Monsters of High Gain - Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier II
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- Опубликовано: 4 ноя 2010
- See all of the Monsters of High Gain videos at www.premierguitar.com/Magazine...
In this video, PG's Joe Coffey introduces you to the Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier II, while Ty Dietzler (Thousand Foot Krutch) and Misha Mansoor (Periphery) take it through its paces. 
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I can't believe people consider these riffs "dad rock" now, but I gotta admit: I hear that mesa rec chug and it's "gimme the beat boys and free my soul"
I love that Misha gives us guitarists with persistent concentration face some respect.
Haha cause he’d trying really hard not to be sloppy
Whats with all the downvotes? None of this sounds bad at all..
It is because of all of the people who wish that they could get this sound and can't xD
Alex Wright
And its nearly 4 years old lol... mishas way past this stuff now, he gets better and better man! the band as a whole are awesome and its from mishas hardwork and creativity and persaveerance thats managed to create such a great sound, coz thats what its about this vid isnt it, the sound of the amp, not his ability to play!
Alex Wright Get the amp and a cab and you got it.
Hi there, thanks for the presentation. Would you please review Engl Invader?
And despite the filthy amounts of gain, extremely high clarity in each note.
Wow that sounds great man, so is this one of the best metal amps out there cause im defenetly considering this for the future?
Get it.
Meh
this has to be the best demo in the series.
"We all copy Meshuggah" - Devin Townsend
2:38? were is that riff from?
The Tube Screamer takes this amp from being middle of the pack to one of the better amps IMO.
i have 6L6's in my dual rectifier roadster. However, i dont get that extreme solo tone that i want; sorta like a zakk wylde kinda ballsy high energy tone ya know? I use a delay pedal as well as some different types of different gain in order to find that balance, but i still cant get that remarkable solo tone that i want. Does anyone know if i should switch tubes maybe to like some El34s? Will that make the world of a difference for me? Or maybe i should Grab a pedal or 2?
I've gotta say, the clean channel on this head is the best in this whole series, in my opinion. I know it's kind of pointless to talk about cleans, but when I'm buying a high gain amp, I don't just crank the gain and chug, but I look for the best clean sound as well, to give it versatility.
Oh, it's always fun seeing a bunch of babies in the comments section bad mouth a demo with, you know, an actual mic on the cab, professional musicians, and editing. But whatever works for you guys with your improvised webcam demos. I bet they sound much better.
with recabinet vst can blow this shit sound up...... It is not the gear but the micing....
+John Yang You meant Miking, right?
Ok. I understand what you're saying man. I totally agree with you. At the same time, could you perhaps explain why Rob Chapman's Video sounds far better. Here's the link.ruclips.net/video/RfmCikhqHMY/видео.html. Later.
Just goes to show you that tone is subjective because I don't understand a single person on here hating these tones. This comment section is joke.
Well I don’t prefer the tone, i wish they made it sound like it had more low end but with a good amount of mids. Something like the black album guitar tone
Hi. Thanks a lot for demos. Plese tell me the guitars body woods.
Thanks.
Some of the best nasty tones on RUclips. So many people show this amp off and never get these dark tones.
Iam scared of the "rectum tracking" at 1:24! HAHA
5:38 The Predator and Fat Boy sound best on CLEAN!
@Jmnabinger91 Thanks a lot! Headroom means there's less breakup, etc. In layman's terms... more clarity and tightness?
Now that ive listened to all of these this Mesa Boogie and the Orange amp are the best
Their testing tone not their skill...
I love how every video is Joe Coffey talking about the amp for two minutes, then Ty Gaywad plays for 45 seconds then the rest is Misha hahaha
engl powerball and dual recto sound best i think. I have now enough money to buy either a new powerball, fireball, or dual rectifier. wich one should i get??
im looking for a parkway drive/killswitch engage tone
What is the diffrence between the Single rec and the dual besides the watts? and the switches on the back
how do these guys make a dual rect sound like shit , I dont get it unless the micing is really bad
that actually sounds pretty close to what you hear on most modern metal albums. You feel like guitars on those albums sound better because they are double-tracked, treated with a good amount of EQ and compression, and most importantly they are buried in the mix with kick/snare and bass
You should post yourself doing it better keyboard warrior.
Sounds worse than that fluff guys tones sounds like glug glug glug glug glug glug
I can't believe the second player is actually a Pro :-O
You should look for his videos... he's a great guitar player.
Elad Meyuhas Fair enough, but his tone in this video is butts.
Can't believe you did not hear about Misha "Bulb" and Periphery band before ;)
he is a great musician. he does not only do the djent stuff you know. and his gear and DAW knowledge is huge as well.
cr0c0stimpy i think his tone is great. its modern metalcore / prog metal tone
Sounds fantastic with the TS on!
Listen to 5:11 doesn't it kinda sound like Rainbow Gravity? Look at the date when this video was uploaded!
Best metal amps, but that price ffs...
They are pretty expensive, I have discovered something else though that I love and is much cheaper and imo better sounding,,,,,that is just my taste though, the Laney Ironheart, try one for your self and see what I mean, fantastic amps
Demonbane41276 You get quite a lot for the money, mind! I actually bought mine seccond hand - it is a solo 50, but I got it for about £500 in brand new condition.
+Barry B yep I use one. can't beat it
+Demonbane41276 Get a Peavey 6505, around about $900 bucks cheaper
Honestly, for a 100 Watt tube amp... Dual Rectifiers are fairly cheap used. I've seen them as low as $800. I bought mine for $1000 two years ago and it's in mint condition (2004 model).
You could probably find a 6534+ or 6505+ for a few hundred cheaper.
wow, so much hate. everyone just RELAX. its called "monsters of high gain" so they are going to have high gain players, with high gain tones, playing high gain music. they are not bad guitarists or bad sounds, they are just not what you like or prefer. if you dont like the amp being used this way go watch another video
Mic placement was awful and the tone was dialled in by noobs. Monsters of High Gain with Ola Englund addressed these issues.
ola englund can't dial in a tone for shit. his tones are much worse then these. all that multi layer bullshit proves it, whenever he shows you his tone for that amp without the layers of gain and recording bullcrap it sounds really bad.
metalmichew2 You do realize that guitars on metal tracks have been at least doubled (I'm assuming by "multi layer" you mean more than one guitar track) for quite some time now, right? As in for the past 30-40 years. Your comment would seem to indicate you've never recorded or mixed anything yourself. A great sound in a room doesn't mean a whole lot if it sounds like garbage when mic'd up and put into a mix. In fact, a lot of tracks in a mix (not just guitars) sound sub par when solo'd. But they fit the mix as a whole very well. That's the end goal - a good mix. And Ola makes some heavy mixes that sound great.
Fair enough, if you prefer the sound of an open and clean mix there's nothing wrong with that. Whether a mix is good or bad is opinion to some degree. And I know lots of people who prefer that their record sound more like a live situation, which it sounds like you do as well, as opposed to a super perfect recording.
I guess the point I was getting at is a good sound to a mix engineer and a good sound to a guitarist may not be the same. I play guitar and mix/produce. When I have my guitarist hat on, I like one sound, but when I put my mixing hat on, I don't care so much about what my guitar sounds like. What I care about is does it work in the mix and work for the song. That was my point about Ola's tone: he says himself he considers himself more of a writer than guitar player, and his main goal is to make good music/mixes. I think he succeeds at that.
For what its worth, for years he's only used two rhythm tracks and only recently started doing four. So I don't think he is over-layering. Most of the thickness/fatness of his mixes come from the bass guitar.
Jackal Fox, I like that idea about the strings. Gotta try that myself.
which is better de mesa boogie dual rectifier or the fryette?
There's been about 3 million albums recorded with Rectos that sound great. I don't need a crappy RUclips video of detuned mush guitars to sway me the wrong way.
Yeah man, I totally agree with you!!!!!
Then WHY. ARE. YOU. HERE.
I'm sure Cannibal Corpse is on that list and they have a tone very similar to the tone Misha has with that 7 string....i don't understand you people with your subjective prattle. Personally, I'd rather this then that overly High tune to Grandpa Rock. This is a high-gain demonstration after all.....
Man, Cannibal Corpse is grandpa rock? If Yes than grandpa rock is way better than this shit what they are playing now called djent.
@@mateuszkucharski1350 Canibal corpse is boomer metal
"Brown sound" hehehehe
Brian Schurr HAhaha I just heard that, and thought did anyone else notice how "poopy" this amp is made to sound? Rectum...rectifier...haha
@KHMetallica1981
Ugh, overdrive pedals are used for tightening/boosting the high gain sound. You always put the distortion knob to 0 with high gain sound.
Anybody can tell me what difference there is between the double (100W) rectifier and the triple (150W) rectifier, please?
Guy cant play shit without his 2 gates, compressor and tube screamer in series.
Terrible. Just terrible.
That actually sounds amazingly sweet. Give me one, right now!
My rectifier don't sound like dis whats a problem?
The worst amp demos on RUclips, this surely marred Misha's reputation as a innovative metal player. Especially given that he's trumped by some KoRn reject who thinks it's 1996
Graiskye I'm not trying to make it in the guitar, I am surprised given his prowess as a player! Chill out
+Mac considering how much the guys in the 90's sold more than current Metal acts & popularity maybe its time modern metal players realise the whole heavier & faster is better actually isnt.
Hey "Bulb", theres already a band called "Meshuggah", stop with the off time garbage.
you obviously havent heard his band
You obviously haven't heard Meshugguh young grasshopper. Your generation of music rips off everything from earlier bands.
periphery isnt a ripoff of meshuggah lol not even close
says the guy with the Justin Bieber haircut. lol
justin bieber haircut and i still have a better grasp of knowledge on music than you nice going
@ElectricTurkey1 I traded my les paul studio for the single and I have a 6505 head and now this and I just wanted to know the diffrence between the two, I have been playing for awhile and dont really know what the diode is.. so instead of using full power of tubes whats the single rec using?
thanks for your reply back
Just because you don't like scooped mids doesn't mean it's the wrong way to play. I also play with scooped mids, it's what I like. It fits both their styles. And they aren't demoing their skill, they're demoing the sound of the amp. If you're curious, Misha is a fantastic guitarist, you can check out Periphery's stuff if you don't know it already.
Is it just me or that misha guy looks like he has just started to play guitar
Go listen to some Periphery and you know.
It's just how he holds the guitar. A little awkward.
***** he said that he Learned it by doing
@AeolianSeventh i suppose that's possible.but friends 6505 had shitty clean.and the 5150 i had was beautifully clean.and his tubes were still stock, while i put in EHX. so that could be all it was.
did they just change the name because they lost licensing with EVH?
I love the overdrive on the amp, sounds as good as anything out there, cleans sounded a bit dull though...dunno if its just a matter of tweaking to brighten them up or its the amp itself
witch setting in ibanez od9?
whats the diff between the duel and the triple rect???
@5:50 what are the chords he plays here? like what type of chord are they
@UncleJoey12 the ts9 notably pushes the mids, and tightens up the bass. A lot of people utilise tube overdrive pedals to pronounce the mids, and tighten up the lows. I use a ts9 for my lead, but everyone is different. One of my friends used to use a ts9 24/7 on his boogie.
@bluedevilxx you're a very impressive person for informing all of us how superior you are.
@dusted04 i shouldn't have to crank an amp on max volume to get the sound I want...I'm sure if I ran a compressor and an EQ pedal in the FX loop then maybe I will get a decent tone, but so far it's not doing it for me.
Sounds really crunchy and high gain, not a lot of clarity though.
Would sound great if paired with an overdriven Marshall to get the clarity the mesa lacks.
@Sean2592 yes i have the triple and it's a night and day difference EL34's are they way to go. I noticed a lot more power and punch when I switched to them
monsters of high gain... now heres the clean channel
@FungusLabel Thanks for clearing up my mind with regards the mixing stuffs to make a boogie sound more awesome :)
did he say "rectal tracking"?
4:11 Listen to the string definition of that chord, despite the intense amount of gain. That's what the Tubescreamer does to a Rectifier; tightens it up, and for lack of a better word 'cleans' it up! My own rig contains a Dual Rec with TS808 that comes on whenever the drive channels are engaged. Best drive sound I've ever had (and I've tried the whole Marshall, Orange and ENGL route).
Letter Experiment! My favorite Periphery riff!! Woot!
3:36 is that a song?! its sick! someone tell me what song that is plzzz.
@joeyrotten101 950 is alot for a dual rec?...
@MrMesaDude Tube screamers have a very specific application. There are tones that you simply cannot reproduce without driving an amp's input signal. When you crank the gain on a preamp, it eventually breaks up & loses it's focus. The tube screamer drives the signal into the amp, allowing you to roll back on the preamp gain and retain your amp's natural clarity.
Does anyone know what song misha plays at 3:38?
Can anyone tell what chord that is at 4:35?
So what happened to your signature Peavey
Sound of TY Dietzler is great
@AeolianSeventh Really? I heard Andy Sneap say that the 5150 III and the 6505 are a bit different, and that he prefers the 5150III, any veracity to this?
Question, why use this amp insted of the Dual Rectifier Roadster? Its $200 more and has another higher-gain channel and a few more bells and whistles. This is a serious question I'm asking if theres a diffrence between the two basically.
Mesa boogie make the best distortion out of here, there are no doubts
how much does this cost?
what's name of the song that him played at channel 3?
@Spirituality1980 more headroom. =P Some people say the triple rec is brighter but i don't hear it.
@joeyrotten101 i got mine for 800$, is that overpriced?
What happened to your signature Peavey
@kizmetx I think the mic position make the sound wrong ;)
What tune is he in, in 2:38?
@rigorhead01 wrong. Dimarzio Crunch Lab and Liquifier combo are actually fairly low output compared to EMGs, or Duncan Blackouts..oh and they are passive too.
@FirePower3006 I looked on their website and they are both using the axe fx as preamps. They are still running the JVM410's. Chris only uses the JVM. Dave is the one running all the different preamps but regardless they are still using Marshall amps. Alwasy have always will.
2:03 what is a "brown sound"?
Eddie Van Halen’s dimed Marshalls. Basically
What's the second song Ty plays? It sounds amazing!
@ogardsveien you are right, he's got some pretty cool demos but keep in mind that he uses compression and eq over the recorded tracks.
is that a stilleto cab or a rectifier cab?
misha looks darker in this video for some reason?
Ola, who does them now?
@kizmetx im sure if we were standing in the room with them it would sound awesome, we arent gonna hear there full tone with only one mic, its only catching one phase of the speaker
What's the second riff Ty plays?
In my opinion, high output pickups don't go well with high gain amplifiers. It's subjective of course, but I much prefer low/mid output pickups. I play a Fender Telecaster '72 Deluxe that has been modified, better, more solid 3-way switch, wiring, brass nut, Seymour Duncan/Bourns 500k pots, .22 Orange drops, Hipshot tuners and bridge and the biggest difference is the pickups. I swapped out the stock Fender Wide-Ranges (that aren't really Wide-Ranges...) for a set of custom made. bespoke and real Wide-Range 'Extra-Width' humbuckers from a British company called The Creamy. The bridge pickup is 11.7k and the neck is 10.4k. For me, they're ideal for low tuning (I use Drop B) and they allow me to have the whole gain structure of my Rockerverb 50 MKIII without sounding muddy and sloppy. The strings contribute too, I use Ernie Ball Cobalts 7 string set with the .10 removed, so it's .62, .52, .42 .30, .17 and .13... Point I'm making, you don't need high output pickups, 7 string or higher instruments to get the best high gain out of an amp.
I totally agree. But I like high and low output pickups, it just depends on the amp I'm playing through. High output pickups through my Recto sounds harsh and it takes some very careful tweaking to get a good rhythm sound, but then those same settings will sound awful for lead work. But low output pickups through a Recto sound incredible, heavy, tight, yet smooth and musical. Inversely, high output pickups sound amazing through lower-mid gain amps like a plexi or jcm800. Whereas low output pickups sound weak and puny through those amps without the volume cranked or a pedal in front.
With the Ibanez tube screamer..do u just add it on top of a already dirty channel? So it makes it more distorted?
Does anyone know what song Ty is playing is at 2:38?
i wanna know too
Jack Woodley-Marshall I have a feeling that it’s a Tfk song that we’ve never heard before... Who knows??
would also love to know
to all the people saying misha's amp sounds like crap,you have to understand that the guitar is a mid range and upper mid range instrument. in the mix the bass takes up the low mid and lows thats the sound you hear in your head, you hear the mix of two guitars and a bass. when playing live or recoeding live the bass needs to be taken out of the guitar which makes the guitar alone sound like crap,but in context it sounds absolutly massive
Yes because it's not a distortion pedal. It's not meant to be used as the only source of distortion. It's meant to add a little bit more drive and tighten up the sound.
@butterknucklez They only sell those in Europe though. Or at least not in the US :/
@gearslut69 the cabinet is standard rectifier cab with 4 celestion vintage 30
Misha with the Evergreen Terrace shirt nice! Got me a Triple Rec on a Orange cab! It’s too legit to quit.
@ElectricTurkey1 Thank you so much I know mesa now haha I never used el34s in my amps. always jj 6l6s but I might have to look into that thank you so much!!
What is the brand of these two guitars ?
is this a 2x12
@spguitar fair enough then! Toured/recorded any well known bands?
what guitars do they use?