The Macintosh LC
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- Опубликовано: 18 фев 2017
- One of Apple's biggest hits was this affordable color Macintosh. This video shows the origins, release, and technical details of the first LC Mac. The video then comes to a rather catastrophic end.
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That little girl is watching this right now.... cringing..... and praying her kids never find it.
These videos are truly comedy gold
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Thank you!!
That ending 😂 The LCIII was my first home computer. I dread to think how many hours I spent on that thing. Popping the tabs on the back to lift the cover and look inside was always cool.
I have an old LC here with the full 10 M.Bytes of RAM and Ethernet card running OS 7.1.
It sits idle in the corner of my room as a nostalgia piece, as memories of sitting in the university computer room a 4 AM banging away on a keyboard of an LC / LC II / LC III / LC 475 or Quadra 660 as a mature micro electronics and computing undergraduate in the mid 1990's (I was in my early 30's back then).
Needless to say as engineers we had to be familiar with using Macintosh, PC and Sun so our work bounced around using all of them. PC for ECAD and circuit emulation, Mac for written work and Sun for FPGA building.
This resulted in also having Mac and PC at home for work.
I've had the LC, LC 475 and Quadra 660. I tend to horde old computers and still have my ZX80, ZX81 and Spectrums. When the power supply fell over on the LC I used the one out of my dead LC 475.
Compared to the 1989 Compaq Deskpro 386s (80387 maths coprocessor, RLL HD, 4 M.Bytes of RAM modules) that it also sat next to at the time at home, the PC was more useful to an engineer for practical work than the LC, despite the latter having more memory. In the UK software support for the Mac LC was poor, not just games but engineering packages and compilers.
Old PCs can also be retasked and adapted, something the LC cannot do.
Very interesting! Great to hear some first hand experience from back in the day. Thanks for sharing that.
660AV? Those things were amazing. I think the non-AV version was called the 650? My university library had a bunch of Centris 650's which I loved.
Man, your videos are a.maazing. Please keep on making more of these kind of videos. Your style, sense of humor, and knowledge of each product's history makes these videos so great to watch!! This didn't even feel like 20 minutes; it felt like a 5 minute video! Seriously, great work. Big fan.
Thanks for the feedback! It's good to know people didn't get bored with the technical details.
6 years later wanted to comment the same thing, wow!
This video takes me back to my Aunt giving me her complete LC setup in 1995 after she bought a newer model. Used it almost daily through 2000.
Back in school we had Apple II and IIGS and then once those were retired our computer lab in school was upgraded to the Macintosh LC475
These are hands down some of the best historical review style videos i've seen on RUclips, and that's pretty much all I watch on here. Eagerly awaiting the next video! These are more watchable than those made by some RUclipsrs with half a million subscribers! Keep it up!
Really appreciate the feedback. Although I like making these videos, it really makes it worthwhile to hear that people are enjoying them. I'm already working on the next one. Thanks!
My parents got me one of these brand new when I was in 1st grade, along with a HP DeskWriter C. Crazy to think how much that cost when adjusted for inflation.
So many hours spent playing around with Kid Pix, Number Maze (black and white, no color!), Midnight Rescue!, and New Math Blaster Plus! We eventually upgraded to a Performa 6115CD after a few years, and the CD-ROM and AOL era began!
Great memories!
Very interesting to hear your personal experience with the LC and 6115CD. Thanks for sharing that!
@@65scribe typing that out made me feel super old, but I’m so glad that I came of age during this era of computing. Every year of technological advancement during this period seemed like an amazing leap forward into the future!
@@bp2k7 Don’t feel old - I was 22 when the LC was released! But I agree… it was an amazing time to experience.
I bought an Apple LC in 2001 for a few bucks at a thrift store. Set it up and put it on my home network for a couple years. It was a fun toy I used mostly for old games and photo editing.
Thanks for sharing that. Amazing what you can get out of these old computers second-hand.
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I had a LC2 for a while the last few years, and just for fun I used a solder sucker on that empty spot next to the cpu, dropped in a socket and an appropriate math co-processor and it works without wasting time with the PDS slot
I watch your stuff on loop sometimes. It's like hedonistic timeless nostalgia. Your comedy chops are perfect and the catchphrase "Damn" gets a smile every-time. Can't thank you enough for doing these. Really, this means a lot tot he community.
I appreciate you saying that. That’s great to hear that the videos have such a positive effect. It really is a fun community to be part of, so I’m glad I can contribute in a way that reflects that.
"Don't copy that Floppy!"
High quality editainment content that I subscibed for.
Keep them commin, good sir.
Fantastic video. Consider changing your channel name, your videos are amazing, and you deserve better branding.
Thanks for your support and advice! My 13 year old son agrees and says I should call it, "My Son has More Subscribers than Me", but I don't think that's any better. Definitely am considering the name change, though.
what the hell do you know? might be very relevant for them ...
I didn't know you liked old Macs!
damn, never thought I'd see you here c-milk.
Aren’t you Missing back the time when apple computers assembly in the USA? unlike now everything are made in the country that you spread most hate speech of, China!
I like how Apple purportedly tries to make their products environmentally friendly while also deliberately forcing their customers to buy new products sooner than should have to based on the actual hardware performance and capabilities of the products.
Lol. Excellent point!
Didn't you get the memo? 12:54 "and hayily recyckleablea ull dat buetiful aluminuimum und glasssssssssss"
Force? I guess I didn’t get the memo, my main home computer is a 2012 MBP. It is getting long in the tooth but 8 years is an exceptional run. My CAD workstation is newer but still no spring chicken...
Mac hardware build quality and OS stability make it possible to run a Mac for a couple decades. The thing preventing that is Apple stops supporting it with software updates. Alternative browser Tenfourfox will let you watch RUclips and surf other current websites with a G4 but a MacPro running Snow Leopard is almost totally unusable on Safari. Forced obsolescence. The result is people throwing out their older computers and buying new ones. Better for Apple but not the environment.
@@65scribe In my experience, even a top model G5 can't play RUclips very well these days, and G4s are hopeless. But to be fair, those systems are now 15+ years old, and a PC of similar vintage would likewise struggle even with compatible software. That includes the unofficial Intel build of TenFourFox on a 2006 Intel Mac, of course.
I was waiting for that "welcome to the end of the computer age" and you did not disappoint lmao
That "Don't Copy That Floppy!" was the most 90's thing I've ever seen.
Holy crap, just found this channel. Loving this vid. :) The selection of clips is just great.
I'm glad you found the channel. Thanks for the comment!
I'm happy I found your channel. These old mac video's are awesome to watch!
Thanks! Glad you found the channel, too!
The LC was the first Mac that I ever used. I used it as a postdoctoral fellow starting in 1991. The model that I had was upgraded with 4 MB of RAM. I really enjoyed using it as part of my research. It led to me purchasing a Mac for home use.
Thanks for sharing that, Richard. I like reading those personal experiences.
The LC was the first computer I bought myself. Some fond memories. . .thanks.
No problem. I'm glad the video brought back some good memories.
My elementary school had a ton of these. If you were real lucky you got one of the few LC III's which could run a newer version of Kids Typing.
Great recall! Thanks for sharing that.
Wow what a trip down memory lane, thanks for making this! Elsie was my very first computer.
You're welcome. I'm happy to hear you enjoyed the look back, Joel!
I was on the fence about this video but started cracking up when you spoke to Brianna, thanks for the laughs! Keep up the great work! Ok, about died when getting to the "don't copy that floppy" section and am now wondering why you have so few subscribers... You deserve more, many many more. *clicks subscribe*
Thanks for the detailed review! Glad the video won you over.
I love the humor!! This is a gold of a find of a video!! Thank you for making this!
You're welcome, Brian. I'm glad to hear you enjoyed watching it.
This was my first Mac. I remember lusting after the Mac II but seeing the crazy price list, I was discouraged. The LC was a great package at the time. I upgraded the RAM, hard drive, VRAM, and added a video spigot video digitizer card.
That's interesting, John! A classic example of a Mac user squeezing every bit of capability out of the Mac.
Snow Leopard, to me, is like the iPhone 4. The classic that was my first Apple product and I feel set the bar for all others to follow. Snow Leopard was beautiful to look at, advanced, ran very well, and just was 'nice'. The 'eye candy' of OS X SL, coming from Windows, was just glorious. It will always be my favorite.
Right now I am watching this video (in Firefox) on my battered but very stable 13''MacBook Pro still running SnowLeo.
I have tried newer OS's but I hate their Finder window handling. However, eventually I'll have to move on, not least because I plan to buy the next version of the MacBook Pro when it comes out, and I'm also preparing a 1 TB SSD with three OS's for the MBP 2010; SnowLeo, Mavericks, and High Sierra. Tripple boot from one disc. Yay!
I switched to Mac just before Snow Leopard was released, so I experienced Leopard for the first few months.
And yeah, I think Snow Leopard was better.
Nice video. Keep it up. Looking forward to what you have planned next.
Always come back to watch this video. Love the editing and jokes.
Thanks for coming back, Marcio! Good to hear the video has replay value.
These videos are really interesting. Keep it up !
This video was uploaded in 2017, but it looks as if it was made in 2009 with movie maker lol.
Or 2020
You deserve a heck of a lot more subs. You make fantastic videos.
Thanks!!! I'm playing to a fairly small community, so I'm glad to get as much interest as I do.
There used to be a user group in Cincinnati back then called "The Applesiders" before you could go to a Apple store. So if you had a question you had to go to them. People used to write programs for these early macs. It was a fervent user base. A small community but very loyal.
Thoroughly enjoyable information. And your inclusion of Orson Welles added fun amusement!
Thanks, Alexander! And again, good ear.
Your videos are so underrated man. You have a unique brand of humor and these videos are so entertaining.
Thanks for that! Especially good to hear "unique", instead of, "Is this a second channel of [insert popular tech youtuber here] ?"
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@@65scribe Seriously, it's refreshing to see. Love the style, love the running jokes, and your take on these old systems. One of the few things that has gotten an honest chuckle from me in awhile. Thanks for doing what you do, man!
Shareware on System 7... so many memories. Often they worked, often they froze the Mac. I feel like setting up my old PowerMac and dig up my old CD´s and floppies with share and freeware, just for old times sake.
Glad I could inspire a little nostalgia.
Great video! That ending was amazing!
Thanks very much! This was the first time, but not the last, that I brought “AI” into my videos.
make a video on the Mac Color Classic! actually... just make another video! i'm dyin over here
I'm glad you're enjoying the videos. I like making the videos, just it doesn't pay the bills, so I work on them when I can. I do have one in the works, but not the Color Classic (yet).
Very well done and well narrated docu! Bravo!
Thanks very much for the feedback!
They had 'em at my school and I loved them 💖
dude keep uploading vids, your content is awesome!
I will. :) Thanks very much!
The LC was my first Mac ever. I have lots of fun memories of when I had it. It was slow as hell, even for its time. It's a very rare case of a computer that was already too slow at the time of its launch.
That’s interesting to read some first-hand experience. Thanks!
This is wonderful. I am so glad you included the don't copy that floppy references!
Thanks Ben!
"Low Cost" yet still nearly $2,500.
Apple never changes.
>.<
pro tip: people don't reply because this is too stupid to reply to.
Let me add my two cents then @aeonjoey
An amiga 2000 or fair PC Compatible would have cost you 1k less for comparable performance, more software, more colors and almost the same functionality.
Almost because apple was ahead when it came to graphics and printing (or so I have heard as I wasn't alive back then). Still that's a lot of money for a typewriter/printing press, just as an ibook today is a lot of money for a "facebook & youtube machine"
Though, to be fair, if I was there back then, I'd have bought an amiga 3000 or 4000. When you see that some people still use them today, that says a lot.
What would have been your 90's computer people?
@@NazmiFR Early 90's? I had an IBM PS/1 with a 386, and mid 90's an IBM Aptiva with a Pentium 1 because my father was a mechanical engineer and occasionally did work from home. To be fair the Aptiva did run him $3300 which is more expensive than the Mac LC was when it launched, however it also wasn't a Low Cost reworking it was far closer to the top end at the time
Back then people liked to crap on DOS/Win 95 machines as being boring and for spreadsheets, but I dunno, Doom and Twinsen's Adventure kicked ass and that was all I really cared about.
I definitely think the Amiga would have been the preferable machine in the late 80's, but from around 93 onward the PC compatible just started killing it so I'm glad I had what I had. On the Apple side of things I really do not see the appeal of any of their products between the Apple II and the Mac G3 series. The entire Apple II line is super modification friendly and it hit at just the right time initially even if I personally think the C64 is an overall better experience to try and use personally (though 80's micros aren't my forte in general), but everything after that just seemed really expensive and tremendously under powered, and, to be frank, despite what people say the OS was horrendous for years. I still don't like OSX but it's stable and secure, and I can definitely see the appeal, but they had a complete trainwreck on their hands for years there.
@@NazmiFR Not from what I remember. This is was 1990. Sure you can go to a computer shopper magazine and order a barebones 8086 cpu and build something around $1000 from a 1978 CPU (still HEAVILY IN USE) that was 12 years old and green monochrome screen or maybe a 4 color CGA card or a 286 if you were lucky. To get a 60830 cpu performance you would need at least a 386 and a VGA card to match this and a nice monitor you would be looking at $3500 easily. Maybe $3000. I am not Apple fanboy but having cheap electronics today spoils the best of us :-)
I had a 16 bit Amiga with 4096 colours and 16 bit four channel stereo sound that cost £400.
This was in my kindergarten class 3 years later in 95. It made me a mac fan for my life.
This is the best video I have ever watched on youtube
Thanks very much! I’m glad to hear that you liked it THAT much. “Stay tuned” for more.
so much nostalgia from this Mac
The LC III was my first computer. Fond memories.
The capacitors in the LC power supply are all oddly sized and have some weird capacitance values, I had to special order most of them from Mouser.
rwdplz1 Good information! Thanks!
If you're not over 60, you were in school before Oregon Trail was released. I was playing it at school before 1980... the first edition was 1971 for a mainframe, went public in 1975 on an educational time-share mainframe, and was 1978 release by MECC for the Apple II line.
Good info William, thanks for that! I was in Grade 6 in 1980, so in theory, you're right. When I was in public school, they had one computer, a Commodore PET. I was in high school by the time they were outfitted with a dozen Apple IIe's in the library. Oregon Trail might have been less prevalent in Canada as well. Regardless, I missed out on the nostalgia in later years.
My Parents bought one of these when I was a kid, I used to spend hours in Claris works making geometric spaceships.
Great memory. Thanks for sharing!
I loved making drawings in ClarisWorks. I still have some today…
in 1993, Macintosh LC with the monitor and printer was around $1000 at Montgomery Ward. I even remember the mailed advertisement and my dad wanting to get me it as a graduation present.
'Montgomery Ward'.. that's going back, but $1000 sounds about right for an LC with monitor in 1993. Thanks for sharing that memory!
I had a LCII and I loved it.
Really interesting and well made.
I just happened to click on this video and I love your style.
Hey! Your videos are great - I laughed more watching this video than Tom Segura's new Netflix comedy special! Keep it up! Chris (Chi-Chi's Scandinavia regional manager)
Wow! That's good to hear, thanks! Finally, someone who would appreciate a Chi-Chi's reference. :)
Ah, the Mac that was designed by people who moonlighted delivering pizza.
Nice group of videos
I have to confess i was a C64 then Amiga then Dos person at the time
A big rivalry between the C64 and Apple 2
then Amiga and Macintosh / 2GS
At work we had dumb terminals, but later on about 4 x 286 NEC's ( yeah that was 4pc's to about 60 people )
I later moved to another section and found Mac SE and SE30 that wrote on IBM PC floppy, that section had 1 mac per 4 or 5 people, a table set of 4/5/6 had a spare unoccupied desk with a Macintosh for Word / Excel all set up on apple talk and all connected to printers - Very high tech for say 1990
At home my first apple products was in @ 1997-1998 the kids were in school and primary school mad the first colour Imacs, so i caved in and bough a older MacII ( dont laugh Ebay or trading post $25 AU ) about 3 months later i bought a 5year old All in one LC 520 ( Ebay @ 40 AU ) i think it had a external zip drive as well.
Both machines were in excellent condition, the MACIi came with original paperwork and books and disks , the owner paid almost $4,000 AU for the set up he was a engineer or architect, his family sold it off. The LC520 was a ex lease computer bought by a family, kept for a few years then sold to buy another replacement.
I had both macs for about 3 to 4 years, they ended up in the spare room then the "shoe cupboard" - i was nagged to take them to the tip and dispose them even though they were 100% fine and both monitors were crystal sharp , this was the new era of Y2k and 1 x Pentium 4 Win XP machine and a 56k dial up modem should be plenty for 5 people
Also same time, my personal cupboard was raided and 2 x C64 and 2 x Amiga 512 and all the floppies were given to charity lady - i know it is a good cause, but i was very Pi@#%$@#% that my wife done it, even worse when i found out they were sold at $10 each , i would have rather given them $50 Happy Wife Happy Life apparently i am told
Oh,
Erin at about 5:10 looks like a cindy brady clone
Regards
George
Thanks for sharing your recollections, George! Interesting reading that. Sad story, but I hope you retained something. Oh, and Erin... Lol!
Still using 10.6.8 Snow Leopard here ^.^ I love the glossy look with the computer-centric vibes (as opposed to everything being about the damn phone)
I've got iTunes 8 and Adobe CS5 running on it and aside from browser issues here and there I have no complaints using it as my daily driver!
That's good to hear, Nikki. I completely agree.
I love the design of this computer :)
The LCII was my first computer!
I love your videos! Please do more
Thank you! I am working on it :)
I remember buying a processor upgrade for my PC. It claimed something about a higher MHz internal processing and same MHz external processing. I can only assume bus speed was the reason for the latter rating. It's been so long, I was like 11 or 12 years old. I was also programming in HyperCard at that age.
Yes, I think you're right about the bus speed. Also, Hypercard was an influence for the world wide web, so you couldn't do much better than that for introductory programming.
@@65scribe by pc I meant Mac lc
HyperCard was amazing! I wish I could have had a Mac back when that was in active use. They should have kept it going longer.
Honestly out of all the models, the LCIII is my favorite. Mainly cause it is the first classic Mac I ever owned.
The Macintosh LC Is one of my favorite vintage apple products.
I wish i had a collection of vintage apple computers...
but i will have one probably by 2018.
@@oldapplegeek7944 Do I know you from somewhere?
I have a Macintosh LC III and a Performa 405, the LC III works fine, i already replaced capacitors and cleaned the logic board, has 36 mb ram, SCSI2SD (i installed that in there since there was no HDD in it), and System 7.5.5 installed on it. the Performa 405 unlike the LC III is unfortunately beyond repair after the PRAM battery has leaked all over the board. and it's one of those red Maxell batteries that was in it. I just use it for a parts machine. I eventually got a Mac LC II to replace the Performa 405 and also recapped and cleaned the logic board, the simms from the performa board surprisingly worked fine, it's 4 mb (2x 2mb 30 pin simms) (shows as 8 mb cause of the onboard 4 mb ram).
Interesting! That's a great restoration story.
I remember when our school got these then kept getting a bunch of LCIII and LC475!
Manchine has a very nice case and monitor design.
I’ve got a couple LC’s under my bed from a vintage Macintosh buying spree years ago. They all need to be recapped. I have an LCIII+ that was recapped and loaded with 36 megs RAM, 160MB HD, and ethernet card. Sadly it was fried during a power outage, along with the matching monitor. I’ve been on the lookout for a Quadra 605. Back in 6th, 7th, and 8th grades (93-95) I was the computer teachers helper and helped unbox and set up 2 labs worth of brand new LCII/IIIs and LC 520s. Appletalked them all together, with a file server and shared printer. I had Finder access while all the other kids had to use At Ease 😄 Needless to say these pizza box Macs are close to my heart, being the first computers I really learned inside and out.
Great story from LC history. Thanks for sharing that. Too bad about your LCIII+. I don't think those had the '+' on the front , did they? Just LCIII?
65scribe just said LC III on the front. they were just speed bumped from 25MHz to 33MHz. you can do it to a regular LCIII by moving a resistor, but i can’t remember which offhand. loving your channel btw! my current working vintage mac is a 7500/100 with a 350MHz sonnet G3 upgrade card. also has video input on it too. i had it networked with appletalk to my LCIII before it bit the dust. i’m actually hoping it’s just a bad power supply on the LC. i need to do some more investigating. keep it up!
My first Mac right there.
Around 1991 the middle school I wound up in had a bunch of Mac Classics or something very close. And I never heard of Oregon Trail. They all ran Wagon Train 1848 which makes me wonder if one was a bootleg or spinoff or rebranding of the other, and oh look the Macintosh Garden page has my answer:
"Actually "Wagon Train 1848" was the first version of Oregon Trail of
Apple's Macintosh computers. It was released at the same time as the Mac
version of the Oregon Trail, but it was only available to schools.
I was one of the Mac Developers on Wagon Train 1848/Oregon Trail. They shipped in 1990/1991.
They were identical except for the fact that Wagon Train 1848 was
designed to be networked with multiple computers and perfect for a
school setting."
So that's why it looked exactly the same as Oregon Trail in your video (except we never saw color). Years later, friends (who'd gone to different schools, of course) would talk about Oregon Trail so I just imagined it was probably a lot like Wagon Train which nobody knew about. Right. Okay. It's funny how I never felt like just searching for it.
That's funny, Rob. I didn't know about about the alternate titling either. Thanks for sharing that story.
That ending was golden.
Very stylish m68k colour Mac!
That is a very sharp looking machine. The form factor is excellent imho.
Everyone ran towards the few color computers in the computer lab when it was opened. Everyone else got the black-and-white computers. This was in the early 1990s in Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada.
When that guy started dancing, and rapping, I just about lost it all. 😀😅🤣
I had an LC ii back in 92 or 93.. my first computer.. also bought a modem and a CDROM.. CD Rom cost my dad over 1000 bux lol
I agree. At least he didn't buy into laserdisc.
@@65scribe my dad had a lasetdisk player lol. for the time it was bad assery++ he bought one at an expo show
Very intelligent! Great work!!
Thank you!
Thank you so much for this video, but I have a question: Are both the computer and your electrical circuit really have fallen out of order or it has been a wanted effect ?
i have one from a trade a few months ago did come system 7.0.1 and upgrade from 4mb to 10mb. the previous owner did recap the board. but did have issues with psu leaking caps and could only power up if i applied heat from hair dryer to the caps.and today i did wash the psu to remove most of leaked and now powers up well but i did buy new caps (3x10v 1000mf, 3x270mf 35v and 1x47mf 25v but no 56mf)
Thanks. This is a great review
Thanks for commenting! Good to hear that yourself and others liked the video.
Oh man that ending is like my worst nightmare! 😲
I'm still a complete laggard, I'm watching this with an early 2006 iMac running, you guessed it Mr. Craig Federighi, Snow Leopard! ;-)
Snow Leopard was so stable!
I remember playing the Oregon trail in 1980 something on an Apple II and a green monochrome screen.
Let's crowdfund a full-length horror film featuring DP
8:04 The LC video could work at 640×480 too, if you wanted to connect it to a suitable monitor. It just dropped back to a lower colour pixel depth.
Very nice video!
The venerable "pizza box" form factor of the LC series, great!
To me, Macintosh is 2 things: 1) Avid Media Composer. 2) Digidesign ProTools. That's it. For the rest, there's Atari ST.
This video is so entertaining!
Thank you, sir!
Spindler was a disaster!!! That presentation was awful and cringy. The LC was really a rip off indeed. $2,499 for a handicapped Mac II in 1990 (that's $4,897 in today's money!!!)
Agreed, it took Gil Amelio and then Steve Jobs about 10 years to recover from Spindler's mis-management of Apple Computer.
It was a bit more capable than a Mac II: beyond-8-bit graphics, 32-bit clean ROM, built-in audio in.
Yeah, I had one at home. And a Mac II at work. So I knew the difference.
Apple anything is ridiculously expensive. I bet their profit margin is like 1000% or more.
I'm waiting for a Mac version of the pistorm to bring my LC III back to life.
That brought up memories...
Had one of these and compared to my Amiga 1200 with 32megs, the 68040@50MHz and 600MB HDD it was just shit...
And that pile of junk was anything but cheap compared to my 1200 including all the addons.
The Macintosh LC was a very slow machine. Apple deliberately crippled the LC by making the data bus 16 bits wide when it had a 32 bit processor. Amiga should have crushed Apple but Commodore's Marketing Dept. and Management were inept. Once Commodore lost Jack Tramiel, they were doomed. If Steve Jobs wouldn't have returned to Apple, they'd be a footnote in computing history today.
@ungratefulmetalpansy Yeah, look at the Amiga 600. Yet another 68000? Even the 2000?! Commodore had all it's eggs in the CD-32, which was too little far too late, the whole AGA "advantage" was long gone, especially compared to the PS1. And that idiotic XOR patent shakedown shook them out of business as they couldn't afford the patent troll.
Man I love your videos!! Where and how do you find all this old footage? I would like to just sit down and watch some of it for hours if you don’t care to share
Thank you! For the one in this video, search “apple user group connection for November 1990” in the internet archive. There is also a new RUclips channel called 'Apple VHS Archive' with a lot of these old keynotes preserved.
When I was a kid, we did not have Oregon Trail, but we had LogoWriter (on apple 2), and then in sixth grade, HyperCard on Mac Pluses. A very funny video btw. :-)
Thank you! That’s a great call back to early computers in education. My only exposure was a commodore PET in Grade 8 and we thought it was great.
Absolutely love your videos! Any chance of making a video about PowerBooks or Performas?
PS: LC II was my first computer
Thank you Michal! I'd like to review a Performa 6400 if I ever find one but I've been finding Powerbooks here and there which might amount to a video at some point. Thanks for the suggestions. And sorry for the 'dud' description of the LC II.
@@65scribe Absolutely no hard feelings. It was a total dud, but back then I was 12 and it was my first Macintosh - I loved it with all my heart.
The history for this computer is interesting!
Thanks for the feedback, Timmy!
@@65scribe Im gonna have to look for one of these now
Thanks for a great video! It's amazing to see all those old Apple press presentations. Where did you find the clip of Jobs leaving a bus at 0:57? I'd love to see more of that.
That video can be found on RUclips if you search for "Steve Jobs brainstorms with the Next team". A very interesting video if you are a Steve Jobs follower!
…. Except the part where Steve gets off the bus, and only that part, has been removed from the video!
I miss system 7.5.x. I have a Macintosh IIfx that a friend gave me a decade or so ago. Seeing this makes me want to fire it up so I can remark at how it’s “wicked fast!”
4:55 Those kids... Let's say they were 10 years old when that was recorded. That would mean they are in their 40's now, probably with their own family and some of them MIGHT even be grandparents (unlikely but possible, I guess...).