DEA agent seeks federal immunity after allegedly killing Salem cyclist
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- Опубликовано: 6 май 2024
- A DEA agent accused of killing a cyclist in Salem while on duty had his case presented before a federal appeals court today in Seattle.
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This agent needs to be held accountable for the death of this women, PERIOD.
agree
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They will investigate themselves
Getting sick and tired of all these federal oinkerisms.
Cops in the USA are criminals who get away with everything they want
DEA agent killed a innocent person without having a real emergency he should be charged with the criminal charged.
apparently he thinks he should be able to get away with what he did rather than be a man and face the consequences for his clear lack of judgement and common sense.
No he shouldn't, she was probably involved in criminal activity
@@ColonelMetusso if they kill you its automatically your fault?
god youre a simple minded one huh?
Unless & until law enforcement is held to the same standard as we are, these negligent ki//ings will just keep on
Unfortunately, the rich & powerful who created the laws & the police policies that allow this are going to keep it that way. All we are to them is a mob that must be controlled, oppressed, & exploited. That is the reality. Everything else is hollow lip service. Legislators & police will never openly admit they want to keep it this way
@@Winston-lf7sbyou realize it was a joke, right?
We need to end qualified immunity. Landis need to go to jail for this.
Yes, for real
Police safety #1. If we don't keep thin blue line, bad guys win. Keep that in mind people
This is wrong for this case. Ending qualified immunity lets the criminals win
The cops are the criminals. Wake up.@@hcwcars1
@@hcwcars1 No, it lets tyranny continue.
To even seek immunity is unethical.
Ethics and police are mutually exclusive now. Nearly all who had a shred of decency got out after St Floyd of fentanyl. Those who hung on were either defunded or refused the shot. What's left are the ones media portrayed all cops as.
Police won't do their job if they can't have fun" - bootlicking Americans who were frothing at the mouth demanding the blood of people protesting the unjustified murder of George Floyd.
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Is disgusting, the lack of empathy, and dissecting the law to minimize, the murder of this lady🤮
Exactly
I don't understand how "qualified immunity" applies to incompetence.
Because cops are soverign citizens.
Maybe because many of their employees are imcompet?
It should but time and again SCOTUS and the circuit courts have ruled it does whenever the facts of a case does _not_ match the preciseness of the facts of previous cases where the courts found the cop clearly broke his qualified immunity! 😠😡🤬👿
They might go over that at trial, but right now, we're at the procedural posture of simply figuring out which court to go to, and people have lost their GD minds over a normal court process. It makes me wonder if we should just make a law saying. If you don't have at least more than a bachelor's degree, then you can't see any court proceedings other than the main one. People forget not being educated comes with a cost.
Qualified Immunity is literally a cop-out constructed by SCOTUS. It needs to be either explicitly eliminated entirely or VERY narrowly defined to eliminate baseless complaints against public officials.
He killed her with his car... He should be on trial like the rest of us
Not really depends on where she was
That’s just what I posted
@@milesdyson5211 he was reckless driving. He and you would go to jail. Federal agents should not be immune
Don’t you know that feds are above the law?
The title of this video is insane. It's not in dispute whether or not her life ended, unless the person who wrote this title is implying she's actually alive somewhere else and the person whose life ended is some kind of nonhuman clone.
Allegedly killed?
Ask her family if she's "allegedly" dead.
That’s what sucks about all of this. The news has very broad rights under the First Amendment, but saying the cop killed the victim could open them up to a defamation/libel lawsuit since it wasn’t officially declared by a court.
Let this serve as an example at how “The Ministry of Truth” manifests itself in American society, even when we have the First Amendment to fight against such suppressions of truth.
No urgency.......no immunity! He killed an innocnt woman! Surveillance of a drug dealer and speeding through a neighborhood and running the stop sign is negligence! Keep it in the state court! He needs to be held accountable for negligent homicide!
Our DEA AND CIA THEY KILL CITIZENS AND WANT IMMUNITY NO NO NO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE
Police won't do their job if they can't have fun" - bootlicking Americans who were frothing at the mouth demanding the blood of people protesting the unjustified murder of George Floyd.
Police are keeping us safe. Why not keep police safe too??
The police are keeping us enslaved@@bwinms1
@bwinms1 Officer obviously didn't save that poor woman. No sympathy for him.
Her life means NOTHING to them!
Her life is actually a burden to them because now they have to deal with it.
NONE of our lives me anything to ANY of them. We are tax slaves to be traded as cattle.
None of our lives mean anything to these government alphabet agencies.
The system does not gaf about no one
You think that the federal government cares about the individual American? They do not… if you believe they do you are delusional.
He killed a woman there must be no immunity. Running a stop sign is not part of his job. He must be charged for his crime.
btw, USA is pressuring Mexico to take those agent into our country.... keep them! they're yours! they're only trouble
The protected class (e.g. Jeffrey Epstein, Anthony Fauci) always think they are above the law.
and they won't even post his picture!
They had no problem posting the victim's picture, but he gets a pass because he's part of the special "government class" club.
@@randalthor6872 That's because he's a federal officer. A DEA, CIA, ATF agent's picture will not be shown. I loathe these 3 letter agencies.
Reckless/careless driving, no matter what his job is !
There is no immunity for stupidity.
Stop giving these officers qualified immunity!
Surveillance IS NOT an emergency.
Nor is the war on drugs. We lost the war, the cartels are in control.
Its about murder not drugs.
The agents business and what he was doing, has ZERO to do with his negligence.
Catching up to other vehicles in a surveillance team does NOT constitute an emergency. Even when ANY LEO is going code they are still REQUIRED to practice due diligence.
The DEA agent needs to be prosecuted under State law but should be found guilty regardless. NO IMMUNITY for receckless driving, period.
@@johnrebman5718 👏🏆
@@jeffk464 Democrat's open border not helping.
Lots of people in prison because of a "mistake in judgement".He should be just as accountable as anybody else
Preach
Everybody else doesn't have a job that requires them to use deadly force as part of the job description.
@@user-hk6tk4ge5the wasn’t using deadly force in the line of duty, he was running a stop sign to get to his other officers who where already following and surveilling the suspect. Had he been following a fleeing criminal and if he lost site of him the suspect could potentially escape then I could see the need for immunity but that is not the case.
@chrisbenefield9963 The operation of a motor vehicle is the use of a deadly weapon in the line of duty.
@@chrisbenefield9963 If he had lost sight of a fleeing criminal, then his responsibility is to cease pursuit.
He needs to be charged, found guilty, sentenced to jail, have his qualified immunity stripped, and he needs to be held accountable!!!!! Absolutely disgusting public servant behaviour!!
Police won't do their job if they can't have fun" - bootlicking Americans who were frothing at the mouth demanding the blood of people protesting the unjustified murder of George Floyd.
Yup he killed her point blank. No lights, no siren no emergency. He needs to be held accountable.
THATS MURDER...THIS Qualified IMMUNITY CRAP HAS TO END
Did you not listen? This isn't about qualified immunity.
It is a jurisdiction question.
No he wants to claim federal Immunity which makes him even more despicable @@darkstorminc
trump said all cops will have immunity from everything nooo matter what they dooo. that destroys the constitution. makes trump a dictator. the law is what the police say it is. a crime is whatever the police say it is. your home means nothing. biden puppet is nooo better. while ya'll was busy gettinn off over there. on the transgenders, your country has been taken from you over here. congratts dumbbells you got what you deserve. lol
Gross negligence doesn't qualify for immunity.
Being a Fed isn't a get out of jail free card. This agent was clearly negligent & should be held to account.
Qualified Immunity is LITERALLY a get out of jail free card for police.
If the appellate judge allows it to go Federal court, then that is exactly what all Feds under that appellate region will get ...a get out of jail free card.
@@jondoe406unfortunately you’re exactly right.
Being on duty shouldn't mean the agent can commit negligent homicide. This is a state crime.
@@jondoe406 Qualified Immunity is actually at its core a pretty sensible doctrine that you can't sue an official like a clerk for doing legitimate work that happens to negatively affect you, but it has been warped and twisted by our utterly corrupt court system into a special protection for any public official against any kind of damages in any situation regardless of the facts and responsibility.
They don't need that much protection though
Absolutely NO qualified immunity in this case.
this is not a qualified immunity case
Police safety #1
A car traveling at 50 mph vs 60 mph over a ten minute period will arrive 1minute sooner. Is that one minute worth an innocent persons life? the answer is NO.
Remember: it’s not red vs. blue, it’s the State vs. You!
I wish this comment was pinned to the top.
A little off topic but: To learn who rules over you, find out who you can't criticize. Many gov't servants are trained in Israel.
Except for when Trump tries the same strategy. I don't see as much of that on the Left.
@@scottyb7979silence fed
Keep telling people this!!!!
Only a sociopath would not take accountability for killing someone.
Three of my family members died of covid in early 2020, while Trump was calling it a "hoax". Republicans are sociopaths.
I'm pretty sure nobody wants to go to prison, unless you are a sociopath.
@@user-hk6tk4ge5ttouché
Both Hollywood and Washington D.C. are cesspools of high functioning sociopaths.
Katlin Jenner? Michael Byrd?
A crime is a crime no matter who commits it. Dea agent thought he's immune from committing a crime.
The ATF has taken more lives than it saved
Come on, jonny. This is about the DEA, not the ATF.
@@bobmahnamahknobLol!!! Correct, but what's the difference really???
These alphabet agencies are far more about control than safety anyway!!!
In this case, one is about making sure the right people get paid, and the other is about making sure the wrong people can't fight back if they don't like it!!!🤣🤣🤣
They all survive by dividing us against each other!!!😉😉😉
"If we hold the police accountable, they won't do their 'job'" - bootlicking cons
@@bobmahnamahknob I donts reeds gudz
Especially the Hostage Rescue Team where nobody survives.
Hes a coward. He belongs behind bars...
And a murderer
Have some respect he is a federal law enforcement officer he doesn't answer to local or state authority!!!
@@user-qz8km2qr8ghe doesn’t deserve any respect boot licker
@@user-qz8km2qr8g Bot LOGGED. Your name is now on the dark web!
@@user-qz8km2qr8gstill waving that blue line flag.😄
So if you are a federal agent, you are allowed to be criminally negligent? That is messed up.
The feds did let an fbi agent get away with murdering a mother holding a child, so that tracks
Not just federal. Any cop at any level is protected from their own negligence.
@@hipp0stratusyep. They get away with grape and burder all the time.
We have a multi-tiered Justice system in this country.
It's the trump doctrine.
This law enforcement “officer” is completely and utterly incompetent!
Police won't do their job if they can't have fun" - bootlicking Americans who were frothing at the mouth demanding the blood of people protesting the unjustified murder of George Floyd.
Unfortunately this guy has to go to jail. He was absolutely reckless in his conduct.
The DEA agent needs to go to prison.
never in a million years. federal agents are above the law
under
He’s a Biden stooge. He’s going nowhere
I'd rather American Patriots (if any still exists) wake tf up and get organised..
Decades of abuse, on a variety of civics, & yet their pockets are untouched..
no his bosses need to go to prison.
No government agencies should have qualified immunity. Everyone should be held accountable for their actions without impunity. End qualified immunity now.
In one of the articles of the constitution says that no one is above the law not even the president. Everyone will be held to the law equally and fairly. This is what makes everyone equal according to our constitution, equil and fair treatment under the law for everyone!
I agree. They also should not be legally allowed to lie to people under the authority of their badge. These officers and agents are granted a great amount of power there for they need to be held to a far greater standard.
Never forget that Ms Amy Potter, a federal _prosecutor,_ is defending this DEA agent. This case is not just about one DEA agent trying to get away with murder. The entire system, including Potter and Judge McShane, is trying as hard as it can to make sure that average citizens can be slaughtered by law enforcement with absolutely no consequences. Amy Potter only cares about citizens being killed if it means she gets to step on the neck of a peasant. She is the worst of humanity and would feel very much at home in totalitarian North Korea.
This isn't even about qualified immunity. Qualified immunity only deals with civil lawsuits. This scumbag federal agent is trying to say he's immune to criminal prosecution, which definitely isn't a thing.
Qualified immunity does not mean they can break the law, it means you can't be sued by a criminal while doing their job.
As a nurse, I would like to stop paying for malpractice insurance and plead immunity if I make a mistake.
It should be life in prison or the death sentence for them “accidentally” killing people.
This is crazy….
Nobody should get immunity for ignoring public safety like that.
They only care about officer safety. They aren't here to protect anyone other than themselves, per the Supreme Court.
Absolutely, if you or I blew a stop sign and killed someone we'd be in jail... his line of work has nothing to do with it.
Even fire trucks slow down for intersections. Can't get to a fire if you wreck the truck.
Post pandemic America
No emergency lights? No emergency siren? Just a regular truck... Nah, this guy deserves some jail time.
Remember the cop that killed a broken down motorist in Florida. He got life (I think) in prison. No cop car, no uniform, did not identify himself as a cop, and obvious no siren or lights.
In the course of the surveillance, the DEA agent failed to the necessary precautions to ensure the of the general public.
The lengths they go to in order to avoid responsibility is astounding....
No way dude killed somebody and is trying to say he’s got imunity like it’s a game show. Throw that dude in jail for life.
Criminal negligence
Life isn’t anywhere near a possibility here.
And #45
if he was on the job he has immunity... thats just how it works, this aint no game show where you pick guilty/innocent based on your feelers.
Moreover, aint nobody getting jail for life for an accident like that. Matter of fact, chances are, someone like you or I might walk out with no jail time at all.
@@artyomarty391you running a stop sign and killing someone is gonna land you in prison. Even as a DEA agent his lawyers are fighting for his freedom
And you wonder why we don't trust government.
Basically if they win the case, then every action by law enforcement can be explained away as “I was performing official duties”
Exactly!!!
@@fireboltaz Like shooting a unarmed female protester on J6 right?
And when a former president, and candidate, Trump is doing the exact same stunts, tenfold.
@@3lullabies bro. Who’s talking about Trump?
I thought surveillance was supposed to be very quiet and low key. Blazing around a neighborhood doesn't fit that.
Your employer should be irrelevant when it comes to civil and criminal accountability.
What if a defendant/tortfeasor has zero money and other assets and no insurance? You want an employer with deep pockets standing in his shoes in a civil trial.
There is NO accountability in government anymore. Absolutely disgusting.
Never has been.
Anymore? Depending on what state... Looks like he got a free ride. He should be fired and charged for murder.
No accountability would mean not meeting in court which clearly they are.
Sure looks that way!
What you're not aware of is that the so-called government went private in 1933 and declared war on the American people. It has always been a corporation chartered in 1791 to manage foreign trade and protect individuals' property. What's more is the fact that the District of Columbia usurped the constitution that bound them when the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES was counterfeited in its place. The Bill of Rights attached to the original was also usurped in place of amendments that look and sound the same but have different definitions and interpretations of language. When one claims an amendment, one claims a privilege , not a right. For some reason, i can't seem to get this "verifiable " information into the thick indoctrinated minds of the masses.
His being a federal agent should have nothing to do with it!
That's pretty funny considering his being a federal agent has everything to do with it! He's not a mailman or a garbageman driving a route, he's a federal agent on duty doing surveillance and it's the entire reason he's on that street doing what he's doing.
@@crepitus3552surveillance isn’t an emergency.
You are nothing but a pathetic boot licker
@@crepitus3552 so you think it's ok then what he did kill someone a daughter a wife a mother
@@chriscorry3852I never said anything of the sort. I said his being an agent on duty doing his job is not irrelevant.
So these federal agents think they can kill anybody and get away with it. Truly despicable. All LEO's need to be held accountable.
I always hear judges and police chiefs alike say, "No one is above the law". Well, then abolish qualified immunity. There really should be no such thing.
he knows he screwed up thats why he wants immunity.speeding, running a stop sign and killing that poor woman. a citizen dosent get a "do over" or a "oops!! my bad"pass. be a man and face up.
agree
Oh please there’s never been a cop or govt agent who been a man and accepted responsibility. They simply do not do that because they get away with everything in their corrupt, fraud system
This is complete negligence on his part. Must be held accountable.
sounds like he wants to live in a TRUMP world. idiots get immunity to laws they cannot understand.
America is a police state, different rules for overseers. Police in America are above the law. America makes special rules for plantation owners. Money determines your freedoms not the individual. America is a shithole of a country.
So flip it around. What would happen if a civilian, say a frightened mom, was speeding her child to the ER, ran a stop sign, and collided with a bicycle officer, tragically killing them? Y'all reckon the law would say "well, she had an emergency so we won't hold her legally accountable"? Any wagers on how that one would play out?
This is a fantastic point. The woman in your scenario would be screwed. I also think rushing your child to the hospital is far more urgent and popular amongst citizens than the war on drugs.
They may not get jail time though.
You assumed an emergency. The only emergency in this case was after the DEA officer struck the bicyclist and not before. He created the emergency by ignoring traffic laws.
Mom would never see the light of day.
Under no circumstances is it reasonable for a person to drive a vehicle on public roadways while not being fully in control of the vehicle. Neither the cop nor the mom are doing their emergency any favors by getting into a collision along the way.
This is disgusting ! He murdered that lady....He should be running to a jail cell !
So he ran a stop sign which he committed an infraction and it resulted in the death of an innocent citizen? What is the difference who he was employed by? This is disgusting
Qualified Immunity needs to END, period.
Underrated comment
Amen!
This is not qualified immunity. It's federal supercede immunity. If it was qualified immunity then we wouldn't be talking about jurisdiction.
@@jimmylivingston6338Exactly, these clowns are clueless….QI is weak…FACT….however federal immunity is absolute, Federal agents are absolutely immune….its insane!
I think qualified immunity needs to go and they can be held accountable for everything they did illegally just like the ones they tried to arrest and give tickets too.
The agents actions were NOT reasonable. He KILLED this woman. Full stop. As a first responder, our driving MUST be done with due regard. He belongs in prison. Period.
Agree and good to hear from you
no one claims his actions were reasonable. The argument is just which court the case should be in.
"Full stop"
...no pun intended?
Our…🤣🤣🤣
@@rajpat89That is the full argument.. was he on emergency duty or a horrible person
HOW IS IT THAT HE DID NOT SEE A FULL GROWN WOMAN RIDING A BIKE.?????
He was too busy ignoring the STOP sign.
Probably had a hard time seeing her going 50 mph over the limit whilst blowing through stop signs in the midst of his "surveillance" tactics.
He got to be held accountable for his actions, no one is above reproach.
This qualified immunity must go. Absolutely disgusting loophole for murder.
Murder is intentional
No, it should exist, but guardrails should be clear and given no leeway.
Had he been in Pursuit of a fleeing felon(within eyesight) he would have in fact been on task.
What he did was complete reckless disregard for public safety during a Routine surveillance assignment.
@@danielmartin7838 False. What law school did you go to? Get a refund.
@@crxess how does chasing a suspected criminal excuse killing innocent civilians?, that is absurd, there was no emergency. you would feel differently if that was your mother or sister.
@@crxess qualified immunity is an abomination. The only people who believe it is good are government workers and 👢 👅 's
He ran the stop sign WITHOUT LOOKING at the intersection to see if it was safe. He also didn't have his lights or siren going so the woman had NO, REPEAT, NO chance to avoid getting run over. This is Negligent Homicide, PERIOD, Immunity does NOT APPLY!
I guess the “lights and siren” are state requirements. But no one is going to use “lights and sirens” on a surveillance. He was simply negligent!
Depends on his training, maybe this is normal
Im not sure about that
Shhh, you weren’t supposed to notice that.
Exactly. He would not be immune if he accidentally shot his commanding officer, so why is her life more expendable?
Disgusting how they consistently put police failures above innocent life.
Lets just give EVERYONE immunity!! Isnt that the "Purge!?"
So they can commit a crime to allegedly stop a crime!?
Only in America!!
The only difference between criminals and three letter agency drones, is a badge.
What happens in other countries if it's "Only in America"
A so called crime at that!
that's how it is in any country that isn't run by criminals.
@@StarHunter28 you're a big fan of movies aren't you.
End qualified immunity ASAP!
There are cases that immunity is needed. But this one definitely needs to be tried. He did not need to be running stop signs. This was not an emergency and he wasn’t using lights and sirens
Second amendment is how it’s done. It’s the people’s duty to hold them accountable because a corrupt system isn’t going to do it.
Good luck calling the police then
@@HillbillyHippie-mm6btcould I hear an example of when it’s needed?
@@Brandon-vg8zr why when your more likely to be unalived by them you npc clown
It shows how much empathy the government has for Americans I send my deepest sympathy to the family
He needs to be held accountable for her death, no reason for running the stop sign.
Qualified Immunity needs to go away
And the unions and the officers need to pay not the taxpayers.
@@Dmanderic1979 It should come right out of the police pension fund so they understand that they can't just violate people's rights and get away with it
Agreed
@@OnlyGetty why should good cops pay the price for bad cops?
@@andy_182 People always respond with this but can you think of a better way to ensure police hold themselves accountable even as they abuse the system?
in situations like this, immunity from any prosecution should not exist
What is the dea agents description
In *any* situation qualified immunity should not exist. It's an excuse for "we screwed up and harmed someone and now we don't want to be held liable for our actions".
@@SalSanchez-dy6cn Cops won't do their job if they're held accountable for their crimes
In any situation cops and federal
Agents should not have immunity.
Federal amunity, what a joke, if that was any other person you would be in prison, wow just more injustice if he gets away with this.
immunity for killing an innocent woman with his vehicle? wow...
This is the problem with these federal agencies. They are never held accountable for their actions.
Federal, State, Local...none are really held accountable with any consistency.
@TheCableStrain local governments are much more accountable. The mayor could be at a cook out, Lowe's, the grocery store, etc. but no one is bumping into Joe Biden at any of those places. Unless Joe got away from his handlers and wandered off of course.
That`s because power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
We get the government we deserve. Stop voting for reps who don’t take police reform serious.
@@emilioaymat5651tends to corrupt* is the saying
Did he not have a radio to contact his team? Running a stop sign is not part of the job description. He needs to be held accountable.
Actually he gets paid by taxpayers so he can commit crimes without accountability
u must be an expert on federal job descriptions. sorry u recently got a traffic ticket. Maybe u should have ur license revoked. Seems a bit much now doesn't it.
I’d like to know a bit more information about the incident. If it was critical to speed and run stop signs, why wasn’t he utilizing a siren or lights? Was this “fentanyl dealer” an immediate threat to the public? Did the agency know the “dealer’s” home of record? Had the rest of the team lost the “dealer’s” whereabouts? If the “dealer” was that much of a threat to the community, why was the dealer out free? Negligent homicide for sure. If I am operating a forklift and I drop a load on a customer or customer’s vehicle, I am responsible for those consequences even though I am acting in my work capacity.
I wonder how man surveillance vehicles were following the suspect and how close were they?
@@thomassaldana823 For all we know, it is all a lie. Plausible deniability. Who was this dealer, and was he apprehended and prosecuted?
I don't care if it was a REAL emergency you still killed someone by your actions.
Immunity in this context is absolutely ridiculous because this isn’t just an accidental killing while properly executing duties. This was negligence while ignoring the law as if it doesn’t apply to him.
@@mb9662You must have been raped in jail.
@@mb9662 yes they do. They aren’t “sovereign citizens”, he is federal employee.
You’ve said it best ⭐️ “ . . . negligence while ignoring the law as if it doesn’t apply to him”
@@barbaraeslick558you clearly dont know the definition of that term
@maddog He understands it perfectly; it seems you don't. Sovereign citizens are against government and their laws. The agent works for and is looking for protection from the government and its laws to benefit himself.
You don't need immunity if you are innocent.
Well, any jury would find the DEA agent guilty of either homicide in the second degree or vehicular homicide.
Jury trials are unpredictable. Why risk it if you could have immunity instead
But he isn't innocent.
Not true. Lot of situations where qualified immunity makes sense but it’s oftentimes being abused and used to protect bad policing
@@jamesjackson9606 In the majority of cases where qualified immunity is relied upon to avoid imprisonment or civil damages the government employees are guilty of violations of law which the rest of us would be held accountable for.
Either the laws apply equally to all, or the government loses the legal and moral authority to continue its existence.
HOW TO GET AWAY WITH MURDER AND WHY THE POLICE FORCE IS FULL OF PSYCHOPATHS.
if a police officer runs the stop sign with no lights and siren he is charged. this guy had no lights and siren and it wasn't even an emergency he was going to.
He gave no warning. Sirens and lights are exactly for that purpose.
Exactly!
Not true. Sometimes officers also roll without lights and sirens. If they are actively conducting official business, they can also have a claim to qualified immunity.
Not saying it's right, or even should be allowed, but your statement is categorically false.
@simsreject5925 whether operating emergency lights and sirens or not they are still obligated to make sure an intersection is clear before proceeding through it.
My sister in law was almost killed by a cop that ran a red light while off duty. It took almost seven years to settle the case because of this immunity crap. And no one paid for the new vehicle that was totaled and only a partial payment of medical bills. Government offices only pay the public for their actions when forced to by courts.
Qualified immunity needs to be abolish from all state actors
Blue lives don't matter
Some qualified immunity is a must. Every society has those. The only question is when does it end/start. I'd imagine we would fail as a society, if we cancel QI just because a law enforcement officer ran a stop sign
without immunity, every cop would quit, or at least just stop enforcing the law, because he would be putting his life at risk just by carrying out duties. Cops would get sued 24/7 and they would be attending court hearings from every arrested individual, rather than doing their job
This is not qualified immunity. This is about whether federal criminal law supersedes state law. Qualified immunity is only about civil liability.
@@artyomarty391 what society? Does common people have immunity? Did Trump get it
Absurd. No lights, no siren, no yield; thats reckless homicide.
Once again the discriminatory behavior of the Department of Justice is on display!
This DEA needs to be in 20 years in prison for breaking the law
The DEA is NOT breaking the Law - the Law was written to serve and protect the System, not the Citizen - that's why Courts and Lawyers are so prevalent in Society.
@the_lost_navigator F'd up...but a correct assessment
@@the_lost_navigator No, they break laws all the time. They just don't get prosecuted for them. There's a difference.
The existence of the DEA is a violation of the Constitution, as is the DOJ. Neither can be found in the Articles of the Constitution that formed the government, and by their very nature, they violate the Bill of Rights just by breathing air each day.
Why are you even commenting, you are not even intelligent enough to put a sentence together properly.
The fact that he wants to fight this shows you how much the government, federal agencies, and law enforcement in general value you as an American citizen.
Truth 👏🏽
I have more than enough other examples that proved that to me a long time ago.
I dont value them at all they are phycopaths
Defending that agent should be a crime in itself. Him asking for immunity is the epitome of cowardice and if it is granted means the law doesn’t mean anything
The DEA agent was granted qualified immunity from state prosecution 6 days ago.
The dead woman's family should be able to sue the DEA agent and the DEA for wrongful death.
And if they win, the taxpayers, not he, will have to pay the suit. How is that fair to anyone involved..?
@@michaelangelo8001tax payers also pay their salary and pension. It's a vicious cycle.
@@michaelangelo8001It should come out of their budget and they shouldn't get a budget increase to cover it. Money is the only thing they care about. Not human lives, only money. So if we hurt them in the money, maybe they'll stop killing us.
@@michaelangelo8001
Wrong! You need more education as to how tax money is processed. Typical Bootlicker response btw
They can. They can sue him in civil court. Just like the Goldman's did to OJ.
someone who puts people in prison for victimless crimes wants immunity for killing someone? what a hippocrite
Drugs like fentanyl are not victimless in any way. It’s impacting a lot of people and especially when mixed into other cocktail drugs. Remember George Floyd? He swallowed a speed ball which had I recall 3 times the safe limit. He did it to himself. But it was not victimless. It got cops who were following job guidelines put in prison because he was black. That impacted 3 cops lives right there. Not an over fan of cops these days, but this case was text book.
Most under valued comment I've seen here.
EXACTLY!!! Killing under the color of law. They always think THEY should be excused! Total hypocrites!!
The hypocrisy!!
The irony is that the war on drugs is the reason we have Fentanyl everywhere because they found it easier to smuggle due to it's potency. Imagine if we spent the trillions of dollar on treatment for those that want it. Every penny has been a waste fighting the war on drugs. Big Pharma started this opioid epidemic.
He should be held accountable
these corrupt cops needs to be held accountable ..
Even as an Agent he has the responsibility of operating safely while doing his job. He FAILED.
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Accidents sometimes happen that aren’t anyone’s fault. You don’t know the specific circumstances of the accident.
Yes we do he ran a stop sign and killed someone during a non emergency @TBrl8
Thats common with feds
@@TBrl8 If you ran a stop sign that is intentional and not an accident.
This is why the legal fallacy of qualified immunity never should have been allowed and should be completely destroyed.
Yes, “Qualified Immunity” is nothing more than another Court Invention just like when the Supreme Court approved Obama’s illegal use of the, Executive Order of DACA.
Thank the corrupt Supreme Court.
"allegedly" no, he did kill him. That is a fact that even the DEA agent doesn't argue with.
The attorney is arguing that there should be NO consequences for ANY action as long as the officers/agents “perceive” they are doing the right thing at the time? INSANITY!
The two tier justice will end violently one day.
Not by you.
YOU NEED TO STOP RESISTING SIR!! STOP RESISTING!!!!!!
@tjewett1967 Over your ___ body or something, right?
@tjewett1967 oh you sound big too there keyboard 🤣
Yes when Jesus returns to reign. 🙏✝️
The family of that poor woman needs to also sue the DEA agent himself so that he can show full responsibility by paying through HIS wallet, too!
Cops wont do their "job" if they're held accountable.
I agree but even if so it'll be through our tax paying wallets instead..
where in the Constitution Article I Section 8 is Congress given the power to create the DEA or any policing power at all, or regulate drugs for that matter?
De facto absolute immunity. It’s next to impossible to do so.
Absolutely...there is always a civil component of something like this that can be pursued.
Running a stop sign is breaking a law, as simple as that may sound. You shouldn't get immunity from breaking a law.
he needs to go to jail, this is disgusting. So any federal agent is immune from murdering someone? He just wants a federal prison.
he killed somone and should be held accountable. period
"If we hold the police accountable, they won't do their 'job'" - bootlicking cons
"If we hold the police accountable, they won't do their 'job'" - bootlicking cons
Police won't do their job if they can't have fun" - bootlicking Americans who were frothing at the mouth demanding the blood of people protesting the unjustified murder of George Floyd.
It’s always the same thing. A wife of an American federal against killed a young boy on his bike in Britain. She fled the country back to the U.S. and wasn’t held accountable due to her husbands federal immunity
Yes, he should be held accountable. The question is what is accountable? Prison? ... How long? We know it is an accident but was he reckless. I don't think he should be locked up for years and years but he does deserve time.
End immunity be responsible for your actions!..
agree
Immunity must end.
@@violent_bebop9687 absolutely - it blows my mind that "immunity" is even a thing !! I have seen videos of truck drivers who had their brakes fail and caused a fatal crash get sent to jail. Here you got a "cop" who did NOT have an equipment failure, yet literally plowed a cyclist over to her death, is trying to use "immunity" to get out of his responsibility. If the cop can have "immunity", then why can't the truck driver who had equipment failure ?? It makes no sense. I guess we're all supposed to just believe the "cop" is a "special" person and they can't get sent to jail no matter what they do.
Ending qualified immunity would get the right people in the job.Our government can't afford the right people in the job with its current state of affairs... This sounds like a wonderful idea.
Trump wants to make immunity permanent
The ability to even ask for a federal immunity!!! The audacity and ego!! 🤬
Police want to hold you accountable for your actions but want immunity from their own actions.
DEA agent just randomly drives over an innocent citizen, while driving high speed and recklessly though a residential neighborhood?
Why are they not being charged for murder at the state level, where the crime was committed?
No jury would ever find him guilty of murder, murder is a legal term which denotes intent. Everyone agrees he didn't purposely run this poor lady down...... They charged him with the correct crime....
But yes, he should stand trial in the state
my point exactly! he thinks hes mark meadow lol
You are are a little off on your definition. The charge of " murder" or homicide doesn't require intent to kill. You're thinking of first degree murder charges. Which requires you to show the killing was premeditated. Most states will have felony murder or negligent homicide laws. @@KF...
@@777biggs
I live in Cali.....
"Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being, or a fetus, with malice aforethought...." (intent)
So I guess it might depend on the state you are being charged in, and there legal definition of murder....
The bottom line here is obviously the prosecutor had no cause to believe that the killing was intentional.....
@@KF... Not intentional, but recklessness and negligence are applicable to murder charges. He ran a stop sign, we know running stop signs and speeding are against the law. His actions caused a death. Ignoring traffic law makes murder charges pretty easy to apply.
Protecting a murderer just because he wears a badge. No one should be immune from murder no matter what their job title.
How about no immunity from prosecution regardless of employment?
Manslaughterer I think.
Y'all say sing a different tune about immunity with badges when the victim is black.
@@4minute60Please continue to assume that about everyone and every situation you encounter. Everyone on earth is prejudiced except you.
You mean like the one who shot a woman on Jan. 6 for climbing through a window? Now that was straight up murder, but he was protected by the government. Or the FBI sniper at Ruby Ridge that shot the man's wife while she stood in her kitchen door holding her baby. Yeah, the MSM likes to forget about things like that, don't they?
The UK provides a compelling example of how law enforcement can effectively function without a doctrine like qualified immunity. In the UK, police and other public officials are fully accountable under both civil and criminal law for their actions. This includes the possibility of private prosecutions, where individuals can initiate criminal proceedings, a mechanism not available in the U.S. This system promotes accountability and public trust, demonstrating that law enforcement officials can indeed perform their duties effectively without the need for broad legal protections such as qualified immunity. The absence of such immunity does not impede their ability to do their jobs but rather ensures that their powers are exercised responsibly.
Seeks immunity? Now that there in itself is absolutely grounds for not giving him any immunity whatsoever
the fact that our society even tolerates the fact that claiming qualified immunity is possible in situations like this is absolutely absurd
It's not society. It's the ones who are supposed to enforce, uphold, and have the power to do so that fail everyone. Aka the law enforcement and the "justice system"
You can thank the "back the blue" crowd (that is, people and politicians who are pro-cop) for the situation we're in.
@@JonathanLedbetterhe is a federal law enforcement officer little boy he does not answer to local or state authority have some respect!!!
@@user-qz8km2qr8g Law enforcement deserves zero respect, and neither do you, Walter.
@JonathanLedbetter this isn't qualified immunity it's federal immunity. It's an entirely different thing.
End qualified immunity!!!
I didn’t know we had immunity??
You mean, federal agents are just giving immunity ??
But we don’t give it to the President of the United States