@@thelittlestgiant he's so much more relatable in English. It really helps sell the idea that we could have been friends if the situation was different.
Im fluent in Japanese. He comes off like he's constantly sarcastic, which is similar in the English I guess. He's a bit more intimidating in the Japanese for me though.
I can't help but process his delivery of お前が！as "OH MY GOD!" à la Joseph Joestar. Just imagine a journey with Garlean Grandpa except he exclaims Amaurotine expletives time to time.
I’m fuckin’ rolling, man, lmao. I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who thought this. Usually I don’t mind the JP voices but I just don’t think this one suits Emet-Selch.
If you think Emet's English voice isn't deep enough rest assured his voice gets low. Emet is the narrator for the next expansion's trailer so if you're caught up check out the trailer and hear it for yourself.
Everyone is going to say "their" version is better because that's what they formed emotional attachments to and that's how they defined the character. Everything else is rationalization.
cant deny nor agree, in many cases i find japanese va superior, but there are times when eng comes out on top. For varied reasons, but perhaps this time because i personally just find english voices be more "varied" . In game characters come from every corner of the world and different culture and have different characteristics due to their background. I just find english va more colourful in ff14. But it is true for attachment aswell. I may aswell as longtime weeb just be used to japanese vocals and not find them as interesting as hearing actual quality eng va, which at times can be rare. Either way what you say is very true, but can be not so much if people truly care(and most will be shallow or just care less) to explain their preferences.
Honestly, yeah, that's how it checks out with me and my GF. We'd both switched to Japanese during ARR because of the bad voice directing for that part, but I switched over to English for HW, cuz I usually play when I'm working overnights doing work-from-home call center work and it's easier for me to listen with an earbud than try and stop to read every line of dialogue. I LOOOOVE Emet's English voice! It's SO GOOD! Honestly, I feel that way about oretty much EVERYONE from HW onward. But the GF didn't, and we were listening to the comparisons last night to see what we'd been experiencing differently, and she could not get used to the English voices AT ALL! XD Meanwhile, I don't think the Japanese is bad, but certain choices BOGGLE ME! Why does Urianger sound so HOT?!? He's supposed to ne an awkward dad! Emet's so much more SUBDUED! Why does Hythlodaeus sound like THAT?!?@?!?!? It made me laugh, how both of us were like "omg NO LOL WTF???" when listening to the other side of things. 😆
@@hellsingmongrel I’m bilingual, I was raised in the US but my parents taught me both English and Japanese growing up. For Hythlodaeus, the Japanese voice acting made sense most to me because he was presented as a softer character who is very kind but likes to mess with Emet, who is much more hard headed and colder. In Japan, when the characters have a softer but witty personality, they usually sound more high pitched and soft, hence why he sounds like that in the Japanese VA. For me the English voice for him was too low and manly. Not saying he’s girly, but he gave me more of an elegant gentlemen vibe and his Japanese voice acting matched better for me as well as the lines he said compared to the English. But I understand to some people it sounds weird especially if you compare the obviously very different voices haha
Loki and Hades are mythologically speaking very similar, both being Gods of the Underworld and the Dead, both behaving like tricksters and many other things. As Hades lack pop cultural nodes to attach to and therefore lacks an easily recognizable sort of voice, Marvel's Loki was the best thing they could frame within a pop cultural reference.
I'm playing in my native tongue which is French and his voice is also different from both english and japanese. I would say he's more non chalant, condescending like cynical in its way of saying things but the tone is deeper than in both english and Japanese
Yoo... I can imagine this would also solve the huge issue with new players having to catch up to the main story. They could watch an anime of the Hydaelen vs Zodiark saga if they wanted a recount of the story up until the end of Endwalker. Imagine that final scene with Emet being animated by some really good studio... the chills would be intense.
JP Emet sounds way more aggressive than I would have expected. Also a fair bit more condescending, and he was already a patronizing jerk in English. It's probably because of his pronouns, I guess? I like them both. They have their own flavors. Maybe I feel a smidge more fond of the EN, but that's probably just because that's the voice he was using when I first met him.
wish i knew more japanese, i know just enough to get the feeling that what emet is saying is at least slightly different (seemed to say that urianger had done his studies rather than calling him a historian, frex) but i want to have a better understanding of the differences between the dialogue in each language
ye in that part i think he says somethn more like "well, aren't you well studied. then i assume it'll be fine if i omit the lengthy explanation" most of the translations in shb i feel like are more closely translated compared to other xpacs but there are random lines here and there that completely don't match up - like when he says to thancred "...enough to make me think better of confronting you alone" there is no "alone" in the voiced lines - he says something more akin to "THIS is why i hate confronting (/making opponents out of yall) directly" which better sets up difference he's outlining in terms of approach (indirectly confronting ie: manipulating vauthry vs. directly confronting ie: making him/his plans known)
@@Prezzix Yeah the english voices cast almost everyone 10-20 years older than their actual characters. Alisae sounds like a 35 year old mother in english, that straight up confused me
I don't mind either of them tbh. Each gives a really nice take to fleshing Emet-Selch out and I think both are pretty good. Alisae's voice is weird in Japanese. Urianger's is better in Japanese. Alphinaud's is great in both, and love Thancred in any language. Only a few characters I've had issues with choices.
See, Urianger's voice in Japanese makes me laugh, cuz the En VA is kind of smooth and pretty, but the Jp one sounds like they were going for straight up HOT, and it breaks my brain because he's supposed to be the awkward, quiet one! 😆 I mean...he IS hot, but it still doesn't sound right for him to be making a sexy bedroom-voice purr!
So, I feel like with a character like Emet... the only people who can really compare the voices, are those who are fluent in both languages and familiar with native speakers of both. As I am English and not fluent in Japanese, I can only talk for the English version. The charater, and his voice, is absolutely chok full of nuance and idocyncracies which I imagine are utterly lost on someone who is not a fluent English speaker, which is why I suspect when I listen to the Japanese dub, I'm probably missing alot of things they are doing with it. He sounds like a somewhat generic anime villian, where as the English voice, whilst definately a voice that sounds like its likely belonging to a villian, is very unique and different and gives you the idea that.. his not a simple as just a bad guy.
I prefer the EN VA, but seeing Hiroki Takahashi at the fanfest do live voice acting and interacting with the other 2 VAs, he seems like such a fun guy :D
I'm omly here bcs of urianger lmao. While i like both i also have issues with either xD don't like the sound of the english one ,it sounds quite old.. in japanese tho ,same vibes but this..noise he makes when saying "a" is just so frog like ahaha
ngl, I was kinda hoping that they'd have cast Yuuichi Nakamura as Emet-Selch in the Japanese, if only because I get that sort of Hazama-ish vibe from Emet
Yup! And while I do like the English dialogue more overall, when it comes to the villains, the japanese vas nail it, and Hiroki as Emet-Selch absolutely killed it
FFXIV JP vs EN is a mixed bag. Some voices (like Emet-Selch) I like a lot more in English, but some others (like Alisaie, though I'm not the biggest fan of her Japanese voice either) dont quite fit in English Overall though, I'd have to say I prefer the English version overall because the VAs are for the most part relative unknowns (most of them are stage actors by trade) who do a really good job. Gives it more of a unique feel than hearing Japanese seiyuus who, although very good, Im too used to hearing every time I watch anime or play a VN with voice acting. Aside from a few Xenoblade VAs and Game of Thrones actors, it's mostly "fresh" voices in FFXIV, while every Japanese VA I've heard in a lot of other series already. I always like hearing relative unknowns, as long as they deliver (which the London cast largely does in FFXIV)
Reading the comments is... interesting, at the very least. I personally prefer the ENG cast, which surprises me to no end because I usually cannot stand ENG dub in any Japanese media. The only thing I like a bit more in JPN is Urianger's voice, tho i'm still quite satisfied with his eng voice actor. I honestly can't bear listening to JPN Alisaie no matter how much I try to warm up to a 'voice that fits a sixteen year-old' better, or so they say. I reaally love the direction they went with ENG Emet-Selch. The sardonic and melodramatic way he delivers his lines was a great undertone to how he truly felt about everything. Also given his lore of being a big fan of theatre, it really felt like he was giving the performance of his life. Then again, at the end of the day, it's all up to personal preferences, and you go for what works for you 💁♀️
Anybody who thinks a 16 year old girl has to sound like a pre-teen girl has no idea what actual 16 year old girls sound like... or they watch way too much subtitled-only anime.
@@TheRogueX Maybe somewhere in between ENG and JP voice would be perfect. But in an 'anime' setting (and I personally think her looks are just too much that) , I think her JP voice fits better overall, while the English one clearly sounds like an adult and feels out of place.
@@narius_jaden215 JP Urianger isn't just a 'generic cool guy,' he's eloquent and polite to the point of pretentiousness. Which is fitting for the character, no? Sure, it's a sexy voice. That, too, is fitting for Urianger in ShB. Dude's hot af.
@@gmichielon Agreed. It's always weird to me how old most of the English voices sound. Especially the twins who are still teens, in English they sound like grown ups, while Japanese sounds closer to what their age is supposed to be. I also prefer Urianger's Japanese voice over his English voice. More soft-spoken and sweet instead of the deep voice he has in English. Which is also charming, don't get me wrong, but just so not how I perceive him.
English version of Feo Ul wasn't terrible, she actually did very well, she just has a deeper voice. She's also Scottish which fits, since pixie folklore is mainly from the UK
I've only played in Japanese and am properly weirded out by the English voice. The Japanese one is so perfect and whimsical. He kind of gives me Heath Ledger Joker vibes with his eccentrics while playing innocent and weak almost as a mockery of the hero when he's actually the mastermind playing the strings.
The thing about it is they missed the mark in Japan despite having the absolute perfect choice standing alongside. The VA for *Elidibus* is Ishida Akira- mister Sore Wa Himitsu Desu himself. How much better might it have been had they swapped, I wonder?
I'm unfortunately a English voice actor racist like I feel there's been a scarce few that I actually preferred the English dub over the Japanese dub aot is the 1st example I use the English dub was so good while the Japanese lacked certain emotions
I can tell that unlike FFXVI, this game's intended original language is Japanese rather than English, which is why his Japanese voice actually fit his clown-like expression, body language and design.
FFXIV has always been in English. Eorzean alphabet is stylized English and 1.0's VA was only English. You can prefer JP, but the in-universe language is definitely English.
@@queequegtheater6093 I mean the primary language intended for the game's story, rather than the language in-universe. Like Resident Evil games were set in real life America and sometime in different Western countries, and despite almost all of the game have ENG VA only, some of those games have translation errors and changes of script to English version compare to the Japanese version, which were written first.
@@NemoNemuNeme have you heard 17 year old girls? They don't have mother voices. She's no woman, she's a child still of course it's gonna be a more child like voice
I think the english voices sometimes are better in the small moments. Like the actors give away more presonality. But I think in the big important moments they start to fall short. Hard to beat a good anime scream in the anime scream game
How anyone can play with English voice acting is beyond me, the performances are lacking to say the least. The game went from jarring to awesome when I switched to jp.
I play with jp voices but i prefer emets eng voice. It fits his body language and overall demeanor. The vibe of someone who's tired of all of the shit and just doing whatever he wants.
English's voice acting is really good imo. I by far preferred Emet-Selch interpretation in english. Just like the comment above said. Dude is so done with this shit and the voice fits so well with the way he moves. Overall the cast performance is really enjoyable.
Emet and Thancred sound like the same voice actor and Urianger sounds depressed. No contest really, the English voice actors have so much more personality.
i much prefer his english va. japanese va sounds like every villain that has been in every anime. not saying theyre not good, but like, theres nothing unique about it. i thought the va industry there was huge, yet they get the same 2 guys to voice villains
He wasn't supposed to sound handsome, hell he wasn't even meant to be handsome. His designer made him to look unsettling and evil and unattractive, and was downright surprised when he found out how much people were thirsty for him. I wish I knew where I found the interview article, I can't seem to find it anymore
@@KougaMyazawa but he is called handsome and is pretty handsome in Endwalker, keeping his Shadowbringers facial structure. And TBH, I feel like english Endwalker Emet doesn't feel the character anymore. His lines often sound unnatural and forced
Most of the qualities that can be found in the english dub is in the performance of their lines. i give it to their VAs, they're talented. Regardless as a french player that prefers the japanese dub, i vastly prefer the JP VAs for the same reasons as you. I found the many liberties taken by the english localization to be extreme and even sometimes bad also by reintepreting dialogues or the characters's personalities, but the problems lies also in the randoms accents comming out of nowhere from my perspective... and that i found down right off-putting. The VAs also just doesn't seems to fit well with the faces of a lot of said characters, like Alisaie for exemple sounding like a middle-aged 30 years old woman, instead of a 13/16 years old teenager. It just feels inconsistent from a casting stand point. That being said, these are only my preferences and opinions. More power to anyone that found themselves more comfortable with the english dub, they still drives the points home of the characters, naratives and stories.
y'all are trippin' balls. english dub is way better in FFXIV. the voices actually fit. and this comes from someone who ALWAYS watches japanese dub in anime.
@@Omnis.satanica.potestas_omnis People are just biased towards Japanese VA because it's Japan so it's always better logic. I enjoyed the English VAs more and think their voices fits the characters way better. I would even go as far as to say JP has less emotions (?) somehow, as I think the English VAs have more "unique" voices compared to the JP casting. Overall both are good (especially compared to the french version, it's so sad to see it butchered). In the end it just falls to personal preference anyway.
@@Omnis.satanica.potestas_omnis Nah I have to disagree. The English voice actors fall flat. There's something fake about them. And they frequently go wrong when they try to portray the personality of characters. Take emet for example. He is not supposed to be as goofy as they make him out to be in English. He is intelligent and smug. The English voice actor loses some of his complexity.
@KougaMyazawa I'm obviously biased, but I think Hiroki Takahashi knocked it out of the park! In more recent years his voice profile type has switched from the softer or more stereotypical shounen characters that I originally found him for, like APH Japan and Joey/Jounouchi from Yugioh, to more mature and often self-serving/villainish characters. In the past couple years I know he's played (in no particular order): Ryu (more recent Street Fighter incarnations) Crimson Rubeus (Sailor Moon Crystal, secondary villain) Pariston Hill (the newer Hunter x Hunter, friendly on the outside and sneaky/manipulative underneath) Jo Sawashiro (antagonist from the Yakuza Online mobile game, & minorly in Yakuza 7) Date Masamune (Nioh DLC lord and boss fight) Katzelia (Granblue Fantasy, a fallen prince trying to start a war to regain his throne) Kukri (King of Fighters XIV, mysterious and callous newcomer to the series) Considering his range from his older roles and his lower voice type than the average in the industry, his newer voice archetype is super appropriate for a villain role like Emet-Selch that's theatrical, prideful, and deeply tragic. I don't think this clip does the range of the role's peaks and valleys enough justice to show that though, but any other clip would probably be spoilers to the highest degree. ^^;
I think the JP Emet sounds very stereotypically "megalomaniac" sort of evil. It threw me off because the english one sounded like someone you'd enjoy having around, even as he played lightly with our lives xD.
The Japanese voice is so generic. By comparison it feels completely monotone to the English one. Not to say it wasn't well acted, but I'd argue it wasn't well directed.
The Japanese voices sound... so boring. Typical. Like I've heard in 100 different anime over the years. Each fits the exact archetype of the characters and nothing more. Urianger is hot in both though :P
I completely disagree, and it may be because I understand a fair amount of the Japanese. There is a lot of nuance in the Japanese VA because all of them are quite skilled in their field, as it's a huge industry in Japan. Obviously they did a great job selecting most of the English VA for this game, which is rare for Japanese-developed titles, and Emet-Selch is by far the best, even comparable to some of the best Japanese VA out there. His performance is simply stunning in both languages and the direction must have been top notch.
@@SMNtheNight I think the problem here is that we all think it's either one or the other. Becoming attached to one language or the other just leads to biased views and the inability to distinguish greatness from "I PREFER JP/ENG".
japanese VA is always going to be better than english VA. Especially if the game is developed in japan. think about it, These character were made with them speaking japanese in mind first. plus, the japanese VA have a better sense of what the characters personalities because they were there during development. All the mannerisms and expressions are just expressed better in japanese. English VAs are just slapped on there as an afterthought and have to guess the character would sound like.
Not only that, they have to outsource it overseas and there's no studio based director who can correct them on their emotion, inflections for the scene etc. They just have to wing it.
And yet I still bet you would play something like Ghost Of Tsushima in Japanese. Also Ff16 is being recorded and performed in English. If you don't play it in English then your argument lacks conviction.
@@mimitan I watch all my anime in Japanese (Except Cowboy Bebop and Full Metal Alchemist) YOUR opinion on the English dub is YOUR opinion and everytime someone tries to pass off a subjective opinion as objective fact as you are now... Well I'd rather not engage with that that person any longer. It's pointless. Good luck with whatever you have going on in life.
I wouldn't say that. The villain voices maybe, but the English is overall better because of the variety of voices and dialects (as opposed to the basic anime modern speech in the Japanese dialogue), and the way it fits in the fantasy setting. Even some Japanese people admit they like the English voice acting better
Uhhh Feo Ul? Ardbert? Seto? Like the JP dub is consistently "anime decent" whereas the ENG dub has a few bland ones but the standout performances of the ENG dub are either so unique and/or in such key moments that I think it's a much better story experience as a whole.
@@kerrygamer9359 there's quite a few jojos in ffxiv actually. Thancreds va also did Soroban. Yugiri is Hayato Zenos is Mista Hien is Diavolo I believe Yotsuyu is Josuke's mom, I forget her name though
The Japanese voices are awesome compared to the English ones. Especially for lalafels. The English ones makes me cringe hard. Also the English voice actor completely messed up emet and made him too goofy compared to what he actually says.
I disagree. To me, Emet-selch is always about being sinister yet playful until the moment he decides to bring the whole thing down. The JP va makes me think like he has no idea how to even pretend to be cooperative and is much more of a stereotypical evil dude.
@@mimitan Imagine the English subtitles are not even close to what they are saying in Japanese. That's what I'm getting at. You are reading the English script, not a translation of the spoken Japanese. If you are studying Japanese and using the English subtitles of this game as an aid you are doing yourself a great disservice. Pretty sure Urangier doesn't speak olde English the Japanese version.
@@mimitan ??? I watch all my anime subbed except for Cowboy Bebop and Full Metal Alchemist. You calling me a racist for no apparent reason and also treating your opinions like fact turned me off from the conversation. Why should I engage with you? Enjoy the game how you want but honestly leave me be.
I stopped watching this video the moment the JP Emet-Selch started droning on in his highly-stereotypical, extremely-overacted JP anime bad guy voice. How the fuck do YOU play the game with THAT?
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He’s more eccentric and more aaaaangry sounding in the Japanese. “O-Ma-Eh-GAH!” *finger-jab*
Also...That lean thing he does while speaking is so unsettling
I wouldn’t say more eccentric, but definitely more sinister/angry.
More eccentric in some parts, but in a lot of parts he speaks calmly, and same for English meet. Both have their calm and eccentric moments
@@thelittlestgiant he's so much more relatable in English. It really helps sell the idea that we could have been friends if the situation was different.
Im fluent in Japanese. He comes off like he's constantly sarcastic, which is similar in the English I guess. He's a bit more intimidating in the Japanese for me though.
I like how snobbish and annoyed he sounds in English. It's like, my WoL is always being talked down to.
I can't help but process his delivery of お前が！as "OH MY GOD!" à la Joseph Joestar.
Just imagine a journey with Garlean Grandpa except he exclaims Amaurotine expletives time to time.
If you really want to hear Joseph, look no further than ARR Gaius English. Richard epcar voices both characters
I’m fuckin’ rolling, man, lmao. I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who thought this. Usually I don’t mind the JP voices but I just don’t think this one suits Emet-Selch.
If you think Emet's English voice isn't deep enough rest assured his voice gets low. Emet is the narrator for the next expansion's trailer so if you're caught up check out the trailer and hear it for yourself.
my problem with English Emet's voice is that he's too steady and sometimes the emphasis he puts on lines doesn't work.
I’m more surprised with how high-pitched Alisaie’s Japanese voice is. I can see it making a nice contrast with her psyche, though.
Everyone is going to say "their" version is better because that's what they formed emotional attachments to and that's how they defined the character. Everything else is rationalization.
cant deny nor agree, in many cases i find japanese va superior, but there are times when eng comes out on top. For varied reasons, but perhaps this time because i personally just find english voices be more "varied" . In game characters come from every corner of the world and different culture and have different characteristics due to their background. I just find english va more colourful in ff14. But it is true for attachment aswell. I may aswell as longtime weeb just be used to japanese vocals and not find them as interesting as hearing actual quality eng va, which at times can be rare.
Either way what you say is very true, but can be not so much if people truly care(and most will be shallow or just care less) to explain their preferences.
Honestly, yeah, that's how it checks out with me and my GF. We'd both switched to Japanese during ARR because of the bad voice directing for that part, but I switched over to English for HW, cuz I usually play when I'm working overnights doing work-from-home call center work and it's easier for me to listen with an earbud than try and stop to read every line of dialogue. I LOOOOVE Emet's English voice! It's SO GOOD! Honestly, I feel that way about oretty much EVERYONE from HW onward. But the GF didn't, and we were listening to the comparisons last night to see what we'd been experiencing differently, and she could not get used to the English voices AT ALL! XD Meanwhile, I don't think the Japanese is bad, but certain choices BOGGLE ME! Why does Urianger sound so HOT?!? He's supposed to ne an awkward dad! Emet's so much more SUBDUED! Why does Hythlodaeus sound like THAT?!?@?!?!? It made me laugh, how both of us were like "omg NO LOL WTF???" when listening to the other side of things. 😆
@@hellsingmongrel lmao, tru.
@@hellsingmongrel I’m bilingual, I was raised in the US but my parents taught me both English and Japanese growing up. For Hythlodaeus, the Japanese voice acting made sense most to me because he was presented as a softer character who is very kind but likes to mess with Emet, who is much more hard headed and colder. In Japan, when the characters have a softer but witty personality, they usually sound more high pitched and soft, hence why he sounds like that in the Japanese VA. For me the English voice for him was too low and manly. Not saying he’s girly, but he gave me more of an elegant gentlemen vibe and his Japanese voice acting matched better for me as well as the lines he said compared to the English. But I understand to some people it sounds weird especially if you compare the obviously very different voices haha
Just so nobody knows Emet's JP voice is also "oppai moge moge moge" (*`艸´*)
12:13 always cracks me up so much
I LOVE his English voice. It's so dumb and like, cool Grandpa vibes.
Big Brando(Godfather) Vibes
Is it just me, or was the english localization team going for a Loki vibe?
Wish I could tell you, I'm sadly not familiar enough with Loki 😭
@Kerry vans Konsol Kousuke Toriumi voices Zenos in FFXIV, idk why you're hearing it from this guy 😂
Moreso than a Loki vibe, English Emet has some STRONG Ardyn vibes.
Loki and Hades are mythologically speaking very similar, both being Gods of the Underworld and the Dead, both behaving like tricksters and many other things. As Hades lack pop cultural nodes to attach to and therefore lacks an easily recognizable sort of voice, Marvel's Loki was the best thing they could frame within a pop cultural reference.
Jack Sparrow too.
It's actually insane that the Japanese VA of Emet is also Hisoka from 99 hxh. The guy has insane range.
And Pariston from HxH 2011 too haha
I'm playing in my native tongue which is French and his voice is also different from both english and japanese. I would say he's more non chalant, condescending like cynical in its way of saying things but the tone is deeper than in both english and Japanese
I just love Emet-Selchs english voice so much. To me it is the best fitting voice for him.
The first time I heard him in the Japanese voice i thought it was Tomokazu Sugita
Nope it's VA Hiroki Takahashi.
They should do A BIG Anime about the whole Story of FF14. So much Content. Antagonists like Emet-Selch are absolute.
If its Advent Children level of animation I would definitely pay for it
Yoo... I can imagine this would also solve the huge issue with new players having to catch up to the main story. They could watch an anime of the Hydaelen vs Zodiark saga if they wanted a recount of the story up until the end of Endwalker.
Imagine that final scene with Emet being animated by some really good studio... the chills would be intense.
JP Emet sounds way more aggressive than I would have expected. Also a fair bit more condescending, and he was already a patronizing jerk in English. It's probably because of his pronouns, I guess?
I like them both. They have their own flavors. Maybe I feel a smidge more fond of the EN, but that's probably just because that's the voice he was using when I first met him.
I still cry
4:42 "cOoOOoPEraTIoN"
don't mind me just time stamping for personal use
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Came here curious to hear Emet Selch in JP
Left as an Urianger simp💀
wish i knew more japanese, i know just enough to get the feeling that what emet is saying is at least slightly different (seemed to say that urianger had done his studies rather than calling him a historian, frex) but i want to have a better understanding of the differences between the dialogue in each language
ye in that part i think he says somethn more like "well, aren't you well studied. then i assume it'll be fine if i omit the lengthy explanation" most of the translations in shb i feel like are more closely translated compared to other xpacs but there are random lines here and there that completely don't match up - like when he says to thancred "...enough to make me think better of confronting you alone" there is no "alone" in the voiced lines - he says something more akin to "THIS is why i hate confronting (/making opponents out of yall) directly" which better sets up difference he's outlining in terms of approach (indirectly confronting ie: manipulating vauthry vs. directly confronting ie: making him/his plans known)
@@nelmsters aaaah that's really interesting, tysm!
I like English and Japanese voice actor, but my view is about characteristics voice actor not who was better.
Urianger sounds HOT in Japanese, but I prefer the English. :)
He sounds very Urianger in english
He kinda comes across as way too young in the jp xD.
@@koig8393 Yeeees, urianger has so much personality in english xD.
@@narius_jaden215 urianger is young, he is 28
@@Prezzix Yeah the english voices cast almost everyone 10-20 years older than their actual characters. Alisae sounds like a 35 year old mother in english, that straight up confused me
I don't mind either of them tbh. Each gives a really nice take to fleshing Emet-Selch out and I think both are pretty good. Alisae's voice is weird in Japanese. Urianger's is better in Japanese. Alphinaud's is great in both, and love Thancred in any language. Only a few characters I've had issues with choices.
See, Urianger's voice in Japanese makes me laugh, cuz the En VA is kind of smooth and pretty, but the Jp one sounds like they were going for straight up HOT, and it breaks my brain because he's supposed to be the awkward, quiet one! 😆 I mean...he IS hot, but it still doesn't sound right for him to be making a sexy bedroom-voice purr!
@@hellsingmongrel i actually heard it here for the first time and my pants suddenly whooshed out the window before i could even process anything XD
So, I feel like with a character like Emet... the only people who can really compare the voices, are those who are fluent in both languages and familiar with native speakers of both.
As I am English and not fluent in Japanese, I can only talk for the English version. The charater, and his voice, is absolutely chok full of nuance and idocyncracies which I imagine are utterly lost on someone who is not a fluent English speaker, which is why I suspect when I listen to the Japanese dub, I'm probably missing alot of things they are doing with it. He sounds like a somewhat generic anime villian, where as the English voice, whilst definately a voice that sounds like its likely belonging to a villian, is very unique and different and gives you the idea that.. his not a simple as just a bad guy.
I prefer the EN VA, but seeing Hiroki Takahashi at the fanfest do live voice acting and interacting with the other 2 VAs, he seems like such a fun guy :D
Wait, it's the guy who voiced Ryu from Street Fighter ? He sounds so different. Now I imagine Emet-Selch saying "Shoryuken"
@@reijikogarashi1867 According to wikipedia, he does seem to voice Ryu in SF6.
I'm omly here bcs of urianger lmao. While i like both i also have issues with either xD don't like the sound of the english one ,it sounds quite old.. in japanese tho ,same vibes but this..noise he makes when saying "a" is just so frog like ahaha
ngl, I was kinda hoping that they'd have cast Yuuichi Nakamura as Emet-Selch in the Japanese, if only because I get that sort of Hazama-ish vibe from Emet
Yuuichi Nakamura is THANCRED!
I like his voice though because it's Hiroki Takahashi.
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idk... I like english one more. Just personal preference, but I find his EN voice cooler. More emotional.
Hearing the japanese va, I think it fits H---s a lot more than the eng va. For Solus/Emet-Selch though, I find the english va more fitting.
who voiced as Emet-Selch, Hiroki Takahashi?
Yup! And while I do like the English dialogue more overall, when it comes to the villains, the japanese vas nail it, and Hiroki as Emet-Selch absolutely killed it
@@KougaMyazawa i see... I've familiarize his voice.
*HADOUKEN!*
FFXIV JP vs EN is a mixed bag. Some voices (like Emet-Selch) I like a lot more in English, but some others (like Alisaie, though I'm not the biggest fan of her Japanese voice either) dont quite fit in English
Overall though, I'd have to say I prefer the English version overall because the VAs are for the most part relative unknowns (most of them are stage actors by trade) who do a really good job. Gives it more of a unique feel than hearing Japanese seiyuus who, although very good, Im too used to hearing every time I watch anime or play a VN with voice acting. Aside from a few Xenoblade VAs and Game of Thrones actors, it's mostly "fresh" voices in FFXIV, while every Japanese VA I've heard in a lot of other series already. I always like hearing relative unknowns, as long as they deliver (which the London cast largely does in FFXIV)
I always felt like johnny depp would be a good emet selch
I liked the English one a lot they did an amazing job the Japanese was interesting
Reading the comments is... interesting, at the very least. I personally prefer the ENG cast, which surprises me to no end because I usually cannot stand ENG dub in any Japanese media. The only thing I like a bit more in JPN is Urianger's voice, tho i'm still quite satisfied with his eng voice actor. I honestly can't bear listening to JPN Alisaie no matter how much I try to warm up to a 'voice that fits a sixteen year-old' better, or so they say.
I reaally love the direction they went with ENG Emet-Selch. The sardonic and melodramatic way he delivers his lines was a great undertone to how he truly felt about everything. Also given his lore of being a big fan of theatre, it really felt like he was giving the performance of his life.
Then again, at the end of the day, it's all up to personal preferences, and you go for what works for you 💁♀️
I actually think JP urianger is awkward to listen to. Sounds nothing like what the character looks like, sounds more like any generic cool guy xD.
Anybody who thinks a 16 year old girl has to sound like a pre-teen girl has no idea what actual 16 year old girls sound like... or they watch way too much subtitled-only anime.
@@TheRogueX Maybe somewhere in between ENG and JP voice would be perfect.
But in an 'anime' setting (and I personally think her looks are just too much that) , I think her JP voice fits better overall, while the English one clearly sounds like an adult and feels out of place.
@@narius_jaden215 JP Urianger isn't just a 'generic cool guy,' he's eloquent and polite to the point of pretentiousness. Which is fitting for the character, no?
Sure, it's a sexy voice. That, too, is fitting for Urianger in ShB. Dude's hot af.
Nah, eng aliase look waayyy more older like 20s for me, while seriously she still young
Everyone sounds so young in japanese
Alphinaud/Alisaie 17
Tanchred 32
Urianger 29
They are really young and the voices matches their ages.
@@gmichielon Agreed. It's always weird to me how old most of the English voices sound.
Especially the twins who are still teens, in English they sound like grown ups, while Japanese sounds closer to what their age is supposed to be.
I also prefer Urianger's Japanese voice over his English voice. More soft-spoken and sweet instead of the deep voice he has in English. Which is also charming, don't get me wrong, but just so not how I perceive him.
11:57 Oohh maieh gad
英語のエメトセルクもかっこいいけど
日本の声優文化万歳🙌 キャラクターの年齢層に合ってる。
英語版のフェオウルは酷かった
English version of Feo Ul wasn't terrible, she actually did very well, she just has a deeper voice. She's also Scottish which fits, since pixie folklore is mainly from the UK
@@KougaMyazawa 国による好みの違いかな〜
JP voice actors are just built different man
It's called "overacting"
The same shit you'd hear in any anime, it's fine
@@TheRogueX It's overacting? Lol the english ones arent acting enough, they sound like they're reading off paper, not immersive at all.
@@RaijinGod-Indra Acting like a caricature is far more immersion-breaking, but each to their own.
That "OH MAI GA" fucking killed me , I love it
I've only played in Japanese and am properly weirded out by the English voice. The Japanese one is so perfect and whimsical. He kind of gives me Heath Ledger Joker vibes with his eccentrics while playing innocent and weak almost as a mockery of the hero when he's actually the mastermind playing the strings.
yeah the japanese one has been better from the start and it's still not close in EW
@@glenndiddy You do know that the JP doesn't fit for valid reasons don't you?
Im sure it sounds great for weebs, but i have 0 feeling toward the story when hearing it in JP. I greatly prefer english
If u think aliase is 20years old or more then i agrree eng sub better
The thing about it is they missed the mark in Japan despite having the absolute perfect choice standing alongside.
The VA for *Elidibus* is Ishida Akira- mister Sore Wa Himitsu Desu himself. How much better might it have been had they swapped, I wonder?
I'm unfortunately a English voice actor racist like I feel there's been a scarce few that I actually preferred the English dub over the Japanese dub aot is the 1st example I use the English dub was so good while the Japanese lacked certain emotions
eng of of Akisaie at the start sounds like google translate
Hahahahahaha you right, I feel like base meme's
Oh I forgot, thancred Japanese voice actor from jojo part 5 Bruno bucciarati.
I can tell that unlike FFXVI, this game's intended original language is Japanese rather than English, which is why his Japanese voice actually fit his clown-like expression, body language and design.
FFXIV has always been in English. Eorzean alphabet is stylized English and 1.0's VA was only English. You can prefer JP, but the in-universe language is definitely English.
@@queequegtheater6093 I mean the primary language intended for the game's story, rather than the language in-universe. Like Resident Evil games were set in real life America and sometime in different Western countries, and despite almost all of the game have ENG VA only, some of those games have translation errors and changes of script to English version compare to the Japanese version, which were written first.
I just think Japanese Alisaie voice fits better to her character
I like here english one more. Here we have a young woman 17 years of age and still a squeaky voice like an 10 years old.
@@NemoNemuNeme have you heard 17 year old girls? They don't have mother voices. She's no woman, she's a child still of course it's gonna be a more child like voice
@@glenndiddy She's a child but she's not 10 you D U M B A S S, Women can hit puberty, you're not an expert.
@@sleeperboi8701 Bro 17 year olds are kids. There is no argument there.
@@glenndiddy 17 year old are a year away from being in college. They hit puberty at 13, their voices had years to mature, why are you so duumb?
i would use jp if it wasn’t for urianger, his jp voice doesn’t fit at all
His voice is THE BEST for me. Really dude?
@@gmichielon No, it's dogass. Why are you racist?
I think his voice is sexy in Japanese, but he just sounds more like Urianger in English. His is probably my favorite English VA.
I think the english voices sometimes are better in the small moments. Like the actors give away more presonality. But I think in the big important moments they start to fall short.
Hard to beat a good anime scream in the anime scream game
Sure you can... don't do an anime scream.
I actually really prefer jp version over the eng simply because job voice actor make emet sound like he's less goofing around :/
Same, I feel like jp works much better with how they had his characterization in mind.
How anyone can play with English voice acting is beyond me, the performances are lacking to say the least. The game went from jarring to awesome when I switched to jp.
I play with jp voices but i prefer emets eng voice. It fits his body language and overall demeanor. The vibe of someone who's tired of all of the shit and just doing whatever he wants.
English's voice acting is really good imo. I by far preferred Emet-Selch interpretation in english. Just like the comment above said. Dude is so done with this shit and the voice fits so well with the way he moves.
Overall the cast performance is really enjoyable.
@@gandalf8216 Because some people prefer to actually understanding what the character are saying than beautiful gibberish.
Emet and Thancred sound like the same voice actor and Urianger sounds depressed. No contest really, the English voice actors have so much more personality.
i much prefer his english va. japanese va sounds like every villain that has been in every anime. not saying theyre not good, but like, theres nothing unique about it. i thought the va industry there was huge, yet they get the same 2 guys to voice villains
English Emet doesn't sound handsome enough for Endwalker
He wasn't supposed to sound handsome, hell he wasn't even meant to be handsome. His designer made him to look unsettling and evil and unattractive, and was downright surprised when he found out how much people were thirsty for him. I wish I knew where I found the interview article, I can't seem to find it anymore
@@KougaMyazawa but he is called handsome and is pretty handsome in Endwalker, keeping his Shadowbringers facial structure. And TBH, I feel like english Endwalker Emet doesn't feel the character anymore. His lines often sound unnatural and forced
The JP sub sounds...very generic. Feels like they had a checkmark list for fitting in VA tropes.
Gonna be real, prefer the english vas.
I think the japanese are quality vas, but they don't fit my image of these characters at all xD.
French Emett >>> all the other Emett
2:15 how can the dub normies say dub> sub????????????????????????
First time I hear them all in english. I prefer Japanese voices. It fits way better.
Most of the qualities that can be found in the english dub is in the performance of their lines. i give it to their VAs, they're talented.
Regardless as a french player that prefers the japanese dub, i vastly prefer the JP VAs for the same reasons as you.
I found the many liberties taken by the english localization to be extreme and even sometimes bad also by reintepreting dialogues or the characters's personalities, but the problems lies also in the randoms accents comming out of nowhere from my perspective... and that i found down right off-putting.
The VAs also just doesn't seems to fit well with the faces of a lot of said characters, like Alisaie for exemple sounding like a middle-aged 30 years old woman, instead of a 13/16 years old teenager. It just feels inconsistent from a casting stand point.
That being said, these are only my preferences and opinions. More power to anyone that found themselves more comfortable with the english dub, they still drives the points home of the characters, naratives and stories.
@@ProsecutorValentine what random accents?? They're all English, the dub is recorded in a london studio
y'all are trippin' balls. english dub is way better in FFXIV. the voices actually fit. and this comes from someone who ALWAYS watches japanese dub in anime.
@@Omnis.satanica.potestas_omnis People are just biased towards Japanese VA because it's Japan so it's always better logic.
I enjoyed the English VAs more and think their voices fits the characters way better. I would even go as far as to say JP has less emotions (?) somehow, as I think the English VAs have more "unique" voices compared to the JP casting.
Overall both are good (especially compared to the french version, it's so sad to see it butchered).
In the end it just falls to personal preference anyway.
@@Omnis.satanica.potestas_omnis
Nah I have to disagree. The English voice actors fall flat. There's something fake about them. And they frequently go wrong when they try to portray the personality of characters. Take emet for example. He is not supposed to be as goofy as they make him out to be in English. He is intelligent and smug. The English voice actor loses some of his complexity.
みんなどの声が1番とか浅いとこで話してんなｗ
国が違えばキャラに対する印象、それから連想される声なんて全く別物だろ。
英語話す奴らはいつも自分が世界の中心だと勘違いしてるから面白いねw
それな
日本語の細やかなニュアンスとかも知らないからか、指摘してる部分ってほとんど 声のトーン なんだよねw
アニメやらなんやらも英語吹き替えでしか見てないんだろうな😅
I come with a hot take, really don't like the jp voices honestly. Barebones anime voice acting
alisaies voice really grates me. its just cute anime girl number 1249658
would prefer
Miyano Mamoru (aka okabe rintarou's VA) to voice him. Doesn't sounds as good as english dub imo. Not much "personality" there.
I have to disagree, I think Hiroki Takahashi did a great job, which surprised me, considering I only ever knew him as Japan from hetalia
@KougaMyazawa I'm obviously biased, but I think Hiroki Takahashi knocked it out of the park! In more recent years his voice profile type has switched from the softer or more stereotypical shounen characters that I originally found him for, like APH Japan and Joey/Jounouchi from Yugioh, to more mature and often self-serving/villainish characters.
In the past couple years I know he's played (in no particular order):
Ryu (more recent Street Fighter incarnations)
Crimson Rubeus (Sailor Moon Crystal, secondary villain)
Pariston Hill (the newer Hunter x Hunter, friendly on the outside and sneaky/manipulative underneath)
Jo Sawashiro (antagonist from the Yakuza Online mobile game, & minorly in Yakuza 7)
Date Masamune (Nioh DLC lord and boss fight)
Katzelia (Granblue Fantasy, a fallen prince trying to start a war to regain his throne)
Kukri (King of Fighters XIV, mysterious and callous newcomer to the series)
Considering his range from his older roles and his lower voice type than the average in the industry, his newer voice archetype is super appropriate for a villain role like Emet-Selch that's theatrical, prideful, and deeply tragic. I don't think this clip does the range of the role's peaks and valleys enough justice to show that though, but any other clip would probably be spoilers to the highest degree. ^^;
I think the JP Emet sounds very stereotypically "megalomaniac" sort of evil. It threw me off because the english one sounded like someone you'd enjoy having around, even as he played lightly with our lives xD.
@@chrystalclear500 I don't even disagree with that view point. It just didn't come across as the sort of character I think Emet portrays.
@@narius_jaden215 Bro, you don't know the first thing about voice acting
The Japanese voice is so generic. By comparison it feels completely monotone to the English one. Not to say it wasn't well acted, but I'd argue it wasn't well directed.
The Japanese voices sound... so boring. Typical. Like I've heard in 100 different anime over the years. Each fits the exact archetype of the characters and nothing more.
Urianger is hot in both though :P
I completely disagree, and it may be because I understand a fair amount of the Japanese. There is a lot of nuance in the Japanese VA because all of them are quite skilled in their field, as it's a huge industry in Japan. Obviously they did a great job selecting most of the English VA for this game, which is rare for Japanese-developed titles, and Emet-Selch is by far the best, even comparable to some of the best Japanese VA out there. His performance is simply stunning in both languages and the direction must have been top notch.
@@SMNtheNight I think the problem here is that we all think it's either one or the other. Becoming attached to one language or the other just leads to biased views and the inability to distinguish greatness from "I PREFER JP/ENG".
japanese VA is always going to be better than english VA. Especially if the game is developed in japan. think about it, These character were made with them speaking japanese in mind first. plus, the japanese VA have a better sense of what the characters personalities because they were there during development. All the mannerisms and expressions are just expressed better in japanese. English VAs are just slapped on there as an afterthought and have to guess the character would sound like.
Not only that, they have to outsource it overseas and there's no studio based director who can correct them on their emotion, inflections for the scene etc. They just have to wing it.
That and English actors/directors always get the wrong stereotype .
Completely agree
And yet I still bet you would play something like Ghost Of Tsushima in Japanese.
Also Ff16 is being recorded and performed in English. If you don't play it in English then your argument lacks conviction.
@@mimitan I watch all my anime in Japanese (Except Cowboy Bebop and Full Metal Alchemist)
YOUR opinion on the English dub is YOUR opinion and everytime someone tries to pass off a subjective opinion as objective fact as you are now... Well I'd rather not engage with that that person any longer. It's pointless.
Good luck with whatever you have going on in life.
I think this settles it, that the Japanese voices in 14 are far superior to English.
I wouldn't say that. The villain voices maybe, but the English is overall better because of the variety of voices and dialects (as opposed to the basic anime modern speech in the Japanese dialogue), and the way it fits in the fantasy setting. Even some Japanese people admit they like the English voice acting better
Also Elidibus sounds way better in english for his last monologue
Uhhh Feo Ul? Ardbert? Seto?
Like the JP dub is consistently "anime decent" whereas the ENG dub has a few bland ones but the standout performances of the ENG dub are either so unique and/or in such key moments that I think it's a much better story experience as a whole.
@@KougaMyazawa you forgot, thancred water Japanese voice actor from jojo part 5 Bruno bucciarati voice actor.
@@kerrygamer9359 there's quite a few jojos in ffxiv actually. Thancreds va also did Soroban.
Yugiri is Hayato
Zenos is Mista
Hien is Diavolo
I believe Yotsuyu is Josuke's mom, I forget her name though
I dont know what yall smokin, but jp is definitely NOT better than eng. Sounds like a generic japanese anime cast.
The Japanese voices are awesome compared to the English ones. Especially for lalafels. The English ones makes me cringe hard.
Also the English voice actor completely messed up emet and made him too goofy compared to what he actually says.
I disagree. To me, Emet-selch is always about being sinister yet playful until the moment he decides to bring the whole thing down. The JP va makes me think like he has no idea how to even pretend to be cooperative and is much more of a stereotypical evil dude.
So untrue lol.
His movement makes him look goofy so he should sound goofy
How anyone can prefer the English dub is beyond me. I cringe every time I hear it.
Same lol
It's a good dub with a good script. You have no idea what is even being said in Japanese. Lol
@@mimitan Imagine the English subtitles are not even close to what they are saying in Japanese. That's what I'm getting at. You are reading the English script, not a translation of the spoken Japanese.
If you are studying Japanese and using the English subtitles of this game as an aid you are doing yourself a great disservice.
Pretty sure Urangier doesn't speak olde English the Japanese version.
@@mimitan Enjoy it your way. Try not to pass off subjective opinion as objective fact.
Enjoy your life.
@@mimitan ???
I watch all my anime subbed except for Cowboy Bebop and Full Metal Alchemist. You calling me a racist for no apparent reason and also treating your opinions like fact turned me off from the conversation.
Why should I engage with you? Enjoy the game how you want but honestly leave me be.
God, it's so awful. How the fuck do people play this game dubbed?
You're a furry. Opinion ignored
I stopped watching this video the moment the JP Emet-Selch started droning on in his highly-stereotypical, extremely-overacted JP anime bad guy voice. How the fuck do YOU play the game with THAT?