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Kickboxer (1989) Retrospective / Review
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Kickboxer (1989) Retrospective / Review
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Oliver Harper to me the quest was worth to watch
Oliver Harper Please review some classic martial arts movies like drunken master and snake in the eagle shadow and secret rivals.
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White man shows his superiority over Thai people by beating them with their own martial arts.
Thai fighter is made to be a cartoon villain with contrived writing.
I guess this was made 8 years ago....I dont know what that means....but you know someONE can't look oriental... They could look more Asian I suppose....or someone could want someone to look less that way. Actually, you know I ll do the research and go back adn make sure you weren't quoteing someone. Looks like you sure weren't. Anywho, you can google stuff or whatever and figure out what words mean. That rug can be more oriental, but people...not so much good try! I ve seen a lot of your videos now, and to be honest whenever you say something that isn't movie related you come off a huge douche! Cheers.
You can always count on a small old Asian man to teach you martial arts.
I learned from a big Italian guy.
Wax on, wax off..
He even taught me martial arts whilst I was cleaning his car. It was no good in an actual fight I had though, I kept dropping the cloth.
My father-in-law is a small Asian man, and he taught me to keep an eye on him at all times, so he doesn't inadvertently destroy something around my house.
One of the best soundtrack ever!
15:36 im pretty sure Kurt was “losing the fight” on purpose because he was prohibited from fighting at his full potential and was instructed to lose to Tong Po or his brother would be killed. Once his brother was freed, it didn’t “renew his confidence” but allowed him to not hold back since the thugs no longer had any leverage over him...
I always seen this as a series of 3 movies. First Blood Sport, this movie, and The Quest.
How does he go from being Jewish in Bloodsport, to being Belgian in this one?
Kickboxer 2 is awesome
@@ashscott6068 they don't have to be sequels to be a series. (Also, where in Blood Sport does it say that Dux is Jewish?)
@@RonJohn63 lmao if thats true i never knew lmao
Nice review! I think Kickboxer and Bloodsport are not perfect movies (by far), but there is 1 thing that makes them great: both films got soul, unlike the sequels...
wedgeGTX not soul... SOUL.
ERIC'S VOICE IS DUBBED?? My whole life is a lie.
I think his acting is dubbed too.
Word up lol
Yeah I just realized his voice was dubbed as well. Had no idea!!!
There’s 2 versions I have seen, one with his voice at it was filmed and one dubbed
@@AriaHoran He done better than any of us to be fair.
I used to watch Kickboxer so much that I turned down the volume and recited all the words as the movie played on. Still one of my favorite JCVD films. I cannot get enough of these cheese movies. As a kid they inspired me to always go train some more.
This was me with double impact 😅😅😅
After a night of partying and drinking I decided to put this movie on and my god it was so relaxing although I've never visited Asia I love everything about the culture. I was constantly thinking how it must've been for a fellow Belgian like JCVD to have been there in those jungles and cities to make these movies. Such a big nostalgia filled night for me reminding me of the time I watched this with my dad as a kid.
Probably I was in 4th or 5th grade when I watched this movie. The scene of Tong Po kicking the pillar blew my mind.
Another great review. Hands down the best movie reviews on RUclips. I grew up on Van Damme and Kickboxer and Bloodsport are a staple of my childhood and movies I watch several times a year.
Thanks buddy for your feedback!. Have a good Christmas!
Kurt didn't just suddenly turn it around because his brother was there to cheer him on. At the beginning of the fight he was threatened by Freddy Lee telling him that if he made it a competitive fight they would kill Eric whom they kidnapped. His brother showing up meant the threat was no more and Kurt could now fight Tong Po to his full potential which he did and won.
Please do review KING OF THE KICKBOXERS starring Loren Avedon
Great review but only one point to make. Kurts brother doesnt show up for moral support. Tong po's people were keeping him for insurance so kurt would lose. When kurt sees that hes safe he no longer has to hold back. Doesn't explain why Tong Po becomes a bitch who doesnt fight back.
Noob Saibot we’ll it was already established that Kurt could beat Tong Po no problem hence the reason why they kidnapped his brother, I don’t think Tong Po was that good it was just that he was strong and brutal in his fighting which his brother probably wasn’t expecting and he was way overconfident as well
@@JoelsCreed141 yea if you watch Tong Po’s fighting...he isn’t THAT good. He wasn’t trash by anymeans but certainly wasn’t unfuckwitable. He was just extremely strong and intimidating. Skill/technique wise he was lacking. Eric lacked the durability to withstand his attacks. Kurt had the technique to beat him and gained greater durability due to Xian’s training.
one of my favorite films as a kid. Hey, Oliver, I assume you've seen "King of the Kickboxers," being a Billy Blanks fan.
You are not Thai! How do you know the custom?
Ash Scott I don’t understand.
@@ashscott6068 what custom do you mean custard cream biscuits
There’s one small thing you failed to mention, Kurt’s brother was kidnapped and threatened with death if he didn’t throw the fight, Eric didn’t show up for support, he got rescued by Xian and they took him to the ring to let Kurt know that he was free which allowed him to beat the crap out of Tong Po.
This must be the best review of this movie on RUclips.
Freddie Lee disliked the review. Awesome review Oille. I want to watch the flim again later on tonight.
Hahahaha
Never knew the brother's voice was dubbed all these years...now 18:33 makes so much sense haha
This is a favourite for me and my friends to watch with a few beers. You really were inspired by the same films in your youth it seems. It's a great pleasure to follow your channel and I'm never disappointed. Thanks Again Oliver.
Please do "Crying Freeman", was a pretty cool 90s action flick :)
Great review Oliver! I've been watching your reviews almost every week. I grew up on bloodsport and kickboxer (I'm 40 now) so I loved VD... My favorite is lionheart. Even to this day, when I bro have to chance to imitate VD dance moves, we always have a good laugh!,
+cm legend Thanks for your frequent feedback on my work!. Yes I will be reviewing Lionheart this year and The Quest.
is the endscore at the end of your comms? I mean the synth tune
when are you doing the Quest?
There were at least two versions of this movie. The version my old man got me on VHS back then was a heavily cut version. I didn't realise until 1996 when they aired the movie on Ch5 one night. The end fight was completely different. It was ott and I can see why they cut it for VHS
this movie is basically a better bloodsport in everything minus how awesome and intimidating bolo looks
But Tong Po is no slouch.
Saw Kickboxer when I was 11-12, and loved it. I remember going crazy as the soundtrack brought those training scenes and the Final Fight to life. Its got some overall brilliant,atmospheric music. Any time Im on holiday somewhere exotic,or even in some eastern-exotic looking building, that soundtrack pops into my head. Gotta love Stan Bush's "Fight for Love" aswell!!
That hilarious dance scene is even better at its end,when Zian reveals to Kurt that the lads attacked him in the first place,because Zian went round tellin' them that "They no good fighter,and that their mother have sex with mules!!!""
That deleted scene you showed was actually in the version I rented a lot on video at the time,and wondered why it wasnt in any other version I saw since.
Excellent,excellent examination on the movie,man. Its great to look back at things like this from certain times of youth,and like it still,for what it was and is, without "growing out of it", as friends of mine have!!!
Shang tsung is the manager for tong po in later movies, and cousin cody from Step by Step is the new kickboxer
can you do a Crying Freeman (the Marc Dacascos liveaction version) retrospective? It's right up your alley
I think the reason he has the objects dropped on his stomach from high distance is to be able to withstand the brutal blows to the midsection that he takes from Tong Po in the final fight… because he’s able to withstand those blows that would otherwise decimate most opponents, he’s able to save the energy for when he’s able to make the big comeback and win.
Always loved this and Bloodsport as a kid with Cyborg being a close 3rd. Thanks for reviewing this!
Fantastic review Oliver Harper
I learn something new with every review.
I could literally sit and watch your channel all day :-)
Merry Christmas! Looking forward to gremlins as well.
Thank you very much!. Merry Christmas to you to!
Merry christmas to you, oliver. Im new to your channel. I have subscribed. My name is tristan, and i think you do excellent work!!
***** Welcome to my channel sir! Have a great Christmas Tristan!
Great review ! I always loved this movie, along with Lionheart and Bloodsport. My buddy and I would watch these movies when we were kids and just loved them. I never really noticed before but the soundtrack is awesome,, with the faux Asian sounds and 80s synth, its a total classic.
Crazy that Dennis Chan was only 40 at the time of filming, I really thought he was much older than that.
It's the cheesy big brother to The Karate kid lol
Can't believe you reviewed Kickboxer Oliver. One of my all time favourite lol
The music during the training scenes is memorable.
Should review King of The Kickboxers
Even the cheesiest 80s movies were still better structured, love how they properly set up every character in this film examples 1) The master shows the student why hes the master in the very first scene by almost kicking him in the face 6 times before he would have landed, 2) you hear loud thumping menacing noises that reveal the guy practicing by doing something that would break any or our legs, there was a lot of thought behind this film. Great review !
I have a VHS copy with the hospital scene. It has the original audio all the way through. It also has a weird cut where Kurt slams that dude's head into the table in the bar, and 2 chunks are cut out of the final fight with Tong Po. In all cases, the music skips where the cut is made, so it was done after the movie was mastered...for some bizarre reason I can't fathom
The jump cuts were UK video censorship. They cut out the ear clap from the bar fight, Van Damme being pummelled by Tong Po, blood streaming from Po’s mouth, a load of kicks to Po’s head and a close up of a face kick. The cuts were really badly made and completely obvious. The DVD restores the violence cuts but the ‘toothpicks’ scene is now absent.
As a kid I remember hating this movie, especially when compared to 'Bloodsport' which I thought was far superior. But as I got older this 80's cheese has gained a new appreciation from me. It's the type of entertainment that you can shut your brain off for a while and just have a good time. Thanks for the review.
MR OLIVER HARPER , you are my hero, GOOD JOB WITH YOUR REVIEWS
Can you please do a review on Double Impact. Underrated Van Damme movie
you reviews bleed like mylee . always hit the spot
NOOOOOOO!!!!!!
a couple of JCVDs old movies were named Karate Tiger in other countries... which is probably why this one was
Kickboxer was my go to movie when I was a kid... all that ninja stuff going on the early 90s had me going crazy over it not to mention universal soldier was another good for me
This movie is a cheesy classic but love every minute of it.
Dennis Chan (Xian) is a Hong Kong film actor mostly known for comedic roles so he's definitely no martial arts master. I think "Streets of Siam" is up there with "Fight to survive". I too felt like there was really no kickboxing in the film and always wondered "Why is it called Kickboxer when there really isn't any kickboxing in it? It could've been call Master Fighter or something". The reason why Van Damme fights were so fluent in "Knock Off" was because that movie had Hong Kong action choreographers, as did "Double Team" and "No Retreat No Surrender".
Awesome review on one of my favourite films. A remake has been reported to have JCVD as the trainer and it is meant to star WWE wrestler Batista and MMA fighter Georges St Pierre as well.
Too late, that's already out, and yes, JCVD is the trainer, Batista is in it as the antagonist and Alain Mousi(who played Nash is Street Fighter Resurrection) is the protagonist and this movie is a soft Reboot.
Love this movie NEVER gets old. A solid fuckin 10.
Watching this in 2022 I first saw this when I was a kid in the theaters. I just want to say thank you for making this review because both your love for the movie and the art that it presented as well as your analysis was spot on. I'm actually going to buy that soundtrack right now on Amazon, lol.
Tong Po still scares the crap out of me to this day
Great review! Keep em coming!
I love the hilarious dance scene, the homoerotic scenes with his bro and tong po makes an excellent villain!
Have you ever thought of doing a retrospective on blood sport series and blaxploitation films?
Happy 30th anniversay Kickboxer!
When he kicks the guys in the bar and the junk box stops i used to rewind that part as a kid...
One of my favourite martial art films and one of the best Van Damme films... the yare doing a remake with Van Damme as the mentor.... but nothing can beat the original with Van Damme at his physical peak.
One thing the film failed at is that Kickboxing was not invented in Thailand. Well not the art. The art itself Kickboxing was invented by the Japanese. it's a hybrid of Karate and Muay Thai. Thailand only invented the sports varient of kickboxing not the art.
Rewatched this recently and i never enjoyed it as much as Bloodsport but was pleasantly surprised how good it was after all these years and i really enjoyed it. I think its less cheesy than Bloodsport which i also rewatched but not quite as good.
the fght in the bar, i used to remind that oart when i was a kid. .and the last kick he does at the end.
Great review Oliver, have a great Christmas.
Cheers Leon! You to!
They done those crazy sequels with lots of films then like best of the best and american ninja, pretty crazy stuff as most if not all were straight to video.
He was so damn cool as a kid born in 86'
Also, Bolo needs some love. That badass scared me til this day
i do remember that deleted scene being on the video release i could be wrong but i remember the worthless toothpicks line, and personally i don't see any problem with his voice or his deliverance in that scene, strange that they did dub him.
Congrats Oliver for another terrific review of an 80's classic. At least in Chile many of the Cannon Films (distributed or co finance) movies were show in "A" Theaters which let them receive the same treatment of other features produced by major Hollywood studios (such as Paramount, Universal or WB). And it was a so awesome the publicity (in TV, radio and newspaper) that sometimes you couldn't get a ticket because they were all sold out. In today standards with so specific limits between "A" class movies and the direct to video ones, all these "B" films made a significant contribution in what was fun, and how could it be improve to reach a wider audience. And is no accidente that many of today's top directors pay tribute or copy (with a notorious upgrade) some action pieces taken directly from classics like "Kickboxer" and "Bloodsport".
When I worked as a projectionist my manager used to run a Cannon Cinema and he said all the Cannon releases would get the biggest screen while the other releases by other studios such as Warners and Fox would be shoved in the small auditoriums despite those films being miles better! lol.
that scene in the hospital was always in the UK vhs version.
I think Knock Off is his most underrated film , really enjoyed it.
Absolute Classic
Dennis Alexio was dubbed yes but it wasn't someone else it was him dubbing himself as his original voice was not strong enough to use who knows.
The final fight is the best choreographed battle in film history, Tong Po had to do nothing more than look dumbfounded and stop moving to receive hits.
Yes, the Kickboxer remake is in post production now.
Slight correction: the Buddha statue in SFII is (supposedly) based on the one in Ayutthaya not Bangkok. It certainly looks more like it.
I saw the deleted scene with his brother in hospital on bravo maybe more than 15 years ago but hadn't seen it on VHS or DvD
Hello Oliver. The deals between the distributors and the owners of the cinemas are very similar between one country and another. For example, Cannon (and the many of the movies that they distribute) have a deal with the second biggest movie cinemas in Chile (Socine) and they have a very curious marketing campaign. First they opened the movie in the big screen and near the first month of exhibition they release in VHS, and four months later you could watch it at the national channel which was seen in nearly the 98% of my country. While they were doing this thing, WB and Disney have a deal with a very small distributor (CCN) and Fox - Tristar films were were shown by the biggest movie holding we have in Chile, Conate. The funny side of this was the scenario for UIP (that have the rights over Paramount and Universal)... it was distributed by the same company that release the Cannon ones and they receive the "limited release" theaters and you have to wait between 8 months and a year to get them in VHS... that were release by a company called Video Chile and that was owned by Conate which also distribute Warner and Disney titles. So, at least for a whole generation here in Chile Cannon Films seem to be at same level as the biggest Hollywood blockbuster although you knew that this was a bit strange.
Just wanted to say I'm loving your channel and I'm doing the Patreon thing. So my 2 cents on Van Damme: you don't really address it, but Van Damme's ring fight movies were really popular in Asia and led to a late 80s/early 90s ring fight resurgence that laid dormant since the 70s. I've seen too many HK movies so titles blur together, but in a lot of lower end B and C-list movies ring fights/kickboxing was either a subplot or a centerpiece, with titles like DEATH CAGE with Robin Shou, DREAMING THE REALITY with Yukari Oshima, and TEARS OF THE KICKBOXER starring I-can't-remember. to name a few You could also throw in the stabs by Ng See Yuen's Seasonal Films productions to do more Western-friendly kickboxing movies like Loren Avedon in KING OF THE KICKBOXERS, the NO RETREAT, NO SURRENDER series, and the hilariously bad SUPERFIGHTS which all attempted to combine HK-style fight direction with direct sound recording so the viewer could savor every terrible line reading in the original English. Good times...
thanks for putting this up on my birthday olly
Happy Birthday Kyle! Christmas in a few days so double the presents lol
Oliver Harper thanks man and a early merry Christmas to you duncan and rich
Always loved this movie, very 80s plot fighting for his brothers revenge/honor. Along with Bloodsport probably got more people into martial arts than ever thought, great soundtrack too.
i absolutely love how you review many of Van dammes films. Any chance of "THE QUEST" being reviewed? Keep up the great work mate!! :)
The version I saw, had the hospital scene. It also had all of the original dialogue, before it was dubbed. There were a lot of Alexio's lines where you couldn't make out what the fuck he was saying. It also had a butchered cut of the final fight, with a chunk cut out of the middle, and there's a jump-cut after Kurt slams that dude's face into the table in the bar, where they cut out a second of violence.
Dennis Alexio's voice was different in the VHS I remember watching many times over. I think the first voice was actually better than the dub.
Van Damme was the main villain in "No retreat, no surrender", which was called "Karate Tiger" over seas. They made a "No retreat, no surrender part II"(which Van Damme wasn't in) before Kickboxer came out, so I'm assuming it was called "Karate Tiger 3" to appeal to fans of that franchise.
They also made a "No retreat, no surrender 3" released the same year as Kickboxer featuring the main actor from the second movie. None of these films had anything to do with each other, but they're all entertaining, and feature legit martial artists(corny acting, but who cares).
I loved the soundtrack of this movie.
You must review Only the Strong with Mark Dacascos; I freakin' love that 90s Gem of a fighting movie.
You should do a review on Only The Strong, American Ninja.
This my movie here I think this the movie I learn how the fight n learn karate this n bloodsport n it kinda funny seeing van damme n tong po dancing in the breakin movie n plus van damme doing his famous drunk fighting dance n plus he did it on one of those talk shows too n also the main character in the remake do it too lol 😎😆😎😆
Grew up on Van Damme & Schwarzenegger so this is my shit right here lol.
I have to say I always did & always will prefer Bloodsport to Kickboxer but I cannot count the amount of times I have seen this film. I remember seeing Kickboxer 2 in my younger years & can't remember a thing about it apart from Van Damme being replaced by his 'brother' lol, I have seen the other sequels in W.H Smith of all places in the early 00's in their bargain buckets but never bothered with any of them as they looked shit just from the covers.
If You, Rich & Duncan ever do another special with an intro skit I want this movie spoofed with you Ollie doing the Van Damme dance hahaha.
I still quote "but can he move like me?" from this movie every once in a while and then laugh at how bad his brother got beat down.
If I remember well, the deleted scene was on my VHS cassette, which was in German
AHHH! I KNEW I'd seen that hospital scene. The first time I saw this, that scene was in it, but then suddenly it wasn't. And when I told people about it, they said there was no such scene. I thought it was some kind of Mandela effect shit, but that's deffo the scene. I remember the "...kick the doors off a '59 Caddy" bit
Great review! agree 100%, cool film back in the day but now is a good film to sit down and have a laugh to. love 80s films and this one of the best!
Great as always, Merry Christmas Oliver!!!
Merry Christmas to you bud!
Great Review mate, and yes I loved this film as a kid too, but looking back on it nowdays I can't help but chuckle, as for the cheesy stan bush songs I must confess i love them, at least they are catchy and Bush's ability as a musician shines through.
Btw: the "Deleted" hospital visit scene was included on the version i watched, It was on the palace home video version.
Hey Oliver, Kickboxer was my introduction to Van Damme too. Keep up the great work!
The remake of, "Kickboxer," is going to release in 2016.
WOW, you have bought back so many memories with this film, thank you :)
Me and my brother tried training by kicking trees after this movie.
We were like 12 and 14....lol
Spot on.
Grew up watching this movie. Awesome. I just watched it two days ago as I introduced this movie to my 5-years old son! BTW, I named him Jean-Claude (true story) bc I am a big fan ✌🏻 Great video, Oliver.
P.S. I had no idea Alexio’s voice was dubbed!
After so many years, so many viewings to find out Eric's voice is dubbed over that's crazy... And I always thought master zian was an old guy he must have been 30 or less based on how he looks today on imdb :)
In any case they will never make movies like this again. We were lucky to see them as kids on VHS!
Master Zian was a old guy, the actor Dennis Chan was a old guy. The photo on IMDb is not him. It's been confirmed many many times. Also in regards to Eric's voice, if you grew up with the film on VHS and on TV, those versions of the film were Eric's original and much better voice. The horrible dubbed over versions of his voice are only on the DVD and Blu-Ray releases.
Very very good review. I came to see if somebody noticed the fact that he doesn't fight the style of muay thai. Not only that, his training is far from what a muay thai training looks like, except for the kicking of the trees of course. But those katas in the setting sun are definitely not muay thai, more like karate.
Ahhh thus began my love affair with Van Damme and 90’s B action movies
excellent film review oliver! i havent seen one on kickboxer before, the dubbing of the brother was hilarious!
Nice reviews, man. Been watching like 25 of these things today.
You got the premise of the ending all wrong.
Eric doesn't just turn up to offer support, he was being held hostage. Its the very reason Kurt is losing the fight, because he was told to lose or they will kill he brother. Then when he sees Eric is safe, Kurt start to fight properly, that is why Tong Po seemingly become useless, because Kurt was not actually trying to win the fight before that point.