A watchmakers view on the Antikythera Mechanism - Naaa bring Buzz! 🤣🤣

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
  • Having studying this mechanism for years, now I finally was able to see it for real. Even more impressive and it changed my view!
    Greek National Archeology Museum in Athens
    ‪@ChronoglideWatchmaking‬
    #antikytheramechanism #athens #greece #archeology #roman #watchmaking #wondersofworld #worldwonders #chronoglide

Комментарии • 55

  • @tweedrhino
    @tweedrhino 6 месяцев назад +9

    Suggest you watch the Clickspring RUclips series on hand making probably the most accurate version of the Antikytheria Mechanism using as historical methods as possible.

  • @IMakeWatches
    @IMakeWatches 6 месяцев назад +4

    Wonderful analysis, Kalle! Thanks for sharing!

  • @anthonycaryl1079
    @anthonycaryl1079 6 месяцев назад +7

    Fascinating stuff, I've followed the Antikythera Mechanism's story for ages

  • @rehajm
    @rehajm 6 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you - so enjoyed hearing your take...especially fun it's a hot take outside the museum...Clearly, early civilizations were concerned about the service interval being too long ...

  • @gioc4596
    @gioc4596 6 месяцев назад +2

    Great that you got to see the Antikythera and we that is a great explanation of the system.

  • @Beechhill
    @Beechhill 6 месяцев назад +2

    Cheers! Excellent and intelligent as always!

  • @MichaelMitchell-vk9lk
    @MichaelMitchell-vk9lk 6 месяцев назад +2

    Glad you got to see your bucket list item,congratulations Kalle

  • @timstoffel4799
    @timstoffel4799 6 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the Antikythera mechanism! The question that I have for you concerns the shape of the gear teeth. As you are well aware, most modern gears use involute shaped teeth. The Antikythera mechanism used triangular teeth (probably because that was the only logical shape at the time). Could it be that triangular gear teeth are more forgiving of flaws on inaccuracies that the mechanism could have been functional to at least some degree? It is difficult to believe that the device was nonfunctional. In fact, some researchers have noted that some parts showed stress from use.

    • @ChronoglideWatchmaking
      @ChronoglideWatchmaking  6 месяцев назад +2

      Interesting is that with these triangular teeth there will be far more sliding action during rotation thus wear. I'm not disputing that it might have worked, but there is a lot of friction in this design for it to be practical in use over a long period of time. That's all. Thnx! Kalle

  • @ElderPinto254
    @ElderPinto254 6 месяцев назад +4

    prachtig kalle, fijne vakantie.. calculeert de cyclus van de kosmos ongelooflijk dat het zo oud is en toen is gemaakt..

    • @phouliscostantinou1767
      @phouliscostantinou1767 6 месяцев назад +3

      It was imported from Switzerland or Germany😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @WristwatchMedic1953
    @WristwatchMedic1953 6 месяцев назад +2

    I enjoyed hearing your opinion on the device. I agree with you.

  • @metalmanipulator7210
    @metalmanipulator7210 6 месяцев назад +3

    It's official, I'm jealous! Congratulations on checking an item off your bucket list! Must've been something to see.

  • @janwillemvandekamp6913
    @janwillemvandekamp6913 6 месяцев назад +5

    Did hou see the videos of Clickspring the process of making one

  • @thecleaner4971
    @thecleaner4971 6 месяцев назад +2

    Excellent content as always ❤️

  • @erikwinkler
    @erikwinkler 6 месяцев назад +3

    Interessant.
    Ik ga op zoek naar tandwielen in de geschiedenis.

  • @adfpv1153
    @adfpv1153 6 месяцев назад +2

    Fascinating Kalle thanks dude hope you have an awesome time. 😁👍👍👍

  • @akhtaralimalik989
    @akhtaralimalik989 6 месяцев назад +2

    Hi Kalle,
    Good to see you here in Greece.
    I love your explanation of this clock “Antik ythera.
    I have also thought the same way about this Antikythera
    I am so pleased that you share my thoughts.
    Love the way you explain this very complex subject ...❤
    Enjoy your time with your partner.

  • @rocketpunch12210
    @rocketpunch12210 6 месяцев назад +2

    Interesting insights!

  • @ferguscosgrave7510
    @ferguscosgrave7510 6 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks

  • @sailwesterly5444
    @sailwesterly5444 6 месяцев назад +2

    My thoughts entirely - a demonstation model of some kind. You said you wouldn't talk about date - I think that's wise. It is what it is and should be appreciated for that.

  • @geirwickstrm9162
    @geirwickstrm9162 6 месяцев назад +2

    You just went to look at one of the things that interest me most in Greece.

  • @electrictao5180
    @electrictao5180 6 месяцев назад +1

    Interesting device! The likely reason that this device cannot be made in a modular manner is that the natural world itself is interdependent.
    In the real world everything is tied together, much like these gears. Perhaps the makers of this device understood something we have forgotten.
    Brilliant and very enthusiastic video! Thanks.

    • @neil4701
      @neil4701 6 месяцев назад +1

      That may have been the thought process that led to it being made in a non-modular manner, but does that mean it couldn't have been made in a modular way? All functions might be interdependent when the mechanism is operational, but ultimately it's a model of the natural world. Could it not have have been created and assembled in a modular way (theoretically)?

    • @electrictao5180
      @electrictao5180 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@neil4701Well Neil, I'm no professional physics major, but I suspect it would be easier to demonstrate the workings of a multi-bodied system, such as the earth/moon/planets/sun as a whole, rather than attempting to "isolate" or separate these various forces, as they are in reality simply one unified force or system. Nothing is isolated in reality. Thanks for your interest and comment! I welcome any more thoughts on this that you may have.

    • @neil4701
      @neil4701 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@electrictao5180I think you could be right, at least for people living then. I think your comment about the makers possibly understanding something we have forgotten is very interesting, although I'm tempted to express it slightly differently. Perhaps the only way they were able to understand it (or a model of it) was as a whole system. We now tend to see eveything in a reductionist, modular manner, which makes the whole easier to understand in some ways but more difficult to understand in others. Perhaps the most interesting thing about the mechanism is the insghts it gives us into how these people thought about complexity?

    • @neil4701
      @neil4701 6 месяцев назад +1

      What I mean is... it's possible to gain a total understanding of the whole system (including all of the interactions between parts we might try to isolate) from different directions. We tend to work out how the modules function first, then make allowances for how the functions of these modules change when they are all fitted together into an interdependent whole. Maybe the ancients did it the other way around, making the concept of an independent module inconceivable.

    • @electrictao5180
      @electrictao5180 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@neil4701Well said Neil.I suspect they saw the world differently. Perhaps it was a more holistic point of view. We see "things" as separate. It's a matter of perspective. However, perhaps our beliefs on separateness causes it own complexities and problems. Who knows? Thanks!

  • @IM-lf5qp
    @IM-lf5qp 6 месяцев назад +2

    Great video, enjoy your vacation!

  • @Restoration_watch
    @Restoration_watch 6 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you very much for your help

  • @watchwhisper
    @watchwhisper 6 месяцев назад +2

    Very good video

  • @ioakimmakis9288
    @ioakimmakis9288 6 месяцев назад +2

    you pronounce the word ΑΝΤΙΚΥΘΗΡΑ very very well... congratulations

  • @user-et4dr7dm8d
    @user-et4dr7dm8d 19 дней назад +1

    It's the time machine from Lost !!

  • @AntonyThorburn
    @AntonyThorburn 6 месяцев назад +2

    They knew more than we give them credit for.

  • @luke8443
    @luke8443 6 месяцев назад +2

    I agree with your opinion too ❤ the narrative doesn't make sense sometimes 👀

  • @_GOD_HAND_
    @_GOD_HAND_ 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks, Kalle. I hope you took some photos/video from inside the exhibition.

  • @waldoroeg9604
    @waldoroeg9604 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks fascinating as always

  • @Texelschade333
    @Texelschade333 6 месяцев назад +2

    The wish is the father of the thought...also true sometimes in archseology

  • @dodabartman123
    @dodabartman123 6 месяцев назад +2

    Thank for you expertize why do you think they didn't use brass?

  • @the-chillian
    @the-chillian 6 месяцев назад +4

    I don't see how this mechanism, or even the simplified version you suggest, could ever have been very useful. Certainly some of these things are interesting, but hardly of great moment. However, it's worth remembering that astrology was taken very seriously back then, and a tool that could model the positions of the planet relative to the zodiac at any time in the future or past would have been very useful in their work.

  • @equaliser2265
    @equaliser2265 6 месяцев назад +2

    Don't they show it working as an astronomical planetary working model ?

  • @craciunu
    @craciunu 6 месяцев назад +1

    👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @marksun.7861
    @marksun.7861 6 месяцев назад +1

    ⚙️⚙️⚙️⚙️⚙️👍

  • @andyyoung3233
    @andyyoung3233 6 месяцев назад +4

    Hi Kalle, Love your channel but I have to disagree with you on this, I think they must of had many of those some less complicated for daily use this seems to be every complication put all together and as for why none survive because they have recycled the material it's only now we throw things away in those days you used everything many times also there's no way that was a first attempt and it survived that's just my opinion great stuff and hope you had a nice holiday.
    Andy.

  • @cashau2965
    @cashau2965 6 месяцев назад +2

    ....you shouldn't drink so much Ouzo Kalle 😂😂😂😂😂....

  • @williamdevlin5439
    @williamdevlin5439 6 месяцев назад +1

    Came from a fallen spacecraft.Navigation aid?

  • @tomhohum4275
    @tomhohum4275 6 месяцев назад +2

    Aliens must have produced this to confuse the human race🤣

  • @thomasnuyts9725
    @thomasnuyts9725 6 месяцев назад +2

    Just an antique cheap tourist replica, wait until we dig up the original! No wonder someone threw it overboard

  • @SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands
    @SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands 6 месяцев назад +2

    Geen wolken??

  • @toddyrocks
    @toddyrocks 6 месяцев назад +1

    certainly an out of place artifact !!