This Scared Me. Huey Newton & His Black Panthers Justified Violence Against Police. 1960s

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  • Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
  • As a college student in the early 1960s, I supported the efforts of Martin Luther King & believed in Integration that was faith-based and non-violent. By 1967 (when this documentary was filmed) I found myself unable to engage with Huey Newton and the Black Panthers. What they were talking about was violent and segregationist - removing people like me from participation. And phrases like "the revolution has come - off the pig…" seemed to me like an unwise fantasy. I supported nonviolent protests and participated in some. But fighting "the system" violently not only seemed wrong to me but more importantly, could never work. And it hasn't so far for any American group in recent memory that tried violence.
    This documentary clip presents some of their thinking and what Newton said back then about the police and about American society.
    Huey Newton was raised in Monroe Louisiana. As a result of local lynchings, his family moved to Oakland California. They were close-knit and poor. As a teenager, Newton was arrested several times for criminal offenses including gun possession and vandalism at age 14.
    As a student of the Merritt College, Newton met Bobby Seale and the two founded the Black Panther Party for Self Defense in October 1966. The Party was a left-wing organization advocating for the right of self-defense for black people. The Party's beliefs were greatly influenced by Malcolm X.
    The party's political goals included better housing, jobs, and education for African-Americans. The group believed that violence-or the threat of it-might be needed to bring about social change. They sometimes made news with a show of force, as they did when they entered the California Legislature fully armed in order to protest a gun bill aimed at disarming them.
    Newton would frequent pool halls, bars and other locations deep in the Black community where people gathered in order to organize and recruit. While recruiting, Newton sought to convince those around him about his view of the legality of self-defense. In Newton's autobiography, Revolutionary Suicide, he writes, "Before I took Criminal Evidence in school, I had no idea what my rights were."
    The Panthers started social programs in Oakland, including founding the Oakland Community School, which provided high-level education to children. Other Panther programs included the Free Breakfast for Children Program, dances for teenagers and training in martial arts. Under his leadership the Party ran 60 community support programs including food banks, medical clinics, sickle cell anemia tests, prison busing for families of inmates, legal advice seminars, clothing banks, housing cooperatives, and their own ambulance service. Newton used his position to welcome women and LGBT people into the party, holding the belief that homosexuals "might be the most oppressed people".
    In 1967 Newton was involved in a shootout which led to the death of police officer John Frey. In 1968 he was convicted of voluntary manslaughter for Frey's death and sentenced to 2 to 15 years in prison. In May 1970 his conviction was reversed.
    In 1970 after his release from prison, Newton received an invitation to visit the People's Republic of China. Newton made the trip in late September 1971 with fellow Panthers. At every Chinese airport he landed in, Newton was greeted by thousands of people displaying signs that said "we support the Black Panther Party, down with U.S. imperialism." Newton described China as "a free and liberated territory with a socialist government".
    On August 6, 1974, Kathleen Smith, a 17-year-old Oakland native and child prostitute was shot. According to the prosecutor handling the case, Newton shot Smith after a casual exchange on the street during which she referred to him as "Baby", a childhood nickname he hated. Newton is also alleged to have assaulted his tailor, Preston Callins after Callins called him "Baby".
    Newton & his girlfriend (later his wife) Gwen Fontaine then fled to Havana Cuba, where they lived until 1977, which prevented further prosecution. Newton returned to the United States in 1977 to stand trial for the murder of Smith & the assault on Callins.
    In October 1977, three Black Panthers attempted to assassinate Crystal Gray, a key prosecution witness in Newton's upcoming trial. Unbeknownst to the assailants, they attacked the wrong house & the occupant returned fire. Newton denied any involvement or knowledge of this & said that it "might have been the result of overzealous party members".
    In 1982, Newton was accused of embezzling $600,000 of state aid to the Panther-founded Oakland Community School. In the wake of the embezzlement charges, Newton disbanded the Black Panther Party.
    In 1989 Huey Newton was murdered in Oakland by Tyrone Robinson, a member of the Black Guerrilla Family.
    If you found this video clip of interest, I ask for your support by clicking the Super Thanks button below the video screen.
    Thank you
    David Hoffman filmmaker

Комментарии • 243

  • @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
    @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker  Год назад +9

    For another provocative perspective on what it was like to be a black American take a look at what this guy says - ruclips.net/video/nPBttI52sPw/видео.html

    • @jamesmccarthy5086
      @jamesmccarthy5086 Год назад +2

      Thank you

    • @wheelieblind
      @wheelieblind Год назад

      Here... so you can stop being so scared 🙂
      ruclips.net/video/mzZTLT8WpcQ/видео.html

    • @AsylumDCLXVI
      @AsylumDCLXVI Год назад +1

      Based off that first paragraph in the description, it doesn't seem like you were very wise in college.

    • @donalddavis6689
      @donalddavis6689 Год назад

      Where Are The New Black Panthers Party Of 2023 At!! They Have To Come And Stand Strong Before GOD / And Do The Work That - Huey Newton Our Black Panther Hero Left Off.. R.I.P. Heuy Newton And To The Real Black Panthers Of The 60's. And 70:s .. AMEN Wonderful Video ⭐⭐.

  • @UrObsessed2
    @UrObsessed2 Год назад +143

    What a beautiful piece of history caught on film. This group was necessary. Especially at that time.. they helped to bring people that didn’t have a voice (African American people, low income WHITE people, Latino people, Asian people) …they wanted all All power to disenfranchised people. Especially African American people who have been treated unfairly. Thank you for filming this and sharing this today 🖤✊🏾

    • @Cuban20
      @Cuban20 Год назад +27

      And we need them again today. They have never been more relevant

    • @eemoogee160
      @eemoogee160 Год назад

      Check out The Black Revolutionary Network here on RUclips!

    • @thefirm4606
      @thefirm4606 Год назад +23

      Please don’t forget the First Nations too. They paid so dearly

    • @johnnyrottenpiss
      @johnnyrottenpiss Год назад

      @@agingerbeard weak people committed violence on helpless people who were discriminated against. It's only a matter of time before people fight fire with fire.

    • @johnhouston
      @johnhouston Год назад +23

      @@agingerbeard I think you meant to say violence as a means to oppress people is wrong. Violence used in self defense is never wrong.

  • @Siegefya
    @Siegefya Год назад +24

    Things literally haven't changed much since the 1960's in this country. My pops was in the airforce during Vietnam deployed there twice and he even says the same thing, I asked him because when I watch docs like this I see a lot of the same problems they had then that we do now. Oh and forgot, excellent work on this David, thank you for uploading.

    • @julianG1212
      @julianG1212 Год назад +2

      How is that true today we have video games and internet?

    • @jonathanguzman3044
      @jonathanguzman3044 Год назад

      @@julianG1212 were still living under white rule in america and abroad that's how things haven't changed much

    • @rockyclick371
      @rockyclick371 Год назад +1

      things actually Have very much changed

    • @Siegefya
      @Siegefya Год назад +2

      @@rockyclick371 not really. Nothing new under the sun anyways.

    • @johntiger5
      @johntiger5 Год назад +1

      If you would have told me after 9/11 ,and after the United States invaded Afghanistan looking for Osama Bin Ladin, then invaded Iraq to capture Saddam Hussein. That, the next president after President Bush would be named Barrak Hussein Obama. I would have told you that you were nuts. For better or worse, things have very much changed after 911. Peace.

  • @thefirm4606
    @thefirm4606 Год назад +25

    Such precious and important pieces on your channel that constantly blow my mind. Thank you for sharing these great historical works.

  • @peepance1799
    @peepance1799 Год назад +55

    Justice, freedom and equality by any means necessary.

  • @Nerdcoresteve1
    @Nerdcoresteve1 Год назад +72

    The man was only talking about self defense. How can anyone reasonably say the police weren't, at least for our black siblings, and especially at that time, an armed gang that brutalized an innocent community that had every right to fight back.
    Plus, I'm reasonably confident I wouldn't have gotten a free lunch program if The Black Panthers hadn't started it first. 🙂

    • @JenniferSerenity
      @JenniferSerenity Год назад +18

      Exactly!!! The breakfast program in the US public schools was modeled off of the Black Panther's Breakfast program. Some kids who grew up in the party are writing & publishing books! I'm waiting for one of them to be released next year - Black Panther Princess (Ericka Suzanne Brown - author)

    • @seleluxout
      @seleluxout Год назад +5

      Thank you for saying this. I’m glad some people in this comment section understand that the police only protected selectively. Everyone else, especially black communities, were terrorized.

    • @gabe5100
      @gabe5100 Год назад +1

      was it self defense when he shot and killed a girl for calling him the wrong name? And is that someone you look up to?

    • @jaybeevs8612
      @jaybeevs8612 Год назад

      @@gabe5100 Yeah police never lie about what influential black people did and the FBI never fabricates evidence, we should take what they say at face value!!!

    • @gabe5100
      @gabe5100 Год назад

      @@jaybeevs8612 Do you have any reason to believe they’re lying other than they’ve done it before? That’s not sufficient evidence. You should make sense before start using sarcasm.

  • @CFarnwide
    @CFarnwide Год назад +17

    Mr. Hoffman… I always find your description just as fascinating as the video itself! I will continue to read it first then watch the video so I always have the proper context. Thanks!

  • @bernierohlik3079
    @bernierohlik3079 Год назад +15

    Mr.Hoffman your footage is invaluable to knowledge for future generations. Humanity owes you for this. Best wishes.

  • @rbiznezz2
    @rbiznezz2 Год назад +68

    Big respect to Huey P Newton. Rest in Peace and thank you.

    • @kmack657
      @kmack657 Год назад

      Newton was a psychopath. Look up what Elaine Brown (interim BPP leader when Huey was exiled to Cuba) had to say about him and how violent he was.

  • @k1ah468
    @k1ah468 Год назад +44

    Understandable but without the likes of Newton or Malcom X, MLK wouldn't have been able to accomplish nearly as much as he did for the civil rights movement.

    • @kmack657
      @kmack657 Год назад

      2 were Marxist and the other was a Communist

  • @Cuban20
    @Cuban20 Год назад +87

    The Black Panthers were not "segregationist" in fact they had a lot of white people in their ranks. And they advocated self defense. Which is more than appropriate considering the Cops were and continue to be a Domestic Terrorist Force. So I don't know why this scared you.

    • @mikehunt3420
      @mikehunt3420 Год назад +14

      Imagine how scared these communities were and continue to be? Not sure what you are scared of. I doubt your community was at war with the police for decades lol. Smh

    • @thecrippledrummer
      @thecrippledrummer Год назад +1

      Oh yeah. They were actually a bunch of lovable teddy bears! Moron

    • @thefirm4606
      @thefirm4606 Год назад +15

      Think of all the negative stereotypes, put them in a time where legally they had no recourse, wrap that up in the fear and paranoia of the states at that time.
      You can’t watch these with today’s eyes, you have to see it from then.

    • @mikloridden8276
      @mikloridden8276 Год назад +2

      This is true back then. But The new ones though are very segregationist though and only accept other colors if they are woman. That’s why you see all the White, Asian and Hispanic girls with African American men today a projection of “you aren’t superior there for we get your woman”.

    • @rebecca8866
      @rebecca8866 Год назад

      Fr the cops truly are a domestic terrorist force. For everyone of every race and color and body type. But they have their biases and treat some worse than others, if we don't stand up for our brothers and sisters, then no one will be left to stand up for us, the privileged people who are lucky enough to experience less brutality from cops compared to minorities and others have to stand up for those who are suffering because at the end of the day, if we as a society allow the cops to get away with brutality then it's only a matter of time before they treat everyone like that including privileged rich people and white people etc.

  • @tamarrajames3590
    @tamarrajames3590 Год назад +11

    The Black Panthers did a lot more than form a paramilitary group. They started food programs within their own communities, and determined to take care of their own because nobody else was. The police back slap was not swift…but it was violent and unequivocal. Thank you David, this needs to be remembered.🖤🇨🇦

    • @madashell7224
      @madashell7224 Год назад

      Mutual Aid is just starting again. Following in the footsteps of the Black Panthers. It came out of the Bernie Sanders campaign. When he betrayed the "revolution" many ppl realized we have to do it ourselves instead of putting time and money into political campaigns. Federal and state governments are already owned by the rich. We really do need a revolution, but that won't happen without community support.

    • @kmack657
      @kmack657 Год назад +1

      They were able to do this with much assistance from white Hollywood thespians (ie. Marlon Brando, Jane Fonda, Jack Nicholson, etc.)

    • @kamilebrahimoff3589
      @kamilebrahimoff3589 Год назад +2

      Yes, Huey Newton started the free breakfast program for poor children in Oakland.

  • @CMDR.Gonzo.von.Richthofen
    @CMDR.Gonzo.von.Richthofen Год назад +17

    Much respect to the Black Panther Party✊🏼
    Standing up to oppression is a basic human right.
    Defending your community from violence should be commended, not condemned.
    The only way to stop bad people with guns is good people with guns, and too often throughout history-including our own, the bad guys with guns are the government. In fact, USUALLY the bad guys with guns are the government!
    Gun control in our country has always been, and is still currently based on racism, not 'saving lives' as the media and government would have you believe. Several new (at the time) gun control laws came about DIRECTLY due to the Black Panthers carrying firearms to deter the government from committing acts of violence upon them and their communities. Most people who support gun control in this country do so blindly from relatively high castles-uninformed and having no skin in the game themselves. Gun control is racist. Always has been. Support of gun control is defacto racism. Instead, support the right of the people to stand up to oppression in a meaningful way, like these brave men and women did✊🏼
    Listen closely to this man's words...

    • @Cuban20
      @Cuban20 Год назад +1

      Long Live Huey P. Newton!

  • @johnnyrottenpiss
    @johnnyrottenpiss Год назад +38

    The Black Panther Party is still misunderstood today. Conditioning is a hell of a drug.

    • @Cuban20
      @Cuban20 Год назад +12

      Yes and I am really disgusted by how he makes the Panthers seem like a "hateful" segregationist group when they had all
      Sorts of people in their group. Even white members. And they were aligned with Socialist Parties that were mainly white. He makes them look like a terror group or the Black KKK with how he describes them here. I unsubscribed him immediately

    • @bwm_72
      @bwm_72 Год назад +2

      @@Cuban20 Agreed.

    • @idiotwind2248
      @idiotwind2248 Год назад

      @Juan Catalan
      Let's not forget the propaganda campaign that Hoover,s FBI & the Nixon adm.pushed to the media. None of the positive changes fought for were evér publicized. The illegal jailing of members , the assassination of Fred Hampton were all part of fear campaign sent to white America. The BPP certainly weren't
      " prime time players ", but they fought against injustice, gave back to the community, & stood tall against racist oppression.
      Controversial for sure, but the entire era, the changing times & culture was controversial .
      Change is an inevitable part of life. It happens whether we're ready or not. Many weren't ready

    • @drwalka10
      @drwalka10 4 месяца назад

      f' the bpp ! hustled their own people to this day

  • @matthewfarmer2520
    @matthewfarmer2520 Год назад +7

    This is something we can learn from, they wanted to be heard . Great old footage Mr Hoffman. Thank you David film maker 🙂🎥🎞️

  • @YungM.D.
    @YungM.D. Год назад +17

    I found it interesting that Huey and Fred Hampton, while both more radical than King and even later Malcolm X, approached the Black Panther mission fairly differently

    • @colerickman6693
      @colerickman6693 Год назад +10

      Both King and X had groups behind them that helped influence the way they conducted themselves. Which is also why I believe they are who we learn about first, and we only learn about their most controlled elements.

    • @johntrojan9653
      @johntrojan9653 Год назад +2

      "'YAY !'" Stokley C. and Bobby Seal too "'✊'" !*

    • @outdoorloser4340
      @outdoorloser4340 Год назад +1

      @@colerickman6693 CIA?

    • @Cuban20
      @Cuban20 Год назад

      The issue with Malcolm is that his organization was religious and based on conversion to Islam. It was only political in the struggle to free black people. But it didn't go far enough. The BPP was a Maoist organization and had all sorts of programs and ideas for solving society's problems. Plus being a Socialist party they were obviously secular.

  • @RavenNl403
    @RavenNl403 Год назад +8

    Oh my goodness Thanks David ❤️

  • @the_local_bigamist
    @the_local_bigamist Год назад +12

    The Black Panther Party justified self-defence against constant police brutality (which, as we are regularly reminded, is still a systemic problem with people of colour disproportionately affected). They didn't just come out and say "lets kill cops!" - they saw black leaders murdered and came to the conclusion that non-violence wasn't enough. They also went onto do great things, such as breakfasts for children, free medical clinics and also the rainbow coalition, which saw an umbrella of activist groups work together under the realisation that their shared oppression was relative more to their class than their skin colour, with racism being understood as symptomatic of capitalism. This is why the state saw them as a threat, tried to destroy them via COINTELPRO, murdered Fred Hampton and did all that they could to kill the black movement.
    We should be looking back to the example they set in order to understand what is going on today, as the socioeconomic issues are still largely the same. This is why people are started to read Dr. Huey P. Newton, Angela Davies and others, for guidance.
    They were brave and heroic.

    • @Cuban20
      @Cuban20 Год назад

      And they are more relevant today even than in their own times. True Visionaries

  • @MariselaR.da1daOnly
    @MariselaR.da1daOnly Год назад +12

    It shouldn't scare you. If you were a good person who believes in equality and civil rights you have nothing to worry about. If you were a dirty cop, crooked politician or supported racist ideology then it was fair warning that change was coming. You can only ask nicely for so long. He was not asking for anything that any decent human being should have a right to. Frustration makes people demand change. The fact that we still deal with some of these same issues in 2023 speaks volumes to how civil we have been. Black and Brown Americans are so tired of having to ask.

    • @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
      @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker  Год назад

      Please read my description to see why I felt as I felt back then.
      David Hoffman filmmaker

  • @HiddenPalm
    @HiddenPalm Год назад +17

    It shouldn't have scared you. Sometimes, white males who grew up with media/speech aspirations and opportunities have to step aside to let the most oppressed/repressed learn and step up to positions of leadership, opportunities they never had before or anyone in their family (examples in their lives) had before.
    Change is always scary. But the spaces were needed to encourage leadership skills. It takes a certain amount of maturity and respect to recognize that.
    Thank you for sharing this video.

    • @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
      @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker  Год назад +1

      I have followed your comments. You clearly did not read my description of why I felt that way and what part of the civil rights movement I participated in actively.
      David Hoffman filmmaker

    • @HiddenPalm
      @HiddenPalm Год назад +3

      @@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker The choices after you were made to step a side, in that particular part of the movement, were never going to be choices you were going to be comfortable with. It's part of the reason why you're not meant to take a leadership position in it.
      "The most oppressed are the only ones who truly know the answers to their struggle and should be the ones leading their struggle" - Fanon (something like that)
      The Weathermen learned this, and they were white allies also willing to take it a step above you were willing to take it. So they made their own thing. Yet, the unspoken alliance between them, till this day are unspoken. It was the nature of revolutionary cells. That chair Huey P Newton sat on, belonged to their white friend.
      It's the classic debate between reform and an actual revolution more than it is race. But race is still a factor, in what choices are to be made.
      A generation X activist, trained by elders in the Young Lords Party for security and understanding race/gender politics, Black Liberation Army for media, Black Panther Party for organizing and marching, Weathermen professor in world politics, and general Civil Rights and Anti-war activists. From Professor Small and Yuri (close friends to Malcolm X) to anarchist Professors like John "Tito" Gerasi and David Graeber to civil rights lawyers like Ramon Jimenez and many other teachers.
      Didn't mean to demote your experience to "white male" just reminding you why things were done. Or what has been explained to me by your contemporaries.
      "Never trust a white man who claims he's not racist. I myself am a racist in recovery" CUNY activist lawyer, Ron McQuire, who often over spoke as an elder in activist meetings full of students of color, but would stop himself remembering the lessons he learned when Black Panthers brought him into the cause, even though he was a white male. Or when we reminded him. We loved that guy though.

    • @HiddenPalm
      @HiddenPalm Год назад +1

      @@shaeisgae8952 I believe it was more about reform vs revolution, in his situation, since he did approve of Martin Luther King's early nonviolent approach to civil rights. What he found scary, was the revolutionary aspect of the civil rights movement. The call to arms.
      I believe he would have found the Weathermen to be scary as well, and they were all white. But they were white activists in solidarity with radical people of color revolutionaries like the Black Panther Party and the Young Lords Party.
      Revolution is scary, even to those of us who side with the Black Panthers Party, the Young Lords Party, the Weathermen, the Black Liberation Army, the American Indian Movement, Brown Berets, the Animal Liberation Front, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, etc. It's just about how, as individuals and collectives, how we process and deal with that fear, to press on and bring forth change.

  • @jimkonenkamp3774
    @jimkonenkamp3774 Год назад +7

    This is depressing because nothing has really changed!!

  • @erichwalrath970
    @erichwalrath970 Год назад +9

    This was made last week. Right? Doesn't seem like much has changed, at least not where the rubber actually hits the road.

  • @gotrees4
    @gotrees4 Год назад +7

    whether you agree with it or not, the civil rights movement might not have been very successful if it wasn't for pressure from groups like this!

    • @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
      @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker  Год назад +1

      The civil rights movement in my opinion had achieved major successes before groups like this came on the scene. Most Americans agreed with the general feelings of the civil rights movement.
      David Hoffman filmmaker

    • @12363haha
      @12363haha 3 месяца назад

      @@DavidHoffmanFilmmakergroups like what? Groups of disenfranchised,brutalized,dehumanized and violently marginalized Black people arming themselves to fight against violence that actively kills Black people just like them. What qualifies as successful if the Black Panthers and Black people still had to fight systemic oppression from society,police,government etc? You do a great disservice to Black people and our plight if you believe that the only way to fight systemic oppression is by nonviolence. Would it have been better to be nonviolent and ignored,killed,actively dehumanized and institutionalized because violence against oppression is wrong?

  • @mikenixon2401
    @mikenixon2401 Год назад +8

    Very good explanation, David. As you know, I always enjoy reading the comments and making comparisons. That is often equally interesting. Thanks for the film and your work. Be a blessing.

  • @theresapelham1918
    @theresapelham1918 Год назад +1

    I think I hear Olatunji drums in there…beautiful and yeah was this recent…seems we’re back or never left
    These are a treasure…reminding us we got work to do

  • @m0L3ify
    @m0L3ify Год назад +8

    The NAACP has a great article about how the Slave Patrols of the 1700's evolved into modern-day police forces called "The Origins of Modern Day Policing." I really feel for what this guy is saying at the beginning of this video. He's right. They were occupied and still are.

  • @nathanarievlis3985
    @nathanarievlis3985 Год назад +7

    Do not confuse Huey Newton with Huey Lewis. I've made this mistake . It turned out okay , but one never know.

  • @blackrain303
    @blackrain303 Год назад +4

    Zechariah 11:5
    [5]Whose possessors slay them, and hold themselves not guilty: and they that sell them say, Blessed be the LORD; for I am rich: and their own shepherds pity them not.

  • @theinternaut1991
    @theinternaut1991 Год назад +5

    Excellent upload! After studying the black panthers, and hearing my black family member's experience- I must wholely disagree with your assessment that the black panthers were a violent or segregationist group, violence is defined as taking away freedom & agency by force- the black panthers only expanded freedom & agency by force. Sorry that rhetoric of force makes you "scared" but force is absolutely necessary when defending against true violence. It was not segregationist, there is nothing in this video that suggests that other than your word in the description. If by segregation you mean: their own communities away from white people- that's a reasonable opinion if white people keep killing you? That isn't segregationist that's proactive & protective. Segregation connotes purposeful oppression- something no black liberation group sought. Your opinion is that separation & force are not necessary, well I agree, but that doesn't mean they were violent, scary, or segregationist. Good documentarians don't let opinions cloud our record of history. Thanks for uploading!

    • @joeburly
      @joeburly Год назад +1

      Great comment.

    • @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
      @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker  Год назад +1

      He's my short reply. I filmed members of the party and interviewed a few. To say they were not segregationist is wrong. They treated me and my colleagues and others with a decided disrespect. Bless you completely agreed with everything they said. Otherwise they dismissed you. And they preached violence consistently even if they did not themselves behave violently. That is not to say they did not have a good reason for their existence. I understand that very well. "Good documentarians don't let their opinions cloud our record of history?" I don't know what you mean by that. Every documentary is a point of view. Every documentarian picks and chooses what to show. I tried to show as accurately as possible what I saw. Truth for documentarians, is profoundly affected by their points of view.
      David Hoffman filmmaker

    • @theinternaut1991
      @theinternaut1991 Год назад +1

      @@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker I can totally see how your first person account is much more accurate than how my black educators and family feel about the black panthers. Thank you for informing me about your personal experience. You make a good point that all documentarians have a point of view and to ignore it is indeed sort of ignorant. My sympathy that you were treated with disrespect although it's possible they felt a threat from you due to their own prejudice formed over years of systemic abuse, not to say that their disrespect is justified- but I am advocating in this comment & my last to tell a different narrative- a narrative that includes all the communities who feel like they needed to use force, who felt as though they needed to be disrespectful when in actuality they probably did not need to. This video could have been an exploration in human psychology, or a document on how violence leads/feeds into violence but instead it is a piece of media that paints the black panthers in very particular light from a very narrow/myopic point of view- it would be more accurate to include not just your experience & the narrative that you see is all.
      I think you make great documentaries and I'm honored you even engaged in this discussion with me, my dad & I love your videos & I think this media is a great thing to have out there- I guess I'm just sort of a critic & I like to participate in the discussion lol, thank you for your thoughtful reply.

    • @theinternaut1991
      @theinternaut1991 Год назад

      @@joeburly thank you! I appreciate it

  • @idiotwind2248
    @idiotwind2248 Год назад +8

    Power to the people Dave ✌️
    It was a wild time.
    The panthers came out of the Civil rights movement ,tired of the slow pace for justice.
    Similar to the Weatherman coming out of the nonviolent SDS.
    YEA...those were some wild times✌️

  • @Diogenes_Parrhesiastes
    @Diogenes_Parrhesiastes Год назад +94

    The struggle for liberation should not only not frighten us but should inspire us. Your legacy lives on, Comrade Huey.

    • @ddylla85
      @ddylla85 Год назад +3

      Comrade?

    • @Diogenes_Parrhesiastes
      @Diogenes_Parrhesiastes Год назад +2

      @@ddylla85 Absolutely.

    • @Cuban20
      @Cuban20 Год назад +1

      @@ddylla85 The Panthers were a Maoist group. I'm surprised you didn't know that.

    • @kmack657
      @kmack657 Год назад

      @@Diogenes_Parrhesiastes spoken like a true Communist

  • @BrightasVenus
    @BrightasVenus Год назад +1

    Wow. I really appreciate all the details and info on the description.

  • @cherylcallahan5402
    @cherylcallahan5402 Год назад +2

    *David Hoffman BLACK Man 👨 doesn't own any property appreciate your videos Listening 🌼 From Mass USA TYVM 🇺🇸 David*

  • @drewpall2598
    @drewpall2598 Год назад +1

    As You mention in your description the Black Panthers did achieve some good like Free Breakfast for School Children Program, but to fight violent with violent especially against the police will only make matter worst. I see why you felt the way you did back then.
    I felt the same way with the Rodney King beating in 1991 as I watch the trial on television where the jury acquitted all four officers of assault and acquitted three of the four of using excessive force then the aftermath of the Los Angeles riots began and seeing an innocent truck driver Reginald Denny pulled out from his big rig and being beaten. Thanks David Hoffman.

  • @clairewyndham1971
    @clairewyndham1971 Год назад +11

    In order to REALLY listen to him or to try to understand what this nation was going through in 1967, you cannot listen with your 2023 ears. In 1967, this nation was hurting. Vietnam , women's rights, the Civil rights Bill had just been passed (1964) and nobody really knew what was going on. Huey stepped up to the plate and regardless of what you think of him, he said all the words that needed to be said. It was one thing to know the civil rights Bill passed, but implementing it is the deep south was a whole nother thing. Midgard Evers had been assassinated in 1963 still no arrests....in 1960 you had a little black girl escorted to school by the national guard. Yes, the law said they were going to fix ALL the social ills with this law, but in 1967, it was still a " separate but equal" way of life. Again, don't judge by 2023 standards.

    • @drewpall2598
      @drewpall2598 Год назад +1

      @Claire Wyndham... You brought up a key point to understanding the 1960's or any decade for that matter, is to not listen, look or have a feeling about a past decade with the knowledge of today. This film footage only shows just a small fraction of what took place in the 1960's.

  • @orionfl79
    @orionfl79 Год назад +6

    This guy raises a lot of good points and some of his ideas (or demands) make sense, especially in the context a time where if black people showed up in a certain space they were either shunned or thrown out. For instance a job interview, certain restaurants and stores, even schools that were designated "white only". A lot of it though is a bit scary, for instance begetting violence as a solution to violence. Its good that in the modern day at least some of his ideas (or what seem like demands) have been fulfilled. But at the same time its even more scary that in 2023, in some states a teacher could be arrested and universities could loose their funding for even showing this video for the sake of initiating a discussion with their students.

  • @ramblingrootscamp
    @ramblingrootscamp Год назад +6

    It's crazy that after all these years the police are exactly the same.

    • @Cuban20
      @Cuban20 Год назад +2

      You can't reform fascists that's why

  • @a.gjosaether
    @a.gjosaether Год назад +12

    This is what community self-defence looks like

  • @tesscastro2652
    @tesscastro2652 Год назад +5

    Thanks as always for your historic unbiased footage. Much Love and Gratitude sir!

  • @NaderNabilart
    @NaderNabilart Год назад +1

    Police rarely get in trouble for their unnecessary violence. That's the only difference between Black Panthers and the US security establishments.

  • @zitozentinel
    @zitozentinel Год назад +4

    There was a thread being weaved by exploitators

  • @maryannhope8276
    @maryannhope8276 Год назад +6

    # NO JUSTICE NO PEACE

  • @Kyohan137
    @Kyohan137 Год назад +3

    Good footage but another example of history without context,

  • @seleluxout
    @seleluxout Год назад +2

    It seems a bit odd to denounce the Black Panther Party during black history month.

    • @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
      @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker  Год назад

      I did not denounce the party. I only expressed my feelings at that time. I also pointed out in my description that the party did many good things on a local level.
      David Hoffman filmmaker

  • @satoshijames4134
    @satoshijames4134 Год назад +1

    The Most Dangerous Superstition is that one man has authority over another.

  • @gravenewworld6521
    @gravenewworld6521 Год назад +7

    Idk how or why this scared you? Everything said in this was completely justified and understandable.

    • @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
      @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker  Год назад

      Did you read the description? That will explain what I felt at that time. David Hoffman filmmaker

  • @gmamah9559
    @gmamah9559 Год назад +6

    Yet here we are, still fighting the same fight. We've learned nothing but more hate.

  • @drewpall2598
    @drewpall2598 Год назад +2

    This is very interesting It shows another side of the turbulent 1960's. I don't agree with all of Huey Newton and black panther party ten-point program but in fairness they do have some good points.
    Martin Luther King had a way of getting his view across in a peaceful manner as frustrated as he got at times. My mom told me when I was young "it not what you say it's how you say it that counts."
    Thanks David Hoffman.

    • @Cuban20
      @Cuban20 Год назад +3

      The problem is that this goes into tone policing. Listening to people only if you like their tone is childish. The Panthers were tired of talking sweetly to a bunch of hypocrites that did nothing to benefit their people. In the end, we're seeing King's dreams evaporate into the air in real time. The Panthers were right.

    • @aaronanderson3076
      @aaronanderson3076 Год назад

      A big part of why MLK was killed is because he was waking up to the realization that nonviolence was non-effective. Y'all just prefer passive bm as opposed to those willing to meet you at your level SMH

  • @dez0265
    @dez0265 Год назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @bldmyamean8352
    @bldmyamean8352 Год назад +9

    This would be a wonderful opportunity to pause for a moment and give thanks for the great contributions all of my BRUTHAS/SISTAS in the melanin community that has contributed to our society. Their peaceful NON-VIOLENT, generous nature and articulate speaking skills make them ideal neighbors, lending testimony to their exceptional family values and parenting skills unrivaled by any other culture. Their child-rearing practices and skills mixed with their unparalleled work ethic are second to none. Their rational and logical thought toward circumstances coupled with their innate capability to de-escalate situations to be envied and coveted. Their commitment to academic excellence enriches our schools and serves our community as an example to all.

    • @olivesama
      @olivesama Год назад

      Do you have any original thoughts, or do you only know how to think in copypasta?
      Are you too afraid to simply speak the truth?

  • @llJRLL1979ll
    @llJRLL1979ll Год назад +4

    Despite every action to co-exist, and rectify wrongs that weren't personally committed- this sentiment is worse now, than it was then. Devolving down to excusing indecent immoral behavior based on a past none of us made.

    • @seleluxout
      @seleluxout Год назад

      Try hearing the opinions of Khadija Mbowe here on RUclips to understand oppressive systems that affect black people in America. They’re honestly really entertaining, informative videos.

  • @danintrocaso
    @danintrocaso Год назад +2

    I've met numerous people from New England, USA whose first contact with a black person was in the military. And some hayseed Mainers were glad for the company those NY brothers provided in Vietnam.

  • @eemoogee160
    @eemoogee160 Год назад +5

    If you don't know about Fred Hampton, do look him up.

  • @MENFUSSMIKE
    @MENFUSSMIKE Год назад +1

    White Panther Party....Detroit...Dope Guns and Effin In The streets

  • @BIGMOUTHLOUIS
    @BIGMOUTHLOUIS Год назад +2

    I agree with him.

  • @tsheponcamane2018
    @tsheponcamane2018 Год назад

    Do you think maybe it also says something about at the time that you did not focus on what was the root cause of their actions?

    • @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
      @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker  Год назад +1

      As my description says, I was focused on the plight of black Americans and on civil rights since high school in the 1950s. I was an active participant in Martin Luther King's efforts. I did focus on the root cause but did not believe that violence or direct threats of violence was the answer.
      David often filmmaker

  • @charlesmckinley29
    @charlesmckinley29 Год назад +1

    Too bad he didn’t go experience Castro’s Cuba for himself.

  • @Dingdongwitchisdead
    @Dingdongwitchisdead Год назад +1

    As complex as this issue is I cannot see historically where any country allowed it’s citizens to not be policed. What is more believable is that when a citizenry calls for its local police to be abolished and becomes a lawless society the government will replace local police forces with a federalized police force or military more equipped to deal with larger civil unrest. It goes without saying that they would be given the authority to use even more force than the current force to get the citizens to comply. I think people are very misinformed if they think they can just abolish police altogether.

  • @jaybeevs8612
    @jaybeevs8612 Год назад +1

    The Black Panthers were a self defense org for lower class peoples. All of them. Huey Newton, Bobby Seale, Fred Hampton, and Elbert Howard have all done amazing things to help people in lower class communities. These systems were and are continued, though forced to be more liberalized given what happened to Huey and Fred. They'll always live on in our hearts

  • @mikedrop4421
    @mikedrop4421 Год назад

    Nothing has changed. God it's depressing

  • @matthewcurcio2923
    @matthewcurcio2923 Год назад

    I understand that it scared you back then. Does it still scare you now, out of curiosity?

    • @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
      @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker  Год назад +2

      It doesn't exist anymore in the way that it did and certainly doesn't scare me. I suggest you consider becoming a subscriber and a member of the David Hoffman RUclips community or even a patron where I answer questions asked of me in detail. Your question deserves that kind of answer.
      David Hoffman filmmaker

  • @raiderblue4070
    @raiderblue4070 Год назад +4

    Wake up Blacc People!! We're still in the same situation B1✊🏿✊🏿💪🏿💪🏿💯

  • @edwardbona1327
    @edwardbona1327 Год назад

    Amongst thousands of others since.

  • @NikoFrederiko.
    @NikoFrederiko. Год назад

    Is this slightly sped up? Or is that how it's always sounded?

  • @son4821
    @son4821 Год назад +1

    Huey Newton also said the revolution doesn't happen in a lifetime. His violent actions may have triggered events that will lead to his end goal. whether thats from violence or not.. we speak his name and the organizations still

  • @andrewheffel3565
    @andrewheffel3565 Год назад +4

    I live in an affluent mostly white community. My wife and I, and hence our sons, are not white. When our boys started to drive, I told them: obey the laws so you don't get pulled over. When you do get pulled over: roll the window down, turn off the engine, put your hands on the steering wheel, be polite, no sudden moves, and obey instructions. So many people get in trouble with the police because they can't, or won't, follow these rules. I know many people, especially some minorities, have been mistreated and are angry. But if you live by the sword, you will die by the sword. You cannot kill your way to equality. But if you try hard, you might work your way there. I did. People care more about how you behave than the color of your skin.

    • @andrewheffel3565
      @andrewheffel3565 Год назад

      @@shaeisgae8952 Yes, a world witout racism is absolutely worth working for. My family's way to be respected as an equal is to work hard and be successful. What is your way?

    • @andrewheffel3565
      @andrewheffel3565 Год назад

      @@shaeisgae8952 So don't try to make the most of your life? I don't do what I do to earn some stranger's respect, I do it to make a better life for me and mine. What I do not respect is someone demanding it but doing nothing to earn it, and I mean that irrespective of their color. I believe in common courtesy towards all, everyone deserves that. But the people I respect the most are those who have the grit to make something of themselves, especially if they are kind to others. Hating another group because they have and you don't isn't going to help anyone. Racism is still very real, but things are getting better, at least where I live. I know some places are a lot worse.
      Oh, and 40% of blacks are middle class. Up that to 75% and a lot of problems go away. A lot of this has to do with poverty. I was dirt poor into my 30's, and it sucked.

  • @towerofresonance4877
    @towerofresonance4877 Год назад +1

    Dr. King was needed in this time.

  • @cobanks
    @cobanks Год назад

    the comments on this video are scary☹️

  • @jessecockrum5273
    @jessecockrum5273 Год назад

    Oh the good old days

  • @hahaha9076
    @hahaha9076 Год назад +2

    Even in the Philippines today, darker skinned native Filipinos are seen as less than. Typically, those from the Provences.
    Ironically, they are the sweetest, most empathetic, and loving people.
    Respect one another, no matter the origin.
    All our origins are from dark skinned homosapiens.

  • @edwardbona1327
    @edwardbona1327 Год назад

    And the Black Panthers killed one of their own: Alex Rackley.

  • @nicholasdasilva9
    @nicholasdasilva9 Год назад

    We must stand against violence and ideologizing no matter who is doing it.

    • @joeburly
      @joeburly Год назад +2

      Ideologizing?

    • @Cuban20
      @Cuban20 Год назад +2

      Translation : "Don't you dare stand up for your rights and don't defend yourself, don't get too smart by reading books and thinking logically because you might have opinions contrary to those in power. Be nice, stupid sheep. And wait to be slaughtered,"

    • @nicholasdasilva9
      @nicholasdasilva9 Год назад

      @@Cuban20 Huey Newton was a violent extremist who had multiple domestic assaults on him and had homicide related charges.
      I support activism, but he was a cynical extremist whose trauma got the better of him. Huey Newton is often canonized as a saint and martyr of the movement, but he had a real shadow side to him, like we all do. He should not be studied uncritically. And I am an activist myself, btw. But I believe in doing things a bit differently.

  • @josephwritessongs
    @josephwritessongs Год назад +1

    Not hard to justify

  • @hermaggiesty
    @hermaggiesty Год назад +2

    Revolution could possibly mean death for many people. I can understand the fear.

    • @Cuban20
      @Cuban20 Год назад

      Doing nothing leads to even more Death. We're seeing that right now. Which is why groups like the Panthers are popping up in the first place. Thank God.

  • @Digital.midori
    @Digital.midori Год назад +10

    I understand the need to post this and give your personal opinion on it that is fine, but why not put both sides of the story in the description? Was he a saint? Absolutely not. But he did do a lot of positives for his community,had a cause, and that cause didn’t come out of thin air. He’s a product of white supremacy.
    I also find it interesting China was so welcoming and inviting to him and his group.

    • @yoseifhaph1020
      @yoseifhaph1020 Год назад

      Amen

    • @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
      @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker  Год назад +1

      That is exactly what I put in my description. The Black Panther party on the local level did amazingly good work and that is what I said.
      David Hoffman filmmaker

    • @TheLisab56
      @TheLisab56 Год назад +2

      @@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker Maybe reread your words.

  • @KBCBS616
    @KBCBS616 Год назад +4

    They used all the alphabet letters to stop them. We all benefitted from their hard work

  • @jamesmccarthy5086
    @jamesmccarthy5086 Год назад

    From watching this and reading the description it kinda reminds me of the early nazi party. They were very similar to this. Thankfully our country didn’t allow him to take too much power. Violence can never be fought with violence, and yet we do to this day. I’m so glad I live in a small area we don’t have to deal with violence. I wish every one was like martin Luther king junior and do things peacefully and not violently. I hope that one day as a world that we realize that violence towards anyone regardless of race regardless of religion or beliefs, or gender, if we just do that I think we’d be in a far better world then we are today.

    • @joeburly
      @joeburly Год назад +2

      @@shaeisgae8952 seriously. What an ignorant parallel. Comparing a chant of “no more brothers in Jail” to “Deutschland über alles” … smh

    • @jamesmccarthy5086
      @jamesmccarthy5086 Год назад +1

      @@shaeisgae8952 seems like you have a lot of learning to do. I made the parallel with the early nazis to the early panthers. If you think they aren’t similar. Then you are the one who needs some learning.

  • @1jbunceiii
    @1jbunceiii Год назад +1

    Super interesting bio.... didn't know the back story

  • @steady747
    @steady747 Год назад +5

    Scared you? Justice and equality scares you?

    • @heypaul7646
      @heypaul7646 Год назад +1

      Equality? They literally refused to let any other race but black people join them.

    • @TheLisab56
      @TheLisab56 Год назад +2

      Thank you.

    • @joeburly
      @joeburly Год назад

      @@heypaul7646 I guess you’ve never heard of the Young Patriots.

    • @johnnyrottenpiss
      @johnnyrottenpiss Год назад

      Government and media really f*cked up a lot of generations.

    • @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
      @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker  Год назад +1

      Did you read the description. That explains why I felt that way at that time. Justice and equality do not scare me.
      David Hoffman filmmaker

  • @nerdbamarich2063
    @nerdbamarich2063 Год назад

    🙏🏾🙏🏾

  • @kamilebrahimoff3589
    @kamilebrahimoff3589 Год назад

    The Black Panther Party had to be revolutionary because the establishment would not have work with them.

  • @TheJackal917
    @TheJackal917 Год назад +3

    Oh, black maoism.. Damn, studied that looooomg time ago.

  • @TheWaxworker
    @TheWaxworker Год назад +4

    Newton’s life is an illustration of Jesus’ statement that he who lives by the sword shall die by it.

    • @Cuban20
      @Cuban20 Год назад +1

      Newton's life is a testament to the fact that the US Government is one of the biggest Terrorist organizations in history. He fought to free all oppressed people. Using the Bible to put him down is pretty disgusting.

  • @deemari577
    @deemari577 Год назад

    Scared from what? Where did black people learn violence from??? Think about it...

    • @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
      @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker  Год назад +2

      As I said in my description, I was not scared for myself back in 1967. I was scared for them because there was no way that folks like I could see that those who suggested or acted in violence against the police could win or even have a major effect long-term.
      David Hoffman filmmaker

  • @barrybenson4158
    @barrybenson4158 Год назад +5

    Based

  • @fizkallnyeilsem
    @fizkallnyeilsem Год назад

    This is so gay and i love it🌈🏳️‍🌈🇺🇲