The Art Skill Tree: Or why "I have Drawn my Entire Life" Doesn't Matter
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"...play with as many balls as possible..."
your advice is my inspiration
MaNammaJeff
lol you're on amino aren't you?
2EXTREME2008 what? no
MaNammaJeff
oh . . . my bad . . .
i saw someone on amino with that same avatar
You will feel more comfortable playing with the same pair of balls for the rest of your life tho.
JOKER X7 but in order improve you gotta play with more balls
Vincent van Gogh started drawing at age 27 so there's that...
He also kinda invented his own thing on his own, so there's that. He wasn't practicing, he was discovering. It's not quite 1:1 to talking about "how long have you been drawing" in the usual context. That said, thumbs up.
Soitisisit he knew some other artists from france, for sure got some tips and knew some standard techniques but yes he was revolutionary because of the self thought process in his life
he did?!? Wow!!
Be he also dief
That’s really cool to know, feel like I’m not starting to late
TIL An artist's life is an endless Skyrim skill tree.
Zurgo Pussysmasher just makes me want to draw more tbh
Modded Skyrim perk tree.
Zurgo Pussysmasher holy shit that is literally what I was thinking!
Zurgo Pussysmasher I was thinking of a Sphere Grid in FFX XD
lol
I need more balls in my life.
etodreca Where can I get that bee?!?
etodreca HE'S MINE NOW. I can't stand how adorable this bee is.
*suppresses laughter*
ur a girl a gaymr?
I will play with all the balls 2:22
Balls.
Testicles
You play with them.
Jon Dunham hopefully you play with as many balls as possible
More than you could possibly imagine.
It got me gigglin', especially when he realized 'sounds bad' XD 'playing with balls'
So we shouldn't be asking how many years a person has draw, but how many balls the persons has played with.
*oh ok*
Lol
*...dang*
Oh, I get it now.
*w h a t*
My mother used to draw a lot when she was younger, she and her sister were more inclined to arts. so since i was very very young i was always drawing because of the influence. but i didn't start taking it seriously until high school. and until i got serious with it i never thought i could actually pull off drawing REAL cool stuff. but now i'm working really hard on it. unlocking them ballzz..
Uchi I'm actually curious! Do you have an art account on ig? I would love to check it out :) I've also been drawing my entire life but I've only started to take it seriously 2 years ago. I started an art account to share my art and I know I'm nothing special but I think I've got good ideas, I just got to bring them to life ahaha
Well its actually kind of a weird situation. im in a "change" period right now, including moving to another country, so i recently closed most of my accounts, and im just kinda hogging my art to myself at the moment :p but i'll reopen these places soon, with all my most recent art and remakes of old stuff. i can notify you when i do that if you're still interested :) can you show me your stuff though? cuz now I'M curious.
Uchi sure, notify me here on yt, and good luck with your changes, I wish you all the best :) My account is @verticallychallenged_bunny ! I've got some projects on my mind but I'm studying a lot for the uni and I don't have time to dedicate to it right now :/
same with me!! :0
@@joaquindeoliveira5564 can it get more messed up than this? XD
IT'S ALL CRAP
really motivate, keep it up!
I sure wasn't expecting a plot twist in an art lesson, but there it was.
@@patrickcoyle5469 ha 69, funny number haha.
I've always wanted to draw my whole life, but I always felt so intimidated by the "I've drawn my whole life" people that I felt there was no point and I couldn't possibly catch up. This video made me realize how stupid that was and that I really need to stop feeling sorry for myself and just start learning how to draw. This was really the final push I needed, so I'm really thankful for that. Keep up the good work! :)
You gotta start playing with more balls.
go for it!!!
As someone who is in the "I've drawn my whole life" club I have to say, we're a bunch of hacks lol. Do ya thang boo!
I know this comment is 2 years old but I've been struggling with the exact same issue. It can be especially uncomfortable if they ask me that question, since my instinct would be to also say "my entire life" since I've always loved to draw, but if you really looked at the total amount of time I've given purely to art it would be 2 years at the absolute best
The push for me was I have no direction or motivation and everyone I know moved and I'm alone with my thoughts for now until the end, so obviously I'm going to fulfill my 10 year old fantasies.
also there have never been more resources out there, what a time to draw.
when I started my channel to practice and have a little fun doodling.. I didn't realize I'd be playing with so many balls
Talking is hard so I'll just say you make good videos.
Same. 😩
your videos are harsh and realistic I really like it
He's the logical side of drawing that appears to be missing from most youtube channels
Especially the part about playing with balls
Nasty-looking Navi *yEaH PLaY wHItH bAlLs*
No hate
I like that his harsh and realistic videos are also strangely motivational and not just directionless cynicism
One of my friends has been "drawing her whole life" but she hadn't really been getting better until she met me. I was obsessed with getting better, and she kind of picked up on that. Suddenly she was asking for my advice for every picture and she got so much better very, VERY quickly doing this. I'm not saying I'm awesome or anything, but I understood more and giving her advice and her trying to understand it and researching for herself let her skills skyrocket more in the past year than the 5 or so years before that. We're almost the same in terms of skill now, so she has slowed down her progress and now we enjoy critiquing each other. I'm no longer super into improving, so I'm sure she will pass me in the next year or so. I can't wait to start hearing her advice for me! How the tables will turn.
Wholesome friendly rival energy :3
Really sweet :D
how u guys now?
@@hamloaff We got a third friend who was even better than us so now we're about the same lmao. She's really good at humans and I'm good at animals/creatures.
@@marshmallowmountains4636 yooo you responded :D heheghjs that’s cool :DD
The most disgusting thing people say is “you have the gift”
When someone says that, I’ll immediately try to convince them that any improvement in personal talent is done by effort.
Usually people who say it are older and aren’t really convinced in te end because they spent their entire life thinking like this
no it's a gift
For sure. I think some people might have a slightly better time learning certain skills (whether it be drawing, taking pictures, or even something like swimming), but to get truly good you have to put in a lot of time and effort. Like maybe someone was always a little ahead of their peers at drawing when they were a kid, but they didn't become really good until they spent a lot more time doing it and learning about it.
drawing is just a skill, so is cooking, music, playing chess.. anyone can learn those. the issue is when you feel like it gets pointless because some people perform better than you, this is where you need to seriously reevaluate why you're doing the thing in the first place.
@@vaitetomarnocu you have a hamster wheel for a brain
@@layalsaleh4103 and you have a gift
I'm so glad that you steered away from the "here's a linear graph" thing. Very satisfying to see you toss it out the window. Creativity comes in waves and clusters. Typically waves are generated because of the wind, and wind comes from the patterns of the moon and sun. It's all just nonsense we try and wrap science around, but we're learning new shit all the time.
I know your comment is 4 yo but this is one hell of a metaphor
Sorry but next time someone asks me how long I've been drawing, I'll say _"You are not permitted to ask me such foolish things"_
Miya lol
lol
@Froot um you screwed it up
if you think about it, everyone has been drawing their whole life. Some just take it more seriously than others
And some draw as often as once per year. Still enough to say "my entire life".
Well, I dont draw every single day because I have a life ya know, but five times a week, more or less. And, I do crafts if I'm not drawing. I dont think being good at art is correlated with determination and practice at 100% like math, some people are faster at learning than others. That doesnt mean you need to drown in pity and stop practicing. Just do not compare yourself, value your art, practice and you will get there at your pace
Yeah, it's like asking a mathematician how long he has been doing math for.... like... since he could
@@LittleHoneyBee927 yeah you right they are going to pay attention to details more than their peers
I can definitively say that I started drawing in third grade. The downside? I could always draw well “for my age”. Because the people in my community cared more about sports than art, everyone would gush that I was an amazing artist.
But I noticed in high school that I truly had no one to compare myself with. Even my art teacher loved my work (which says more about my peers lack of skills than my own). It wasn’t until I went to university for animation that I realized how basic my skills were. Especially digital art, because I was too poor to afford an iPad and assumed drawing with a mouse wasn’t acceptable.
Now, instead of comparing myself to others, I get inspired to improve my own work. Like “Woah, that pose is so dynamic. I need to work on poses to get on their level!”
I started thinking like that instantly, bc what inspired me to start was fanarts about Don't Starve (yep, fanarts on a game made me wanna be able to draw) i have a second reason which is being able to "create" scenes and ideas on a piece of paper, kinda like a brain printer.
Honestly I think a lot of the problem is that people who haven't been drawing their whole lives feel discouraged, like drawing isn't for them and they'll never be good. It can be hard to realize that starting late is just as good, especially when you feel really behind (and of course the "talent" bullcrap doesn't make it better - talent doesn't make you good at drawing, practice & skill does).
The talent bullcrap doesn't help because most people don't understand what it means. Your reaction is more productive, to simply discard the whole concept, but it's still completely wrong. Give two people the exact same resources and exact same time to practice and they will still not make art of equal quality. It's just how it is.
@@dopaminecloud They won't. But they can still both make quality. Talent also isn't a base thing, like "this is gonna make me good at drawing" - it's more of, "imitating real life objects in sketches is gonna be easier for me, but anatomy and posing without reference will be a lot harder". It's different and unique for every person.
Obviously everyone is different and are going to learn the same things at different rates and in different ways. But everyone is capable of success, and putting in consistent effort in meaningful ways is how you get there.
That's why I say "I've been drawing ever since I could hold a crayon." which, according to my parents is true.
Ya but youre not special for having done that. Most children are given crayons to draw with, its kinda a staple of childhood - learning to use a pencil or crayon.
@@ordinarytree4678 that's the irony in it, (I think) thats what he meant
Love the animation style, its makes the visuals of the videos much nicer to watch, though they weren't bad before. Keep it up
Thank you! Will try to keep up with these when it feels like a good fit
"Ive been drawing for my entire life" ive been eating my entire life but i still bite my tongue sometimes.
I honestly thought this was gonna be about Draw My Life videos based on the title
Also, I've been drawing for as long as I can remember, and it's something I take pretty seriously. I took art classes in school because I wanted to be a better artist. When I look back at my previous work, it looks like garbage, but I see that as a good thing since it's proof of how far I've come as an artist. Btw, you earned a sub.
Well of course it looks like garbage beacuse every famous, good artist start from nothing and then gets better *but never compare your art with others art for multiple reasons*
"I honestly thought this was gonna be about Draw My Life videos based on the title" ME TOO
Can I ask why?
I thought comparing was a good thing(in some ways..)
ahh i see
Thank you very much for taking the time & effort to respond :)
But you don't understand! I *HAVE* drawn my entire life! Ever since I was a fetus, I grabbed my first pencil, and beautifully remade the Mona Lisa painting. I became the most famous person in the world, and Albert Einstein came to my house an congratulated me. After this, everybody clapped.
Albert Einstein, the famous artist.
Albert Einstein my fav artist, I’m impressed you got him to congratulate you
Hit Lur congratulated me instead. Does that still count? I mean... I started drawing even when I was just a formless pile of atoms.
I only have two balls....is that enough to improve?
You need more balls
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I might be too lare but someone don't have them at all.
p.s. I'm not a sexist
I know a certain Japanese individual who has four balls. :)
"An endless ocean of balls"
I literally have. My entire family is made up of artists, so from a very young age my destiny had already been set. Every day when I came home from school, before doing anything else, I was sat down to practise drawing. They encouraged my career as an artist from the very beginning, I have no say in the matter. I’m not complaining though, I’m thankful and really do want to do this.
Thank you for your videos sir! Lots of videos are about "how to draw an eye" or " how to draw a tree " etc. But self-learning beginners really need methodology to begin their practice!
02:34 sounds like my sexlife ^^
Metabohai Same
I've only been playing with my own, guess I gotta find more balls to play to get better.
pervert
I do not draw myself, but as a composer I’ve always found your videos so interesting because of the parallels that can be drawn between all of your thoughts on drawing and my experience with composing. The ‘ball’ metaphor seemed especially relevant, idk, either way I am very glad that you make the videos you do
Art is art. No matter the form.
HUGE thanks on alot of this talk here being a very supportive and realistic way to look at drawing. I've been drawing for just 10 years but I have to fully agree with how a sketch can show what more you need to learn from your work. Still learning everyday to become a decent artist but there's alot to learn like you said and hats off to you for mentioning all of that. Many thanks for alot of your videos, they really have helped me learn some vital things for this crazy little hobby. ^-^
So true, I could say the same thing about me drawing art but in the grand scheme of things I've gotten nowhere. I think I'm scared to take it seriously, no matter how much I want to get good.
Scared? It's not scary. It's just tiresome work, because you're supposed to actually be thinking and making informed decisions while you draw instead of just letting flow take over.
Your brain should actually physically hurt during and after a good drawing session because the neurons are restructuring themselves. That's how you know you're learning.
I guess its that tough gap between what should be purely enjoyable to being work and a tiresome affair. I know it should still be fun because of the journey and all but its a struggle to deal with that sense of getting nowhere (even if I probably actually am getting somewhere). If I want to get good I just have to deal with it huh.
It's different from when you're learning vs performing. What I described above was the learning process. However, most people only perform when the draw. Performing is the enjoyable aspect, but think of it like a piano recital. You put in hours of practice each day for several months just to play a 10 minute song for an audience. The learning portion takes up a vast majority of your drawing time.
Makes sense nicely put!
I like to say I started as a kid. I chose to do it over school work. I've somehow improved to being able to draw photo realistic pieces despite going massive lengths of time without practice. I'd probably be a professional if I actually did something with my art instead of just drawing cool action poses when the mood struct me, or replicate profiles of famous people as last minute birthday gifts.
My gift only serves me for menial things because I've simply not dedicated the time to make anything of it.
Probably started drawing at about 2 and decided I wanted to seriously pursue it at 11. But as a child, I was extremely stubborn and didn't want to learn things that didn't directly interest me so things like perspective are what I'm having to work on now that I've realised you don't get very far by staying in the comfort zone.
Thank you for saying that statement doesn't matter. I haven't really gotten into art that much back in my country (Vietnam) and when I went to America to study at a university, I saw some people seemed to have come from art families or that they have formed some art foundation for themselves even before being a freshman. This made me feel like I could never catch up like them and I felt really sad that I cried once after class. Thanks for being informative, now that I have more confidence in myself!
Haven't watched it yet but I'm guessing it's about when people go "oh I've been drawing my entire life why aren't I good oh boo hoo" even though they never really got into it.
You have a point but some do seriously try hard non stop and never really improve and maybe it's because of body problems or mental problems like LD, stress, emotion can affect it too. i never knew this and no one told me i found out years later so say you are feeling flustered and hopeless if you draw at that time its probably how your art will come out not always but it can happen and given some examples i experienced myself i think i have this issue. I was never able to grasp onto things as fast no matter how hard i tried and resources were scarce, all the tutorials i found were way too breezed over and sped through (part of that is cuz i am terrible at key words and where to look but is that my fault or that i "dont take art seriously?" no. i also live in a place where they say "art isnt important" and so im not as much surronded by it and was always down talked by parents and other adults and yeah ignore what people say sure but when you are kid your brain developing shit DOES get drilled into your head wether u personally feel that way believe it etc or not and that's where we get people who have a hard time accepting or changing things. Hating on what is different from what they know. Sometimes, it can be MUCH more expanded and complicated then a simple "Try your hardest and take it seriously and you'll never fail or don't try and half ass it and always suck" I mean i have had moments where i personally was half assing stuff for shits and giggles and it looked great then the next day i actually TRIED and it looked horrendous.
@AlphaTengua yea i have mental issues processing some stuff and after animation i kinda simplified my art style way too much making it harder to draw. But I always put effort into to drawing. I also get emotional problems which im slowly overcoming like anxiety, but drawingg for too long makes me feel anxious and feel very unwell. But I'm learning at least now. I also feel like people around me don't value my art at all.
wanderfulwolfie one of the things that put me down is when I need days to complete a not-so-good art and then everyone (including my own family) makes me feel worthless for it. It makes me lose any motivation I've ever had for art. Thing is, while I do like it, art is not exactly my hobby. I'll draw at the rare time when I feel like it, but other than those rare time I don't have fun drawing at all so I need that motivation if I'll ever feel like taking it seriously in the future, ever.
(By rare I mean something like once per year or so)
Though, I will never think of my art as bad (just not so good) because I know there are people who thinks mine's good enough.
Yep... Been there and family is probably THE WORST for judgment or motivation. (trust me)
I've come to figure out that when you're around the people who "poo poo" an idea or project, it's just the wrong audience. It's not the "demographic" you should target for sales, and that's as much a part of the world of art as "drawing stuff".
My area is also one of those places that art just isn't that important. If money flows and the economy isn't absolutely in the toilet, art can raise values and bring in profit. When things start to get tight, even the least bit, the ass literally falls right out of the market. You can't pay people to take stuff... So... You get creative. It's not that they suddenly quit valuing expression. It's that the particular expression you're trying to "sell" isn't what they're buying. That's a point of opinion and easily becomes one of contention.
Sure, I could "fake" styles from the Louvre. I've got books (dime a dozen recently) in stacks to show me the definitions of style, period, even the materials used around the world. (I trade antiques, so useful no matter)... BUT since no one could possibly care any less about a Rembrandt hanging in my shed (real or not), I would be better off to paint or sketch something satirical about big corporations buying up Washington D.C... A piece like that will sell...
AND (trust me) whatever concept you're working with... whatever project you're actually putting effort into, YOU are going to have to sell it. It's not even about money, but exchanging the ideas for merit. It's only a barter-in-trade for other ideas in conversation, but if it's worth my while, I'm likely to contribute a positive response (adding to or complementing your work)... If it's crap (to me) well, so much for positive. Crap is crap, and while the criterion is subjective (everyone has an opinion), that doesn't mean you should cling to my side or hang on my shoulder to fish for praise. One of us will end up selling out his or her soul in that conversation, or... well... it just gets ugly from there.
So be willing to give people a chance, but don't let them ruin you. If you're not treated as valuable, those are not the people to surround yourself with as an artist. Family... well, family also comes with luggage of history and crap. Mommy remembers wiping your ass like it just happened yesterday. Daddy thinks you should do whatever the hell it is he's been killing himself over to put food on the table. It's the same family-crap around the world. Artists march to a different tune, and they can still love their family just like any good son or daughter, but avoid them absolutely as an artist, because... they're only going to drag crap into the gallery. I don't go to Pop's job and take a big dump on his spot-welder or fork-truck. He can stay his ass out of the gallery and not take a big dump on my most loyal circle of patrons... (you know, those people who faun over the work and pay real money for more of it?)
Life is tough no matter what you choose to do with it. AND you're going to trowel through a huge mountain of crapula anyways looking for a tid-bit of worthwhile art. Several mountains of crapula, and a few hills of tid-bits of art later, you might even find something truly remarkable. That's just statistics, and it won't matter who drew it, painted it, sculpted it, or how long they've been working at "the craft". :o)
HampTC spot on
Love the handsome youtuber credit in the desc
Every video you upload ends up inspiring me to stop procrastinating and start doing more art :)
Yeah same.
Unfortunately I have some homework to do right now :((((
tbh i have no idea when i decided to start drawing seriously
Alice de Oliveira same I've sort of always done it for fun even today but I still tried my best at the same time and can draw decently now because of it. I mean I have to be doing something right if I can look back half a year and say I've definitely improved
Even that I make money at it regularly, I'm still not sure I draw "seriously" yet. :o)
Alice de Oliveira I know I started to take art seriously at... probably kindergarden to grade 1.
Well I'm not sure if I ever did. I draw to escape and create, I don't want to break my neck in a bazillion advanced art programs.
gnarth d'arkanen I think draw "seriously" means when you started trying to learn how to improve your art
Thank you. I don't draw as much but I do play music and you inspire me still.
Thank you! No problem
This actually helped me a lot more than I was expecting. I was expecting this to kinda be a meme, but it’s helped me understand more about my own improvement, and how I’m going to grow.
I have been drawing my entire life but I realized “hey I’m kinda good at art and I want to improve with it!” In 8th grade. maybe I don’t practice enough becuase I’ll se 14 or 15 year olds absolutely a god at digital, I’m a bit jealous of them but they are great artists, I just don’t know how they improved so quickly
Male anatomical humor aside, I really needed this. I have so much trouble with how long I've been drawing and how little I've improved before now. I see people who took it really seriously and learned fast, and it's hard not to feel discouraged even though I know I spent a decade too afraid of failure to learn. So I know that decade shouldn't be counted but ugh. And I learn pretty fast but I always have to take baby steps and focus on one thing at a time so I don't feel overwhelmed with all the things I need to work on. So I learn fast but I learn slow. It's just really frustrating. But you're right. What matters is that I'm trying *now*, improving *now*, and I really hope that someday I won't be as hard on myself as I am now.
I really needed this to be put into perspective, thank you. I always loved drawing since I was a child but for a long time it was an on-and-off hobby, and I certainly didn't take it more seriously in the sense of studying anatomy, color, light, shadow, etc. It was only about 3-4 years ago I started taking it a lot more seriously and really started learning fundamentals, etc, and exploring it as a potential career for myself. How long someone has drawn or how often they draw shouldn't be the question or case, because it's more important what you actually do and learn as you draw.
I was felling bad for abandoning drawing for a long time and giving up, then 1:58 kicked in, and I was "oh". I think you need to hear this stuff, cause we see people that are younger than us being better and make us feel bad. So apply yourself at your maximum and don't worry so much at the velocity of the improvement, it is coming.
Wow I never knew my ex was an artist!
She also tried to play with as many balls as possible.
Yeah! I'm 16 and i started to draw on February of 2017 ;-; And i started to take it seriously on May, more or less. I practiced a lot of english to understand Proko's channel and other free information. I draw every day, usually for hours xD I just falled in love with the art
I have played with balls my entire life :^)
That is um I don't know how to respond to this.(I know this is a joke)
Playing with as many balls as possible must not always be good. Try as much as possible, but when you find something that sticks, focus more on that. If you always try completely new things than you might basically be aimless as an artist as well. But awesome video! Really good to think about such topics
i have only been drawing for a year and i feel as though its going well...
(not trying to be narcissistic, just saying)
it certainly does especially in days when u don't feel like drawing
To be honest, I have been drawing ever since I can remember, and my desire to improve began as soon as I picked up the pencil. Of course, being very very young, I had no connection to the outside world via internet and mostly had no outside input until preschool which consisted just of compliments. I didn't know enough to be able to say, "I want to learn anatomy" or some such. Rather, the driving force for little little me was, ". . . . I don't think people look like that . . . . ." For my earliest years, it was that thought that drove me to get better and keep trying. I didn't think about what other, older people could do, I was rarely exposed to that but I knew that whatever I was doing didn't look like what I was trying to do so I needed to find a way to fix that. In fact, it wasn't a desire to be good as I did not start out with the concept of what good is, my desire was just to accurately depict the world around me.
This has not ended. Of course I know enough now to practice my anatomy and other such things. I now have a concept of what good is and the phenomenal things people can do, but the same desire to accurately depict what is around me has not ceased and I have never ever stopped. I could not dream of stopping, I don't know what that would be like.
Lmao the balls part I died
I was never uncertain that art was what i was going to do with my life, and I’ve always strived to improve. As a small child my mentality was that “i am an artist” rather than “I want to be an artist”. So, I guess I’ve been drawing my entire life, and even as a kid was able to sell my work occasionally! I was lucky enough to have parents that took my passion seriously so my natural drive to create art was nurtured and supplied with anything I needed!
I see myself in Kris, I too started taking it seriously after watching the handsome youtuber Proko
This video does a great job at summing up how I often feel as an artist who's always loved drawing but because of depression and anxiety I often took lots of breaks and don't ever draw as much as I want to. I've always gotten uncomfortable when people ask me "how long have you been drawing?" cause while I've been into drawing ever since at least 2nd grade, if you actually looked only at the time where I was actively drawing it would most likely be a year at best.
It always makes me feel like so much crap and that I'm too slow to be a real artist... thank you for this video
I’m in the same boat, you’re not alone!
Wow, I had this realization a few years ago, that I would often tell myself and friends "It sucks that I have been drawing my whole life and I'm just not good at it. I guess I have no talent." Then eventually, I had to face some hard facts about this delusion. Yes I have often drawn ever since I was very young. I drew for fun, I drew in class, and off and on sometimes very seriously, but most of the the time I have been alive I either A: haven't been drawing seriously to improve my skills, but was just goofing around or B: wasn't really drawing that often. In the past year or so, I have been making a far better effort to improve, experimenting with new styles and techniques and media, going back to learning and practicing fundamentals and I have made more progress in that time than the last 5 years before. It really doesn't matter when you start, and it just liking something doesn't make you good at it. Drawing, like anything, takes dedicated practice and rigorous study.
that bye bye at the end XD... i subscribed when you were like "it's all crap" HahaHA so real
"I don't draw, I just make doodles every now and then."
*Creates the greatest art ever*
Everyone who takes art seriously: "Literally what the fuck."
Honestly though? Thank you for posting this, I needed to hear this. I've recently made the decision to go back to college and study art. I'm almost 24, and there are times when I've felt a bit ashamed for taking this long out of high school to realize that I wanted to pursue art as a career; knowing that there are so many younger artists that have known that art was their passion and had their whole lives to hone that skill. It's good to hear someone say that it's OK if you haven't been taking drawing seriously since you were a kid, and that you still have so much potential to grow and thrive in the field, just like everyone else. Thank you for reminding me of that :')
"it's an endless ocean of balls"
I always been very hard on myself because I started actually started taking drawing seriously when i was 16, i did draw sence i was two but just for fun, but because i found art on the internet at a later time in my life, I feel like i could of wanted to take it more seriously when i was younger, so when i see young arists like 13 it makes me feel like they will be better then me in the future because they will have a longer time to learn but this video really helped me feel better about myself and my art, im going to keep practicing and drawing, age dose not matter when you started or how far you are in improving
When i say I've drawn all my life, it's because ever i didn't get one decisive moment. It was something i would do whenever i could, and, because I wanted to improve, had many episodes of trying to figure out more technique, refine my trait, my observation. I've always drawn, all the time, whenever i have a pen in my hand, and always questioned it, tried to see what else or better i could do. There has been some turning points more important than others, but all in all, it has become something engrained in me in a way that is not in some other people around me. I have a personal and thorough relationship to my drawing, even when i draw less. I know this video is meant as an encouragement for people who havent drawn their entire life and that's fair enough. But i think you're diminishing it
idrils exactly wat I was going to say!
I say that I started taking drawing "seriously" at about age thirteen, which is when I actually started keeping a sketchbook instead of working on notebook paper or copy paper and keeping it in a folder or something. But, really, I've been passionate about it since the fourth grade.
As said in Thunderbolt Fantasy: "Mastery is not ascending a mountain, it is descending into a bottomless ocean"
Anyone else thought that this was a draw my life parody? No just me... ok I’ll go
This is so true! I'm a musician, not a visual artist, but itsthe same thing. I've been playing clarinet as long as I can realistically remember, and I'm at uni studying it and learning composition, but it's never been a linear process of constant growth and constant positives. There's ups and downs and walls and random discoveries, and sometimes it doesn't carry across. I've also played sax for years and I'm absolutely amateur at that, whereas I'm singing semipro now after only about 6, 7 months of study there qnd playing guitar and bass on stage even though I've only played them on and off for a few years. Artistry is about focusing on different areas and improving yourself as you want to, discovering things, and learning constantly. There is no correct answer in terms of how it "should" be done
Next time I see a peice of crappy art, I will face the creator and say, "It's okay, but I really feel like you should play with more balls."
I remember exactly when I started taking drawing seriously.
It was in my second year of middle school, and I took inspiration from Black Butler.
A big factor in my art life is Bob Ross, as I used to watch him on TV when I was little, and then me and my Godmother would paint along. Both my Godmother and Bob Ross gave me a love of art at an early stage and it never really faded.
"How did we end up here? This place is horrible. Smells like balls."
Good twist at 02:00 - I started feeling like "Mattias I'm not so sure about this one" but you nailed it as usual. And the pencil style animation is looking great!
i mean, yeah. but if you've drawn your entire life, you clearly enjoy it. even if your skill isn't amazing, you're still better off than someone who just started last year, because while their technical skill may be better, you care about it and are more likely to continue drawing forever, improving as you go either through self-teaching and exploration or by joining a class when they get tired of their bad drawings. you're also going to have an easier time starting an art class, because you've already got some of the basic skills (though, what skills you've got will probably be random).
basically, talent is bullshit because all talent is is someone who's brain enjoys certain activities, so they do them and related ones constantly and naturally build skill without needing to be taught. someone seems like a natural debater? they probably argue a lot and like to learn. someone's a natural artist? they've probably been drawing since they could hold a pen and just needed a lesson to crystallize the loose skills they had acquired. someone's a natural author? they probably consume a lot of media, and rather than just watching it, analyze it (this also applies to people who build wikis), then they write ideas down constantly.
When I started taking drawing seriously it was when I got into middle school, I had a few friends and we were super into Shonen Jump and Naruto, so we would sit in class and draw our own characters. Eventually some stuff happened and we kinda stopped being quite as good friends, and my best friend at the time stopped drawing, but now I'm way better than I've ever been, and I've been ramping up even more than before. Shame that my friend stopped tho, he would've been way better than me if he started taking it more seriously like I did.
But i dont have any balls :(
@frog face I second that
For me I always was fascinated with art and color, I didn't realize that I had a passion for art until 4 grade. By then I got into anime so I would draw anime and manga all the time I even wanted to travel to japan to get a job at Shojo jump determined to draw something like Magic Ray-earth or Bleach. In high I started to get very dishearten having failed to get in Lagardia thinking it was because I was average at art. My third year I began to realize it wasn't my art that was the problem, but how I went about it. I realize it's not simply wanting to draw sexy manga characters but developing your style. Now in college I draw from life more often then not and I rarely draw in a manga style. This year I want to revisit my old middle school drawings and see how much my stlye has improve even by a small amount I'll be happy.
A n o c e a n o f *b a l l s*
I’m 33, just got a digital drawing device (Surface Pro), and have recently decided to dabble in drawing for fun. In fact, Mattias’ Surface reviews are how I found this channel.
But I do plan to try and evaluate different styles and techniques. The way I’ve phrased it in my mind is that I want to be able to effectively communicate visual ideas. I’m hoping to be able to make effective use of minimal strokes.
As someone who says “I started taking art seriously in high school” this video is literally why I say it, but I could never put it into words until now.
Like yeah EVERYONE who could pick up a crayon drew as a kid. Just like everyone who had a voice sang and acted (played pretend) but I’m not calling myself a singer/actor because I did it as a CHILD. I also swam but I’m not a swimmer.
YES!!!
I've been thinking about this a lot, because when I tell people I've been drawing for nine years, it often feels like an admission of failure. But I only started taking drawing seriously maybe two years ago, and I also never went to an art school or something like that. Due to depression i also lose energy (and motivation,joy, confidence etc) quickly when practicing...there's so many factors that play a role and too many people just focus on these basic statements like at what age you started... we all have different resources and different goals and circumstances. Comparing people and their progress isn't fair to anyone.
you could make a graph of the number of balls
But the growth of the number of balls accumulated would not be linear, it would be much like the population algorithm or mandelbrot set. See chaos theory and the figenbaum constant
Magic Gonads Cool stuff thanks for the reply.
Drawing with Mattias I somehow found your videos through the recommended list... There is always room for a wise & funny RUclipsr in my feed
This is just a random comment because I know comments help support you tubers.
Nada Dealer They do??
Aii iiA Maybe in terms of a more engaged audience? Although ad revenue, RUclips Premium and Patreon are what actually earn RUclipsrs money.
I'm soon turning 16 and have been drawing for 14 years of my life, but started taking art seriously about 6 years ago, because it was my way of escaping reality and my problems. So far I've made two book covers for my dad's friend and made a bit of money with it and 3 years ago I came 3rd in an art competition I had always taken part in since first grade. I had always dreamed of coming first or second or third in the competition and I finally made it! I'm proud of myself for finally hitting my childhood goals xD.
Arnold Schwarzenegger puts it really well. He talks about how when bodybuilding to get the perfect sculpted body it's just like sculpting itself. You look at yourself you do the poses and use a mirror and you see the work that you are putting in you see the results that you put in and you ask yourself, "what's missing from the sculpture?"and you learn what you need to do to make like your biceps bigger or your triceps bigger or whatever. This is a refreshing video for something that I forgot that I learned almost a decade ago. I appreciate you.
new mattias video my friday just got 10x better
thank you for your Fantastic Insight, i used to respond like this because i cant exactly remember when i started drawing seriously, but i'll probably sit down with some old sketchbooks and try to remember
No matter for how long you've been doing drawing or just any kind of skill, in most cases it really doesn't matter. You could draw for like all your life but you still haven't developed the proper skills because you spent little to no time and effort on it. What really matters is if you take it seriously, how you took that time and just how you used it to develop your skills and techniques.
I've been drawing since I was 3 but I didn't start taking it seriously since I was 11 and I stepped up my game soon afterwards after I encountered many other skilled, hardworking and talented artists. They were and still are my inspirations and competition.
Oh man, this video is so good. No one ever talks about the non-linear nature of learning. Please keep making lots of videos.
I started taking drawing seriously when I was in seventh grade, so I've been learning or trying to learn about art for the past four-ish years. Since eighth grade I've been keeping sketchbooks that I fill with around ~70 drawings every month and a half, except for summer because I get lazy in the summer and it's a bad habit;; and I plan to continue learning or trying to learn art untillllll probably until I die
this was... good for me to hear. Your points especially hit the mark considering in the past month i got back into drawing, (after not doing it for over a year). Recently, i compared my progression in drawing to an acquaintance's progression in drawing (she who hadnt taken a break while i had). There is a SIGNIFICANT rise of quality in her work.. it made me happy for her, and a bit jealous XD But i realize it's because she kept practicing this entire time while i'v been taking lots of breaks (for various reasons.) Your time spent actually doing it and practicing it makes all the difference. I don't know how long she's been drawing over all, but it shows in her work that she's improved. I've enjoyed drawing and painting since i was 4yrs old, but it doesnt exactly show in my work.. i really want to get better..
I like the grid visualization for improvement
Chaotic yet in a way structured
As someone who is somewhere between Kris and Sam who is just going to art school I want to honestly thank you. I really needed to hear this today.
When people ask how long I have been drawing/writing, I always say "ever since I was able to hold a crayon" because it's true. I get the point of this video though, and I agree completely. Your skill level does not depend on age or how long you have been drawing for, but on how dedicated you are to learn the skill and how much you practice. Me, only being 13, get this a lot, but I suppose it's just something us artists have to deal with! The whole world isn't going to change it's perspective and opinions on how an artist develops because of one video, things like this need to be ingrained into our society while we're young.
i always say, "Ive drawn my whole life, but it doesnt mean ive always been good at it or took it seriously" because apparently to my famile, ive been drawing as soon as i knew how to and kept going with it. i started taking it seriously when i started highshool and ive been drawing since as long as i can remember. but im still no good at it, just because youve been doing something for a very long time, doesnt mean its good or you know how to do it right.
I honestly just love those videos because they’re how I stopped (seriously) worrying about how good I am at drawing...
I still cannot see myself as too good, but I guess that’s okay. I just know that I need to improve whether I’m good or not.
This took me 20 years to realise what you animated here in 3 minutes :D nice one thank you
I only started drawing when I was 16 (I'm 25 now). I used to feel pretty ashamed, and thought that I was way behind because other art kids had been drawing forever it seemed. But I quickly was just drawing everyday, and kept at it, and now I feel like i can run along with them, and even better than some.
In art it really doesn't matter when you start. It matters how hard you go after it. There are people who don't start until decades after I did.
This video changed my outlook on my art. I have always just done what makes me happy but I never really grew or got better. Since wathcing this I have dedicated my time to getting more balls and it really is paying off and I see improvement.
I've been drawing since I could hold a pencil, I've wanted to be an artist for as long as I can remember, I took art seriously since elementary school, it's just something Im extremely passionate about. Now I'm 14 and I've seriously improved a lot since I started taking it so seriously. I don't think I've ever taken a break from drawing longer than a day.
I've been drawing my entire life
I started taking it seriously around twelve
Around fifteen/sixteen I got burnt out for the first time, and despite my best efforts art has been pretty on and off for me since, specifically, burnout happens when I start being dissatisfied with my work/work ethic/inability to post online.
I am now nineteen.
I like the style of the art in this video in addition to the Animal Crossing music.
Yes, this video speaks a lot to me. I was always told i am pretty good at drawing, and looking back at older draws, even though i think they are bad by my today's standard, i see in them building blocks that led me to where i am now.
Still despite it all i feel like until recently, my art skills are at level they are not because of my practicing, but "in spite of my lack practice". I used to draw a lot in my high school, and i despite not using proper references, methods and such, i noticed my drawings improving, or at least staying consistently "decent". It wasn't until around 2nd year of college after 2-3 years of drawings very little, that i started again, i was focused on horror, dark fantasy and such, and i tried again. And 2-3 years down the line from that i did start making horror art i was pleased with, despite feeling limited by my pen and paper medium.
Since then i have kind of taken a break from drawing horror, finding bit depressing in these trying times, and i tried to lighten things up for me, drawing something more anime/manga releated and generally just goofing around. I also picked digital art, using a screenless tablet, which i find very limiting and plan to upgrade.
I plan to continue, to keep learning new things, but always going back to basics from time to time, get better tools, draw and improve.
1.13 is not a random dude, he has, hands down, BEST OF THE BEST OF THE BEST human body tutorials (anatomy, proportion, gesture). If you are interested in drawing human body he is your best starting point, and i watched A LOT of different chanels, his is the most benefficial than all others combined.
Yeah, that's a very good point! I've been asked that question a lot, and my answer is typically that: my whole life. However I usually add on "but I didn't really start trying to seriously learn and improve until around 7th grade." I'm not sure why exactly I made that mental note, but I know with certainty that's the approximate time that I realized that drawing was something that I wanted to pursue as a serious hobby.
Even just that doesn't give an accurate picture though. As described during the comparison segment, it's like... Sure I started studying and applying some art basics around middle school, but I didn't have massive amounts of time to spend doing that among other things. And then during college I drew a little bit, but not nearly as much as during high school, for example. I improved a little over that time, but not much. I mean, I learned lots of other skills applicable to drawing, as I ended up studying architecture design, but not a lot of actual hobby drawing.
Now I've been out of school for about a year and decided to start seriously practicing/drawing as a hobby again, even more than I did back in middle/high school. And like I've improved more in the past few months than in the past 10 years I've been "seriously drawing". So like yeah, I agree. It's all crap xD Like it would be foolish to discount the amount of time spent completely, but it's not nearly as relevant as a lot of people seem to think.