No Crank No Start troubleshooting HACK TEST. This where you should do all your TESTING. PT Cruiser
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Here at Brothers motors again, im troubleshooting a no crank PT Cruiser using only a test light and a jumper wire, follow me.
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Great video, I followed along step by step. Came to the same conclusion. All checked out same as the video. Relay good, jumped starter, ignition good. Problem at the ground terminal. One years of tech training in eight minutes. Coming from a schooled technician you are great with your skill.
Thanks Jared. Please remember to thumbs up the video and make sure to subscribe to the channel.
Also keep in mind of what can prevent that ground signal. Things like the car has to be in park/neutral, and the security featured not activated. Those will prevent the computer from delivering that ground as well so make sure that's not what's preventing it.
@@OnlineMechanicTips Yes sir. I am also suspecting the factory security system is causing the concern because the owner cannot locate the fob to activate or deactivate the alarm there for not allowing the computer to wake up. Thanks for all the videos. Keep up the good work.
Thanks you helped me fix my car and saved me a lot of money that I don't really have
BRO you re the only one who showed the relay hack with no fricken tool you're the man!
Yea mun, thanks for watching
@@OnlineMechanicTips Hello...Online mechanic...really...really...REALLY need your help!
That's great cause I can't find relay in diagram on grand prix.
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Thank you brotha....the clearest explanation I could find. Black key 👌🏾👌🏾 one process down
for some reason i tough the hand were talking to me..Excellent video thank you!
you saving people big money. Thank you.
Sir, you have a great way of making it easy to understand, thank you.
Wow, thank you. We changed the PCM from a Gray key to a gray key thinking it would have a better chance to match. That was two years ago. First it started like an old Chevy in the winter. But it started. Gradually the dragging on the starter increased. Then it would crank, then click, and then nothing. Been through the fuses a lot, checked the battery, starter, alternator (yep) changed cables. This is after replacing the head, mounts, struts and radiator.
There are black keys for PATS... The best way is to check your owners manual for what type of key you have and google or check online service manual. Everyone should be aware that even though the situation alone with the relay might apply pretty much across the diagnosis board, your security key may not be grey. Grey may apply to put cruisers. So everyone just be aware of that one! I like this video, it is very informative though!
Thanks for watching bud, please thumbs up the video and subscribe to the channel for me, thanks
Oh ... I subscribe 👍 I would like for us to inbox bro and share some knowledge...
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yeah this is pretty much PT ch- the guy seems knows the PT inside and out. I'm thankful he has a ch hooking up layman like myself. I bet he has saved me tens of hundreds of dollars.
Great teaching keep up Your good work Thanks
Mine was doing that. I figured it out without towing it was wires in steering column. The wires are frayed and tilt wheel has to be in middle position. I still like to fix it right.
Your the greatest
Can you take the pcm and skim from a car scrapped for parts as i was advised I couldn't just change the pcm
but if I took both skim and pcm and the key and barrel I wouldn't need to get them programed
How do you tell if it's the pcm or skim is my other question
own a s1 2002 dream cruiser with no crank
Hello my friend, thanks for watching. As far as a way to tell if its the pcm or skim, you will need a good scan tool to look at the data. Now in order to avoid needing programming you will need all 3, but make sure pcm part number matches your pcm ruclips.net/video/r1ADNszZuVM/видео.html. Please subscribe to the channel for me, thanks
I think I finally understand. I have a 2010 charger doing the same thing. I am going to push it in the garage and give it the old "RUclips" try!!!
Awesome video thanks for posting. Did the new PCM fix the problem?
Yes sir. In fact, here's the link. And BTW, please subscribe to the channel for me, thanks. ruclips.net/video/88iB6UyB_l4/видео.html
2002 chrysler pt cruiser went through automatic car wash as i entered the spray to clean underneath got motor wet ! That's what it suppose to do ! Car died not starting I have all my electrical working not starting no clicking no crank no sound ! I have a 5 speed
That glove was talking 😂😂
I have a g35 manual and I’m having one click when trying to start my car. I test the 30 for any voltage but there’s none. I could start the car by jumping the wires. What you think is wrong with my car?
I did put a new starter in also
We hit a pothole yesterday. Now it wont crank. When we turn the key everything comes on like it's suppose to just dont crank. I have a 2004 PT Cruiser Limited Edition Turbo Engine. Yes we have the stick, yep our car lights everything came on, dinging noise.. My husband said he has noticed during these colder temps its been dragging if that makes sense to start.
If I can crank car by jumping relay with a fuse link? Relay is good no bad fuse no idea any advice
Question. Put a used transmission in a 2014 dodge Durango. This has the eight speed with the computer in the transmission. This the rear wheel drive transmission. What are the programming procedures to make it work.
Dang bud, just seeing this..Did you get it going?
@@OnlineMechanicTips we got it
How?
I have an 02 PT cruiser ive replaced the starter, but i still have no response from my ignition.
Thanks for your video
ok so I have 11 volts at pin 30 but when I jump it the voltage goes low (using a meter) as in micro voltage. all the are testing good so what would be the next step for me? I can jump pin 87 from battery and the car turns over. I can turn the key and the 85 and 86 make the connection and I get 12 volts so its just the supply voltage to 30 that seems to be the issue. Thank you so much for this video and any help.
Hey but year is your PT because the gen 2 PTs use a TIPM? Also are you subscribed to the channel?
Awesome videos. I have a 2012 Charger RT with a p0688 code (ASD / Main Sense Circuit). Can I test the ASD relay socket the same way you did in this video?
Hello my friend, thanks for watching. You cant quite test this circuit like that. Whats going on is theres no voltage seen at the PCM when the ASD relay energized. Thats usually from at open circuit. This code will not turn the CEL on, are you not starting? O and please subscribe to the channel for me, thanks
The car won’t crank. I also get a p0622 (Generator Field Control Circuit / Open) every now an then.
Was doing 70 on the freeway all the sudden oil light came on solid car started to lose speed and it was like the gas pedal wouldn't work so I posted to the shoulder of the road turned off the car realize the radiator was cracked and then oil change and I can't get the car to start it will crank but it won't start.... What do u suggest.... perge valve? Fuel fuse?...... I'm at a loss
It's an 03 base model pt cruiser btw
I have a crank no start situation with a 2014 dodge grand caravan. It starts when it wants to. Check engine light comes on drivability Light also. I'm Not getting any codes from my scanner and the keys fob Not working.
Please answer 🙏..I have a 2002 Olds Bravada with no crank,no start..It all started when I tried installing a Bluetooth adapter. So I could have a smart car😮..It wouldn't start .Next day tried again and it started! A month later I installed the Bluetooth adapter. 2 weeks after that No crank No start..does that tell you anything? Any ideas off the top of your head 🤔
Excellent Video. Quick question. I have a 2002 Pt Cruiser. I jumped Pin 30 and 87 with a wire. Starter Just Clicked, still no crank. Pin 86 has 12V when Ignition Switch is turned. Pin 85 does nothing. Does that mean I got a bad PCM and a Bad Starter? Again, starter just clicks when I wire-jump it. Security light doesn't flash, either. Thanks a bunch for sharing the knowledge. 👍🏼
no bud, when you jump 12 volts to the starter the way you did and your starter solenoid just clicked, that means your starter has internal problems. Dont bother pin 85, it's the ground signal from the pcm..replace your starter..dont forget to sub the channel and give the video a thumbs up, thanks
@@OnlineMechanicTips Awesome. You da man. Subscribed already. 👍🏼
hey one quick note. you should be hearing that same click from the starter with everything in place normally. That assures the circuit is complete. so have somebody turn key with relay and all in place, if you hear starter click, replace starter, if not you got more diagnosing to do..food luck bud
@@OnlineMechanicTips Yes sir. When the Relay is in place I hear the same click everytime the key is turned. So, I suppose that confirms the Starter has some kind of internal failure.
Got a 2012 mustang no crank on it but when we put a screw driver on the starter where the two wires are connected it starts right up what could it be ?
Got same symtoms got juice to relay only way car turn over by key is ground out bottom left pin on relay but still won't start new ignition switch was installed no luck
Help please! Something is draining my 2006 PT cruiser battery over night. Mechanic said Battery and Alternator are good!
Hi thanks for this video very help I got a question what happen if I put a jumper ground from a chassis and cut the wire from the botton that came from the PCM? This will fry the PCM? Thanks Hope see the second part how to reprogram by the way another question with the Launch Scanner x431Pro is any way to reprogram the PCM I know you can reflash o rename the vin number I do in some Jeep Grand Cherokee when replace some modules like ABS but not sure which type of reprogram require for the diagnostic that you made on this video thanks hope hear you soon.
Hello my friend, No, that would be a bad idea to do that. Could make for a long day of back feeding problems. As far as those scan tools you mention, im not sure. I have zero experience with other scan tools except the ones used here at the dealership. O and please like the video and subscribe to the channel, thanks
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@@OnlineMechanicTips Hi amigo I do all your test and I start the PT Cruiser via jumper on pin 30 to pin 87 I have a good ground on pin 85 that comes from the PCM or whatever they come but on pin 86 when i move the switch to run start on this pin 86 only have less that 6 dc volt I test the relay and is perfect my question is I have to have 12 dc volt on pin 86 ? the relay need to get 12 dc volt on pin 86 and good ground on pin 85 for the relay worked I think I have a bad ignition switch I remove and I need a guide to test thanks for your help and support!!! Peace
Why would I have to keep replacing the 26 ENG ASD Relay Feed 2 fuse? I recently had the cam crank POS sensor, fuel module and fuel pump, valve cover gaskets, and ignition relay replaced. Does this have anything to do with it?
Can you use a dmm to check ground on the relay?
2000 750 IL,does my bottom battery need to be charged as well?no crank?,Starter ?
Awesome video thank you!
I get 12 volts when key is turned and I’m able to use a jumper to get the starter to turn over. I was able to get approx 11.8 volts when I put my multimeter on the positive battery terminal to the pin coming from the PCM. But I still have no crank no start. Is it a security system thing at this point? Any suggestions?
Then that simply mean your relay bad, im sure you swapped relays first but so you know, thats not a good way to verify the PCM is grounding the circuit. Is this a stick or an automatic trans..Those inputs are seen with a scan tool..Also have you subscribed to the channel?
I just finished placing the PCM and disco. Car starts again. 🎉🎉🎉🎉
@@maverick19702000 Ayyyyeeeee, You did it. Please like the videos and I hope you are subscribed.. thanks
@@OnlineMechanicTips my dad's car just shut down no crank no start got same symtoms changed key switch all fuses good , checked current like you did only way it will turn over by key is ground out bottom left pin on relay
@@davidhill5621 ok what does that tell you?
@Online Mechanic Tips Using your method, I am able to verify constant 12v at pin 30 and switched 12v at pin 86 from the ignition switch. However when I place a jumper between pin 30 and pin 87, it is still not trying to crank. Does that mean a bad starter solenoid?
I'm curious, what kind of car is this? Also are you subscribed to the channel?
@@OnlineMechanicTips I have been subscribed for years under my other RUclips account. It's a 2005 PT Cruiser GT Convertible.
@@OnlineMechanicTips so, I have some really weird stuff going on....I WAS able to get the jumper trick to work ONCE.....then shortly after that, I was able to start the car with the key.....I turned it off and went to button everything up under the hood. Sat back in the driver seat to start it....one click sound and then back to square one.
@@scottloco9180 o wow..you have some poor connection somewhere
@@OnlineMechanicTips could it be a bad starter solenoid?
What if it don't crank when u jumper pin 30 and 87 on starter relay I have a 2005 Chrysler 300 c 5.7 that is a no crank I have 12 volts to starter I have 12 volts on pin 30 but no crank I tested starter battery and replaced ignition switch the only thing I can think of is exciter wire is broke or bad connection that leads to pin 87
Hey bud, typical pin 87 likely headed straight to starter. You TIPM pins could be spread or loose at the bottom. Did it have any ignition codes? Also are you subscribed to the channel?
Nice, thank u sir
hi, you didnt say anything abt the terrible corrosion on the bat terminals. first things first. tnx.
I'm having the same issue besides I was able to start it a few times but as soon as I put it into gear it killed it what do you think that could be it's like the the moving of the stick would have make it immediately die from neutral to first gear it would just be like an automatic kill switch and now it does no crank at all any suggestions????
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During ye test such as in this video, what was revealed? Also what year is your PT? Also are you subscribed to the channel?
Good morning, what happens if 30 does not have power? I have a 2001 vw passat v6 4.motion. Thank you for any info youcan provide.
Hi Luis. Did you fix your problem? I think I have the same issue. No power at 30.
I have a 2010 Chrysler PT cruiser I bought a steering column it came with keys and a black ring that goes around the key deal with the box it has One wire harness plugged into it can I use that one or do I have to swap it out an put my Key cylinder and black box on there and if I use that key that came with the steering column what happens with the car
2 questions, Are you subscribe to the channel ? Is the key that came with the module just a key or do it have the remoter built with the key?
Online Mechanic Tips I am now it’s a black kid it has locked door unlocked door in a panic button
hey bud, key module will hVe to be programmed to your pcm for that to work right..was you car stolen and the steering column broken? it will have to be program
Hey Bro your one finger start tip didn't work for me. but thankyou for the content.
I have the same problem with a dodge durango 4.7 not crank at all I replaced the starter but nothing the truck still the same any advice bro? I can't do the test you did in the starter relay I was trying to help a friend and now I have a problem 😅
Why cant you do the test with the starter relay? Also are you subscribed to the channel?
Yes sir I im a subscriber,I saw a video of a guy saying that 2007 dodge durango have a different key I don't know for real,the cuestion is if I can do the relay test how?
@@edardon16 It does have a security key. But a no crank condition can be ran at the starter relay. If the key is the problen this test will reveal that. You will need a real good scan tool to see if your security key preventing you from cranking bud.
U were so informative thanks amillion
Did you bypass the transponder
That depend on where you at in the circuit if that matters or not. Curious, are you at the starter relay or the starter? Also are you subscribed to the channel?
I have a PT cruiser and I can turn it over to face down star by the time you can tell him to stop but it turned over to five minute could you please tell me what that mean mean
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What if tge relay clicks until batt is dead?
my car cut off while i was driving. i turned it off and it wont crank or start does nothing all lights are on and i noticed there is a red solid light on that wasnt before. radio everything works makes no noise idk wth it could be
If that jumper wire in the relay don't work, where you go next to find out?
Hello my friend, im not understanding your question..But if you jumper pi 30 to 87, the starter should spin over. If it does not spin over, you need to check the starter ground and connections at the starter. Please thumbs up the video and subscribe to the channel for me, thanks
@@OnlineMechanicTips Thanks for answering. Liked and subbed.
@@OnlineMechanicTips mime spins but doesn't turn over what could my issue be you thing I have a 2000 pontiac grand am
You need 3 things for start. I guess battery is not one of them?
Ignition signal
Battery
Starter
That aside your video was very helpful. Thank you sir.
Question :08 Saturn aura with a new alternator and new starter . The belt currently needs to be changed . The car starts about five times then it won’t click or anything . Also no light pops up on my dash . What’s missing ?
That’s the internal security locking out the starter. You need to get the coded key to match your car’s transponder/receiver and that should take care of that
if ignition ist working and the switch (black box ) is new how to you know if the key went bad or if its the skim box?
What problem are you having? Is this a No crank or a no start?
Thanks Rufus.
Hey what's your Facebook link? I have another issue that's nothing to do with the Nag and wanted to show you a small clip of a small issue with a new Rack and Pinion i just installed a few months ago.
hey bud, search Minivan Mechanic or PT Cruiser Mechanic on FB..Keep in mind, I only log in on those maybe once a day tho..But its cool
Thats cool, Im gonna try to post a 15 second clip, The pinch bolt on the intermediate shaft connecting to the rack and pinion doesn't seem like it tightens to the spline, The pinch bolt is as tight as i can get it and i can pull the shaft back and forth about a half an inch, Almost like the the spline on the rack is too small.
Got a problem my car won't start 2008 impala lt v6 engine got a new alternator new starter New battery and It still won't start with a boost off what can be the problem
2006 Pt Cruiser automatic hard crank, any suggestions on where to start 1st?
Have you had it scanned yet? Was there any codes? Also are you subscribed to the channel?
@@OnlineMechanicTips have had scanned with our FIXD, no codes. Yep, you have a lot of helpful videos :) I replaced the fuel pump, plugs, wires, coil, camshaft sensor and target magnet
@@angeladebeltz1903 OK im going to assume when you say hard crank, you really mean long crank. No this is important. When you turn the key to the crank position, is the engine just spinning over a long period of time but not starting? Is that the case?
@@OnlineMechanicTips 1st start of the day, yes turns over bout 5 times then starts.then later in the day it’s 1-3 turn overs. Shorter restart time; less turnover/cranks. Hope o explained it ok.
Yes a long crank, from cold 5-15 seconds of cranking, warm it starts quick
My starter relay used to click. It doesn't now
Thanks
You probably won’t see this but the speedometer it stuck behind the 0 on my 2006 pt cruiser
Key to computer to starter relay (click) to starter solenoid
Need address to order tcm for pt cruisers.
This is exactly how my 2008 Equinox is behaving. I swapped out the starter relay and still nothing.
I have an 07 Chrysler Aspen no start no crank it just clicks beside the fuse box
Hey bud, have you had it scanned? Also are you subscribed to the channel?
Very informative..Thanks
I got a 1994 it doesn't have a starter relay
He sound like Rufus from supernatural
I got a 370z with no crank everything works except the crank I’m outta ideas
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Why thank you my friend..I appreciate it
@@OnlineMechanicTips Just had that situation 2 days after buying an 03 GT. Pulled the starter, tested, was fine. Bad Knock sensor replaced it. Replaced the ignition switch and cleaned up some other connections. Thinking it was the ignition switch.
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To much blaa blasaa y blaaaaa and not acción 😒
Awhhhh, poor you, rather take your frustration out on the video huh? Smdh. Would you like me to come over and hold ya hand and fix it for you?