Yaesu FT5D, Features And Comparison FT3DR & FT2DR
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
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hey yaesu......MAKE THE NEXT ONE FULL DUPLEX AND KEEP THE SUBMERSIBLE ABILITY.
I’m not sold on it. I have the FT3DR and to similar to upgrade.
Great comparison video. I finally bought the 5dr at hamvention. Just waiting on HRO to ship it to me. (They were out at the show) Great seeing you at hamvention, 73!
You know it's a good upgrade when person who owns the prior model genuinely feels like they are missing out. I do not feel that in this case. At least give me a watt or two on the 1.25 meter band.
I don't think it was supposed to be an "upgrade." The way I understood it was that the fire that destroyed a bunch of computer chips in Japan took out the chips Yaesu used for the FT-3. The FT-5 was a mild redesign using a different chip in order to continue making a similar radio and keep sales up.
@@USAFJUNKIE I agree with you, but Yaseu pitches the FT5D as "a full-featured C4FM handheld transceiver with superior operability and new sophisticated functions."
Being able to dunk a radio under water qualifies as a sophisticated new function?
@@sidaytona I think that depends on the user and their typical operating environment. I specifically bought the VX-6 for my first HT because I really enjoy hiking, camping, fishing, hunting, etc. I wanted something that wouldn't get ruined in the rain or if I dropped it in a puddle.
That and the better speaker/Rx audio quality could make the difference for some.
I think you should build an angled board with a bottom ledge, possibly with a rubbery/grippy mat, so that you can reliably set HTs and similar gear under the camera at a non-glare angle, and they sit still. Would save you a lot of fiddling, I bet.
Ah, finally they dealt with the battery problem I've had with these batteries and belt hook. The problem is that the belt clip is attached to the battery, and if you tug on the radio it pulls on the battery and disconnects the power from the radio. Also pulling on the battery weakens the retaining clips on the battery as well as frequent battery change outs also weaken the battery clips. These batteries are compatible with the VX-8 series, FT-1, 2, 3, and now FT-5 radios. Changing out batteries often is hard on the battery clips. Avoid dropping the radio, this could break off a battery clip or two, and without the clips you are using rubber bands, or women's hair ties (little black or colored bungy loop) to hold the battery to the radio, and this old quickly. You end up with batteries that hold a good charge but not the radio. Looks like a great radio. VX-8G, FT-1D, and FT-2D. 7 3 de VE7PGE
FT5dr still doesn't support USB charger. The machine will reset power when plug or unplug the DC power.
Yaesu still keep some bugs for the next generation to make more money.
The static "MEM SCAN" message display, instead of showing frequencies cycling while scanning, is completely and utterly visually unappealing and disappointing for the FT-5D, and wholly unexpected and undeserving of the current Yaesu flagship HT product. If more prospective buyers knew this before purchase, I guarantee it would affect sales- which is my mission. The underlying logic is that there would be SO MANY memories entered, there would be a lag in scanning due to the display. The FT5 has 900 memories I believe. What local area has 900 repeaters, simplex freq's and so on within HT operational range? Efficient use of the memory bank system brings the number to scan down to a far less subset. So when we really talk about scanning speed lag, is this REALLY a problem for the vast majority of hams to warrant a FORCED never-before-seen different display of memory scanning? I think NOT. THIS NEEDS FIXED NOW.
Just got mine and it was first thing I noticed. Not a deal breaker, but annoying.
It's not a deal breaker for me but I do hope they fix it. I see no rational reason that they couldn't do this, they did in the 3 and that works fine.
The 5 does scan really fast though. Not sure if faster than the 3.
That Why I Use a Real Scanner with Trunking and P25 1 and 2,
Definitely that was no ham radio repeated, it probably was either gmrs or commercial repeater, we have operators got a much higher standard for that,
I hope Yaesu make Apps for Android/IOS that we can setup/program and configure the radio easily. I dont know why all radio company dont do that.
Because all of their engineers are in their 70s.
I'm looking forward getting the FT5 when it comes to the UK.
I had the xmit lock with APRS on the FT3 once. Had to remove battery to get out of it. Didn't capture what I had done. Sold the FT3 on QRZ in less than 3 hours, FT5 is out for delivery today.
When you're referring to the Ingress Protection rating, there's no "V" in it. The phrase would just be "IP rating", and the values are two characters. The first character is for dust/particle protection, and if they didn't bother to certify it for that at all (as is the case here) that character is given as "X". The second character is for water protection, and that's what they bumped up. So, its IP rating is IPX7.
Thanks for explaining that!
YES!!!!
I was reading Josh's comments thinking, "Has he lost his mind???"
I figured the "V" was just a slip, probably Josh's brain pattern matching on IPv4 vs IPv6 networking terms :-).
there is no V in IP7 you are probably just used to saying IPV4 for Internet Protocol Version. IP in this case stands for Ingress Protection and there should be 2 digits, the first is for solids (dirt/dust/sand) the second is for liquid. IP7 should be IPx7 if they didn't test for solids. 7 means temporary immersion up to 1 meter.
THANKS
Neat HT. Thanks for reviewing Band Scope. Both models have it, but I am new to Yaesu HTs. Thanks!
My ft-3 sounds terrible. Not only is it pretty quiet but it rattles like the speaker is bused or something
its a 000 resistor under the battery rubber gasket, removing it enables broadcast on all the blocked freq. confirmed working no issues
Awesome to know! Thanks!
Ill stick with the ft3d at this rate the ft6d will be out in a year
2 years have passed, the walkie-talkie has not appeared on sale😀
Hey Josh great video you're real professional right now I really like to set up really nice studio you learned a bunch through the years
What is the female plug size? I want to run a usb cable to a solar charger when I’m in the woods
I really wanted to like this video however, for the most part the glare made it miserable to watch and lack of familiarity with the new design and changes made it confusing. I've never owned a YAESU HT which made it more confusing. Should never have even mentioned the FT3DR hence the number of complaints about the 3DR that had no help in making a decision regarding the 5DR. I've always had ICOMS but after years with the IC-91A (since 2006) and other's in prior years I wanted a change. I love the ease to add, change and delete frequencies and many other functions I will have to learn. Please continue to make videos but leave old news out of the equation and become more familiar with the "new" release. P.S., my new 5DR will be here from HRO on Tuesday. Can't wait!
I have the FT-3D for a while now, and am satisfied with it.
I will not be purchasing the
FT-5D. 73, W2CH Ray
I'm just over here with my FT1DR 🙃
Anyone else have trouble with the Prolific 2303 driver that needed for programing the FT5D? I tried on 3 diffrent Windows 10 PCs and it will not recognize the radio or the Drivers. I tried with 3 diff Prolific drivers also. No luck at all.
Works with Bluetooth headsets with microphones,
Over rated Over priced I got the FT3 not impressed with FT5 water proof ! Speaker .5 watt bigger don’t trust the belt clip sticks out too much lol
It's not capacitive touch screen? its 2021 not 90s era palm pilot?
I'm glad to have seen the video #TeamReplay but I just can't see myself wanting to upgrade to this over the FT3 that I currently have...and really enjoy. Now if only Icom can get in gear and get the ID-52 out then we might be talking about spending some money on an HT. Great video as always, 73, Kevin
Agreed
It wasn't meant to be an upgrade. It was a workaround to keep making radios after the factory/warehouse fire in Japan that destroyed a bunch of computer chips.
Just got my FT5 … is there a way to up the visibility of the charging status? I can barely see it
Just ordered mine
What SMA to BNC adapter are you using? Where did you get it? I have had trouble with them working on my Kenwood D7.
Looks like yaesu is just doubling down on more impractical form-factors and still smaller batteries.
It's the same battery, is it not?
@@ItsEverythingElse I dunno, looked it up, says it comes with a 2200mAh battery. My VX-7 came with a 1400mAh battery would run dead in 8 hours of light use, and take 14 hours to charge.
The two serious criteria Yaesu handhelds (this goes for Icom too) fail at: Form factor, and battery life.
@@highdesertdrew1844 10,5 В мало для SAD-25! Надо включать в CD-41 или в приёмник другой блок питания на 12 или 15 В. Зарядка будет быстрее.
HRO had it for 399 with the clip for BF and cyber monday. I found a great deal online for a FT-3dr in the box with vinyl case practically new. for $260.
Where did you search ? eBay ?
This is an amazing radio from Yeasu. I just wish they put a better quality touch screen on them, since the responsiveness on these cheap screens is not all that great.
Also this radio has a SD card slot that will let you load and settings and stations you pre-program.
I'm about to purchase an HT...going better yeasu and wouxan...the quad band for the RXing wider band capabilities...
Any suggestions? This radio vs the vx6 which seems a little dated to me
I'm a bit irked with Yaesu for discontinuing most of their dual-band mobiles and then come up with an unnecessary upgrade of the FT3D.
They have no more chips for the ft3. They had to change the chipset. See the interview link in my description.
@@HamRadioCrashCourse In other words, Yaesu needed to "upgrade", but offered customers get virtually the same radio at the FT3D's original price point.
They can't even squeeze another band in there? Baofeng and Alinco have triband HTs at a fraction of the cost.
Is battery life still the same?
nice ham radio but $480 its NOT good for me
TeamReplay for the win!
Wanted the FT3D but never bought it because the APRS packet issues. Does anyone know if the FT5D fixed this?
I think the frequency digits on the ft3d and ft5d are a bit large but ok also why has the little clock on the upper left gone and also the tx power indicator on the vfo a and b as on the ft2d but the display and the gps is a great improvement but i think the screen could have been a bit bigger as on the ft2d
Does it do full-duplex?
No it does not.
Since I got a ft3 sold out from under me should I get a ft 5
Today there are fancy duplexers for 5G and future 6G. Possibly inband duplex? What if we can get that in a handheld and work for VHF and UHF!
Does FT5DR shut down RX when inserted into a charging cradle?
Только этого ещё не хватало((((( проверю
I've just bought an FT3D and just can't live with the tinny thin sounding audio when compared to my FT1XD. Really spoils a decent radio. I can't see the FT5 being different in this regard.
I've heard that there's a piece of foam or one of the rubber gaskets used to help with waterproofing that once removed, allows the speaker to breathe a bit more and gives it a fuller sound.
@@USAFJUNKIE I'm guessing you void any warranty by removing that piece. In addition tothe obvious reduction in water resistance.
Use a Bluetooth device. I have some Soundbeats (like 30 bucks off Amazon) and they sych just fine with the radio.
@@tradedate водостойкость останется за счёт непромокаемого диффузора и прокладки динамика по периметру
I feel like as soon as the Baofeng came out all the manufacturers just stopped making full duplex HTs. I guess they figure everybody's got a box of 'fengs they can use for Rx, so nobody needs full duplex any more.
It's also kind of sad that Baofeng can make a decent 2m, 220, 440 triband HT for 60 bucks, with great Battery life and good audio output. Why Yeasu, Icon and Kenwoord can't do the same in one HT is just bizzaro.
Except BF sucks for RX because it has crap filtering and desenses too easily.
@@Matt61702 BF sucks? That is just a tad unfair. I have a Btech tribander, where I used a small drill bit to open up the mic pin hole and I get more audio compliments then on my FT3D. It hits and recieves the same repeaters and the battery last longer.
@@sidaytona Sucks.
GET A RUBBER DOOR STOP WEDGE. CHEAP AND YOU CAN PROP UP THE RADIOS SO YOU DONT GET PROBLEMS WITH YOUR LIGHTING
i have now a vx6, is this a good replacement for my old one?
VX-6 is a solid analog radio. I really like mine.
@@USAFJUNKIE В3?
Never bought one I wwnna get one in 2024 should I just get the 5dr
You kept calling the old one the 2 when it says on the front case FT3D.
Guess the excitement in getting the radio got to you :D
I think with your review I will still get the FT-3 .
Take a drink everytime he says nubbin
Did they improve the aprs packet decoding at all? My MFJ-1278 TNC from the 90s can decode packets better than my FT-3DR. Also, are the SD cards compatible between the 3 and the 5?
Watched another video that said the sd cards are not compatible between the two.
I’d be interested to know as well. My 3DR was pretty deaf in APRS mode compared to a D74A side by side.
@@Choppus13 Ah, thanks.
@@N4DJC yeah, I don't know why the 3DR is so def when it comes to packets. A packet could have the slightest little crackle to it, and the 3dr will have absolutely no clue what it was.
52:40 communication with submarines is now possible!
What antenna is that on the FT3DR? or is it just the cable to an antenna?
Just a cable to an outdoor antenna.
Josh, it’s the “3” lol 73 de N1AD
Can you tell me the make and model of the antenna you have on the ft-3dr and the connectors components for it I would like to put this one on my ft- 5 dr will it go on the 5 model ?? Thanks
52:40 сommunication with submarines is now possible?
What is your shack jumper coax size for 2m 70cm? I need about 12 to 15 feet from my wall to mobile and HT. Was thinking of using LMR400 or RG8U.
How's the reception compared to the FT3D? Improved?
I'd like one but my wouxun will do me for now, alot to learn before going digital anyway. The Aussie dollar is crap so it cost a fair bit more here. :(
Hello: Will it connect via bluetooth to a Droid APRS unit:
8P6RC
What i miss most on these radio's is that they don't have sidetone on the headset so you can hear yourslf talking through the mic. i use these radio's in high noice environments. every handheld radio above 100 dollar should have that. Are there ham handheld radio's who have that feature?
Oh. Interesting. Yeah I haven’t seen that in a while.
I just hope they make a replacement for the FTM-7250, I really wanted one, but now there is no entry level Fusion dual band radio. My plan was to get one in a hammo can, basically a military ammo can that houses the radio, and a battery, and a slim jim antenna, the perfect solution for portable ops, especially because the FTM-7250 has the speaker and the mic plug on the front face of the radio. I hope whatever succeeds it has those same features.
I'm fitting my FTM7250 in a fat 50 cal can! Great minds. The radio was discontinued a few days after I got mine. Look for a second hand one perhaps?
@@craigpaternoster6221 If I can find one I will for sure. Used gear is hard to come by in my area. I messaged the guy right before they were discontinued. How are you liking yours? They seem like sweet little radios to me, and perfect for our application.
@@tylerdean980 It does everything I need, and it puts out the expected power... Unlike a few other radios I've used haha. It has fusion etc but isn't compatible with a hotspot. I don't use the fusion on it anyway but that seemed strange. It's single line display, but I've put everything I want to monitor into memory and it'll scan through about 100+ memories in 3 or 4 seconds. It seems to be a marmite radio, love or hate it but it meets all my needs. And it fits in the larger 50cal box
Are you having problems with the SD card? I have seen where some are having problems inserting and ejecting the card. I cannot read or write to the card. The radio recognizes the card and creates folders on the card, but it won't read from, write to, or format a card. I've used multiple new Sandisk cards, so the problem is the radio, not the card.
I've had intermittent problems even though the icon lit sensing a card. Removal and reinsertion several times and it finally read the card. Others describe the same issue.
The FT1XD also has the lanyard hole at the top of the radio. Will the holster fit the FT1?
Likely not.
The added chat window on the left side of the screen blocks a third of your presentation space, is disruptive and accomplishes nothing positive or helpful for the viewer.
Cool. You don’t have to like the live streams. I post plenty of shorter videos with no chat.
@@HamRadioCrashCourse Where the hell did you get the idea that I don't like live streams? That is not at all what I wrote. Learn to read and start by re-reading my comment you knucklehead!
I want to get either the 3 or 5. Is the 5 worth the extra $80 or so?
If you want it to be submergible. Yes.
I went with the 5 because of the audio issue with the 3. The IPX7 is a bonus.
@@HamRadioCrashCourse I don't think the FT-3/FT-5 does split tones. None of the programming softwares (Chirp, ADMS-11, RTSystems) have a "receive CTCSS" column (called "ToneSql" in Chirp but same thing). The Yaesu manuals say nothing about it. Not sure if you have previously discussed this, if so I missed it. Not that big of a deal I guess on the receive side, right.
With you
My buddy John Doo 41:44
Would this be a good/best radio to learn APRS on? Ignoring cost.
I think so, yes.
I bet my noxgear Bluetooth device would work well for this radio
Question for the ft5d. I saw on intial power up it prompts you to input a callsign. Can you skip that and just use it to listen until you get your license? I work oil n gas and it's handy to be able to hear what's going on. I know it's overkill for just that but still
Yep. Use 00000. If you want a good general receiver look up the ICOM IC-R30
@@HamRadioCrashCourse awesome I'll check it out thanks for super quick reply!!
Make a shortwave test. Thanks
What kind of radios are these?? I’m trying to learn from scratch & my travels have lead me here. Are these walkies, CB’s, ham radios?? Please help me out.
These are HAM radios, not CB.
@@lonewolf025 Now with CB scan features.
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If the APRS RX is as bad as the FT3DR then I wouldn't even bother. The two different FT3DRs I had were all but deaf. Just returned it and got my money back. Is the APRS RX improved any?
I never had APRS RX problems. So idk how I can answer your question.
@@HamRadioCrashCourse Thanks.... I understand... I may have to give Yaesu another chance.... I'm using mt FT-70DR here for local fusion. Just have to stick with my TH-D74 for APRS.... and the 878II
I've also had the TX get stuck on during APRS operation a few times on the FT3DR. It appears sporadic and I've never been able to figure out why. Feels like a firmware bug instead of anything physical, I wish I could give Yaesu any more information so they could fix it. Makes me scared to "set it and forget it," constantly worrying my almost $500 radio's gonna burn out spontaneously without me noticing
I returned an FT3 for this reason. Yaesu replaced it and so far the replacement has never had it happen.
I've had the FT3 lockup once in APRS, others report the same with the FT5.
I like the touch screen, GPS feature, and the small form factor of the unit, so I am not knocking either of these HT's. Strictly speaking from a utility standpoint, looking at it as a tool - Why would I spend $500-$600 on a 5w Yaesu HT when I can get the same utility out of a $25 Baofeng radio?
Because a baofeng can’t do digital modes, APRS, or run two independent receivers. That is to just name a few things.
The nubbin.
What’s the antenna on Josh’s FT3 ?
It’s a signal stuff signal stick. Link in description.
Those with FT-5DRs, could you please check the following.
Received my unit yesterday and immediately noticed the following issue.
When in dual VFO mode (VFO-A on HF or 50 MHz band/VFO-B on the default frequency 433.00 MHz), all other settings system default, I get two or six brief pulses of RF noise approx. every 60 seconds.
Switching to mono VFO-A (HF band or 50 MHz) the pulses disappear, switching back to dual VFO mode as above, the RF pulses reappear.
The source of the RF pulses are not external to the radio, duplicating the receive conditions on my FT-2DR there are no RF pulses.
Tried re-setting to factory defaults and the problem is still there.
Warranty claim time. Send the thing back.
I have this issue with my FT 3DR... super frustrating. I have used a Yaesu FT70D and Baefangs UV-5Rs and Kenwood D74 never having this issue. I have a Kenwood D74 and prefer that HT to all others; however, now that Kenwood doesn't make an HT I need to baby it. I was hoping the 3DR could work but I am overwhelm with the RF pulse noise issue too. And it's only 2 months old with lite usage. I was going to reach out to Yaesu but reading this comment and others I think Yaesu's quality has gone away! I am going to stick with iCOM and Kenwood for my future needs.
@@rocklover28 I spoke with Yaesu this morning and am sending them more data. They said they would see if they could find out what's going on.
I want to know if it's just my FT-5DR or they all suffer from this issue.
@@N4DJC Sure, will let you know what they find out.
@@N4DJC Update:
Source is likely some digital RF noise that's external to the radio.
Walking about half a block or so away from where I live the RF noise disappears.
Still can't explain why my FT-2DR doesn't pick it up under identical receive conditions or why it disappears on my unit when switching to single VFO-A mode but there we are, another source of RF noise to add to the evergrowing list.
I like the FT-5DR a lot, audio and sensitivity on HF is much improved over the FT-3DR.
Where did you get a 27th brigade patch?
A viewer sent it to me, along with a signal corps coin.
@@HamRadioCrashCourse I was part of the 27th brigade for 20 years. Very cool to see that in your video!
That's also one of my combat patches. (1 of 7)
@@HamRadioCrashCourse if a signal person sent it to you they belonged to the 104 signal corps. I was their liason in Texas when they MOBed around 2013.
My radio stop working
Can send to me
Memory Scan is really bad.
Lupillo####
I wonder how the Anytone code plug works with these?
How could it? Anytone is DMR, and this is System Fusion.
@@tylerdean980 k thanks. Been doing other hobbies last couple months. Was not even aware of the new radio till this vid.
@@SteelWolf13 Me neither, apparently that factory that burned down is what caused Yaesu to make this new radio, not that they planned an upgrade. It really sucks because most of Yaesu's mobiles have been discontinued because of this too. I really wanted an FTM-7250.
Those guys are violating part 97 with their cursing on the air. They'll get their license revoked over it, and frankly, they should. I wish you'd put their call signs in the video.
I would have e if they ever use them.
Sounds like a UV5R - Poor quality sound
Join the Greyman network.
IPv4, IPv6, lol. Your profession is showing. That's not the code you mean.
The ft5dx is IPv7
@@HamRadioCrashCourse I didn't mean to be a pedant or anything. I see how what I said can be read as very rude. Sorry. I was thinking you just misspoke because at least my world is full of IPv4 and IPv6 so I could have easily done that.
Tony Yarusso corrected you much better, with context, and in retrospect I should have commented something much more like that.
@@thomashabetsse Worth noting that I also work in IT, so the eye-twitching at this was well-shared. :)
What is the female plug size? I want to run a usb cable to a solar charger when I’m in the woods
Memory Scan is really bad.
Memory Scan is really bad.
Memory Scan is really bad.
Memory Scan is really bad.