War in Middle-earth - The Battle of Sudden Flame

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  • Опубликовано: 2 апр 2020
  • In this video, we look at the Battle of Sudden Flame, otherwise known as the Dagor Bragollach. This battle was one of the largest in Middle-earth's history, and saw the wars of the First Age turn firmly in Morgoth's favour.
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Комментарии • 32

  • @Bigreginald0323
    @Bigreginald0323 3 года назад +32

    I see a lot of people ask “what if Fëanor survived” but I’m curious on a “what if Fingolfin waited and regrouped instead of challenging Morgoth...” something along those lines.

  • @AussieDisciple
    @AussieDisciple 4 года назад +21

    IIRC, Tolkien said, in The Silmarillion, that Morgoth would'v had TOTAL VICTORY if he had to have waited a few more, short years...
    but .... "his hate overcame his counsel"

  • @BrettCaton
    @BrettCaton 2 года назад +3

    Morgoth: Haha! A mortal challenges me? Owwww, me bloody foot!
    I do like the way he never lost that limp.

  • @nikowoods5794
    @nikowoods5794 4 года назад +33

    This battle has a lot of WW1 influence in it, more specifically the battle of Verdun, aka the meat grinder as it is known on both sides. No doubt JRRT must've heard some horrible stories about the battle from fellow soldiers back in the battlefields of the first world war, at a time when the idea for his world in the Tolkien Universe was first conceived.

    • @keyboarddancers7751
      @keyboarddancers7751 3 года назад +8

      Just think, if one bullet had travelled in a slightly different direction or a shell exploded a few yards closer during the four months of the Battle of the Somme, Tolkien could have been killed just over a hundred years ago and nobody would know his name. My life (I'm not a young man) would've been altered by the absence of Tolkien's writings.

  • @stevedefazio3140
    @stevedefazio3140 7 месяцев назад +2

    Here's a good speculative question I hope you can dig into. How did Morgoth supply his huge armies? In LOTR, it's clearly explained that slaves farming in Nurn supplied Sauron's armies, but Morgoth is up there in the frozen north. Presumably no farms up there, and my sense of Angband is basically that they're all in caves and tunnels under the fortress.

  • @charlottefaye1940
    @charlottefaye1940 Год назад +2

    This was such a helpful companion to the corresponding chapter in Silmarillian! Thank you!

  • @kossend1
    @kossend1 3 года назад +3

    I only came across your channel a couple of days ago, but loving the content. It's also nice to hear a fellow Australian accent in a Middle Earth context.

  • @Akechi910
    @Akechi910 4 года назад +11

    Do a what if Feanor survived the balrogs if his sons caught up with him in time and drove the enemy away SOMEHOW(we don't need details) and retreated and regrouped, what became of the future of the story?

  • @joshthomas-moore2656
    @joshthomas-moore2656 4 года назад +4

    Great video also thank you for the colours around the pictures really helped thank you also keep up the good work

  • @guille3622
    @guille3622 3 года назад +2

    This is an excellent video, even though you forgot to mention that Maedhros could recover the Aglon's pass, so Morgoth could not attack by there

  • @arnabbanerjee5608
    @arnabbanerjee5608 4 года назад +3

    When you do the Last Alliance of Elves and Men, please do a detailed analysis of their army sizes. possibly you can also do a separate video on how large was the last alliance.

  • @GIGroundNPound
    @GIGroundNPound 4 года назад +2

    Make more of these man! Wonderful vids!!

  • @talion6642
    @talion6642 4 года назад +18

    May u do a what if Fëanor survived

    • @Akechi910
      @Akechi910 4 года назад

      Finally somebody fucking said that, thank you sir.

    • @Muradmb1986
      @Muradmb1986 4 года назад

      that would be great , really .

  • @Travis42069
    @Travis42069 3 года назад +2

    I challenge the spaghetti monster to single combat quite often and I haven't lost since I found out I was lactose intolerant.

  • @amsfountain8792
    @amsfountain8792 2 года назад +3

    I wonder how Morgoth could maintain and feed an army so big. 300.000 orcs are a lot of mouths to feed even in Thangorodrim.

    • @jamaigar
      @jamaigar 11 месяцев назад +2

      There was probably a lot of cannibalism involved. "Kills the elves so you get to eat them" sounds like a great motivator.

  • @MJC1891
    @MJC1891 3 месяца назад

    7:03 such a beast. Love fingolfin

  • @sageofcaledor8188
    @sageofcaledor8188 2 года назад +1

    Great video!

  • @duckymcpoggy9203
    @duckymcpoggy9203 Год назад

    What is the music used at 3:50? Have no idea if you’ll see this since it’s 3 years old lol

  • @kaletovhangar
    @kaletovhangar Год назад +1

    Literally description of ww1 battle minus trenches (maybe those forward positions of elves and men were fortified,but got blasted by ashes of Thangorodrim).
    Also,it seems that this entire war was just an game of rear guard for free peoples of Beleriand.No way they could win this war against such an hatred and brutality.

  • @dimore2053
    @dimore2053 4 года назад

    Thank you so much Thare are little lort youtude channels adout the frist age

  • @bertsmulders1173
    @bertsmulders1173 4 года назад

    You really should make a discord server!

  • @palantir6165
    @palantir6165 3 года назад

    dont think nargothrond send 25k. In the Silm it says that Finrod didnt want to go, but he let a small force despart (they are extraordinary personal reasons to)

    • @DarthGandalfYT
      @DarthGandalfYT  3 года назад +7

      You might be thinking of the Nirnaeth Arnoediad where Nargothrond (under Orodreth) only sent a small force due to the deeds of Celegorm and Curufin. In the Dagor Bragollach, Finrod was hastening north with his entire army because he was desperate to save his brothers in Dorthonion.

  • @lanarwensalmo3415
    @lanarwensalmo3415 2 года назад

    Who was the elvish prince to die before Aegnor and Angrod?

    • @DarthGandalfYT
      @DarthGandalfYT  2 года назад

      Argon - Fingolfin's youngest son. He's so unimportant that he doesn't even appear in the Silmarillion.

  • @Lampredi4
    @Lampredi4 4 года назад

    First!!

  • @BL-bg1fj
    @BL-bg1fj 4 года назад

    Fourth!!!!