Ancient Aliens is a white supremacist theory, to discredit Africans and South Americans. Notice how they don’t question any European ancient monuments. In reality the Greeks learnt from the Egyptians, and the Romans learnt from the Greeks (and Egyptians). Why would 3 foot Grays fly for hundreds of years to earth, to show 6 foot men how to stack stones and shovel cement? Surely aliens would have shared something more useful, like steel framed or RC framed structures, curtain walling and open plan buildings?
Archimedes is fascinating to me because he's one of the greatest scientific thinkers in history but had virtually no impact due to historical events that happened after his death. The guy invented a computer and discovered calculus in the 200s BC and then everyone just...forgot, right up until these concepts were independently rediscovered 1800 years later.
You can see the palpitating excitement in Professor Miano's eyes when Tony Freeth speaks about the artifact and its origins. That's a guy who loves what he does and who definitely chose the right profession.
@@hurdygurdyguy1 what? You don’t you want another 74 seasons of the Oak Island mystery?!?!?!? Perhaps a couple dozen spin offs about that one bit of wood they found 20 years ago. 10/10 content 👌
The most interesting aspect of the Antikythera Mechanism is that this sort of thing exists in a context, meaning that the required technology and engineering skills by necessity must predate the artifact. As is the case with the stonework of Göbekli Tepe, it requires some revised thinking about what ancient people were capeable of (without necessarily jumping to any conclusions about the purposes of any of these ancient artifacts).
An abacus is actually a digital computer. The beads represent digits. I can't believe I am actually correcting WoA. A slide rule is a better example of an analog computer. Length along the components is an analog for the logarithm of the number. Adding the lengths together by sliding on scale against the other yields the logarithm of the product.
The add-ons at the end of the presentation concerning the documented proof from original sources of the existence of similar devices plus the direct connections to Archimedes was great icing on an already delicious cake. Thanks.
I'd imagine this variety of videos that just cover current historical research aren't great for raking in the views, but personally they are my favorite style. It is always nice to get a little peak into what historians are discussing in a different field.
The RUclips channel Clickspring is from a skilled artsian that has made one himself, and has a 10 part series on making it: ruclips.net/user/Clickspringvideos The fire control computers, on old battleships, are mechanical analog computers. I've used analog electronic computers, which were used as late as the early 1970s. By the time I used one, it was already well obsolete (1980s), but it was a good tool for circuit theory. We performed a view labs that used them in their original intent, of solving differential equations, by having the computer draw the solutions in graphical form.
@@syindrome from what I can gather. He had to halt the series so he could have his paper/ research peer reviewed. Ima guess he stumbled across something that nobody else understood or could explain.
Those of us who stuck through this whole video have a true passion for History. You're all scholars and are highly academic in my opinion. The one with a will to acquire knowledge is a sophisticated individual with a capacity for wisdom, regardless of their credentials. 👌🏽
I'm enjoying the interview, thanks! I'll also have to track down the film you used for the underwater footage. The Antikythera mechanism is a valuable reminder that the ancients had the same stuff between their ears as we do. Sure, we have the advantage of accumulated knowledge and material technologies that enable further technologies, but it's clear that our ancient forebears were the same clever species as ourselves.
We are actually DECLINING in intelligence & creativity, & other dysgenic ways, since about 1850 when it peaked (the trend was the opposite for most of the past 1000yrs at least). According Drs Edward Dutton & Michael Woodley of Menie, this accelerating decline will soon have average human IQ back where it was in the 1200s. Dysgenic decline is not uncommon in the winter of a civilisation, but what we’re experiencing now seems to be unprecedented in severity, scale & speed.
Excellent presentation David. Papus of Alexandria records a thriving group of artisans known as "sphere makers" who produced astronomical devices. Nastulus of Baghdad produced a treatise, which survives, showing a complex geared mechanism functioning as a calender, not as complex as the Antikythera mechanism. Michael Wright's replica of the Antikythera is really impressive, whether or not the latest investigations question some of Michael's details of construction there is no doubt he did a wonderful job.
Excellent interview and presentation. This is definitely one of those finds that you hear a lot about from the non-academic Utubers out there, and it's nice to see this broken down buy the person who knows it best. Please keep making all of your content, it's all excellent.
Fantastic talk! I've been fascinated by the Antikythera mechanism ever since I first heard about it. Even once tried to build a lego mechanism that duplicates it's function, but it didn't work so well. More videos about artifacts, please!
I watched the pre-cursor to this vid, and read every single question. World of Antiquity has answered all them all if you watch the whole thing. I think Dr Freeh's analogy to a Patek Philippe watch is very apt. In 2,200 years, how many Patek Philippe watches would survive ?....I think we can apply the same logic to the Antikythera mechanism. We are lucky to have this one example. Great stuff WOA, peace to ya.
Stanford did a video about this device in 2016 that was about as thorough as possible. I highly recommend it to anyone interested in the subject. The video has over 8 million views and it was actually recommended after this video even though I've already watched it twice. I'm watching this for any potential new details in the last 6 years and because I like your style of videos and I'd like to see your take on it.
This is my new fav history channel. The research, the guests, the production quality of the video. Literally what I always wanted on RUclips. Thank you
People forget that three or four hundred years ago, without "advanced" tools or machines, our ancestors made some incredible things. There's a group in France building a castle according to medieval techniques, and they have to re-learn some things that we, as "modern" as we are, have forgotten.
Indeed, people think in terms of 'lost knowledge ', or 'lost technology ', when 99.9% of the time, what you're actually dealing with, is forgotten skills.
Tony Freeth is such a nice guy. I'm glad you asked the question about it being geocentric or heliocentric and the explanation of Freeth afterward was most logical.
As a Computer Scientist, I feel the need to mention the distinction between computation and calculation. Computation implies iteration (loops) and selection (conditions). So, the Antikythera Mechanism is "just" an impressive calculator. The first true analog computer would have been the Babbage Difference Engine (though Babbage only designed it, and it was never built in his lifetime). That said, I don't mind historians using computation as a synonym for calculation. I doubt anyone who is aware of the difference will be mislead into thinking the Antikythera Mechanism was even more sophisticated than it was. Also, the distinction between computation and calculation is relatively recent (at one time, a computer was a person who performed calculations).
so that fact that it determines solar eclipses by date (including in the future) along with lunar positions (also accounting for slight progression of the moon as it goes around the Earth) means it's a calculator??? i'm not sure i agree with that....
the word computer was originally a job title and words have usage, not meaning but I have similar reactions when non-musicians use musical terms wrong...
@@davidmiller9485no, the fact that it _calculates_ makes it a calculator. The gears are just mathematical relations. “Three times this gives five time that” etc.
Thanks for this video. There's a very interesting book by the physicist Lucio Russo (University of Rome Tor Vergata) titled "The Forgotten Revolution: How Science Was Born in 300 BC and Why It Had to Be Reborn"; according to the author the hellenistic sciences where very advanced, but didn't succeed to survive (and he explains why).
David Miamo, you are absolutely brilliant and make history interesting and worthwhile. Because of you, I unsubscribed to Uncharted X and several other channels that are speculative and dishonest. Thanks for sharing your wisdom, knowledge, plus understanding and for sharing this with your viewers.
Another outstanding video, and wonderful to hear from an expert who has spent so long studying the mechanism. Seem like a good example of how mainstream academia does challenge itself and revise its theories too. Very fascinating to no Ancient (not so advanced) Technology :D
This is just incredible! I haven't finished the video yet, but I can't wait to tell you how much I am loving it!! Thank you so much Dr. Milano for setting up this interview and Thank you Dr. Freeth for sharing your research with us. It's just amazing. Mind blowing on many levels. 🤓🤩🤯
Congratulations Professor Miano on presenting this fascinating interview with Dr Freeth who has a memory for names that defies belief and is a tribute to the memories of so many people whom he quoted that contributed in various ways to the research of the Antikythera Mechanism. It is amazing how much research has been done; it's like listening to a detective sifting through the facts to find out how a crime was committed. What we do know about ancient Greece and Rome is that less than 1% of all artifacts have come down to us. Sadly, so utterly sadly, hearing how the bronze was recycled of course means that mondern civlization has been robbed of artistic treasures and complicated devices that have been melted away for all time.
Just this bare presentation here, involving the context and explication of the _Antikythera Device,_ is awesome. I am not at all being ironic or disingenuous at all when I wonder if you indeed know how little “signal to noise“ ratio has there been of discussions of this topic and device. I am not an academic, but have followed the matter of this discovery and investigation of this thing for many decades. Your presentation of this -- and antique subjects in general -- is a "breath of fresh air". How is it that this is so rare?
A truly excellent interview! With great information that is more detailed than what I had previously been aware of (granted I hadn't looked into this in well over a decade)
So good to hear Tony describe his lifes passion in every detail complete& unedited by a film maker. Best bit of utube content in months. More of this sort of thing please. Kudos for posting it.
would you consider doing something like the last 5 minutes of this video but as a stand-alone, short overview of more topics? i think a lot of people would enjoy that
I saw the Nova episode about this device & it was truly fascinating how they figured out what it was, what it did & how it worked. Definitely recommend watching it. Nova & Secrets of the Dead have some great ancient history specials among their excellent catalog of science & history docs.
This was fascinating- thanks so much! I'm particularly grateful for the argument that it was not a navigation device; I'm a little behind on the state of the research. I'm wondering if people in possession of such a device might also have been tempted to use the eclipse prediction portion to impress the plebs and cash in... Most wouldn't doubt that you were a magician!
Technology advances while we stay the same. I think your point is a fair bet shall we double the odds if I can eat the moon demonstrably on the date I choose 🙊🙈🙉
It occurs to me that the mechanism could function as an accurate clock while at sea. This would allow for the calculation of Longitude and Latitude. It could explain some of the old maps that have been found. Instead of directly keeping time. The analog computer can give you accurate time based on celestial alignment. Thus allowing for maps having Long and Lat marked on them. I don't know if the device corrected for distance traveled but it wouldn't need to. It'd be accurate enough to place a few grids on a naval chart. Once you see the pattern you could extrapolate the grid out for the whole chart and by combining charts to others. They'd only be missing a Sexton.
Hello Dr. Miano. I am so enlightened by all of your videos and I really appreciate your point of view and your interactive presence here on RUclips. As well as your way of interacting with as many Alternative theories and cultures as you have in your past videos. I was raised let's just say Christian and very quickly fell into the ancient alien theory as it came out in the early 2000s for my generation on History channel. For nearly two decades I have done extensive historical research throughout pretty much every era. Mainly because I was so interested in the pre history high society theories. I have heard pretty much every single one and I have attempted to educate myself as much as I can on as many as I can. Then also at the same time I have done the same amount of research throughout verified historical facts. I truly appreciate your interaction within the alternative fields for it has brought me far more into the middle and has fed my intrigue. Also just a cherry in top for you you have helped me ascertain a way of identifying all the cherry picked garbage out in the ether these days. Thank you and more of your peers should follow your engagement tactic.
So I should also add that this video on this particular subject is the most informative I've seen on this mechanism. You are so so much for people that appreciate facts over speculation.
Wouldn't it make sense that an astrologer would make use of this device? Many, if not most, ancients believed in some sort of astrology and this device would be useful for someone conducting those kinds of calculations. Given the convoluted nature of astrology, this mechanism's complexity could be easily explained. Thanks David for this fantastic video!
It remains astonishing to me that a device of this sophistication existed without apparently going anywhere in terms of technological development, even given how difficult they were to make. Something like that in the Renaissance would have been a part of a building wave of new ideas and supporting manufacture.
Making simplistic statements and resorting to a deference to antiquity fallacy, is an interesting way to try and detract from the brilliance of these ancient Hellene/Greek inventors. By your logic, anyone who travels anywhere can have there achievements appropriated by the destination country, by simply saying, they must have learned something. This logic/zeitgeist is not scientific, as it is unfalsifiable, and relies not on evidence, but simply conjecture and presuppositions of technological inferiority of civilizations based on age. What evidence is there for Ancient ethnic Egyptians creating Gears, pistons, siphons, etc? What evidence is there for Egyptian science regarding this type of mechanization? And where is your source that confirms that Archimedes went to Egypt? Let alone learned all that he invented, like displacement theory, proto-calculus theories and advanced mechanical engineering with gears... This was a bit longer than I expected, but simplistically simple minded sorts of jabs and snide remarks based on a lack of evidence really grinds my gears (pun intended).
@@christopherzantiotis You may want to read more about Archimedes and his times. While I do think it is possible that Archimedes did come up with his inventions on his own. It is also worth noting that he did study in Egypt along with other famous Greek scholars of his time. This very likely assisted him, to what degree it is impossible to say. I am hypothesizing that the Egyptians had some great books, the source of these books themselves may not have even been Egyptian, but from across the world. Some Greek scholars read them and it inspired rapid progress for the Greeks. Much the same thing that happened during the Renaissance in Europe when they started translating old Greek books.
Thank You Dr. Miano for another wonderful and inciteful video!! You did a fantastic job of asking just the right questions at the perfect time and you allowed Dr. Freeth enough time to explain the answers. Rare in today's world!! Great Job David!!!
I dearly wish I had been taught about this device when I was in school many years ago - have typically unyielding mainstream historical thought to thank for that unforgivable omission, I suppose, in spite of Cicero’s own testimony. I have no doubt my interest in Greek knowledge would have been multiplied 100-fold knowing they had this kind of technology at their fingertips - technology that had never been replicated in such detail, even up to our modern times, it bears mentioning.
As a person studying History for 40 years now (and certainly knowing about the Antikythera) > this is beyond Stunning. Your opening up a lifetime of wonder if you choose to open the door on this fantastic piece. This is the Pyramids on Steroids.
Thank you for putting this together. I must say that your presentation style is, by far, the most enjoyable to experience compared with other YT history channels. Not to say those other channel aren't any good. You don't come across as condescending, etc. even though you seem to be sitting with a brain brimming with ancient history. Thanks again.
Predicting the placement of celestial bodies & the ability to track their current patterns is very helpful to scheduling, navigating & planning in a maritime or desert culture. I imagine it could have been kept in a navigation center, temple or library for people to consult. An oracle may tell an ambitious general, "Have your armies follow Mars in the morning and you will reach your enemy. But you must complete your campaign before the setting of Venus, lest winter overtake you." Also cities can plan for festivals & celestial occurrences accordingly. Star charts could be updated for the various seasons, etc.
One thing worth noting. No other same piece has ever been found although numerous shipwrecks of the same era, or older have been traced or recovered. That is a mystery of its own.
No mystery. Why would you expect there to be more? It wasn't mass-produced, it was a novelty luxury item, meant to display one's wealth and learnedness. We have written accounts that commissioning educational clockwork devices was not uncommon among the wealthy elite. Other than that, it was of little if any practical use to anyone.
Dr. David Miano, thank you so much for the uploads on your channel. I've learned so much about the world of antiquity, ancient history and myths on your channel. I've found them fascinating. I really appreciate your work and the knowledge you share. Thanks a lot and keep these uploads coming! Best of luck with your channel going forward!
It is kind of odd the way some people think the Antikythera mechanism (or other things) "came out of nowhere" or are frauds or evidence of hilarious "theories" which shall not be named. The Greeks and Greek-influenced world had some amazing thinkers, mathematicians, craftsmen, and engineers. While it seems these abilities and knowledge were frequently relegated to, and used for, mysticism and religious experience, we have know they did these things for ages. (Of course, being smart was not limited to one corner of the Mediterranean.)
So much credit is given to the Greeks for their advancement of science, yet for all we know they might have just done what the romans did to them. Steal the idea and slit their throat.
I know this is an old video but the importance of astronomy in ancient times were huge. Eclipses had a lot of superstition bad behind them for the ancient greek (eclipse meant abandonment by the gods), so to predict them you could avoid a birth, or a bad harvest day, or any significant event for that matter. This alone would made it a very important device for a ruler or a high priest. The greek oracles would greatly appreciate such precision on measuring special dates. It would have great religious importance.
@@espacoipiranga Yep, and since astrology was still a big deal back then, this coulda been the mechanical equivalent of an astrological 'ephemeris'. Which even today is used in astrology to predict the positions of the sun, moon and planets, and their 'aspects', aka, angular relationships, to _each other._ Though ironically just as the printed ephemeris has since replaced the mechanical one, now the modern day computer is once again replacing the printed version!
BRILLIANT! Thank you Drs Miano and Freeth. I would seem that this device would most useful for astrology and omens like eclipses. Is there any indication that it predicted the appearance of comets?
One can only imagine what has been lost to time, only a fraction of 1% of things we have today from our history survived. History is absolutely amazing and I wish they taught stuff like this I’m school because I remember hating history in school but every since I’ve been out I can’t get enough of it.
honestly, this is an amazing channel. not only do you take time and explain why many alternative history theories could not be true, but you also make a video, featuring a person extremely knowledgable in one of the few (probably only) bizarre artifacts (being that it features quite amazing engineering and precision, like is mentioned a lot from alternate history theories) from the ancient past and hes able to answer every question in an amazing historical and scientific way. its amazing thank you both for this video i ask though, have gears similar to the ones found in the antikythera mechanism been found elsewhere in the archaeological record"
You mentioned the fact that the device predicts eclipses. Eclipses have no physical effect on Earth, in a practical sense... but they DO have an effect in a religious sense... If I were a leader and I were making a treaty involving a marriage, I would want to make sure it happened on the next auspicious day... NOT on a day there was a eclipse for example... I would suggest it's use was religious not more practical and that is why it has eluded the team to this point... No one on the team probably believes in astrology. The makers certainly did.
Wow!!! I have seen many videos mentioning this mechanism, but this one is so fascinating that you feel as if you are seated amongst the ancient Greek scholars and scientists discussing the advantage of using it and testing its accuracy with your own trigonometric calculations. If it just used as an interesting object in a royal or noble residence it would soon be considered boring but if it is used by a school of scientists and theologians it could be used to sharpen members mathematical acuity. If you take one point shown on the astronomical calendar and you move it to another significant predicted point and are challenged to find the mathematical equation or calculation which would give you the answer this would be a real and interesting challenge and enable newer blood to hone their skills to a higher degree. You take the given answer and work out using conventional calculating methods whether or not you would agree to it. I was also very pleased to see the bronze sculptures shown which were Greek. Prior to seeing these I got the impression that the ancient Greek civilization was more interested in sciences than art per say, and that the Romans were the ones who built the biggest temples, had the best sculptures etc. But those Greek bronze sculptures look truly beautiful. Shew!!! I feel like a time traveler. The hairs on my arms are standing up. Thank you for this fascinating article.
Awesome video! Ive heard of this mechanism and ive seen the pictures before but not much info about what it might be. I didnt realize how much of it was found. I thought it was just that 1 big gear looking thing. . When you asked who might want a device like this i had a thought. Maybe this is a dumb question but could it have an appeal to ancient greek astrology people? Like of course a mathemetician would find it fascinating and engineers and astronomers would dig it. But i could see this marketed as a device to show you your astrology birth charts or like what celestial bodies will align on important days. I dont know if that type of astrology is a more modern way of doing it or if they had similar superstitions with rising signs and sun signs meaning good fortune or bad omens. Maybe some rich nobleman would want one so they can be like "when will Mars pass through orion? that will be the best time to invest in the granite market!" (Im kinda ignorant of how astrology works but i hope my example illustrates my point) was astrology taken seriously during that time period?
you could still show off its astronomical precision to your science friends and itd be a marvelous achievment. But if astrology is a part of the culture regardless of how much creedence you put towards it, it would still be a fun entertainment piece for parties "everybody gather around bring your drinks and come look at my new astrological calculator! I can tell you what was in the sky on the day of your birth. Oh Elenoria it appears you were born as jupiter was descending. Thats must be why youre such bore! hehehe okay, okay, whos next?"
I love your channel and am so grateful for the great academic information that is provided on these themes. Also specifically the mechanism and the underlying research fascinate me. Thanks for your great work!
Absolutely loving your videos. Thank you so much for giving us the truth rather than the "greys" creating things for us. As humans I think we forger how great our ancestors were.
I so appreciate this conversation. It helps me understand so much more about when it probably comes from and gives reasons for it to be so. Im just an amature but now I feel I know something the experts do. Thank you so much!
Once again David, you make the most amazing videos and I love your interviews. It's funny that I have been interested in the Antikythera mechanism for years but this is the first time I have heard an expert discuss their findings. Your channel is a real eye opener for people like me and you are able to pack a lot of relevant information into a short format while making it easy to understand. This is one kick-ass channel.
That was interesting. I've known about his device for a while but usually I'd come across wild claims about it. Glad to get a good informational video about it!
Perhaps the differences you are finding in where it was made is due to it in fact pointing to not just its origins, but it's providence - modified over the years by the different people who possessed it. As to its value, I think it would be a show piece. A thing to be fascinated with while at the same time showcasing a certain superiority similar to modern technology exhibitions.
I've heard that astrologers used to be highly important people and kings had them as advisors. You start to touch on this, but I've I also heard that it was incredibly important that astrologers predict eclipses correctly. So important that if they failed it was punishable by death. I wouldn't doubt if some ancient engineerer created it for some kind of royal astrologer. Might have saved his head. Maybe only someone as important as a royal astrologer was privy to such a highly precious piece of technology that revealed such highly sensitive information. Just a thought. ✨ (Not that that was the only purpose, either, but it could be one reason.) It'd be interesting to find older, less complex devices and see how they evolved in complexity over time.
Fascinating video, Dr. Leaves me wondering if archimedes was the thomas edison of his day. Credited for inventions he had nothing to do with. I wonder how prolific that was back before patents.
This was fascinating. Pardon me if I missed it, but if you haven't already could you discuss the Egyptian Schist Disk? I believe it is currently in the Cairo Museum.
I first heard of it about ten years ago. It’s fascinating. What did Price think it was for? What was it that Freeth disagreed with? I reckon it was used to plan ahead so they could avoid doing certain things at the same time as the planets were in particular positions which may have signified bad luck, or the opposite : make plans for a journey for example on a date when the planets “provide good luck/omens”.
Oh, I've been waiting with anticipation for this one! I'm so excited! Thanks so much for this, Dr. Miano! ❤❤❤❤ I'll leave more of a comment if I find anything fascinating to say, LOL, but I wanted to be certain to give this one a like and comment for the good old Almighty Algorithm!
Appreciate the all caps title, because it ensured that I have never clicked on any video faster than I did on this one. have always had questions about this thing, but I've always feared I would not find reliable info no matter where I looked. This should help. Settling down for dinner with this one 👍
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David you are breaking my addiction to the ancient alien videos because you are logical.
We all have our need for fantasy.
Ancient Aliens is a white supremacist theory, to discredit Africans and South Americans. Notice how they don’t question any European ancient monuments. In reality the Greeks learnt from the Egyptians, and the Romans learnt from the Greeks (and Egyptians).
Why would 3 foot Grays fly for hundreds of years to earth, to show 6 foot men how to stack stones and shovel cement? Surely aliens would have shared something more useful, like steel framed or RC framed structures, curtain walling and open plan buildings?
Definitely aliens.
Ancient Aliens does serve a purpose to get people interested in the past. Created discussions so that we can piece together human history.
That's funny.
The mechanism is incredible. Our predecessors were incredible.
Swamp Gas.
The find is more complicated that Miano is allowed to believe.
Aliens in bronze spaceships?
Archimedes is fascinating to me because he's one of the greatest scientific thinkers in history but had virtually no impact due to historical events that happened after his death. The guy invented a computer and discovered calculus in the 200s BC and then everyone just...forgot, right up until these concepts were independently rediscovered 1800 years later.
You can see the palpitating excitement in Professor Miano's eyes when Tony Freeth speaks about the artifact and its origins.
That's a guy who loves what he does and who definitely chose the right profession.
Oh, I think I feel the same level of excitement, as I've been absolutely fascinated by this find since I first learned of it, decades ago!
I arrived viewing conspiracy theories debunked... Stayed for content they no longer show on Discovery chanel or National geographic! Excellent content
Agreed... The "History" Channel has become anything but, and ever since Rupert Murdoch bought National Geographic it has steadily declined...
@@hurdygurdyguy1 what? You don’t you want another 74 seasons of the Oak Island mystery?!?!?!? Perhaps a couple dozen spin offs about that one bit of wood they found 20 years ago. 10/10 content 👌
The most interesting aspect of the Antikythera Mechanism is that this sort of thing exists in a context, meaning that the required technology and engineering skills by necessity must predate the artifact. As is the case with the stonework of Göbekli Tepe, it requires some revised thinking about what ancient people were capeable of (without necessarily jumping to any conclusions about the purposes of any of these ancient artifacts).
As stated near the end of the video, we already knew they were capable of making a device like this even before it was found.
@@WorldofAntiquity Aye. Certainly. But there's still something satisfying about having that hard evidence.
still having pieces and building something of new quality from it are two different things
This is incredibly fascinating. The ingenuity of ancient people will never cease to amaze me.
Weather Balloon.
We wouldn’t be where we are without them!
They are same people as us. So it's obvious 🧐
I know what you mean thought.
What...???
I'm learning ancient Greek so I can read the inscriptions on the mechanism. Thanks great interview 👍👍
An abacus is actually a digital computer. The beads represent digits. I can't believe I am actually correcting WoA. A slide rule is a better example of an analog computer. Length along the components is an analog for the logarithm of the number. Adding the lengths together by sliding on scale against the other yields the logarithm of the product.
Yes, my bad. I should have said a non-electric computer.
The add-ons at the end of the presentation concerning the documented proof from original sources of the existence of similar devices plus the direct connections to Archimedes was great icing on an already delicious cake. Thanks.
I'd imagine this variety of videos that just cover current historical research aren't great for raking in the views, but personally they are my favorite style. It is always nice to get a little peak into what historians are discussing in a different field.
I found your channel a few days ago via Stefan milo and have been binging it since then. Ancient history is really fascinating. Great work!
FINALLY a video on the antikythera mechanism that we can trust.
You haven't been watching click spring.
All this info has been out for 10 years, I saw a BBC video covering everything discussed back in 14-15’ and it was afew years old when I saw it.
There is a video of Prof. Freeth talking about this at Stanford.
🤔🤨, Opinion
The RUclips channel Clickspring is from a skilled artsian that has made one himself, and has a 10 part series on making it:
ruclips.net/user/Clickspringvideos
The fire control computers, on old battleships, are mechanical analog computers. I've used analog electronic computers, which were used as late as the early 1970s. By the time I used one, it was already well obsolete (1980s), but it was a good tool for circuit theory. We performed a view labs that used them in their original intent, of solving differential equations, by having the computer draw the solutions in graphical form.
I can't recommend this series enough.
It would be interesting to compare the insights from Clickspring's work with the researchers.
Pretty sure there is at least one published paper that Clickspring worked on
G'day not chris here, welcome back to click spring.
@@syindrome from what I can gather. He had to halt the series so he could have his paper/ research peer reviewed. Ima guess he stumbled across something that nobody else understood or could explain.
Those of us who stuck through this whole video have a true passion for History. You're all scholars and are highly academic in my opinion. The one with a will to acquire knowledge is a sophisticated individual with a capacity for wisdom, regardless of their credentials. 👌🏽
I'm enjoying the interview, thanks! I'll also have to track down the film you used for the underwater footage.
The Antikythera mechanism is a valuable reminder that the ancients had the same stuff between their ears as we do. Sure, we have the advantage of accumulated knowledge and material technologies that enable further technologies, but it's clear that our ancient forebears were the same clever species as ourselves.
Yes, I think so, too, and they did *not* need assistance from aliens. Lol 🤣
Hi Skevos, here is the link to that documentary....ruclips.net/video/3T1n7RjCMfQ/видео.html
@@dazuk1969 Thanks!
We are actually DECLINING in intelligence & creativity, & other dysgenic ways, since about 1850 when it peaked (the trend was the opposite for most of the past 1000yrs at least). According Drs Edward Dutton & Michael Woodley of Menie, this accelerating decline will soon have average human IQ back where it was in the 1200s.
Dysgenic decline is not uncommon in the winter of a civilisation, but what we’re experiencing now seems to be unprecedented in severity, scale & speed.
@@maidende8280 yeh sure that’s why we’ve just flown a helicopter on Mars
Excellent presentation David. Papus of Alexandria records a thriving group of artisans known as "sphere makers" who produced astronomical devices. Nastulus of Baghdad produced a treatise, which survives, showing a complex geared mechanism functioning as a calender, not as complex as the Antikythera mechanism. Michael Wright's replica of the Antikythera is really impressive, whether or not the latest investigations question some of Michael's details of construction there is no doubt he did a wonderful job.
I could listen to tales of lost artifacts all day long. Now I’ll have to look up Nastulus of Baghdad. Perhaps David will do more of these?
Excellent interview and presentation. This is definitely one of those finds that you hear a lot about from the non-academic Utubers out there, and it's nice to see this broken down buy the person who knows it best. Please keep making all of your content, it's all excellent.
I think Chris from click spring is equal to or above anyone on the understanding and knowledge regarding the mechanism.
Ok, that was absolutely fascinating. I had no idea such a marvel existed. Thank you so much.
Fantastic talk! I've been fascinated by the Antikythera mechanism ever since I first heard about it. Even once tried to build a lego mechanism that duplicates it's function, but it didn't work so well. More videos about artifacts, please!
Minecraft or lego antikythera mechanism...
Holy shit why hasn't the internet done this
I watched the pre-cursor to this vid, and read every single question. World of Antiquity has answered all them all if you watch the whole thing. I think Dr Freeh's analogy to a Patek Philippe watch is very apt. In 2,200 years, how many Patek Philippe watches would survive ?....I think we can apply the same logic to the Antikythera mechanism. We are lucky to have this one example. Great stuff WOA, peace to ya.
Fantastic interview. Sets an absolutely wonderful standard for historical educational content on RUclips.
Stanford did a video about this device in 2016 that was about as thorough as possible. I highly recommend it to anyone interested in the subject. The video has over 8 million views and it was actually recommended after this video even though I've already watched it twice. I'm watching this for any potential new details in the last 6 years and because I like your style of videos and I'd like to see your take on it.
This is my new fav history channel. The research, the guests, the production quality of the video. Literally what I always wanted on RUclips. Thank you
People forget that three or four hundred years ago, without "advanced" tools or machines, our ancestors made some incredible things. There's a group in France building a castle according to medieval techniques, and they have to re-learn some things that we, as "modern" as we are, have forgotten.
Search click spring someone is building a reproduction mechanism using old style techniques
Indeed, people think in terms of 'lost knowledge ', or 'lost technology ', when 99.9% of the time, what you're actually dealing with, is forgotten skills.
@@brinjoness3386Clickspring is one of my favorite channels. His Antikythera project is utterly fascinating.
Tony Freeth is such a nice guy. I'm glad you asked the question about it being geocentric or heliocentric and the explanation of Freeth afterward was most logical.
As a Computer Scientist, I feel the need to mention the distinction between computation and calculation. Computation implies iteration (loops) and selection (conditions). So, the Antikythera Mechanism is "just" an impressive calculator. The first true analog computer would have been the Babbage Difference Engine (though Babbage only designed it, and it was never built in his lifetime).
That said, I don't mind historians using computation as a synonym for calculation. I doubt anyone who is aware of the difference will be mislead into thinking the Antikythera Mechanism was even more sophisticated than it was. Also, the distinction between computation and calculation is relatively recent (at one time, a computer was a person who performed calculations).
Ah, good to know!
so that fact that it determines solar eclipses by date (including in the future) along with lunar positions (also accounting for slight progression of the moon as it goes around the Earth) means it's a calculator??? i'm not sure i agree with that....
the word computer was originally a job title and words have usage, not meaning but I have similar reactions when non-musicians use musical terms wrong...
By this definition, if Antikythera mechanism is a calculator, then every mechanical wrist watch is a calculator.
@@davidmiller9485no, the fact that it _calculates_ makes it a calculator.
The gears are just mathematical relations. “Three times this gives five time that” etc.
Thank you David. Having a learned man like Freeth explain this incredible object was brilliant.
My god, the way people piece together these objects is mind boggling. So impressive. I could never.
Andrea, yes you could...
Thanks for this video. There's a very interesting book by the physicist Lucio Russo (University of Rome Tor Vergata) titled "The Forgotten Revolution: How Science Was Born in 300 BC and Why It Had to Be Reborn"; according to the author the hellenistic sciences where very advanced, but didn't succeed to survive (and he explains why).
Having watched clickspring painstakingly build most of this device it was great to get the history and "full" story behind it. Great interview.
David Miamo, you are absolutely brilliant and make history interesting and worthwhile. Because of you, I unsubscribed to Uncharted X and several other channels that are speculative and dishonest. Thanks for sharing your wisdom, knowledge, plus understanding and for sharing this with your viewers.
I loved this one. Thanks to Tony Freeth and David Miano for a very informative video.
Thanks for access to such a credible authority. You asked the right questions.
That's the joy of deep history: we truly don't need the woo stuff for it to be mind-blowing and forty years of fascinating. I love this stuff.
Another outstanding video, and wonderful to hear from an expert who has spent so long studying the mechanism. Seem like a good example of how mainstream academia does challenge itself and revise its theories too. Very fascinating to no Ancient (not so advanced) Technology :D
This is just incredible! I haven't finished the video yet, but I can't wait to tell you how much I am loving it!!
Thank you so much Dr. Milano for setting up this interview and Thank you Dr. Freeth for sharing your research with us. It's just amazing. Mind blowing on many levels.
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Congratulations Professor Miano on presenting this fascinating interview with Dr Freeth who has a memory for names that defies belief and is a tribute to the memories of so many people whom he quoted that contributed in various ways to the research of the Antikythera Mechanism. It is amazing how much research has been done; it's like listening to a detective sifting through the facts to find out how a crime was committed. What we do know about ancient Greece and Rome is that less than 1% of all artifacts have come down to us. Sadly, so utterly sadly, hearing how the bronze was recycled of course means that mondern civlization has been robbed of artistic treasures and complicated devices that have been melted away for all time.
You and Milo are killing it. For the longest time I was taken in by the AA theory. So glad I've seen the light.
Just this bare presentation here, involving the context and explication of the _Antikythera Device,_ is awesome.
I am not at all being ironic or disingenuous at all when I wonder if you indeed know how little “signal to noise“ ratio has there been of discussions of this topic and device.
I am not an academic, but have followed the matter of this discovery and investigation of this thing for many decades.
Your presentation of this -- and antique subjects in general -- is a "breath of fresh air". How is it that this is so rare?
Thanks for these amazing videos. They fill the history void left ever since I left college
A truly excellent interview! With great information that is more detailed than what I had previously been aware of (granted I hadn't looked into this in well over a decade)
So good to hear Tony describe his lifes passion in every detail complete& unedited by a film maker.
Best bit of utube content in months.
More of this sort of thing please.
Kudos for posting it.
would you consider doing something like the last 5 minutes of this video but as a stand-alone, short overview of more topics? i think a lot of people would enjoy that
Maybe
One of the most amazing artifacts ever!
I saw the Nova episode about this device & it was truly fascinating how they figured out what it was, what it did & how it worked. Definitely recommend watching it. Nova & Secrets of the Dead have some great ancient history specials among their excellent catalog of science & history docs.
This was fascinating- thanks so much! I'm particularly grateful for the argument that it was not a navigation device; I'm a little behind on the state of the research. I'm wondering if people in possession of such a device might also have been tempted to use the eclipse prediction portion to impress the plebs and cash in... Most wouldn't doubt that you were a magician!
Technology advances while we stay the same. I think your point is a fair bet shall we double the odds if I can eat the moon demonstrably on the date I choose 🙊🙈🙉
The documentary i saw on it speculates it could be a royal gift, i think the cargo it was among had other royal gift consistent items.
@@dermotmccorkell663 this is pretty much proof that technology is lost.
This video on the device provided many more fascinating details than several others i watched. Thank you so much!!!
It occurs to me that the mechanism could function as an accurate clock while at sea. This would allow for the calculation of Longitude and Latitude. It could explain some of the old maps that have been found.
Instead of directly keeping time. The analog computer can give you accurate time based on celestial alignment. Thus allowing for maps having Long and Lat marked on them.
I don't know if the device corrected for distance traveled but it wouldn't need to. It'd be accurate enough to place a few grids on a naval chart. Once you see the pattern you could extrapolate the grid out for the whole chart and by combining charts to others. They'd only be missing a Sexton.
Hello Dr. Miano. I am so enlightened by all of your videos and I really appreciate your point of view and your interactive presence here on RUclips. As well as your way of interacting with as many Alternative theories and cultures as you have in your past videos. I was raised let's just say Christian and very quickly fell into the ancient alien theory as it came out in the early 2000s for my generation on History channel. For nearly two decades I have done extensive historical research throughout pretty much every era. Mainly because I was so interested in the pre history high society theories. I have heard pretty much every single one and I have attempted to educate myself as much as I can on as many as I can. Then also at the same time I have done the same amount of research throughout verified historical facts. I truly appreciate your interaction within the alternative fields for it has brought me far more into the middle and has fed my intrigue. Also just a cherry in top for you you have helped me ascertain a way of identifying all the cherry picked garbage out in the ether these days. Thank you and more of your peers should follow your engagement tactic.
So I should also add that this video on this particular subject is the most informative I've seen on this mechanism. You are so so much for people that appreciate facts over speculation.
Thank you. I am happy to hear the videos have been valuable to you!
Wouldn't it make sense that an astrologer would make use of this device? Many, if not most, ancients believed in some sort of astrology and this device would be useful for someone conducting those kinds of calculations. Given the
convoluted nature of astrology, this mechanism's complexity could be easily explained. Thanks David for this fantastic video!
It remains astonishing to me that a device of this sophistication existed without apparently going anywhere in terms of technological development, even given how difficult they were to make. Something like that in the Renaissance would have been a part of a building wave of new ideas and supporting manufacture.
This is ambrosia for my mind, thankyou soooo much! ❤⚙⚙⚙⚙
What an incredible device. Amazing knowledge of mathematics and observation they must have had.
I believe Archimedes like other Greeks of this era studied in Egypt so he might have benefitted from older sources of knowledge. Good video.
Making simplistic statements and resorting to a deference to antiquity fallacy, is an interesting way to try and detract from the brilliance of these ancient Hellene/Greek inventors. By your logic, anyone who travels anywhere can have there achievements appropriated by the destination country, by simply saying, they must have learned something. This logic/zeitgeist is not scientific, as it is unfalsifiable, and relies not on evidence, but simply conjecture and presuppositions of technological inferiority of civilizations based on age.
What evidence is there for Ancient ethnic Egyptians creating Gears, pistons, siphons, etc? What evidence is there for Egyptian science regarding this type of mechanization?
And where is your source that confirms that Archimedes went to Egypt? Let alone learned all that he invented, like displacement theory, proto-calculus theories and advanced mechanical engineering with gears...
This was a bit longer than I expected, but simplistically simple minded sorts of jabs and snide remarks based on a lack of evidence really grinds my gears (pun intended).
@@christopherzantiotis You may want to read more about Archimedes and his times. While I do think it is possible that Archimedes did come up with his inventions on his own. It is also worth noting that he did study in Egypt along with other famous Greek scholars of his time. This very likely assisted him, to what degree it is impossible to say. I am hypothesizing that the Egyptians had some great books, the source of these books themselves may not have even been Egyptian, but from across the world. Some Greek scholars read them and it inspired rapid progress for the Greeks.
Much the same thing that happened during the Renaissance in Europe when they started translating old Greek books.
I saw this in Athens. It was one of the most amazing things I have seen in that museum for sure. Truly wonderful.
Thank You Dr. Miano for another wonderful and inciteful video!! You did a fantastic job of asking just the right questions at the perfect time and you allowed Dr. Freeth enough time to explain the answers. Rare in today's world!! Great Job David!!!
I dearly wish I had been taught about this device when I was in school many years ago - have typically unyielding mainstream historical thought to thank for that unforgivable omission, I suppose, in spite of Cicero’s own testimony. I have no doubt my interest in Greek knowledge would have been multiplied 100-fold knowing they had this kind of technology at their fingertips - technology that had never been replicated in such detail, even up to our modern times, it bears mentioning.
I've seen a documentary about the research and Discovery's his team made on the mechanism..... absolutely fascinating
As a person studying History for 40 years now (and certainly knowing about the Antikythera) > this is beyond Stunning. Your opening up a lifetime of wonder if you choose to open the door on this fantastic piece. This is the Pyramids on Steroids.
Thank you for putting this together. I must say that your presentation style is, by far, the most enjoyable to experience compared with other YT history channels. Not to say those other channel aren't any good. You don't come across as condescending, etc. even though you seem to be sitting with a brain brimming with ancient history. Thanks again.
I've always seen these in school textbooks and trivia books, but this is my first time seeing someone elaborate on it.
Predicting the placement of celestial bodies & the ability to track their current patterns is very helpful to scheduling, navigating & planning in a maritime or desert culture. I imagine it could have been kept in a navigation center, temple or library for people to consult.
An oracle may tell an ambitious general, "Have your armies follow Mars in the morning and you will reach your enemy. But you must complete your campaign before the setting of Venus, lest winter overtake you."
Also cities can plan for festivals & celestial occurrences accordingly. Star charts could be updated for the various seasons, etc.
One thing worth noting. No other same piece has ever been found although numerous shipwrecks of the same era, or older have been traced or recovered. That is a mystery of its own.
No mystery. Why would you expect there to be more? It wasn't mass-produced, it was a novelty luxury item, meant to display one's wealth and learnedness. We have written accounts that commissioning educational clockwork devices was not uncommon among the wealthy elite. Other than that, it was of little if any practical use to anyone.
Thanks for the comprehensive interview.
Such an amazing device and even better story.
as both an astronomy nerd and computer nerd this thing has fascinated me ever since they worked out what it was.
I really appreciated this video. I had read about these things, but this video brought it to life and put it in context.
never tire of this sort of vid. fascinating subject for a quiet sunday night.
Dr. David Miano, thank you so much for the uploads on your channel. I've learned so much about the world of antiquity, ancient history and myths on your channel. I've found them fascinating. I really appreciate your work and the knowledge you share. Thanks a lot and keep these uploads coming! Best of luck with your channel going forward!
Thanks, Bari!
It is kind of odd the way some people think the Antikythera mechanism (or other things) "came out of nowhere" or are frauds or evidence of hilarious "theories" which shall not be named. The Greeks and Greek-influenced world had some amazing thinkers, mathematicians, craftsmen, and engineers. While it seems these abilities and knowledge were frequently relegated to, and used for, mysticism and religious experience, we have know they did these things for ages. (Of course, being smart was not limited to one corner of the Mediterranean.)
So much credit is given to the Greeks for their advancement of science, yet for all we know they might have just done what the romans did to them. Steal the idea and slit their throat.
I know this is an old video but the importance of astronomy in ancient times were huge. Eclipses had a lot of superstition bad behind them for the ancient greek (eclipse meant abandonment by the gods), so to predict them you could avoid a birth, or a bad harvest day, or any significant event for that matter. This alone would made it a very important device for a ruler or a high priest. The greek oracles would greatly appreciate such precision on measuring special dates. It would have great religious importance.
@@espacoipiranga Yep, and since astrology was still a big deal back then, this coulda been the mechanical equivalent of an astrological 'ephemeris'. Which even today is used in astrology to predict the positions of the sun, moon and planets, and their 'aspects', aka, angular relationships, to _each other._ Though ironically just as the printed ephemeris has since replaced the mechanical one, now the modern day computer is once again replacing the printed version!
BRILLIANT!
Thank you Drs Miano and Freeth.
I would seem that this device would most useful for astrology and omens like eclipses.
Is there any indication that it predicted the appearance of comets?
No, I don't think so.
I've managed to see this in person :D I was surprised how small this device is! Amazing stuff.
One can only imagine what has been lost to time, only a fraction of 1% of things we have today from our history survived. History is absolutely amazing and I wish they taught stuff like this I’m school because I remember hating history in school but every since I’ve been out I can’t get enough of it.
History in most schools is just propaganda.
Archaeology/history in a nutshell - institutionalized dumpster diving
Another really interesting interview. I’ve seen the device in Athens but this brings what I’d seen to life. Thanks 👍🏻
honestly, this is an amazing channel. not only do you take time and explain why many alternative history theories could not be true, but you also make a video, featuring a person extremely knowledgable in one of the few (probably only) bizarre artifacts (being that it features quite amazing engineering and precision, like is mentioned a lot from alternate history theories) from the ancient past and hes able to answer every question in an amazing historical and scientific way. its amazing thank you both for this video
i ask though, have gears similar to the ones found in the antikythera mechanism been found elsewhere in the archaeological record"
A few pieces here and there, from what I understand.
You mentioned the fact that the device predicts eclipses. Eclipses have no physical effect on Earth, in a practical sense... but they DO have an effect in a religious sense... If I were a leader and I were making a treaty involving a marriage, I would want to make sure it happened on the next auspicious day... NOT on a day there was a eclipse for example... I would suggest it's use was religious not more practical and that is why it has eluded the team to this point... No one on the team probably believes in astrology. The makers certainly did.
Wow!!! I have seen many videos mentioning this mechanism, but this one is so fascinating that you feel as if you are seated amongst the ancient Greek scholars and scientists discussing the advantage of using it and testing its accuracy with your own trigonometric calculations. If it just used as an interesting object in a royal or noble residence it would soon be considered boring but if it is used by a school of scientists and theologians it could be used to sharpen members mathematical acuity. If you take one point shown on the astronomical calendar and you move it to another significant predicted point and are challenged to find the mathematical equation or calculation which would give you the answer this would be a real and interesting challenge and enable newer blood to hone their skills to a higher degree. You take the given answer and work out using conventional calculating methods whether or not you would agree to it.
I was also very pleased to see the bronze sculptures shown which were Greek. Prior to seeing these I got the impression that the ancient Greek civilization was more interested in sciences than art per say, and that the Romans were the ones who built the biggest temples, had the best sculptures etc. But those Greek bronze sculptures look truly beautiful.
Shew!!! I feel like a time traveler. The hairs on my arms are standing up.
Thank you for this fascinating article.
Awesome video! Ive heard of this mechanism and ive seen the pictures before but not much info about what it might be. I didnt realize how much of it was found. I thought it was just that 1 big gear looking thing.
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When you asked who might want a device like this i had a thought. Maybe this is a dumb question but could it have an appeal to ancient greek astrology people? Like of course a mathemetician would find it fascinating and engineers and astronomers would dig it. But i could see this marketed as a device to show you your astrology birth charts or like what celestial bodies will align on important days. I dont know if that type of astrology is a more modern way of doing it or if they had similar superstitions with rising signs and sun signs meaning good fortune or bad omens. Maybe some rich nobleman would want one so they can be like "when will Mars pass through orion? that will be the best time to invest in the granite market!" (Im kinda ignorant of how astrology works but i hope my example illustrates my point) was astrology taken seriously during that time period?
you could still show off its astronomical precision to your science friends and itd be a marvelous achievment. But if astrology is a part of the culture regardless of how much creedence you put towards it, it would still be a fun entertainment piece for parties "everybody gather around bring your drinks and come look at my new astrological calculator! I can tell you what was in the sky on the day of your birth. Oh Elenoria it appears you were born as jupiter was descending. Thats must be why youre such bore! hehehe okay, okay, whos next?"
I love your channel and am so grateful for the great academic information that is provided on these themes. Also specifically the mechanism and the underlying research fascinate me. Thanks for your great work!
Absolutely loving your videos. Thank you so much for giving us the truth rather than the "greys" creating things for us. As humans I think we forger how great our ancestors were.
I so appreciate this conversation. It helps me understand so much more about when it probably comes from and gives reasons for it to be so. Im just an amature but now I feel I know something the experts do. Thank you so much!
Once again David, you make the most amazing videos and I love your interviews. It's funny that I have been interested in the Antikythera mechanism for years but this is the first time I have heard an expert discuss their findings. Your channel is a real eye opener for people like me and you are able to pack a lot of relevant information into a short format while making it easy to understand. This is one kick-ass channel.
That was interesting. I've known about his device for a while but usually I'd come across wild claims about it. Glad to get a good informational video about it!
So fascinating! I'm going to watch those documentaries you have listed in the description and the lecture.
Fascinating as always Doctor!! Thanks very much and have yourself a wonderful Christmas, please!!!
Perhaps the differences you are finding in where it was made is due to it in fact pointing to not just its origins, but it's providence - modified over the years by the different people who possessed it.
As to its value, I think it would be a show piece. A thing to be fascinated with while at the same time showcasing a certain superiority similar to modern technology exhibitions.
I've heard that astrologers used to be highly important people and kings had them as advisors. You start to touch on this, but I've I also heard that it was incredibly important that astrologers predict eclipses correctly. So important that if they failed it was punishable by death. I wouldn't doubt if some ancient engineerer created it for some kind of royal astrologer. Might have saved his head. Maybe only someone as important as a royal astrologer was privy to such a highly precious piece of technology that revealed such highly sensitive information. Just a thought. ✨
(Not that that was the only purpose, either, but it could be one reason.) It'd be interesting to find older, less complex devices and see how they evolved in complexity over time.
Yup with that device anyone could get a cush royal astrologer gig. Well worth it.
Fascinating video, Dr.
Leaves me wondering if archimedes was the thomas edison of his day. Credited for inventions he had nothing to do with. I wonder how prolific that was back before patents.
It was Aliens! lol
Oh please, please more like this! This was great. I always wanted to know.
This was fascinating. Pardon me if I missed it, but if you haven't already could you discuss the Egyptian Schist Disk? I believe it is currently in the Cairo Museum.
Nice chat, clear and concise. Thanks to you both.
I first heard of it about ten years ago. It’s fascinating. What did Price think it was for? What was it that Freeth disagreed with?
I reckon it was used to plan ahead so they could avoid doing certain things at the same time as the planets were in particular positions which may have signified bad luck, or the opposite : make plans for a journey for example on a date when the planets “provide good luck/omens”.
It's a bit hilarious: the 'sophisticated calculating device' might have served some esoterical, i.e. 'astrological' purposes.
Oh, I've been waiting with anticipation for this one! I'm so excited! Thanks so much for this, Dr. Miano! ❤❤❤❤
I'll leave more of a comment if I find anything fascinating to say, LOL, but I wanted to be certain to give this one a like and comment for the good old Almighty Algorithm!
Another great video, informative and entertaining. The number of glyphs found thru the scanning is incredible
Fascinating! Thank you for making this informative video !
excellent video. thanks a lot.one of my new favorite history channels, also like debunking ancient advanced technology.top notch
Appreciate the all caps title, because it ensured that I have never clicked on any video faster than I did on this one.
have always had questions about this thing, but I've always feared I would not find reliable info no matter where I looked.
This should help. Settling down for dinner with this one 👍
Just wanted to say that I loved seeing your dog in the background, professor.
this is such a badass video! thank you for your work!