@@necronom4792 the Eastern Roman Empire major expansion was under the Justinian Dynasty, "Justinian I" was the last emperor that speaks latin and his most famous commander was Belisarius
AOE4 Byzantines match the Romans of Basil II onward with the emphasis on mercenaries as opposed to AOE2 which seems to be closer to Justinian era because in that game they speak Latin.
@@carlossime6572 It was mostly the retaking of Roman land rather than expansion in the sense of conquering new lands. From their perspective they were just retaking what was theirs.
Think palatine school is a bit overkill when youre only making limitanei, usually makes more sense if you spam varagians or cataphract as there youd save some gold
I'd prefer it if this map had 2 paths down to the water perhaps blocked by treelines, so the water was a late-game only feature (ie. after the treeline had been chopped through).
One thing I may have done with a map like that is have one sand bay between the cliffs so only one person can have control over fishing rights. Dunno, maybe its a bad idea.
Byz civ = affordable units as a spearmen, Aussie Drongo "can we talk about this unit please, it needs to be nerfed". 2 days prior, "Palace guards are so over powered look at them go you can't tough them, but I'm not going to call for them to be changed" lol Only Aussie Drongo can call for a trash unit to be nerfed and units like the palace guard is just A-O-K lol
Its kind of ironic that the Malians, our athletic and slightly hungry friends from Africa have the sofa warrior, when the sofa warrior sounds more like someone who does not stand up much and plays this game with a degenerate controller!
The one big issue I am seeing with this game as being a new player. The match making needs a lot of work. Level 15 going up against veteran and people of multitudes of skill more than new players is going to make it hard to get used to and want to keep playing the game. There isn't a lot of helping videos that really go over the basic strategy of starting out. Another thing is unit management on console is basically garbage compared to PC and I like playing against cross platform but don't like the advantages they have over consoles. Only other issue I have with the game is the maps and learning then seems to never be the same every time you get the map so it's hard for me to know how to play the round because I don't know the to play the terrain to my advantage. Only thing I would recommend for your channel is to possibly think of having multiple spots to show all the players in the game all the time. I find it hard to keep track of what someone's doing swapping back and forth. But I know that's what has to happen to keep track of the battles. But maybe giving each player a section of the screen so we can constantly watch them would be something id like to see on the channel.
In very late gqme it will be Delhi wjose the strongest ofmall. Had it not formthe very late upgrades Delhinis the king of all Vs Byzantines only late game Otroman even with new nerfed will beat them others that.may be either France or.Chinese ormZhi Xi
Yes. English win this match up late game. They just print MAA into your Limitanei. So if do run out of gold your actually in a really bad spot because you need xbows and vguard, who cost twice as much gold. Hre with relics are in a similar boat.
@@traviscumbest3946 depending on contract and imp landmark youd have to consider that byz still get handcannons and siege to deal with MAA or that the varagians get quite a bit cheaper via the palatine school
I love these comments on every video. People either say "whoever you mention on the thumbnail always wins" or "whoever you mention on the thumbnail never wins." I don't think both can be true though...
@@mattlarsen5536 I mean tbh though in this case the thumbnail and the title together gave it away. It doesn't bother me personally but the complaint seems valid.
@@samc9133 fair enough. I just thought it was funny because in another drongo video someone made the same complaint about thumbnails but for the opposite reason: "whoever you show in the thumbnail always loses!"
Are they really too good ? What I found impressive is pretty much the ability of the Malians to have the same eco as the Byz with 40 less villagers. THIS is busted.
CAT played this so tentative, he had a big military advantage in early & mid Castle and just kinda sat around
Which allowed magic to boom and we end up with this very skewed late game, making it seem like byz are busted, meanwhile cat threw it
And we don't stop coming and we don't stop coming and we don't stop coming and we don't stop coming and we don't stop coming and we don't stop coming
Magic was about to get the AK-47s out with all that oil.
He was about to get a US Forward Operating Base with that amount of oil lol
This map looks really good, looking forward to more games on it
I googled the front fell off Australian reference and I'm dying
That Clarke & Dawe reference made my day and it's only 6 AM.
The Flavius Belisarius era on the Easter Roman Empire AKA Byzantines has begun in aoe4!
more like Macedonian, Komnenian, Palaiologoi era
@@necronom4792 the Eastern Roman Empire major expansion was under the Justinian Dynasty, "Justinian I" was the last emperor that speaks latin and his most famous commander was Belisarius
Haha! Great to see I wasn't the only one thinking Magic was channeling his inner Belisarius :)
AOE4 Byzantines match the Romans of Basil II onward with the emphasis on mercenaries as opposed to AOE2 which seems to be closer to Justinian era because in that game they speak Latin.
@@carlossime6572 It was mostly the retaking of Roman land rather than expansion in the sense of conquering new lands. From their perspective they were just retaking what was theirs.
I was waiting for a title like this on a byz game, zerg vibes starting in castle age
9:44 to my knowledge cistern only make military buildings produce units faster not the tc
These videos have become part of my morning routine. Thank you!
Think palatine school is a bit overkill when youre only making limitanei, usually makes more sense if you spam varagians or cataphract as there youd save some gold
Felt a little Dora the Explorer vibes. "we are about to do it, so let's get to it"
I'd prefer it if this map had 2 paths down to the water perhaps blocked by treelines, so the water was a late-game only feature (ie. after the treeline had been chopped through).
i like having not every map a square
I would like to see a version with an out of the way peninsula that held one of the sacred sites call it, Temple to Poseidon.
One thing I may have done with a map like that is have one sand bay between the cliffs so only one person can have control over fishing rights. Dunno, maybe its a bad idea.
Byz civ = affordable units as a spearmen, Aussie Drongo "can we talk about this unit please, it needs to be nerfed". 2 days prior, "Palace guards are so over powered look at them go you can't tough them, but I'm not going to call for them to be changed" lol Only Aussie Drongo can call for a trash unit to be nerfed and units like the palace guard is just A-O-K lol
You win, Drongo. You finally broke me. I'm a Patreon member.
Missed opportunity to set the title to: "The units keep coming, and they don't stop coming"
One of the best games ever and we're so happy that a PhD has been awarded for the Byzantines.
The day magic plays a game under 30 minutes I'll eat my toe
You should call the early scout switch a Do-si-do
Its kind of ironic that the Malians, our athletic and slightly hungry friends from Africa have the sofa warrior, when the sofa warrior sounds more like someone who does not stand up much and plays this game with a degenerate controller!
Gotta have Poland-Lithuania added
The power of the Greeks! 🤩
Mongols would struggle on this map. No Oovoo for them.
All the more reason to get it in the ranked pool lol
Finally a new casting video
Best casted games period.
Cow counter? Don't you mean the Cownter?
"byz is weak early because they have a strong lategame"
"byz lategame too strong"
We really need the Vikings. We have the english
Also the lememtini should not be getting nerfed smfh
Question: does food upgrade impact on cow ranches?
Surprised no selling the olive oil for gold upgrade. I guess easy to say, hard to find the time APM to do in the heat.
Can you do large mini map on split screen?
more of this map! (any otto nerf ill take XD )
Hey since today Camel rider from Byzantin mercynari do not give +2 amor aura😢 yesterday did it😢
You need the foreign engineering company for the camelriders to get the support aura, so no +2 until imp
byzzzerg rush, gg
why can't i change the quality?😢
The one big issue I am seeing with this game as being a new player. The match making needs a lot of work. Level 15 going up against veteran and people of multitudes of skill more than new players is going to make it hard to get used to and want to keep playing the game. There isn't a lot of helping videos that really go over the basic strategy of starting out. Another thing is unit management on console is basically garbage compared to PC and I like playing against cross platform but don't like the advantages they have over consoles. Only other issue I have with the game is the maps and learning then seems to never be the same every time you get the map so it's hard for me to know how to play the round because I don't know the to play the terrain to my advantage. Only thing I would recommend for your channel is to possibly think of having multiple spots to show all the players in the game all the time. I find it hard to keep track of what someone's doing swapping back and forth. But I know that's what has to happen to keep track of the battles. But maybe giving each player a section of the screen so we can constantly watch them would be something id like to see on the channel.
i wish the caster mode switch to red vs blue actually worked. being color blind this is the worst color combination
I'd like to See that map in ladder!
Let's go!!!!!
How is the cow counter of any importance
I don’t really like the split screen it kinda throws me off, but maybe ill get used to it later
What’s the point of that water
Well that's beyond the environment and there is nothing out there!
The plural of corpse is corpses DRONGO or no wait actually i think corpse might be the plural too
Corpses
BYZANTINE OPP!
In very late gqme it will be Delhi wjose the strongest ofmall. Had it not formthe very late upgrades Delhinis the king of all
Vs Byzantines only late game Otroman even with new nerfed will beat them others that.may be either France or.Chinese ormZhi Xi
Love it
MAA would crush these Limatanei or? But Malians got weak ones
Yes. English win this match up late game. They just print MAA into your Limitanei. So if do run out of gold your actually in a really bad spot because you need xbows and vguard, who cost twice as much gold. Hre with relics are in a similar boat.
@@traviscumbest3946 depending on contract and imp landmark youd have to consider that byz still get handcannons and siege to deal with MAA or that the varagians get quite a bit cheaper via the palatine school
French trade has become a thing again. Its so broken
Has it? Is it because of the double merchant guild bug? 'cause that is getting fixed in the next patch
Is this split screen your doing? If so make the squares the same colour as to who they’re following. Simpletons like me don’t know
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This map is a waste of water
it hurts me how you say Limitanei
Maybe stop telling us who will win in thumbnails
I love these comments on every video. People either say "whoever you mention on the thumbnail always wins" or "whoever you mention on the thumbnail never wins." I don't think both can be true though...
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@@mattlarsen5536 I mean tbh though in this case the thumbnail and the title together gave it away. It doesn't bother me personally but the complaint seems valid.
@@samc9133 fair enough. I just thought it was funny because in another drongo video someone made the same complaint about thumbnails but for the opposite reason: "whoever you show in the thumbnail always loses!"
I agree spoiler alert
nahh the byzantines are too good, i think cat played better, altho he didnt get enough villager kills early on
Are they really too good ? What I found impressive is pretty much the ability of the Malians to have the same eco as the Byz with 40 less villagers. THIS is busted.
Like if you agree with 10+ cost of wood for unLIMITANAES??? XD its just so absurd unit wtf?