I’m fairly certain their health would never increase even with water because giants thinks grass only provides cows with 40% of what they need. It’s like they didn’t research that cows are grazing animals and at least in the USA grass fed cows are a billion dollar industry. This is a huge L for FS25, we wait years for dynamic pastures and it’s useless.
True, I know it increased the health for goats/sheep, but they only need grass in the game. I agree that cows should be fine grass fed, but I think it's an intentional game design. Giants uses their licensing deals as marketing for equipment brands. It would be harder to sell to get licenses for tedders and TMR equipment if it was unnecessary in the game.
@@LoneWolfHeroGaming I figure maybe a good way of looking at it is similar to how crops work. You can leave them alone and do nothing, and get 100% yield, or you can do a bunch of extra steps to increase the yield. In terms of cows, you can just leave them alone and let them be grass fed. You'll still get milk, growth, etc out of them, just not as much as if you did the extra steps of mixing up TMR for them. Unless Giants made it so that 40% food isn't enough to allow for growth, which I think I remember hearing that to be the case. Would have to be another thing to test out. But, that would make so much more sense. Have cows give 100% yield with nothing but water and grass, but give 180% yield with full TMR diet. That way it's feasible to run them on grassland, but much better to use TMR, if you've got the tools for it
I think the 40% doesn't produce milk. It may be ok for beef cattle, but I think they were worth less in 22 than if you fed hey or TMR. It's all an odd setup, and there are a lot of changes that could make it more realistic, but I think it's just Giants trying to get players to use more equipment. If they could graze and be fine, you don't have to make hey or TMR. As is the more equipment you use they healthier and more valuable they are.
I completely agree with both of you.. grass fed cattle is a real thing which in game should be taken as it would IRL. However you get more out of the cows if you take more steps and use said equipment
Thank you Lonewolf for taking the time to test and make this video. I was ready to make a "Test" Save to figure this out. I did test mowing and it started to grow back but its slow. I will be making it a grass field tonight thanks to your video. You got a new subscriber here! I have also read if you take a weeder through the meadow grass it resets it but I havent tried it yet.
@@LoneWolfHeroGaming outstanding to know! I guess it's time to put a small shed, and a small tractor with a weeder or roller on it! Thank you for the great info!
Thank you. Thank you. I was going to try this myself to see if normal field grass was the fix for the grazing, and you answered my question and saved me time. Great video!
I find it disgusting that people pay all this money and then have to fix the game themselves for it to work properly. They don't deserve for people to buy it.
Thankyou lonewolf for taking the time to experiment and at least have this part of the game working to some sort of degree something Giants should of done and at the very least explained how the dynamic pastures work to everyone.... great job nice video and well explained keep up the good work youve gained a new subscriber thanks again lonewolf 👍👍
Hopefully, they will. Unless this was some sort of intended mechanic wo that you still need bales. With the sheep/goats, you can set it up so you never have to do anything.
I randomly had a sheep pasture regrow a small amount of meadow grass for the first time today after weeks of nothing happening, weird because i'm pretty sure it wasn't the recent 1.3 patch that fixed it since that came out last week and it just started working today. EDIT: Figured it out, same idea as the mowing except hail damage in the meadow will regrow it for you, excitement gooone :( Really like the planting grass idea tho just gna do that anyway, didnt expect it to work as meadow grass!
That actually makes some sense. The hail must reset the growth state by killing off the meadow grass. This could actually be in part because of 1.3 the patch stated they fixed direct seeding after hail damage, people were having problems with being unable to plant in hail damaged spots, so I would think on grass/meadow it now should regrow after the hail, since it shouldn't need to be replanted.
Great video, and info sharing. Hopefully, it will get patched. I have found that you can mulch or roll as well as cut the grass to get the meadow growing again. As long as you reset the grass state. I am now roleplaying that I mulch it once a year in spring to increase yield in the meadow👍
Meadow & water alone isn't enough to get 100% health and from watching other video's, if you supply TMR, Hay, Silage they eat from the top down so unless you stop providing it, the meadow would never be touched. Good to know information you provided, but way more work than it needs to be. Just provide TMR, Hay or Silage, any one of them with water will provide 100% health.
Yeah, it's more useful for the goats and sheep since it will give them 100% health, and you can set it up so you never have to touch them during the summer months, or ever if you have seasons off.
just feed the grown cows sillage and your good 80%. let the smaller heifers or babies eat field grass as you can save a bit of sillage that way they dont need to be on 80% as they dont produce anything yet.
I have heard a little about people having this problem, I haven't seen it myself, though. What map and field/s are you on. Have you rolled, mulched, fertilized, or limed the field? And to try and help, the last time I heard about this, the only possible solution seemed to be to cultivate or plow and replant the grass.
Wondering if a created fence is destroyed, how does it affect herd size? If you put a gate in to go inside and mow. Best option to preplant. Thanks for the information
No, it doesn't seem to change the recognized size of the pasture. So if you wanted to increase the size of the pasture to have a larger herd, you would have to delete and replace the building.
Hello, i just placed one for my goats and sheep with planted grass, however, it just resets when it's empty and it's the next day, it does not refill every day, anyone else who has this problem?
It sounds like it’s just a visual preference some want the grass to be visible some don’t care about it and just leave it how it comes when you plant the meadow it doesn’t bother me
It really applies more to sheep and goats, they can be set up to graze year round without feeding if you make a large pasture and don't overcrowd it. Visually it will also regrow, it just doesn't count as food. That's what lead me to this in the first place, I saw people being confused over it.
Thanks for the advice, that's why I explained the solutions early, though. There have been a good number of people denying all bugs and problems in FS25, so I figured I'd show everything on this.
@LoneWolfHeroGaming I've found lots to bugs on the Xbox version. With the dirt bike. It sometimes limits it's self to 16 mph. Slow to a stop and having it shift into reverse and back into gear fixes it and allows it to go faster. Top speed is 40 FYI. I have ai helper issues on field 4 as well were they miss a part of the field edge.
@josephbentley5799 consoles are always neglected because lord forbid Microsoft or Sony make a high end product. But the dirt bike seems half asses all the way through no matter what.
@Shumanator94 Most people are not trying to buy a $2000 console, so it would make sense that the consoles are not advanced as the current pc set up. The series S is already 4 years old. The dirt bike is almost exactly like one of the dirt bike Mods that I use on fs22. Only thing that really changed is that it will reset to the upright position while the mod didn't.
ADDING different feed options into pens will fix all,must be over 100% combined. Growing grass only accounts for 40%. I Really like that we can now move/expand to cover whole fields and total cow supported.
Cows don't combine feed types like pigs or horses do. Cows eat the highest quality available food until it runs out, then move on to the next highest. For instance they won't eat hay while TMR is available, and won't eat grass while hay is available.
Anyone els that has sometimes yelow ore red dots in there screen sometimes down right and sometimes its left but the red one is bigger than the yellow one verry anoying
Check through the different pant and boot options. One is inside and another is outside. If you can't find it let me know, I will look up the numbers of what clothes I have selected.
I think people are completely missing the point if the meadow grass and grazing feature. Grazing is meant to help bring down the cost of feeding the animals and in real life eating just straight grass won’t hurt a cows health. This setup is meant as a place to put cows in the warmer months then bring them back to the barn for winter where you can feed them more than just grass.
People are not missing the point. Game mechanic is just broken. IRL Cows can reproduce and produce milk when they’re put out on the pastures. They don’t need anything additional. As of right now, unless you feed them them silage, the productivity score is too low for cows to be any sort of useful by using grazing. Not to mention as shown by the video even if you rotate cows between pastures meadow grass doesn’t regrow without tricks.
@@dyadyaBOB to be fair i probably should’ve clarified I am speaking more about beef cattle which is what is primarily raised where I am and really aren’t for milking. You put them in the pasture and leave them. I do agree with the game mechanics on the effectiveness of eating just grass. But people act like just straight grazing is a substitute for barn life. Dairy and beef cattle are raised quite different and I know little about the dairy side but I doubt a dairy farmer would just put their cows out to pasture and forget about them for the summer.
@ That’s exactly how grassfed milk is produced. Cows are let out on pastures to be fed for 4 to 6 months per year and some places it can be longer. Grassfed milk is higher quality milk and the only additional thing they might be fed is molasses for vitamins. In the winter you would feed them forage like alfalfa. Depending on your operation or where cows graze, you would have mobile milking parlor trailers or have cows comeback to barn for milking. This kind of practice is environment and animal friendly as well. So, I don’t get what Giants are doing by limiting the gameplay. They can easily tie meadow grass to seasonal growth and make cows be 100% productive from May to November. I would be even ok if they made meadow grass regrow after one season of no cows in the pasture. This would make for a cool gameplay where you actually have to rotate pastures. They can add mechanics that meadow grass would run out faster if lets say pasture is more than 70% full which would be highly realistic. They already kinda have this mechanic for Goats but not Cattle.
@ ya didn’t know that about dairy cattle. Giants needs more actual farmers or people who really know farming to help with stuff. But this is also a brand new system they’ve implemented so there’s going to be some improvements needed and some tweaks along the way. This is a more complex issue so we can’t expect them to get it right first try when they get much simpler stuff wrong just as much. It’s still a major step up in the game.
This is irrelevant to this topic but there are bugs when harvesting corn and sunflowers- missing animations, idk how to report the bugs, maybe you do. Saw early footage gameplay that didn’t show this bug before launch.
Bugs can get reported here feedback.giants-software.com/login_page.php. here is more info on the bug reporting. forum.giants-software.com/viewtopic.php?t=168424
It’s completely pointless anyway because if all they eat is grass then they won’t reproduce and you get no milk, slurry or manure. Giants gave us a cool feature but the implementation is pathetic.
Yeah, it works better for goats/sheep. If you use a barn for them, you can set it up so that you can completely ignore them (until winter with seasons). Plus, it gives you a backup if you forget to feed them so they don't drop to 0% health.
I’m fairly certain their health would never increase even with water because giants thinks grass only provides cows with 40% of what they need.
It’s like they didn’t research that cows are grazing animals and at least in the USA grass fed cows are a billion dollar industry.
This is a huge L for FS25, we wait years for dynamic pastures and it’s useless.
True, I know it increased the health for goats/sheep, but they only need grass in the game. I agree that cows should be fine grass fed, but I think it's an intentional game design. Giants uses their licensing deals as marketing for equipment brands. It would be harder to sell to get licenses for tedders and TMR equipment if it was unnecessary in the game.
@@LoneWolfHeroGaming I figure maybe a good way of looking at it is similar to how crops work. You can leave them alone and do nothing, and get 100% yield, or you can do a bunch of extra steps to increase the yield.
In terms of cows, you can just leave them alone and let them be grass fed. You'll still get milk, growth, etc out of them, just not as much as if you did the extra steps of mixing up TMR for them. Unless Giants made it so that 40% food isn't enough to allow for growth, which I think I remember hearing that to be the case. Would have to be another thing to test out.
But, that would make so much more sense. Have cows give 100% yield with nothing but water and grass, but give 180% yield with full TMR diet. That way it's feasible to run them on grassland, but much better to use TMR, if you've got the tools for it
I think the 40% doesn't produce milk. It may be ok for beef cattle, but I think they were worth less in 22 than if you fed hey or TMR. It's all an odd setup, and there are a lot of changes that could make it more realistic, but I think it's just Giants trying to get players to use more equipment. If they could graze and be fine, you don't have to make hey or TMR. As is the more equipment you use they healthier and more valuable they are.
I completely agree with both of you.. grass fed cattle is a real thing which in game should be taken as it would IRL. However you get more out of the cows if you take more steps and use said equipment
Nice video
Thank you Lonewolf for taking the time to test and make this video. I was ready to make a "Test" Save to figure this out. I did test mowing and it started to grow back but its slow. I will be making it a grass field tonight thanks to your video. You got a new subscriber here!
I have also read if you take a weeder through the meadow grass it resets it but I havent tried it yet.
I had another commentor also confirm that a roller and muncher fix it. So, it seems that anything that will change the growth state will restart it.
@@LoneWolfHeroGaming outstanding to know! I guess it's time to put a small shed, and a small tractor with a weeder or roller on it! Thank you for the great info!
There is a brand new roller mod that has a small grass roller if you want to go that routewww.farming-simulator.com/mod.php?mod_id=305143&title=fs2025
Thank you. Thank you. I was going to try this myself to see if normal field grass was the fix for the grazing, and you answered my question and saved me time. Great video!
I feel like there's a lot of things that are "not quite working correctly"..
I find it disgusting that people pay all this money and then have to fix the game themselves for it to work properly. They don't deserve for people to buy it.
Thanks for showing this, i will plant grass in the starting cow pen.
Thankyou lonewolf for taking the time to experiment and at least have this part of the game working to some sort of degree something Giants should of done and at the very least explained how the dynamic pastures work to everyone.... great job nice video and well explained keep up the good work youve gained a new subscriber thanks again lonewolf 👍👍
Maybe in Giant's first "update" or "patch" they will fix it properly
@@MooseJR82 fully agree Giants are pretty good at patching most things at least been gameing on fs since 2013 avid supporter of what they do. 👍
Hopefully, they will. Unless this was some sort of intended mechanic wo that you still need bales. With the sheep/goats, you can set it up so you never have to do anything.
I randomly had a sheep pasture regrow a small amount of meadow grass for the first time today after weeks of nothing happening, weird because i'm pretty sure it wasn't the recent 1.3 patch that fixed it since that came out last week and it just started working today.
EDIT: Figured it out, same idea as the mowing except hail damage in the meadow will regrow it for you, excitement gooone :(
Really like the planting grass idea tho just gna do that anyway, didnt expect it to work as meadow grass!
That actually makes some sense. The hail must reset the growth state by killing off the meadow grass. This could actually be in part because of 1.3 the patch stated they fixed direct seeding after hail damage, people were having problems with being unable to plant in hail damaged spots, so I would think on grass/meadow it now should regrow after the hail, since it shouldn't need to be replanted.
I buy hay bales in the store and feed them to the animals to minimize pasture usage
Same.
Great video, and info sharing. Hopefully, it will get patched. I have found that you can mulch or roll as well as cut the grass to get the meadow growing again. As long as you reset the grass state. I am now roleplaying that I mulch it once a year in spring to increase yield in the meadow👍
Thanks for the info!
Meadow & water alone isn't enough to get 100% health and from watching other video's, if you supply TMR, Hay, Silage they eat from the top down so unless you stop providing it, the meadow would never be touched. Good to know information you provided, but way more work than it needs to be. Just provide TMR, Hay or Silage, any one of them with water will provide 100% health.
Yeah, it's more useful for the goats and sheep since it will give them 100% health, and you can set it up so you never have to touch them during the summer months, or ever if you have seasons off.
just feed the grown cows sillage and your good 80%. let the smaller heifers or babies eat field grass as you can save a bit of sillage that way they dont need to be on 80% as they dont produce anything yet.
Great can you do a video on why or how grass is stuck on harvested after harvesting? I've let it go for a year and it still says harvested.....
I have heard a little about people having this problem, I haven't seen it myself, though. What map and field/s are you on. Have you rolled, mulched, fertilized, or limed the field? And to try and help, the last time I heard about this, the only possible solution seemed to be to cultivate or plow and replant the grass.
Did you try rolling the grass instead of mowing it to restart the growth?
No, I didn't. It probably would work since rolling changes the growth state as well.
Wondering if a created fence is destroyed, how does it affect herd size? If you put a gate in to go inside and mow. Best option to preplant. Thanks for the information
No, it doesn't seem to change the recognized size of the pasture. So if you wanted to increase the size of the pasture to have a larger herd, you would have to delete and replace the building.
Sounds like an opportunity for a pasture extension mod 😂
Hello, i just placed one for my goats and sheep with planted grass, however, it just resets when it's empty and it's the next day, it does not refill every day, anyone else who has this problem?
You probably have too many goats for the field size then. They are essentially eating the grass before you can see it regrow. Try selling some off.
@@LoneWolfHeroGaming well they take like 4 to 5 days to eat everything, but it only regrows the day after it is empty
I thought I saw a couple of veichles that are supposed to let you put more meadow in.
It sounds like it’s just a visual preference some want the grass to be visible some don’t care about it and just leave it how it comes when you plant the meadow it doesn’t bother me
It really applies more to sheep and goats, they can be set up to graze year round without feeding if you make a large pasture and don't overcrowd it.
Visually it will also regrow, it just doesn't count as food. That's what lead me to this in the first place, I saw people being confused over it.
Thanks very much for that insight and your stream 👍 😊
Dont bloat videos to make them 10 minutes. Just mention the issue and tell the answer. You'll grow a lot more that way.
Thanks for the advice, that's why I explained the solutions early, though. There have been a good number of people denying all bugs and problems in FS25, so I figured I'd show everything on this.
@LoneWolfHeroGaming I've found lots to bugs on the Xbox version. With the dirt bike. It sometimes limits it's self to 16 mph. Slow to a stop and having it shift into reverse and back into gear fixes it and allows it to go faster. Top speed is 40 FYI. I have ai helper issues on field 4 as well were they miss a part of the field edge.
@josephbentley5799 consoles are always neglected because lord forbid Microsoft or Sony make a high end product. But the dirt bike seems half asses all the way through no matter what.
You have no idea how youtube works..
@Shumanator94 Most people are not trying to buy a $2000 console, so it would make sense that the consoles are not advanced as the current pc set up. The series S is already 4 years old. The dirt bike is almost exactly like one of the dirt bike Mods that I use on fs22. Only thing that really changed is that it will reset to the upright position while the mod didn't.
I thought you were saying Metal Grass. I was so confused. I actually enjoy missing up their food. Im sure it's annoying for folks though.
great tip thank you!
I'm glad it helps!
Fixes and workarounds? What do you mean??? This a brand new game! It can’t possibly have been released not working correctly
ADDING different feed options into pens will fix all,must be over 100% combined. Growing grass only accounts for 40%. I Really like that we can now move/expand to cover whole fields and total cow supported.
Cows don't combine feed types like pigs or horses do. Cows eat the highest quality available food until it runs out, then move on to the next highest.
For instance they won't eat hay while TMR is available, and won't eat grass while hay is available.
Anyone els that has sometimes yelow ore red dots in there screen sometimes down right and sometimes its left but the red one is bigger than the yellow one verry anoying
If you are on console, I know MrSealyP just did a video about fixing that.
How do you get your pants to go over your cowboy boots? My pants get tucked into them.
Check through the different pant and boot options. One is inside and another is outside. If you can't find it let me know, I will look up the numbers of what clothes I have selected.
What about using a mulcher?
As now confirmed by another viewer, rolling or mulching will reset the growth as well.
I think people are completely missing the point if the meadow grass and grazing feature. Grazing is meant to help bring down the cost of feeding the animals and in real life eating just straight grass won’t hurt a cows health. This setup is meant as a place to put cows in the warmer months then bring them back to the barn for winter where you can feed them more than just grass.
People are not missing the point. Game mechanic is just broken. IRL Cows can reproduce and produce milk when they’re put out on the pastures. They don’t need anything additional. As of right now, unless you feed them them silage, the productivity score is too low for cows to be any sort of useful by using grazing. Not to mention as shown by the video even if you rotate cows between pastures meadow grass doesn’t regrow without tricks.
@@dyadyaBOB to be fair i probably should’ve clarified I am speaking more about beef cattle which is what is primarily raised where I am and really aren’t for milking. You put them in the pasture and leave them. I do agree with the game mechanics on the effectiveness of eating just grass. But people act like just straight grazing is a substitute for barn life. Dairy and beef cattle are raised quite different and I know little about the dairy side but I doubt a dairy farmer would just put their cows out to pasture and forget about them for the summer.
@ That’s exactly how grassfed milk is produced. Cows are let out on pastures to be fed for 4 to 6 months per year and some places it can be longer. Grassfed milk is higher quality milk and the only additional thing they might be fed is molasses for vitamins. In the winter you would feed them forage like alfalfa. Depending on your operation or where cows graze, you would have mobile milking parlor trailers or have cows comeback to barn for milking. This kind of practice is environment and animal friendly as well. So, I don’t get what Giants are doing by limiting the gameplay.
They can easily tie meadow grass to seasonal growth and make cows be 100% productive from May to November. I would be even ok if they made meadow grass regrow after one season of no cows in the pasture. This would make for a cool gameplay where you actually have to rotate pastures. They can add mechanics that meadow grass would run out faster if lets say pasture is more than 70% full which would be highly realistic. They already kinda have this mechanic for Goats but not Cattle.
@ ya didn’t know that about dairy cattle. Giants needs more actual farmers or people who really know farming to help with stuff. But this is also a brand new system they’ve implemented so there’s going to be some improvements needed and some tweaks along the way. This is a more complex issue so we can’t expect them to get it right first try when they get much simpler stuff wrong just as much. It’s still a major step up in the game.
Just roll it peeps. This vid was way too long to just give a simple solution.
This is irrelevant to this topic but there are bugs when harvesting corn and sunflowers- missing animations, idk how to report the bugs, maybe you do.
Saw early footage gameplay that didn’t show this bug before launch.
Bugs can get reported here feedback.giants-software.com/login_page.php. here is more info on the bug reporting. forum.giants-software.com/viewtopic.php?t=168424
I believe you can report issues to Giants by selecting their support menu on their website.
It’s completely pointless anyway because if all they eat is grass then they won’t reproduce and you get no milk, slurry or manure. Giants gave us a cool feature but the implementation is pathetic.
Yeah, it works better for goats/sheep. If you use a barn for them, you can set it up so that you can completely ignore them (until winter with seasons). Plus, it gives you a backup if you forget to feed them so they don't drop to 0% health.
Giants just got rich selling a broken game.. Period