease.
@@lynnpoag8173 Oh that's bad. 😞Stay strong 💫
@@orchidmuse Don't you mean gullible? The body is very adaptable but the basics of how it works never changes. Long term problems will occur for him. As a two yr old the grandson of OP should be weaned by now anyway. Feed him meat.
I went to an SDA school in elementary, THE FOOD SUCKED! Damn rice and beans every day!!! I literally starved for years because those are my two most unfavorite foods!
It’s a huge vegan cult😅
Yeah. My parents started going to SDAchurch in retirement when they moved to TN. I love the people, but I am also convinced they are a cult. My parents health has gone down hill since. But I can't convince them of it.
@@pilarskifamily899 it was a very nice experience, (except the food) good school and church, but people are generally nice in life altogether, we really don’t need cults brainwashing people anymore than tv and media already does! Lol yet somehow between the SDA and the jehovas witnesses, they are both intertwined in our politics food public health and every other crevice they can seep into!
My grandparents got rooked into the SDA church after the Catholics spit on them!!! literally, for being Italians (during ww2)
then my father from Croatia got roped into the JW’s all because they came by the house everyday pushing a Croatian bible on him, before we knew it, they took over our normal lives, no more holidays, no birthdays NOTHING! They are creepy, pushy, salesmen & Weirdos….
Sorry, if organized religion comes up now I get a tad bit RATTLED…. As you can see by my rant… lol, see ya around.
Wow, great conversation! Will be sharing with my plant-based friends when the time seems right 😉
This is quickly becoming one of my favorite podcasts! Listening to this reminded me that one of my vegan friends warned me that you shouldn't be vegan for health. She and her family eventually switched away from vegan due to their health issues.
This was just awsome! I am so happy to have stumbled on it. ❤❤
My husband had a heart calcium score of 75 after less than a year of meaty high fat keto, then carnivore. He was just checked again a year later, it dropped to 25... yeah, it reversed! YES red meat is heart healthy! Heart disease has run in his family. Not any more. :)
Awesome, congrats! Love hearing these testimonies 🤓
A well rounded plant based diet I still the best
Great interview!!!💗💗💗
Great interview!!👏👏
Thanks Judy for doing this. I've been in Bali for 11 years and have to live in the middle of a vegetarian belief system. It gets incredibly depressing not having people with common sense to talk to. I hope it changes soon.
It's a double whammy for me and probably many others but I am almost used to going against the grain. Not only living and evangelizing to people about the gospel but also telling others about this WOE. It seems as though my the majority of my life I have been met with opposition from the masses but I would not change it for anything. The race is well run and as God being my strength I will endure even if only one life is changed it's worth it.Wishing everyone in the same boat strength and endurance and keep your eye on the prize. It will not be in vain,there are those that will benefit from your help that you offer.
What a great and important interview, Judy. I know some vegans who seem really healthy. Good luck to them. I’ve chosen meat-based that keeps me really healthy. Thank goodness for our ability to choose. Interviews such as this help us choose. 👏
I have a few friends who are vegan. ALL of them have either serious arthritis, skin issues, anxiety and sleep issues or the combo!
I have a friend who has been vegetarian for 54 years and vegan the past 2 years. He claims to be very healthy at 71 but is having an endoscopy this coming week because of his acid reflux issues! He also has very bad memory retention and suffers from depression. But he believes that being vegan is definitely the healthiest way to eat. I’m mostly carnivore/ketovore occasionally have a salad or small amount of broccoli or cauliflower and at 78 I’m doing very well.
Hi Judy! I have to add some corrections. I’m Seventh- Day Adventist. But I do eat mostly meat-based after listening to you and many others in a carnivore space. SDA’s do not believe you HAVE to be plant-based to get to heaven. As a SDA I will admit of our flaws as a faith based group. I will admit that they were trying to sell a product -(Kellogg’s) that’s why they pushed the breakfast is the most important meal of the day in order to do so. But our health message is based on a health acronym called New Start: The Eight Laws of Health is a NEW START! “Pure air, sunlight, abstemiousness, rest, exercise, proper diet, the use of water, trust in divine power (God). This is what Adventist believe. Are there Adventist vegetarians and vegans yes and they also do eat a lot of “Veggie meats” that are terribly high in sodium and Gluten and do encourage people to lean more towards a vegetarian lifestyle it is a blind leading the blind. Many Adventist who do eat meat like myself we follow the “clean vs unclean meats kind of like Kosher meats.
But I just had to say we don’t say you’ll go to hell if you don’t eat vegetarian and vegan. I say this as someone who is still Adventist I’m actually the daughter of a pastor.
I do think more people do need to look at health truly for themselves and learn based on facts and not be afraid to go against the grain. Pun intended 😉
The ultimate cancel culture. I wish people would develop some more critical thinking. I am sure that my ancestors in Europe at some point survived strictly on meat, as hunters and gatherers.
What drives me mad is that the pro meat brigade completely ignores the pesticides herbicides, run off of chemicals and the huge amount of land used to grow crops to fatten their meat.
If you read the studies done on the seventh day adventists it is very clear they live longer in better health.
As an RN for 37 years most of my patients were sick because of what they ate, drank ( alcohol) and smoked. They were most definitely not on a plant based diet. They ate the standard American diet. I honestly don’t see anyone pushing the plant based diet in our area. I see a lot of Keto diets.
Plant based is just another marketing tool along with low fat etc. If it's plant-based I don't eat it.
eating an animal based diet is like driving a gas guzzling truck! we are destorying every ecosystem on the planet now- and eating lots of meat is a big part of that. (not to mention the cruelty) domesticated animals like cows, pigs, even farmed fish, etc. are now more numerous that the natural wildlife that form our critical ecosystems we depend upon! we can do fine and adapt over time to a mostly plant based diet.
But can everyone? Some people will be okay, but as people are saying here after sometime their health declined, and improved after eating meat. Some advocate eating meat once or twice a month. Perhaps it’s the factory farms that need to go and selling meats at fast food places. Hmmmm
Eggs, eggs, eggs and more eggs! I could eat eggs forever.
Plant-based does not necessarily mean vegan or vegetarian. It can also mean eating primarily plant foods but on occasion including some meat.
Most of humanity has been essentially plant based for thousands of years.
@Jennieadams1979 no...plant based. The development of agriculture, thousands of years ago allowed humans to give up their hunter gatherer lifestyle and settle in one location and build communities and eventually large towns and cities that relied mainly on growing grains, vegetables, beans, tubers, etc. Large scale agriculture was the only means to feed a growing population. It got to the point where a family was fortunate if they had one cow for milk and a few chickens. Meat was the food of the rich primarily. If you examine grocery stores today, 95% of the food (garbage mainly) is made of plants (grains, beans, veg, and fruit). The trade off that humanity experienced in exchange for our population explosion due to agriculture, was that our health began it's decline to where we are today...a sickly, overweight, over stimulated, nutritionally starved species. Many books have been written on this subject.
@@jgfergus Yep, that's where it all went wrong. Mankind got lazy anad stopped hunting, easier to just water plants and with Lots and Lots of seasonings, made them edible.
I saw the most health improvements from simply eliminating the processed foods and seed oils even though I was still eating some carbs from potatoes. About 80% carnavore by default. Carbs can offset the negative impact of stored linoleic acid in your fat reserves during its half-Life. The lesser of 2 evils.
Cattle eating grass vs grain changes gas output dramatically.
Plant-based works for many people I know. Meat work for others as well. So I’m in the middle of it all. Eat plants and steaks without processed, gmo, refined stuff. I’m good. I feel great!
Good for you. I would encourage you to give carnivore a try for 90. You may realize you can feel even better. That was my experience. I'm now 2 yrs carnivore and will never go back to plants.
@@jayhoggard92Same here. Went from horrible, standard diet to mixed, whole-food diet, and finally to carnivore. I felt better at each stage.
Nothing feels as good as when I cut out everything except animal products.
Plant based does work for many people, but children are suffering today and that is very telling. The thing with plants is they are a low dose poison that gradually robs the body of nutrients to the point we start to feel unwell and start going to doctors. Suffering can take decades to rear it's ugly head, and like many old folks, they found no relief over decades, until trying carnivore, or ketovore.
What I recommend is that if one eats plants and after some time doesn't feel well, keep the carnivore diet in mind and eat only meat.
@@jayhoggard92 Exactly, we don't know how good it feels to feed our bodies the nutrients it needs to function optimally.💪
I am so glad to see this. I find that almost all comments in these presentations are at one end of the spectrum or the other. I remain fully middle ground.
The farmers in Canada are also starting to revolt and I'm happy about it.
With great respect BUT 44:00 and following regarding ‘animals & even young children know what to eat (instinctively)’ is absolutely incorrect as all 99% of mammals (absolutely including humans) LEARN WHAT TO EAT FROM THEIR MOTHERS. Not only do young mammals learn what to eat & drink from their mothers during their early postnatal association with their mothers, but nutrients in their mothers milk ‘primes’ them to ‘know’ what to eat. Indeed, studies show that the mother’s diet during pregnancy also establishes physiologically the manner in which the new individual will metabolise food.
Proof?
What they're saying is when animals (and people) have a deficiency, they know it instinctively. We can definitely tell when something is 'missing' and we keep eating to meet that need.
Not true, my mother desperately tried to teach me to eat brussel sprouts...
Joking aside, children are genetically programmed to crave sugar and reject anything bitter. They are genetically programmed to gnaw on a meaty bone and not want a plate of leafy greens. Historically, our sugar fix was from local fruit or honey a few weeks a year, this is now our achilles heel, we now have access to sugar 24/7 and it's a disaster. It's one of the reasons people love a fruitarian diet, they are actually sugar addicts.
I believe this too. My children love to eat exactly what I ate during my pregnancy with them. I feel endless guilt because my oldest only wants dairy and carbs (creamy pasta and cheese was basically all I ate) he has so many health issues.
My middle child I ate non starchy veggies and lean proteins limited carbs. She also loves these foods but has joint issues Im guessing from the high quantity of high oxylate foods.
My last I was so nutrient deficient I craved red meat. I craved RAW red meat lol I ate very low carb and almost exclusively meat. He's my steak baby and loves steak and all animal products.
Carnivore changed my life.
Why not get Dr. John McDougall on your show? Dr. Greger, Dr. Campbell or Dr. Neal Bernard. There are hundreds of whole food, plant based doctors who have decades of science standing behind them. I won't hold my breath though.
I don't think she will even have carnivore Dr Paul Saladino on her show because he got sick on the carnivore diet and had to stop following it.
They think it's ok to eat insects because they dont find them cute.
Period.
It's sentimental, not logical.
-Jill
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How does someone such as myself find out or confirm that an article or news story is funded by an organization? You mentioned the Guardian and the animal rights agency funding their article. How do I find that information?
Whenever you have people who are convinced beyond debate on plants. What kind of supplements do we need to give them.
Please could you share the ultimate book list for meat based and regenerative healing 🤗
Everything boils down to one thing in the end. MONEY 💰💰$$$€€€£££.
I'm down with OPP yeah you know me
Get ruminate animals back on the land to improve the soil and feed us health giving meat.
When I cook for others and prepare veggies (which I don’t eat) I tell them I cooked plants for them. 😂😂😂. This makes them think a little. If you call them plants they don’t sound so healthy.
How about daily requirements for potassium and magnesium? Is it based on vegan experts?
I think a lot of Hindus and Buddhists are vegetarian. India has the most Hindus at around 1 billion…. So the number of vegetarian are probably 500 million in India alone. More like 10% of world pop is vegetarian and 2% vegan
Your comment about Bill Gates owning most of our farm land really rattled me. Where did you hear/read that? I did a search, and came up with something very different. Thank you
Great interview and information. This critical stuff and to understand that there is a Con, an agenda a diabolical plan a foot
They both said you both have to pick the right facts. Right facts for what? To suit your own beliefs, purpose?
I think they're making the point that many so-called "facts" these days are actually manufactured and paid for by industry, to prop up that industry's profit base. Of course, that's been true for centuries if not millenia. It's always been a buyer-beware kind of system we live in.
Who’s ‘they’?
The vegetarian movement started as a religious belief. When that didn't work, they switched to health, then environmental.
I see that our education system is what’s seriously flawed! Focus on the fundamentals of LIFE
NOT SUPPRESSION…
I can understand recommending adding some meat to a plant-based diet to add some vitamin B12 but it makes no sense to me to remove 4 or 5 food groups and replace them with just one food group, meat. That will create more nutrient deficiencies, a very restrictive and non-sustainable diet for most people.
You have just revealed your lack of nutritional knowledge. Your paradigm of "food groups" is propaganda, nothing more. There is enough proven nutrients in meat for any human. Get educated. Open your mind. Listen to Drs. Berry, Chaffee and Norton. Then make up your mind and good luck to you.
There are all kinds of meat. Fish, shellfish, chicken, turkey, pheasant, quail, duck, beef, lamb, pork, goat, bison, venison, the list goes on and depends on where in the world you are, then there are dairy products and eggs. You'd have to be pretty restrictive to suffer from any sort of nutritional deficiency. Humans are carnivores at heart considering we are unable to utilise cellulose which is absolutely essential for herbivores, then there's our stomach acid pH which is more akin to carrion eaters than omnivores. Plants are optional, meat is not.
I think if you feel good and are healthy who cares what anyone thinks
Seventh-day Adventists are some of the longest living people on this planet. And as a Seventh-day Adventist I truly resent being lumped in with the WHO, WEF, Bill Gates. SDA lifestyle is based on a whole plant based diet, not process foods, or bug meal. And for this author and interviewer to link us together in this fashion is disingenuous. Buxton's degree in 'creative writing' sure shines through. It is evident that it is not the plants that are the con here. And for the record the Seventh-day Adventists do not believe that in order to get to heaven you have to be plant based. I really wish you would have talked to an actual Seventh-day Adventist instead of one who is obviously bias against them for whatever reason. If you want to know more you can ask me.
Nutritional yeast is loaded with B12, eating sentient beings when there are alternatives baffles me!
Please watch some of Plant Chompers videos and check out the research he does. Just another point of view
In 22 years studying the human body on a high level i had all kinds of patients. Carnivore keto plant based vegan etc. i have never seen that level of sick like the carnivore keto etc. The ones that stayed eating that way 0% got better and alot of them are gone. The ones who went plant based about 95% got well. Those are the stats i dint make them up. And knowing what i know about the body that seems about right. Its your choice. This is not a game
What a load of ......
Love a bit of #eddieabbew
Unfortunately i think any turning point will come too late. It might be easier for SOME people to hear the anti obesity/diabetes message but the pervasive, more subtle mental health epidemic is another issue. Potential dietary influences on poor mental, somehow just never get mentioned. A very major blind spot thats compounding/supporting fallacious arguments and preventing change
Great interview! I have been researching on nutrition and making changes to my diet for some years now, mainly to treat diverse health conditions, currently using a ketogenic diet that includes mainly diverse meats, eggs, some vegetables and almost no fruit. Leaving apart all health-related arguments on what the best diet for the human species is, what I can´t come to terms with is the moral aspect of the animal-based, especially the carnivore, diets.
We have evolved to be an increasingly conscious species, guided by quite a constant set of moral values, that mostly condemns violence in all its forms. Most of us are moved by animal abuse, and we have increasingly developed emotional ties with animals. Therefore, it sounds like an evolutionary contradiction that the “proper” diet for humans is one that depends on us going against those moral tendencies, and that requires the killing of sentient beings (more or less violent depending on the way of production, but always violent), most especially in the case of mammals. This is something I struggle with, and I believe is the only real argument in favor of a plant-based (vegan/vegetarian) diet.
Do some research into the number of animals killed to grow plants commercially (many cute, fluffy ones too). You will be utterly horrified. That's where the real animal abuse is. Not in good, pasture based livestock farming.
Thank you for this thought worthy interview. However, I want to point out that everything you are saying about plant-based studies, financing, motivations, and claims apply equally to the meat, poultry, and dairy industries. Furthermore, people on a strictly plant-based diet, as well as on a mixed food diet, can live a healthy life, depending on their overall lifestyle and healthy food choices. I agree that those of us who choose a plant-based lifestyle may dominantly be concerned about animal welfare, sustainability, and environmental factors, but that is not the point I am trying to make here. It would be helpful if you had a small, well-informed panel to discuss the research and who is funding it. Otherwise, we are still being swayed to believe one narrative. Nevertheless, this information is food for thought.
All you have to do is eliminate carbs, sugars and most plants (lectins) to discover the JOY OF FEELING GREAT AGAIN!!!
It doesn't take very long either. I am almost completely pain-free and full of energy again ✨️ after decades of chronic pain and fatigue from Fibromyalgia and spinal damage from an accident.
As a long time vegetarian I experienced anemia and B12 deficiency...
You believe whatever, doesn't make it viable. My body and the progress I've made on Meat based with the occasional onion/tomato maybe a berry or two here and there, tells me all I need to know. Plants are fiber, so is wood, I don't eat it. I know that I know that I know. A child may believe their parent when they say that fire can burn you, but until it does, they do not KNOW it does. They learn immediately if they experience it. Same with food. I trust my intelligence and my body to tell me all I need to know. I choose to eat the food the original humans ate thousands of years before they learned they could raise plants to replace the meat they ate that kept them the most successful species on the planet. I'd rather be King of the jungle than a cow, they have the many stomachs to process grass, I don't.
Yes, but one is wrong the other right!
I think you need to dig a little deeper into how much influence the likes of Kelloggs and Seventh Day Aventists have had where food is concerned to understand the depths of the deception. The meat industry doesn't have as much influence as you appear to believe.
The noise isn't just from vegans and vegetarians. The Blue Zones where people live the longest are mostly plant based. As more and more research studies show the benefits of plant based diets healthcare professionals are recommending Mediterranean diets and Dash diets which are also plant based but easier to follow.
Excellent point! Believe me, I enjoyed eating meats and their products back when I did so, but since I have not consumed any of this for about a year now, I couldn’t imagine returning to that way of eating. There’s just no need for it, (secondhand protein that an animal has gotten from eating plants). I will just eat the plants myself. And when I think about the abuse that our precious animals, that God gave us as a gift to enjoy and treat with love and kindness. It makes me sick and sad to consume their DNA in such an abusive manner, as humans are doing today. This is not at all what God had intended for humankind. And yet I’m not saying it’s 100% wrong to consume animals and their products or God would’ve never allowed it to begin with. I just know the way it’s being done today is 100% wrong. And if we were back to a perfect state of God’s original purpose for the earth, which will be accomplished very soon. We will most likely go back to enjoying the earth and having our precious animals have NO fear us. Psalms 37
@@dianatrans1804have you ever asked why God himself wanted the fatty parts for himself and the priests in the temple sacrifice?
Have you been to a mediteraean country? I live there. My vegetarian friends who visited could not find a non red meat restaurant. Red meat is very much in the centre, but the plant based academics announced that it was not a meat, butter and cream diet.
Actually they are not plant based.
The Blue Zones have been thoroughly debunked many times over by the scientific community. Even if they eat mostly plant based foods they are eating a lot of animals fats. It's animal fats that contribute the most calories to their diet and that's why they are healthy. It certainly isn't the plants.
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......this is do dangerous, everyone will be deficient and sick etc.
I’ve grown suspicious but I think they want us sick. Sick people are customers for you know who and hellcare systems
I personally believe it too late and we will not be able to reverse the current attack on meat. Sadly it’s going to get worse.
Whatever we believe, is true. I refuse to believe that and will advocate until I can’t. I have two young boys that I have to say later if I tried to make this world a better place.
We may not win but we still need to try. And even still, look how many are being helped by carnivore. The movement is growing and that is enough for me to serve and share.
Lastly I highly recommend reading this: www.thestarfishchange.org/starfish-tale
If we can help even one more starfish, it is worth the fight. ♥️
WELL SAID!
Maybe. No one - NO ONE knows what the future holds for humanity on this Earth.
But with this attitude the bumblebee wouldn't fly and would have probably gone extinct long ago.
As Judy points out around the 4:00 mark, the vegans and vegetarians are HUGELY outnumbered. 2% of people are (temporary) vegans, and 5% are vegetarian. If we, the 98-95% can't figure out how to protect our rights from that tiny (and anemic) cohort, then it could only be for lack of trying.
Vote with your dollars. If beef is where the money is, then money-hungry people will start to produce beef. We had beef barons in the 1800s, and we can have them again if that's what the market demands.
The sky is the limit!
Eliminating meat? What the hell is wrong with people? All people need to do is open their eyes to see that the recommendations of eating so many carbs doesn’t work! We’ve never been fatter and sicker in the U.S. and in many other countries, as well. Even if the people aren’t fat, they’re often very sick. Southern Asia is a good example of this. Type 2 is rampant.
Because they eat junk foods,not plant based, people forget to make food at home and they only eat fatty foods and highly processed foods that make them sick
THE BACKGROUND LOOKS LIKE STEPHEN GARDNER's WITH A FEW ITEMS CHANGED...
i thought eddy has gone carnivore. last time i saw his vid, he mentioned of going carnivore.
How do you deal with the constipation issues on a carnivore diet which contains no fiber? Fiber also feeds the healthy gut bacteria which then produce health benefits. This is a big issue that was not discussed.
Because everything you just said is complete BS
There isn’t a constipation issue. For some people, fiber CAUSES constipation… this is why GI doctors often recommend a very low or no fiber diet for those who have IBS. Your information is very lopsided.
I'm carnivore and don't suffer from constipation. It's not the issue you think it is.
I had some constipation initially, but it resolved in a couple of weeks of strict carnivore with lots of fat, like butter and fatty meats. Eat more fat, it helps so much during transition. The gut bugs adjust. 🙂
I've been on carnivore for four years. I never get constipation. I'm also no longer depressed. And all my IBS disappeared.
U can get all your needed nutrients from a vegetarian diet , so I've heard , 💝🚴♀️
I've been on mine for like about 11 yrs thereabouts, but I eat once a day & it's all I'm hungry for, so mine is & has been if I can eat enough, but I exercise, 💝🚴♀️
Disney has a lot to answer for 😡. Urbanisation has meant that the only animals modern folks are exposed to are pets and cute, anthropormorphised, talking animals. Even when discussing animal welfare, the cult-of-cute values fluffy lives over rodents/insects/soil biota
What expertise does this woman have on food ? Zero. This is the pendulum swinging the other way to scare folks. Don’t be fooled by such interviews people. She isn’t qualified to give any knowledge on it.
Who's more qualified? A doctor taught a few hours of propaganda at medical school, or a writer who researched studies and conducted interviews with experts for years in order to write a book?
I completely agree! As a nurse, all the patients I see with high blood pressure, diabetes, and high cholesterol are meat eaters. So many people have 2 to 3 of these conditions. Now, I see lots of ulcerative colitis and Crohns. Be smart folks. You need fruits and veggies, and perhaps a little meat. I do eat seafood about 2 days a week for the past 35 years. I feel great with zero illness. DON'T EAT LOTS OF MEAT as the moderator ended with.
@@eslom1489 You are seeing a lot of sick people. That's your job. But they don't represent what is normal. They are sick. Those diseases are metabolic diseases.
I cured the horrendous perimenopausal symptoms I was experiencing by avoiding plant foods and greatly increasing my intake of animal fats. I was in a bad state but am now back to my normal self. Grains are the worst for my hormones. Was I just supposed to suffer? I'm not the only woman to discover this either.
Been vegetarian largely vegan for 45 years. Always avoided the refined ultra processed food industry suggestions for the most part
I’m 63 now
I have no diseases and my blood work is remarkably good. A1c 5.4
The plant based foods are healing in many ways. But so many vegetarians year in crazy ways !
Studies show repeatedly one after the next that a plant based artery can revert arteriosclerosis.
The big cohort studies of Adventists have shown that people on a vegetarian diet are more protected against cancer and live longer. I respect the criticism but this is just talk. Studies actually are not discussed This presentation is devoid of science and of heart data. You should conduct studies first and show the plant based is not protective before you come up with your ideas and suppositions. Just talk will lead you nowhere. I enjoy most of the presentations by this nutriiionist. This one left me baffled. And I am a professor and read the literature assiduously. I’ve also been a health educator and naturopath for decades. I’ve seen the power of adequate nutrition and amazing recoveries. The narrative that fills this presentation is incomprehensible to me and lamentably biased
Agree
The only comparison study that would be valid is comparing long term 100% plant based eater to 100% meat eaters. Not the typical misleading studies that compare vegans to eaters of the standard American diet who eat some meat but lots of processed garbage. And as you think yourself so intelligent, you obviously know that a vegan diet is deficient in many important nutrients. But you may not grasp these things as 45 years of veganism has resulted in inferior brain development. And I bet you are a skinny frail elderly man with little muscle mass. But you eat what you want, just don't dictate to me what I should be eating.
Interestingly she just mentioned studies that were done but blocked from publishing for decades because they didn't support the plant based Ansel Keys mantra. There is a giant problem with science not having integrity when funded by corporations and governments with an agenda. We like to think our science in uncorruptible, but that's just not the case.
It appears that you might be biased as well
@@lifechoices7869 bias has to do with preferences perceptions and opinions. Facts trumps all that. You cannot deny facts. But you cannot turn a blind eye to all the research demonstrating over and over what happens when people change to plant based diets both prospective and retrospective studies. I cannot deny what I have seen in my patients either. Reality is what it is not what we fancy it to be. This talk was just talk it provided no substantiation from the scientific literature. It was the worst demonstration I’ve seen in a long time of trying to raise s vacuous argument.
I understand the "vegan honeymoon", but can anyone truly "thrive" on a vegan diet?
For me, yes. Vegan since 2017. Low thyroid (Hashimoto's) reversed. Raynaud's reversed. Allergies gone. Runny nose gone. Better mobility (less stiff), weight control. I always had low iron, that's gone now too.
Now I eat no junk food, only whole unprocessed plant foods. Lots and lots of dark leafy greens. Flax for plant based omega 3. No oil. I have never felt better. It is not always easy because I have to eat out of my own kitchen, but it has changed my life for the better. I would never go back.
When I was eating meat and eggs and cheese it was local and organic and I was getting sicker and sicker.
I do what works.
95% of the world is not plant based? What? I think you misspoke. Most of the world IS plant based. All the foods people eat and drink come from plants! Only a small amount of people are meat based, namely those who eat the carnivore way. 🙂
I think you missed the point. They mean exclusively plant based.
@@LyndaHill That'd be vegan.
@@lf7065 Yep. Vegetarian or vegan. One just has to think, really.
88 million Vegans in the world. 3/4 are females in India. In UK, 2.5 million (4.7%) are Vegan. The US, 13.4 million. 1-2% of the world is Vegan.
@@lf7065 I think you need to look up what 'plant based' means. It means eating only plants. Vegan is an ethical choice to eat only plants, so all vegans are plant based, but not all plant based eaters are vegan.
ahah jayne is clueless about the vitamin A con... and judy nods going along with it, don't tell garrett hey ... ;)
You are the one that is clueless. Plants have no vitamin A. They have beta carotene which is not the same. Get your facts straight before displaying your ignorance.
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