Why You Should Buy the Cadillac CT4 Blackwing Instead of a BMW M3 - Two Takes
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The new Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing is the answer to anyone who complains that cars don't involve the driver anymore. With a powerful, responsive turbo six-cylinder engine, a notchy 6-speed manual gearbox, excellent clutch feel, and brilliant chassis dynamics, the Blackwing is everything we could ask for from a sport sedan, especially given the reasonable sub-$60k starting price. It may be a couple of ticks behind the M3 according to the stopwatch, but in every other way, from styling, to ride quality, to sound, to fun, it's taken the crown for itself. Clearly designed by people who not only love driving, but are also very good at it, the Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing is quite possibly the best sport sedan on sale right now.
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Why You Should Buy the Cadillac CT4 Blackwing Instead of a BMW M3 - Two Takes
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The team that develops Blackwing models deserves crazy props for the new offerings. They really are making cars with the best chassis, suspension, and steering in the performance car world at the moment aside from maybe Porsche. Sadly, these models will likely go overlooked because of the Cadillac badge and because Americans seemingly hate reasonably sized sedans.
I hope they're over looked. Cadillac already said they aren't building a ton. Don't want these things being $100k used in 6 years
@@zachweibel3716 probably more like the 2011 CTS-V is like in a few years hopefully. But then again manual so maybe there will be the same kind of premium. I hope so too.
And I like the idea of saying I drive a Cadillac.
So buy a Porsche. Getting a Cadillac serviced is no fun, typical GM lack of quality and dealers that will dent and scratch your car, god knows what time bombs are left inside.
@@zachweibel3716 I don't think the CTSV Wagons being rare did any favors for the prices.
And ev bs
I took delivery of my CT4 V Blackwing on Jan 25. I have put about 982 miles on it in a month, and I work from home. In other words, I don't HAVE to go anywhere but I find reasons to just to get in a few miles. This is the finest vehicle I've owned. It doesn't quite have the hellacious engine/auto-transmission combo of the BMW M3 ( I owned the F80 from 2016-18) but I'd contend, for a car enthusiast, it does everything else better. I got a chance to test drive a 2022 M3 with the manual and it's a monster. Yet, I chose the BW over it because this is the better sports car of the two. Outside of that magical inline 6 engine, Cadillac has the better chassis, steering (not even close), braking, seats, gauges and suspension (again, not particularly close) when compared to the Bimmer. Most importantly, Cadillac's manual is better than the M3 and ultimately leads to a more robust driving experience. I love the M3 and wouldn't fault anyone for buying it. But I think it's been dethroned as the preeminent sports sedan by the BW. One last thing: this isn't loaded at 75k. I don't have all the Carbon Fiber options and I passed on a few more minor options that would have made my car closer to 81k. But if you don't need to have all the carbon fiber bits, you'll be in the 75k range with darn near everything.
im in the same boat, work from home as well so i dont need to go anywhere (lease going back over 38 months has 17,800 miles) but im so impressed with how this and the ctv5 big brother drive. taking delivery of my ct4 blackwing tomorrow :)
@@diabilliq Ok and hows the BW treating you?
I just took ownership of mine 4 days ago and i go out of my way to find reasons to drive it… that first 500mi is agonizing
I had a 2023, 6 speed on order and got nervous about spending $75k on a car and backed out of the deal. I went car shopping a few weeks later and came home with an almost fully loaded 2023 Audi S3. I love it, but it just doesn't give me the thrill I got when I drove my Gen 6 Camaro SS 6 speed.
I haven't driven a 4BW yet, but I know it will give me the feeling I'm looking for because of the spectacular Alpha chasis and that sweet V6. Your comments and this review that I've watched a dozen times are really making me consider a trade so I can get rid of this feeling of compromising.
Same boat. Wfh but that gives me all the reasons to go out for something without putting on a ton of miles. I’ll use it for longer weekend drives or meet-ups. It’s a great all-a rounder and the value is amazing. Nothing wrong with the M3, but this just felt like the more complete package.
That is the art of driving. Mobbing the open road with the situational awareness to slow down and politely and safely interact with other road users. You guys are worthy driving ambassadors.
I think Two Takes might be my new favourite way of learning about new cars. Both really knowledgeable, communicate your points across really well, able to bounce off each other and are different, interesting personalities. And you *know* when you like something vs. when you *really* like something
Thanks!
I just bought a white manual one and I love it!
Matt and Zach - gotta say you two are really in a groove on these videos. I've been watching for years and there was a bit of a lull at one point a few years back, but these are really entertaining and informative again (and have been for some time). Keep 'em coming!
Great video. I agree with everything you said. I drove the new M4 manual press car back to back with the CT4 manual Blackwing and i much preferred the clutch and shifter of the Blackwing and I am a die hard BMW M guy having owned 9 M cars. I hope people buy them. If we want manual cars like this to continue we have to buy them new. I hope i can get my hands on a CT5 Blackwing
No one is buying a manual car anymore only fools that think buying a Chevy Malibu with a Cadillac badge on it is a smart thing to do. It's not for you fools to try and tell people what they like and what to buy and people will keep purchasing bmw's over Cadillac's for ever, we don't buy a vehicle for a clutch or any of the nonsense you guys talk about and that's that you can't convince us to buy a plastic caddy over an M car bozo
I bought the ct4 blackwing over the m3, and haven’t looked back once. Then my neighbor Carl bought a new m3. Both are stunning in person. Drove them directly back to back and while the m3 is slightly quicker due to xdrive the blackwing FEELS way more fun since it gives go kart vibes. I’m blown away Cadillac. WHAT A MACHINE!
Yea the caddy seems more fun but the BMW m3 and m4 just have way better performance with their XDrive system. Only thing that sucks is u have to buy an aftermarket grille like the adro or CSL too make it look good
Slightly quicker? Not so sure about that, the m3 seems to crush the 4BW in head to read racing.
@@EgguEd51 last summer we did some highway pulls with them side by side (both auto transmissions unlike the RUclips comparisons I’ve seen)- it’s really not that different from a roll, but from a dig you’ll notice it for sure. When the bw lights up the rears that’s a good chunk of the margin between the cars, but we expected that from an awd vs rwd comparison. On a dead hook pull for the 4BW, the s58 pulled ever so slightly on the caddy. While engaging on throttle, I felt it lacked the character and spirit of the E9x chassis when not on full throttle (steering feel/ride firmness). Carl traded the g80 for a loaded C8 after 6k miles and did some wild exhaust on it, that car spanks everything in my garage 😂
Cadillac needs to be given praise when it comes to bringing back the buttons. Sure their interiors are behind other luxury cars but they are in a lower price point on their own. Had they kept those touch buttons in this car that would've been the death of it I believe. In 20 years getting back into a car with touch buttons is going to be like trying to use the screen out of a Buick Reatta. Volkswagen ruined their enthusiast cars with the buttons, lets see who else does.
Porsche and Ferrari trying too. Least BMW kept the buttons, if they lost everything else along the way.
I'm a BMW guy, going all the way back to owning a 1993 M Roadster. I'm in the queue for a CT4 - the first American car I"ll own (outside of a few Jeep products) - and can't wait. Haven't been this excited since the first time I got laid!
My BlackWing was just built and it'll sit next to my Supercharged '98 M Roadster :)
Pre-order submitted on this. Can't wait for delivery
Congrats. Hell of a car apparently!
Proud owner of getting one of the first 250 collector series in 6 speed. Headed to spring mounting for Blackwing track day next month. Always love the channel glad you guys loved it as much as I do!
As someone who just took delivery of a new CT4-BW, I do *love* how consistent the brake feel is. It's always bothered me in other performance cars in how the first press is less firm than than the second. Having it the same every time gives a lot of confidence entering a turn. GREAT CAR!!
I just placed my order for a CT4 Blackwing. Electric blue. Carbon aero, black and tan interior, etc. I'm so stoked now we just play the waiting game. Great review.
Carbon Fiber packages are on constraint so that's going to cause your slow down. If your order gets pushed into '23, a price increase is likely. Might be worth ditching the carbon to get in time for '22. The carbon can be had from GM Parts sites and aftermarket.
A neighbour who works at GM took me out for a ride, I was so impressed that now I really want one and I cannot remember the last time I "wanted" a Cadillac. Keep up the good work.
You guys are exacting, and what an excellent, objective review. Though I’ve almost exclusively owned German manual transmission sports sedans, I’ve always wanted to buy a Cadillac but could never quite pull the trigger due to some unfortunate compromises (interior or packaging, etc)…but now, no more excuses. I’m glad to hear this manual CT4-V Blackwing is best in class. We’ll done Cadillac! One last ICE hoorah, and you nailed it!
Cadillac is as good as it's ever been right now, the chassis has been there for awhile and everything else is catching up. My friend's been working for Cadillac as a product trainer for a few months now, their management really shifted in 2017 and turned its back on a lot of the dumb things GM does that hobbles their brands. Not to say all the demons are exorcised, but most of them are. My friend sent me a vid of his bosses taking one of these over 180 on some empty interstate highway in Montana or Nevada or somewhere, it looked stable and it does those speeds...don't recommend repeating it but just saying that 189 MPH top speed is not a lie!
The Giulia is top dog in the chasiss department. This is right up there though. Both are far ahead of the competition imo. They are sharper and more engaging than the Germans.
@@jjchockey You think the Guilia is better than a car developed about 6 years later with mangaride? I have my doubts...
@@MrSchn3ll The CT4's Alpha platform was developed in 2012. The CT4 is a phenomenal vehicle no doubt but the Giulia just has more character. The steering and front end are more precise, the engine is more rowdy, and the chassis is phenomenally balanced like the Cadillac. Plus it looks SO much better imo inside and out.
Ig Cadillac management is turn ing its back on GM's buffoonery, why is the LT2 not offered in the 4VBW? These would sell like hotcakes if that were an offering. Having said that, I LOVE my ATS V. But I'd love it more with a factory installed LT1.
This is one of the few cars I would get fully optioned.
Awesome video guys, you two have Balls of Steel to drive that fast on public roads. I still have my 14 Fiesta ST tricked out with 98,000 miles on it, I’m on my 6th of tires, love driving on three wheels. The Fiesta Flash 🤙🏼🍺🍺🍺
ok im loving this title already can't wait to see how these two professionals confirm my personal biases :')
Don't be afraid to tell the world which car you like.
I choose Cadillac.
BMW sucks nowadays
@@BrandonClark-StocksPassports bmw is selling out the brand to china, a real shame. whatever makes the most money and everything else second.
The number of FWD 2 series I see makes me sulk so hard. People will waste so much money on crap just to get a badge they no nothing about
@@nathanchildress5596 TRUE
Shame we won't likely see these much in UK...they're very cool looking and definitely prettier than the new m3. Something different in the sea of S3s...
Cadillac is a cheap made car compared to both European and Japanese cars.
@@oneviwatara9384 Nope.
I was literally looking for a comparison video for these this morning! So random and great you just uploaded this! I have an order in on a G80 M3 manual and wanted to see if this stacks up.
Wow you guys really like this thing. Was not expecting this glowing of praise for the “lesser” blackwing
I always forget how fast Matt can mob on those canyon roads. Hugely impressive!
You guys be putting out straight bangers of videos
Very entertaining review! Nice to see that Cadillac is making better sedans than BMW, at least in this segment! My wife loved your “murdering vuvuzellas” analogy too (we had to listen to a vuvuzella RUclips clip, as we’d forgotten how irritating they sound).
With regards to V mode, I assume it’s like in my C8 in Z mode. If you have the transmission level set to track and it enters Performance Traction Management then the mode switcher will alternate between the different PTM settings instead of exiting V mode. You have to push the V mode button to exit V mode and select the other drive modes. However, if you have the transmission set to Tour or Sport or sport, using the mode switcher will exit V mode and allow you to switch to the other modes.
Really great review. Nice to see this car carving up canyons v seeing a review on a track or city streets.
Love this! Want one. Have been considering the m240i, but this, with a manual, for not much more money... It might be time to buy 'Merican!!
Love it, would definitely consider this if I needed 4 doors. Hopefully prices stay reasonable.
Dealer markup is still a thing. Give it a couple years and you could get a deal on some clean CPO/used ones. Assuming WWIII doesn't kill us all.
@@Celestion321 probably not in a couple years either since it’ll be closer to every car going electric. they’ll turn into a luxury to buy a gas car since they’re going away.
They’re not. Local dealer has one marked up 18k over sticker….
Good luck trying to get one of these
Another awesome review guys
Great video. I’m so excited about these cars.
This is the reason I was convinced to get one of these next week when it comes in.
Great review guys. I'm ready to pull the trigger on one.
I'm surprised you compared the sound to a modern BWM inline. I have yet to hear one I like in the last 5+ years. This sounds amazing for a V6, which I normally dislike.
V6s can be incredible, though. Evora, F Type, and GTR come to mind, as well as (gasp) modern 6 cylinder Camaros.
It sounds better than the turbocharged BMW inline sixes of recent
@@evanwheeler7687 dude, you are SO right about that V6 Camaro, especially with the manual. Total sleeper car!
ruclips.net/video/Qrs0oa-XIV4/видео.html listen to this
Yeah this thing sounds very muscular compared to my Accord V6, which i think sounds good for a V6
I loooove this car Soooo Murch....another great review...hint I love when Matt gets on it!!!
Front end of the M4 is enough to buy the Caddy.
BMW is really finished and it’s sad to see
@@Boomtowndogs lol. Their sells earrings beg to differ mate. Cadillac has more to be worried about as they are not in the league as the premium German 3 brands.
@@dblezi sales may be fine but their identity is gone. That's what car people care about. Take ur bean counting elsewhere
U obviously haven't seen it with an aftermarket grill like the adro or vorstiner. Looks way more aggresive then this . Like the other comment said BMW is selling record numbers . So nice opinion
Dope review guys!
Yo Matt, you're looking good brother! Love all your content, hope you see this!
I know it would probably have been unfeasible, but it would have been really cool if Cadillac put the LT2 in the ct4v blackwing. The LT2 weighs about the same as the engine in the ct4v blackwing and makes about the same power, but has the character of a small block V8.
I've heard a lot of people say that, and I wonder why GM didn't do it. I know GM has a storied history with turbo V6s but just imagine a blown LT2 in a car this small.
Love mine. Took delivery in Dec and getting ready for first tack day next month.
6spd or 10spd. If you got the 10spd does it shift fast in manual mode?
It wouldn't be a Smoking Tire video without a Michelin plug! Great review guys, car looks sick
Awesome car, superb color combo!!!
Enjoyed the video.
LOVING that Cannon Ball patch
Blown away that you guys would pic this over the CT5v !
Great video
Really like this format, more than. The new more polished format.
Great induction roar. Good ol’ Cadillac.
Great review.
I loveee the CT4 Blackwing! Best drivers car, especially for the money!! Good job Cadillac!
Props on the shot @14:11
I saw a comparison of the CT5 Blackwing vs the BMW M5 CS. The Beemer crushed the CT5 off the line, but was actually slower around the track. Like you say, launch specs are not what is important.
And how much time are you going to be at the track? LOL….
@@Bad_Company666 the point is that it handles better. Driving through a twisty canyon road is way more fun than launching with AWD which involves almost no skill.
@@norwegianblue2017 Handles better? LOL, sure dude whatever you say. Would rather have my 2021 M3 Comp over the Cadi. If you think the only time the BMW "Crushes" that car is off the line, then go watch some more videos. You can have the track the .00005 percent time you decide to go. The BMW checks all the other boxes. You track your Honda Accord lately?
@@Bad_Company666 These guys said they couldn't think of another performance sedan for the $75k price that they would rather have. If you think your M3 Comp is worth the extra $20k-$30k, then by all means, enjoy! You just sound REALLY defensive about it though.
I’m glad you like your BMW, but it’s lost every comparison test to the CT4 I’ve seen, plus you spent another $20K on something uglier.
P.S. From reviews I’ve heard, the last Accord V6 coupe was actually pretty sweet
when you're in V mode, the mode changes PTM. all you have to do is hit the v button again to come out of V mode. learned that on mine!
Great video. This is a compelling car without a doubt.
I think it is something psychological but when you have the number 4 in the model name it looks/sounds cheap when you see it or hear it. I hope it doesn't turn people off because this thing is a beast.
awesome vid! can you do one on the lexus is500 ?
Wish this was coming to the UK
when I first heard about this car I thought they did a minor refresh on the ats-v and were being a little lazy on the engineering.. I was very wrong. the market's kind of broken in general but they are being particularly greedy on these things. I'd like one, but it's a little out of reach. found a mach 1 that I am picking up instead.. we have some great final hoorah's here for driver's focused ICE cars with some manuals. these are going to be very desirable for years to come.
I really want to drive both the CT4 and CT5. I need a new daily and the price for the CT4 is kinda reasonable for what you get!
Nice engine sound.
Yes, great review! I disagree with their comments on the track mode. It’s not meant for the street at all…it’s for track. I have run mine on the track hard and it is for sure planted and gives me plenty of confidence to push the car HARDER than my ATSV. The issue they had on the drive modes is not user error…I had that too but it went away on its own. Other than that …super solid review! Sorry M3…Matt would chose the 4V Blackwing over you:)
this videos going viral for sure, the recommendation aspect + exciting enthusiast car= algorithmic
We won’t see these in Aus so I would never have the opportunity to buy one but i sure did enjoy watching you fellas review it!
FYI, the engine and transmission development was performed at the Holden Proving Ground at Lang Lang, Victoria, so there were a few floating around in Oz before they were all crushed or shipped back to USA. It's a great package. #I_Used_To_Work_For_GM
@@richardggeorge that’s cool! What a shame we’ll never see them!
This is epic!!
Bravi, ragazzi 👏🏼👍🏼
What a great car for what seams to be a solid price
I'd still rather have the CT5-VB but the little brother is still fantastic.
That flyby @ 11:00 was a really fast one. Lol
A shame we don't get these anymore in the EU. I'd definitely take this over the new M3
I am an M car guy but I would definitely take the CT4 blackwing over a new M3 Car looks fantastic!
I'm surprised the weight wasn't mentioned with the same enthusiasm as the manual m4 video when the CT4 is heavier
It's a damn shame we only have a short time to appreciate such an impressive sport sedan from a brand that used to only cater to old people
Thanks for the review. The new Blackwing cars get me all hot and bothered!
Lmao 11:00 I thought the footage was sped up I almost spit out my coffee
Yes that's awesome. I want one
“really fast around the canyon parking lot” made me lol hard
I’m a BMW fan but I really like this car and the CT5 Blackwing. Good job Caddy 👍🏾
I think that you guys just found my next car! Thanks so much for the amazing content! I loved “it’s fast as fuck”!
You guys pointed out why I'm against so much technology in the newer cars. The brakes that Zack mentioned which could be very dangerous and Matt mentioned the car getting stuck in said mode.
And if it gets stuck in said mode odds are that the driver will try and fix it WHITE driving.
I thought the V6 Mustang sounded great until Ford turned in into a rental car.
love Cadillac's new Blackwing cars
Was cross shopping between the M2 and the CT4V Blackwing and honestly it's the redline that killed it for me. I like high reving engines. Have actually never owned a car that's redline is below 7k and the 6,500 redline is criminal
The Blackwing's ecu has been cracked, so a tune for 7k is possible! But also, as a 4BW owner, I'll tell ya, the power band in squarely 3500-5500. Only reason to even get close to 6500 is for no-lift shift.
Zack most brake by wire systems can actually provide nearly full braking capability even if the fluid is completely boiling... pretty much eliminating the concern of brake fade even on track
It's not about capability, it's about lack of feedback and driver confidence. These brakes can fade, and the driver doesn't know. It actually was one of the biggest thing C&D complained about the Blackwing at Lightning Lap.
Very true, if your brakes fade, you want to know. Maybe a pad and fluid swap will give more peace of mind if you beat on it often
I need to get this as my next car
Wow. Really great praise of the ct4bw. Especially when they say can't come up with a better new vehicle for 75k.
as someone who has driven the new g80 m3 (both 6 speed and auto) and was disappointed with both, this looks like a great alternative. It's too bad there's not much Vs out there (southwest) to actually go look at let alone drive, hopefully this will change in the next coming months.
Great review guys. For future consideration in instances like this, mind touching on maintenance costs if you can? Example: the car is American and the only competition is German or Italian (Alfa). I figure it’s advantage American, but it would be great to know either way!
Edit: for a car real people can afford, running costs in a video can really sway opinion. Cheers!
They can’t predict maintenance costs for new cars unless the manufacturer lists them, time will tell. It won’t be cheap, it’s a twin turbo after all, but probably less than any German competitors
I’d like that in the UK 🇬🇧 (base car) right hand drive please with the same price tag 😁
Cadillac,
You’ve come a long way, Baby.
@thesmokingtire would you choose this over a Lexus IS500 F Sport Performance premium edition? I mean that 2UR v8 is nice and reliable….
My daily is a ATS-V sedan and I prefer the way it looks compared to the g80 M3 or the ct4 BW.
Great car. Shame it will never come to the uk
I Love the colour of this truck
Currently trying to decide between buying a used ats-v or leasing a ct4-v (non blackwing). Leaning towards the ats-v, but man I wish I could afford the blackwing!
You can get an 6mt in the ATS-V, so that's a big win. The 2.7 in my wife's CT4 is a tq'y MFer but still a 4 cylinder in the end.
FYI, I bought this exact car. Thanks for burning all the tires off. Steering wheel number plate matches up to mine
Wish they made this an NA LT1 V8
Wonder what the aftermarket will do with this car.
A stretch to recommend over g80/g82 but seems like you are very committed to it.
GMs performance departments are no joke and BMW seems to have gotten complacent and lost. I think Matt and Zack are right
How does it compare to a Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio? The manual transmission puts it over the line for me.
16:12 as a VQ owner I feel attacked (I've kept my exhaust stock for this reason)
Love the guy at 9:51!