The Power Macintosh 4400

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  • Опубликовано: 20 окт 2018
  • By 1996, the Mac Clones were not expanding the MacOS markeshare, but forcing Apple to compete for their own user base. Apple's reaction was to release the 4400, made from the same industry standard parts. Twenty years later, I uncover one of these forgotten relics from the dark recesses of a dilapidated shed and play Marathon 2 on it!
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  • @ferrreira
    @ferrreira 3 года назад +96

    The 19 dislikes on this video are 19 fake profiles run by Michael Spindler

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  3 года назад +18

      Now it all makes sense! Hahaha, that’s great.

    • @ferrreira
      @ferrreira 3 года назад +4

      @@65scribe keep up with the great videos! You inspired me to start my own collection and RUclips channel (premiere will be soon), I really like your sense of humor.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  3 года назад +3

      That’s great to hear. I hope you are having fun with it and I look forward to seeing your Mac videos. You have a good sense of humour, too.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  2 года назад +2

      Too bad for Spindler!

    • @NeverMindMan
      @NeverMindMan Год назад +1

      Not to defend him as a business man, but Michael Spindler died in like 2017. Still a funny joke though!

  • @dj68k
    @dj68k 4 года назад +15

    I was the service manager/technician at an Apple Specialist in the northern Chicago area for a long time. We sold exactly two of these computers. One of them came in for service every couple of months because of "sound distortion." The speaker was garbage and would distort at loud volumes. Apple didn't have a separate part for the speaker; to replace the speaker, I had to order an entire lower housing assembly/metal chassis and transplant every part into that chassis. Ridiculous. After several case replacements, I used a couple of the adhesive "shims" Apple gave us to stop PowerBook 5300 RAM from popping out of the socket (install it on the back of the keyboard above the RAM connector) and "buffered" the speaker assembly from the metal case. I tested the unit "OK" and the customer never came back for another speaker repair.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  4 года назад +6

      That's fascinating stuff! Great that you remember it so clearly. It was hard to dig up information on this one, and, until now, not much more info offered up from the viewers. Thanks for sharing the 'Apple Service' experience on the machine.

  • @danieldougan269
    @danieldougan269 5 лет назад +67

    Ha! They criticized a 1024 x 768 monitor for having too much resolution on a 15" screen. Tell that to my 1920 x 1080 5.5" phone!

    • @jannevaatainen
      @jannevaatainen 4 года назад +13

      There was no scaling back then, so icons and the UI in general looked tiny on that kind of an ultra high ppi monitor. ;)

    • @McOuroborosBurger
      @McOuroborosBurger 4 года назад +8

      Scaling was not what it is now.

    • @richardsequeirateixeira
      @richardsequeirateixeira 4 года назад

      @@McOuroborosBurger We still have scaling issues

    • @McOuroborosBurger
      @McOuroborosBurger 4 года назад

      Richard Sequeira we do definitely, but theyre usually on older apps, or shitty newer apps.

    • @richardsequeirateixeira
      @richardsequeirateixeira 4 года назад

      @@McOuroborosBurger no, even some parts of the operating system.

  • @askhowiknow5527
    @askhowiknow5527 5 лет назад +62

    Sure, I’ll die alone, but at least 65scribe released another video

    • @pwnt39
      @pwnt39 4 года назад +4

      did you die alone yet?

  • @cunt4003
    @cunt4003 5 лет назад +18

    Hearing that Marathon theme really brought back some nice childhood memories.

    • @iiiiiifggffggffgfgfg
      @iiiiiifggffggffgfgfg 3 года назад +1

      Its freeware now.

    • @ericwood3709
      @ericwood3709 3 месяца назад +2

      I like how he manages to work Marathon into every video. I love and respect the first game in particular for its dark atmosphere and the genius writing with that mad A.I. using the player against the invading aliens and turning the aliens against each other. It's such an engaging setting and story line with such a memorable villain, if Durandal could even be so described. He's your all-powerful frienemy and puppet master, and the whole thing is cerebral while also making you gun down hordes of baddies. It's a game that honestly deserves a faithful remake in a modern 3D engine with corresponding enhancements across the board.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  3 месяца назад +2

      @ericwood3709 Thank you!
      And I don’t think I’ve read a better summary of Marathon. Well done!

  • @WildkatPhoto
    @WildkatPhoto 5 лет назад +12

    those were both dark and wonderful times. I am the proud owner of a 7600 with a G3 upgrade.

  • @AnthonyGuidetti
    @AnthonyGuidetti 5 лет назад +48

    I recognize these videos take a long time to create, but I just wanted to tell you I love these series of videos, and hope you continue to make more in the future!

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  5 лет назад +5

      Thank you! That’s encouraging to hear. And I appreciate your patience. I do have another video about 80% done, so I can confirm there is more content on the way.

  • @runforit420
    @runforit420 5 лет назад +43

    It's nice to see someone else also praising Gil Amelio for the work that he did.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  5 лет назад +20

      I agree. When you go back and read actual accounts about that time, he did pretty good under the circumstances.

    • @tenminutetokyo2643
      @tenminutetokyo2643 5 лет назад

      runforit420 CHRP was a disaster and almost killed Apple.

    • @RoastBeefSandwich
      @RoastBeefSandwich 4 года назад +9

      You should read his book, it's very good. Long out of print but readily available used. "On the Firing Line: My 500 Days at Apple"

    • @jellepetje
      @jellepetje 4 года назад +2

      vintageapple.org/apple_jobs/pdf/On_the_Firing_Line_My_500_Days_at_Apple_1998.pdf

    • @dj-jazzy-jimbob
      @dj-jazzy-jimbob Год назад +2

      Buying NeXT saved apple.

  • @senyaiv
    @senyaiv 5 лет назад +22

    im so proud of being one of your community, 65scribe. your videos are just unique

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  5 лет назад +4

      Thanks very much! It’s great to have you watching.

  • @photolabguy
    @photolabguy 5 лет назад +10

    What a nice way to top off a Sunday evening!

  • @RyanMartinez
    @RyanMartinez 5 лет назад +17

    Marathon was a great game and does not get the recognition it deserves in the mainstream.

    • @paulmuaddib451
      @paulmuaddib451 5 лет назад +1

      Too true.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  5 лет назад +1

      Agreed!

    • @tenminutetokyo2643
      @tenminutetokyo2643 4 года назад

      Ryan Martinez There’s a modern remake that runs native on macOS. Not a Steam clone.

    • @antibodiesagainstkookery3871
      @antibodiesagainstkookery3871 3 года назад +1

      @@tenminutetokyo2643 Aleph One? That's not even a remake, it's the original engine but open-sourced and ported to OS X.

  • @BlueMSX.
    @BlueMSX. 3 года назад +5

    when the preforma 6200 went ding, I felt that

    • @mihela8167
      @mihela8167 3 года назад +1

      I own one. He's not wrong.

  • @askhowiknow5527
    @askhowiknow5527 5 лет назад +10

    Your cinematography is great. You know you’re watching a 65scribe video. Don’t change it.

    • @MemeFactoryFaculty
      @MemeFactoryFaculty 5 лет назад +6

      EVERYTHING LED it’s not that bad. It feels like I’m watching a home movie, with that nice comfy feeling

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  5 лет назад +1

      Thanks for the comments Lewis! I'm glad you like how it is shot. I always expect flak from working in upscaled 720p and part of me agrees with Mr. LED. But jumping between 4K and the VHS quality video of the 90's ... and bouncing between aspect ratios would be way too jarring. Plus I can't even afford a cheap $400 4K camera. :(

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  5 лет назад +3

      Appreciate your point and agree it could look better, it just hasn't been a priority. One of the reasons I started these videos was that most everything out there was either-
      a) a guy poking around the mac with his iphone with no edits
      or
      b) a highly polished ultra hi-def video which tells you nothing beyond what you could read on wikipedia.
      So, I've been fairly focused on making something entertaining, informative and visually well produced, and, just the way things go, getting newer equipment is something I'll do 'tomorrow'. I'm glad to hear that a classic Mac expert likes the videos, and thanks for the feedback! I'm sure you'll see an uptick in the video quality soon enough.

  • @redmanjones362
    @redmanjones362 9 месяцев назад +1

    Love the Angry Videogame Nerd on the yellowing of the SNES

  • @JelloPotate
    @JelloPotate 5 лет назад +11

    Really hoping to see something more from you. Your videos are the some most interesting on youtube about old macs and you seem to really care about machines that literally no one has ever cared for. These machines are treasures and it's great that you've done such a good job showing them off to people.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  5 лет назад +4

      Thanks very much for leaving your thoughts! I'm happy that people are enjoying the videos. I will have a new one very shortly.

    • @DOSBrony
      @DOSBrony 5 лет назад +2

      HYPE

  • @newbreednet
    @newbreednet 5 лет назад +15

    Thanks so much for these videos, man. They bring me that warm fuzzy 90's Mac feeling I love!

  • @messing-with-computers
    @messing-with-computers 4 года назад +8

    Just found your channel and binge watched the whole set. Great blend of humor and teaching, make more!!

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  4 года назад +4

      Thanks for watching all the videos, Curtis! I appreciate that. Thanks for the feedback, too. Definitely intend to make more.

  • @diegoknyte
    @diegoknyte Год назад +3

    Oh man these vids are awesome! Love the dry humor. 👍🏻

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  Год назад +1

      Thanks Diego! Good to hear you like them.

  • @hypertalking68k
    @hypertalking68k 4 года назад +6

    Glad to see Marathon sneaking into so many of your videos!

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  4 года назад +3

      I’m glad to hear someone enjoyed the Marathon references, and not just me. Thanks!

    • @arbayer2
      @arbayer2 2 года назад +1

      The moment I heard it I got goosebumps. I wonder when a high prod-value Pathways - Marathon - Microsoft acquisition - Halo docu will come out on YT

  • @AndyGarcia-bu7le
    @AndyGarcia-bu7le 2 года назад +4

    I love your humor, and your dedication to your craft. I could watch your videos for hours, and I may or may not have. lol. I always look forward to hearing “Does this do anything” it cracks me up! You’re a genius dude! Keep it up!!!

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  2 года назад +1

      Thank you, Andy! Appreciate you taking the time to let me know that you’re enjoying the videos. Orson Welles always has something to question in the videos. lol.

  • @drgti16v
    @drgti16v 8 месяцев назад +1

    The 4400 was my greatest home backup server ever home built. Full size LTO drive on the right, Retrospect Backup Server, SCSI card. Now I couldn't close the case, but all it had to do was run backup scripts from the storage closet it was housed in

  • @maltoNitho
    @maltoNitho 5 лет назад +8

    Man I love your videos!! It’s a happy day when I see something new from you.

  • @JanghanHong
    @JanghanHong 5 лет назад +24

    Wow, you're back. I watched some of your videos about three times already.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  5 лет назад +2

      That's great. Glad you keep coming back!

  • @AssTelescope
    @AssTelescope 5 лет назад +2

    These videos are very informative. I love watching them and learning about the macs I grew up with.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  5 лет назад

      That’s great to hear! Thanks for watching.

  • @ziky7k
    @ziky7k 5 лет назад +2

    I love your videos. Very very simple but a lot of funny! :) Please don't stop! As a kid, I've grove up with a Performa. You gave me a good reminder and refreshed my past history. Very good work !

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  5 лет назад

      Thanks very much for your positive comments! Glad you are enjoying them!

  • @TheTriskitty
    @TheTriskitty 4 года назад +1

    The Power Mac 4400 or 7220 was build by Acer for Apple. Acer used a case design that they also used for their Aspire PCs as the foundation. It explains why the floppy is on the wrong side when compared to other Apple models.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  4 года назад

      Tristan Peemoeller
      Interesting info! Hard to find anything on this machine, it was so universally ignored at the time.

  • @Evgeny1
    @Evgeny1 5 лет назад +2

    Very pleasant and satisfying. I've definitely learned a lot. Thanks to you, and your assistant from bottom left.

  • @koolioperson5534
    @koolioperson5534 2 года назад +1

    Didn’t notice till now that you included the AVGN clip, hahaha

  • @tulippasta
    @tulippasta 8 месяцев назад

    I’m bingeing these vids. My school had these computers! I played my first mp3 file on one of these, and built my first (mock) website on this model too. This was in 2000-2001. Later, at uni, they were scrapping a lot of old macs and I took a 7220. I used it a little until it stopped booting. When I saw you explaining it won’t boot with a dead clock battery I kicked myself! Because I took it apart and threw most of it in the trash 😣

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  8 месяцев назад

      Sorry to hear you received the clock battery information too late. Thanks for sharing your memories of this model. Glad you’re watching this video series!

  • @MichaelJ023
    @MichaelJ023 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for the great videos! Now it is quite popular for people to collect these old Macs. It brings back fond memories of when I collected obsolete Macs in 98, that were only 3 to 9 years old at the time. I had probably 26 different models of SE’s, Classics, Performas, etc. Now I don’t have any of them. It was quite fun at the time because parts were very cheap and readily available. Fun times.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  3 года назад +1

      Wow, you were a pioneer! Glad the videos bring back the good times. I’ll have a new one tomorrow as part of vintage Macintosh month... Now it has its own month! Collecting old macs is ‘quite popular’ indeed!!

    • @MichaelJ023
      @MichaelJ023 3 года назад

      Yes, I saw the video, excellent! Oh, it’s Macintosh month? That is very fitting, I just bought this month a Powermac G4 dual 533, and a G4 iMac. I go for G4’s that boot into os9.

  • @cjhawk67
    @cjhawk67 4 года назад +2

    It's actually indirect UV light heat and humidity that yellows plastic. If you leave yellowed plastic out to sit in direct sunlight without any chemicals on bright sunny days even plastics yellowed to the point of being almost orange will bleach white naturally. It's slower then retrobrite but doesnt require disassembly. Retro recipes did a video on this using this method to "light bright" his yellowed Macintosh. I've managed to test this with orange yellowed keyboards bringing them back to pure white again aswell as with some early 90s VGA monitors although some stuff took as long as a week to brighten up and i accidentally left a monitor out once during a rain storm (although it works fine after drying out for a few days) 3 days in so you have to remember to watch the weather and bring them in at night just to be safe.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  4 года назад

      That's really interesting! I did not know that. Thanks for sharing that. I may have to do some more experiments...

    • @cjhawk67
      @cjhawk67 4 года назад

      @@65scribe Awesome id love to see the results you get from your tests in a video in the future. :

    • @cjhawk67
      @cjhawk67 4 года назад

      @@65scribe These where keyboards i tested this with at first. I tried 1 for 3 days and the other 2 i forgot about and left out for around 8 days. The order is the same in the 2nd and 3rd picture for reference. cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/614268221981196337/704010599562084392/20180418_145611.jpg cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/614268221981196337/704012394220879942/JPEG_20190806_095043.jpg cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/614268221981196337/704012581450285096/JPEG_20190820_101006.jpg

  • @MicrobyteAlan
    @MicrobyteAlan 2 года назад +2

    Very entertaining and informative. I really enjoy your videos. Thanks. Watched this on my iPad Pro 12.9 model A1584.

  • @kaoshonen
    @kaoshonen 5 лет назад +3

    I always enjoy your videos!

  • @dcvk6250
    @dcvk6250 5 лет назад +65

    *Sees notification for new 65scribe video*
    Time to drop everything I’m doing

    • @TheDarkFire
      @TheDarkFire 5 лет назад +1

      DCVK honestly same.

    • @iamzeiss9244
      @iamzeiss9244 5 лет назад

      Exactly

    • @seshpenguin
      @seshpenguin 5 лет назад

      Yep!

    • @paulmuaddib451
      @paulmuaddib451 5 лет назад

      EXACTLY.
      Was totally preparing for Fallout 76 when I got this notification and it was FULL STOP.

    • @andycraig7734
      @andycraig7734 5 лет назад +1

      DCVK Yes. Everything but your pants, please. ;-)

  • @Mojames1984
    @Mojames1984 3 года назад +4

    I love that at the time you said “cheap and underpowered Macs” you zoomed in on the Performa 6200cd. What a piece of junk that was

  • @georgesenda1952
    @georgesenda1952 4 года назад +1

    I am binge watching these videos & thank you for doing them.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  4 года назад +1

      You're welcome, George. Thanks for commenting back!

  • @CassandraCarter
    @CassandraCarter 5 лет назад +3

    As soon as I saw the Rayovac block battery, I knew it needed replacing. Wasn't disappointed.
    Glad to see you take on this wacky model of Mac. Jason's Macintosh Museum (channel sadly no longer updated) has a vid on it, too. I think he goes into some of the quirkiness of this model, but it's been a while since I watched it.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  5 лет назад +2

      Yes, I recall Jason's Macintosh Museum had a 4400 video, but I haven't watched it because I wanted to make my own video without being influenced by his good work. I'll probably go back and watch it now.

  • @mariusberger3297
    @mariusberger3297 4 года назад +11

    3:22 dude😅

  • @axnyslie
    @axnyslie 5 лет назад +18

    DAMN!

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  5 лет назад +1

      Where did you learn such language?

    • @axnyslie
      @axnyslie 5 лет назад +2

      Pole Position.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  5 лет назад +1

      LOL ;)

    • @nickwallette6201
      @nickwallette6201 3 года назад

      @@65scribe YOU, ALRIGHT? I LEARNED IT FROM WATCHING YOU!

  • @ben1777
    @ben1777 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for your videos. We love them!

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  2 года назад +1

      Appreciate that, Ben! Thanks for watching.

  • @dokethebroke7679
    @dokethebroke7679 5 лет назад +1

    Great to se your back love your videos keep it up

  • @TortillaYT
    @TortillaYT 2 года назад +1

    I have one of these! I remember watching your video on it over and over again while waiting for it to arrive in the mail

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  2 года назад +1

      Very cool! Hope you’ve had some retro fun with it.

  • @BollingHolt
    @BollingHolt 5 лет назад +1

    LOL I love the way you pepper in humor into these videos. I'm still grateful that I learned how to power up my Macintosh IIfx with the "jump start" method in one of your videos. I actually have a second IIfx arriving today. Now I need to get me a proper display or two.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  5 лет назад +1

      Great to know you’re making use of that information. Good luck with your IIfx’s.

    • @BollingHolt
      @BollingHolt 5 лет назад

      @@65scribe Indeed! Thanks!

    • @rickkephartactual7706
      @rickkephartactual7706 Год назад +2

      I remember drooling when the Macintosh IIfx came out. What a machine. And special memory. And a price I could never afford back then

  • @RacerX-
    @RacerX- 5 лет назад +1

    First time viewer and that was a great video. I remember the 4400 at the time and always thought it was a bit of an oddball. Your explanations and research were helpful, keep up the good work.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  5 лет назад +1

      I'm glad you liked the video. To be honest, I was completely oblivious to the 4400's existence until I read about it several years later. That yellow Apple mailer I show in the video... the envelope wasn't even opened until I was researching this video. I had just thrown it in my Apple file folder back in 1996. The eternal motivation of a pack-rat that "it will be useful one day" actually paid off!

    • @RacerX-
      @RacerX- 5 лет назад +1

      @@65scribe LOL! That sounds familiar and hey, you did use it one day. 👍

  • @ku-1500
    @ku-1500 5 лет назад +1

    Really excited to see you uploading new video since the last one😆

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  5 лет назад

      Thanks for coming back to watch :)

  • @jimseibyl5140
    @jimseibyl5140 Год назад +1

    I’m a little late to the party but I love these vids…..thank you!

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  Год назад

      Glad you showed up, Jim. Thanks for the feedback!

  • @linoxyard
    @linoxyard 5 лет назад +1

    Another great one! Keep up the good work

  • @TheCj71984
    @TheCj71984 4 года назад +2

    Please put out more of this great content

  • @halvardlund4782
    @halvardlund4782 2 года назад +1

    Hehe. A great lookback to the Mac I never had or needed. I had a performa 450 and it got me through to 2000.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  2 года назад

      You did well with the Performa then! When I got a G4 tower in 2000, the store was shocked that I was upgrading from such a long obsolete 6100.

  • @bchoward0000
    @bchoward0000 3 года назад

    Love your sense of humor.

  • @fsfs555
    @fsfs555 3 года назад +2

    The 4400s are funny little things. The floppy is on the left because that's where it was when the basic LPX-standard case was designed; the 4400 team just stuck a custom bezel on it and dropped in their LPX-40 logic board and shipped it. I haven't figured out who designed the case but it was used by a few low-end PCs during the short-lived LPX standard.
    The boot chime was probably truncated a bit to fit within the ROMs. Cost savings, you know.
    Like a few other Macs (especially later PowerBooks such as the G3s and TiBooks), these would boot without a clock battery, but not with a dead one installed; they work fine without one except for not keeping time when unplugged. If you have one of these in storage it's best to take the battery out now because eventually it will leak and ruin the logic board.
    The G3 processor itself didn't need OS 8 (lots of people upgraded their Sys 7.5-running Macs with G3 cards without issue) and it's not impossible to run 7.6.1 on a beige G3 desktop if you shoehorn in a few extensions to get a couple things working. Steve just called System 7.7 "Mac OS 8" to force the cloners to renegotiate their contracts; it wasn't really a major version jump, which is why the only real differences between 7.6.1 and OS 8 are the modified Copland GUI (which you can get on Sys 7 with the Aaron shareware extension) and HFS+ support (which can also be backported to 7.6 to a degree), and why it still runs on 68k whereas the very different OS 8.5 doesn't. Other than that, it was just a bunch of bundled software and window dressing (such as the Appearance control panels) rolled in to make it look like OS 8 was really something new when it really wasn't.

  • @shazmosushi
    @shazmosushi 4 года назад +3

    This channel is laugh out loud funny. Great deadpan!

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  4 года назад +1

      Good to hear that you like videos, but they're not supposed to be funny.
      ;)

  • @vikramjain79
    @vikramjain79 3 года назад +1

    Love your sense of humor man!

  • @MrSad-sn3qv
    @MrSad-sn3qv 5 лет назад +1

    I always enjoy your every video.

  • @oskich
    @oskich 3 года назад +1

    My first Mac bought with hard earned cash from picking potatoes the whole summer. Upgraded with a Rage 128 graphics card and a 300Mhz G3 processor it ran Unreal Tournament decently :)

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  3 года назад

      Thanks Oskar! I like hearing those 4400 stories, and interesting to hear the battery removal worked for you too.

  • @Leofwine
    @Leofwine 2 года назад

    I rescued one of these from certain death 11 years ago - coincidentally, the first Mac I ever saw.
    Mine has been upgraded with a G3 processor card, a USB 1.1 card and some sort of network card by the original owner, and I could theoretically browse the net with Netscape.
    It ran once for a scanning job and crapped out just before the document was through.
    My Amiga is of more use to me, and it's six years the Power Mac's senior.

  • @seshpenguin
    @seshpenguin 5 лет назад +3

    I am excited for this one!

  • @MemeFactoryFaculty
    @MemeFactoryFaculty 5 лет назад +1

    You’re finally back!

  • @brenthendricks8182
    @brenthendricks8182 3 года назад +3

    GIMO, Graphics Internal Monitor Out, was used with the PC Card.

  • @davidAll5
    @davidAll5 2 года назад +1

    very nice memory
    i remember seeing "the new MacIntosh beast: the 4400" on a magazine
    then around 1999, i was training on multimedia - cd-rom & internet-
    i was eager to play with the beast
    but my fellow students said "what an old machine !"
    - duh !!

  • @abdelbassatkhadraoui2616
    @abdelbassatkhadraoui2616 4 года назад +2

    my first mac😍
    4400/160 🥺 i Miss it

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  4 года назад

      ABDELBASSAT KHADRAOUI
      Cool!

  • @aytviewer2421
    @aytviewer2421 4 года назад +1

    I thought I knew virtually every mac model ever produced --but was unaware of the 4400. Cool.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  4 года назад

      Actually, I didn’t know about it either until 10 years after it was discontinued.

  • @colleton60
    @colleton60 4 года назад

    I love your videos. Absolutely savage!

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  4 года назад

      Thanks very much, John!

  • @alarak2159
    @alarak2159 4 года назад +1

    I only just managed to find a Power Macintosh 4400/200 this past week - along with the 14" Macintosh Color Monitor. Over the moon - cracking machine.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  4 года назад +1

      That’s excellent! Have fun with that.

  • @tstahlfsu
    @tstahlfsu 4 года назад +1

    LOL. Your videos are amazing and hilarious. Love it

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  4 года назад

      That's great to hear. Thank you!

  • @bramvandenbroeck5060
    @bramvandenbroeck5060 4 года назад +1

    When you make a battery case out of alkaline batteries, its beneficial if you can found a way to mount the batteries on the outside of the case, somewhere in the rear, if you forget to take em out, and they start to leak, they will leak or explode on the outside of the case. Jason from macintosh museum also had a powermac where a clock battery prevented the machine from booting, he also made a alkaline solution for his mac, he stuck the batterie holder on top of the graphics adapter, forgot to take out the batteries and a couple of months later, he opened up his mac, and found a disaster inside his mac . . .

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  4 года назад +1

      Great point, Bram! Thinking beyond just trying to get the computer to boot is a good idea. I did remember to unplug the battery contraption after the video was done. Thanks for the heads-up, though. You have a good idea, wiring it out the back. I did something similar for the Macintosh II in my 'Jump Start' video, but it didn't occur to me to do the same here until you mentioned it.

  • @motomike71
    @motomike71 5 месяцев назад

    I remember the 4400/200 the Mac I wished I had waited to get after getting an anemic 7200/90 the year before. It was aggressively priced and engineered. Though the ATA drives were slower than the SCSI Macs had been using for years, IDE drives were much cheaper so upgrades were more affordable. Especially important as Apple, then as now, tended to go low end on storage and memory. Switching to PC compatible memory also saved on that upgrade as well. If you still needed SCSI speed the port was there for an outboard hard drive. I remember forgoing a grip to Florida and Disney World with my friends over spring break so I could spend the money on a 2GB SCSI hard drive. Man, that seemed like a lot of space at the time.
    The 4400 was the Mac that was supposed to "save the company." It may have held off the wolves for a bit, but it could not save Gil Amelio from Steve Jobs's ambition to take his company back and give us the Mac that would actually save the company.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  5 месяцев назад

      Great personal reflection on the 4400. Thanks for sharing that! While I hesitate to give Steve Jobs as much credit as he took for saving the company, I can appreciate that if things didn’t happen exactly the way they did, there would not have been an Apple after Spindler’s destructive reign.

  • @sbrazenor2
    @sbrazenor2 3 года назад +3

    At the time these were out, I was an Apple technician for an authorized service provider. I don't recall ever seeing a 4400 come in. I'd seen just about everything else, just not those. Either it means nobody bought them, or they just didn't break. 🤔

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  3 года назад +1

      Interesting info, Sean. Thanks! Possibly both could be true!

  • @HR-wd6cw
    @HR-wd6cw 4 года назад +1

    To be technicall correct, the drives shown here are parallel ATA but even new SSDs and current hard drives are technically ATA drives as well (As ATA was just an acronym for Advanced TEchnology Attachment). Obviously we have moved away from ATA technology now with PCI-Exress and NVMe stoarge. The one thing I Do not miss of the old Parallel ATA days was the stupid jumpers.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  4 года назад

      All very true! Thanks for commenting!

  • @craigcooper1967
    @craigcooper1967 4 года назад +1

    My thumbs up took them to 604... quite fitting :-)

    • @craigcooper1967
      @craigcooper1967 4 года назад +1

      Writing this on my Mojave i7-8700 Hackintosh, a modern Mackintosh clone, at least since Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.4 came out :-D

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  4 года назад

      Yes, that's cool! And thanks!

  • @pinomarino8917
    @pinomarino8917 3 года назад +4

    In the eyes of a collector, I'd rather have the IDE interface when it comes to hard drives as Compact Flash/SD Adapters are very affordable whereas SCSI devices still start around $200.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  3 года назад +1

      An excellent point!

  • @paulmuaddib451
    @paulmuaddib451 2 года назад +1

    There's leaves in it.
    There's *leaves* in here!

  • @alerey4363
    @alerey4363 3 года назад +3

    5:37 here in South America we knew that new manual voltage selection would cause a lot of exploded PSUs, as many resellers sold the USA 110V-pre selected 4400s to customers in 220V countries; and indeed we repaired literally dozens of exploded 4400 PSUs connected to 220V factory switched to 110V; I know Apple put that yellow warning sticker but Apple customers are...well...never mind

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  3 года назад +1

      Great information, Juan. Thanks for posting that!

  • @Aaronage1
    @Aaronage1 5 лет назад

    Another 10/10 video dude :)

  • @onigvd77
    @onigvd77 Год назад

    very good video, quiet in-depth overview. I do remember the machine mostly for the fact when released in m area it had to be the 7220. I think I would buy one to muck around with just because they are so different to other machines apple released.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching, Grant! You’re right. The differences make this an interesting machine.

  • @YesterYearsMacGames
    @YesterYearsMacGames 5 лет назад +5

    Excellent vid as ever. Really interesting just how many little cost cuts and carry-overs from prev models there were on this.
    Regarding the square clock battery replacement, do macs attempt to charge them as well? I've been wondering if standard non-rechargy AAAs were a no-go for this sort of thing

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  5 лет назад +1

      Good point. I'll have to keep an eye on my make-shift battery. Thanks for that!

  • @jeremytravis360
    @jeremytravis360 5 лет назад +1

    I had forgotten that I still have one of these machines lurking in the corner of my computer room.

  • @steves009
    @steves009 Год назад +1

    In New Zealand they sold as the PowerMac 7220

  • @tenminutetokyo2643
    @tenminutetokyo2643 5 лет назад +1

    Another note is that since the 4400 used a standard PC ATAPI CD drive, you can easily replace it with a new stock one, if you can find a vendor who still makes them, which I believe Lite-On does.

  • @runforit420
    @runforit420 5 лет назад +1

    That was such a shame to hear about Syd - I'd driven down to Brantford a few times and he was such a great guy.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  5 лет назад +2

      runforit420 That’s true. A tragic loss. I’m planning to reference his contributions in an upcoming video.

  • @slightlyevolved
    @slightlyevolved 6 месяцев назад

    It's basic, but I actually really liked the design language of the 4400. I think it's a nice looking machine.

  • @alexn51881
    @alexn51881 3 года назад

    18:40 for the “Damn!!!” Lolol

  • @abandonedchannel7561
    @abandonedchannel7561 5 лет назад +3

    Watching this on my G3 iBook!

  • @cgarby
    @cgarby 3 месяца назад

    Kudos for the drunk orson wells drop

  • @owenrichards1418
    @owenrichards1418 3 года назад +1

    Jesus, it even looks like a Winbox inside.

  • @Fifury161
    @Fifury161 4 года назад +1

    It really was a nightmare to work on the internals - those metal parts where razor sharp!
    I also keep my collection in a shed, which unfortunately suffered from a roof collapse - there are brand new still sealed Archimedes computers in there!

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  4 года назад

      That sounds like it has the makings of a great video. I'd watch that.

    • @Fifury161
      @Fifury161 4 года назад

      @@65scribe I have been toying with the idea for years, but never get round to it! I wish I had video'd my cull earlier. I thinned out my PC collection and got rid of everything under 1Ghz. I did take pictures though...

  • @s1rb1untly
    @s1rb1untly 17 дней назад +1

    The Cyrix 6x86 was great in integer math, and would often outperfom the Pentium clock-for-clock (hence the "PR Rating"), but the FPU was donkey balls which rendered it less than useful for 3D games that utilized it. Quake being a notable example. From what I remember A PR-200 part was at least a third slower than a Pentium 133MHz.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  17 дней назад

      That’s interesting information. Thanks for sharing that. Sounds like it really depended on what you wanted to do.

  • @VincentValentine
    @VincentValentine 5 лет назад +1

    Love it!!

  • @angryshoebox
    @angryshoebox 5 лет назад +2

    Another cool video, keep up the good work. I had a PowerComputing PowerCenter 150 back in the ‘90s.
    I remember around 1999 or 2000 Sonnett Technologies made a G3 upgrade card for Power Mac 7200s(which also had soldered CPUs)that plugged into the L2 cache slot. I wonder if they made one of these G3 cards for the 4400 as well.
    I liked the 15” AV monitor, its speakers sounded pretty good, compared to ones on its little brother, the 14” AV, which sounded terrible to my ears, really tinny.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  5 лет назад

      Thank you! I think they made G3 cards that were compatible with the Tanzania board, be it the 4400 or Motorola clones. You know, after all that I never fired up the 15AV monitor's speakers. I'll have to try it. Thanks for sharing your insights!

    • @labrador_wow_wow
      @labrador_wow_wow 4 года назад +1

      @@65scribe I used to work for a CPU upgrade manufacturer back in the day. The Sonnet 7200 card was a PCI card, not an L2 card. I met the Sonnet guys on the Apple Expo Paris when they first presented it and they proudly showed it to me the day before the show opened. I just had a blank look, thinking "nice, but ermm you're two years too late". I don't think they sold that many, the upgrade market was going down the pan by that time (was it in 2000? can't remember) as it was pretty clear the upcoming OS X wouldn't run on upgraded Macs (out of the box at least). As you say, there were lots of G3 cards that plugged into the L2 cache slot for the Tanzania boards.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  4 года назад +1

      You jogged my memory on that. It seemed like people were talking forever about inventing an upgrade card for the 7200, and, yeah, by the time they came up with something, it hardly mattered. Good info! Thanks!

    • @Bleckman666
      @Bleckman666 4 года назад

      Sonnett did indeed make a very good G3 upgrade card (I think it was called the Crescendo?), I bought it, and extended the life of my 4400 until i was able to buy a iMac DV Special Edition, which then introduced me to Mac OS X, but that is another story...

  • @phonghai87
    @phonghai87 Год назад +1

    14:16 I saw another Mac startup sound video and they said this short chime also used in powerbook 2400, 3400 and G3 Kanga

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  Год назад

      Great information! Thanks!

  • @curtisbradley1500
    @curtisbradley1500 5 лет назад +3

    YESSSSS new video

  • @ArmaAutomotive
    @ArmaAutomotive 2 года назад +1

    The 4400 was a
    Pretty interesting show actually.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  2 года назад +1

      I never did watch it, but I hear it got a 2021 reboot, so it must have gained quite a following. As far as I am aware, the reboot will not talk about the Power Mac 4400 either. :(

    • @ArmaAutomotive
      @ArmaAutomotive 2 года назад

      @@65scribe thanks for the video,

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  2 года назад

      @@ArmaAutomotive I’m glad you liked it, Jon

  • @turbinegraphics16
    @turbinegraphics16 4 года назад +1

    I brought one of these and its a nice machine for old games, the 200 mhz cpu seems a bit better than a p200. Back when this was new the pc was still the better choice because of all the software you could get but the mac had some good exclusives.

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  4 года назад

      That's true - like Marathon :) Thanks for sharing your experience with the machine!

  • @halnor777
    @halnor777 5 лет назад

    Yes, hope never dies.

  • @Gmoney6422
    @Gmoney6422 5 лет назад +1

    Welp, I'm late. Happy to see another video though!

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  5 лет назад +2

      Better late than never, Gmoney. Thanks!

  • @ferrreira
    @ferrreira 3 года назад +2

    I always come back to this video just to hear the Performa 6200 "true" chime hahahaha I have a Performa 6360 in my collection and indeed it's not a speedy Mac by any measure

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  3 года назад +1

      Glad you liked that. And the 6360 was said to be the only good 6200/6300 model.

    • @ferrreira
      @ferrreira 3 года назад +1

      @@65scribe it's not too bad indeed, I bought it from a guy and it came with System 7.5.5 in Brazilian Portuguese

  • @jeremytravis360
    @jeremytravis360 5 лет назад +1

    I still have one sitting on the floor of my computer room.

  • @BilisNegra
    @BilisNegra 5 лет назад +2

    I equally enjoy a review like this, and once again realize just how good is to live in 2018 for a computer enthusiast. Well you had to throw 1700 bucks for a basic computer model back then, 2700 in today's money! What you can build with that cash today is not exactly basic, right?

  • @ciaranmartin5374
    @ciaranmartin5374 3 года назад +1

    lol with the Rogers jingle at 9:21

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  3 года назад +1

      That’s cool you identified that sound. Filming that shot, I had accidentally shut off the phone in my pocket. I decided to leave the sound in the video.

    • @ciaranmartin5374
      @ciaranmartin5374 3 года назад +1

      @@65scribe interesting! I thought it was a reference to the drive being on a carrier, Rogers also being a carrier for cell phones lol

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  3 года назад +1

      A better joke than was actually there. lol

  • @sonicunleashedfan124
    @sonicunleashedfan124 3 года назад +1

    Maybe the chime was shortened because the full chime was copyright of Apple but the shortened chime was public domain for the clones

    • @65scribe
      @65scribe  3 года назад

      That theory probably makes the most sense. It could be a chime they gave to the clones and the 4400 had a clone board.