What we learned from F1 2024's first proper day
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
- Testing is over, the race weekend has started, here are the main things we learned from the first day of practice at the Bahrain Grand Prix.
And stick around until the end for our latest assessment of the emerging 2024 F1 pecking order.
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0:00 Intro
0:15 Mercedes looks genuinely better
1:30 Williams's 2024 car is a miracle
3:51 What's changed trackside
6:06 How much trouble Alpine really is in
7:07 Mercedes front wing looks set to stay
8:10 McLaren's curious position
9:06 First sign of a real pecking order
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2:17. This makes a lot of sense to why Williams had to miss the first day of pre season testing a number of years ago because they didn't have the car finished.
Also, they did not have the money.
Since Williams inception they have always done things on the cheap. It's taken them about 10 yrs just to upgrade to the latest steering wheels. Old Frank Williams always had funding problems, which is why it eventually got sold because they ran out of money
@@N1NJAKIDD active suspension wasn't cheap.
@@ericmcmanus5179They killed Senna
@@oscarsibanda9454 which was also not cheap
it must be a terrible situation for Gasly, it looks like Vcarb is definitely going to outscore Alpine
Vcarb?
Oh I get it now haha
I was thinking the same thing. It must suck that you leave the other RedBull team to go to a works team just to be handed a terrible car your 2nd season with the team. He’s gunna watch Tsunoda and Ricciardo’s rear wing all season.
VRB is miles ahead of them, tje real question is Williams v Sauber v Alpine
That would be embarassing for them
@@RoyMatzem Nah, Stake is the alpine of the back markers they will not be close. Williams maybe, if my boy Logan pulls a Piastri.
This is the level of analysis is why I watch The Race!!
Please keep doing videos like this!!
Hamilton after p1 and p2: - what have I done!
Hamilton after a race: - glad I will leave Mercedes
😂😂😂
Tire deg was higher than 2023. It's not Ferrari bad, but 0.2 sec a lap slower than RedBull on long runs.
so you genuinely believe "REDBULL ERA" is a thing? please dont be so overconfident lol. redbull have 1-2 good years and their fans acting like they the greatest ever lol
@@thomasshelby5454well last year they did break alltime records so...
Yeah, they had the most dominant season ever. How many races did Mercedes win last year?
Finally the F1 season is getting started! 🔥
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@@RAZGR1Zye seeing her everywhere
How do u get a bot to have over a mil subs haha. North Korea and china stepping their game up
Its lights out and here we go....!! And it's 5 seconds penalty for Ocon😂😂
And like last year (according to DtS) Russell is struggling even before turn 1!
“And away we go”
Box box box
2:57 Williams’ HQ front lawn shrubbery is awesome!
At least they can afford a decent lawn shrub because they can't afford to make a decent car.
@@teabagtowers3823They've got more money than all the teams around them in the standings😂
@@sheeshman9713if they had money the wouldn't be struggling
@@dragonballhomie4353 investment takes time to yield results, but don't worry, you will learn these things when you reach high school.
@@sheeshman9713 Is that why they're a backmarker.
Scott and ed corner commentary was so insightful, awesome
I'm just glad they are saying "RB" and "Sauber" instead of those terrible names.
That's the registered team names.
(At least "RB", not sure about Sauber atm rn).
glad that we are not heading into idiotic naming of the pro-cycling teams where even the commentators start repeating whole names
Well thats was obvious, nobody called 'The Cognizant team' or 'the Petronas' theyre just sponsors
Sauber is good but I dont like the naming of RB. Honestly I prefer VCARB to make the distinction between the teams more obvious since RB has a history of being an abbreviation for Red Bull.
@@NiSE_Rafter Agree
Glad the f1 season is getting started, let's go!!
👍💯
I’m really liking this new format of your race weekend coverage. Good job S usual.
They were ALL holding back in FP1 and FP2
Order will be COMPLETELY different tomorrow
Lol
Great Video team but please get some microphone windshields for the piece to cams that you are doing track side. The poor sound quality there was at odds with the great production quality everywhere else in the video. other than that thanks for the informative video and keep up the good work.
Think the most important thing to realise is that hamiltons practice time was faster than his qualifying time last year snd he didnt even have a perfect lap
EXACTLY! Max was on pole with a 1:29.7 Lewis clocked a 1:30.3 in practice. We're very close.
mb is gonna become a midfield team.
I liked the people on track!
The Race taking it to the next level with the trackside observation report this year!
These trackside commentaries are insanely good, top content!!!!!!
Always been the best F1 coverage but you guys have raised the bar again! Brilliant analysis and just pure fact driven. Editing is second to none as well
Great summary, subscribed :)
Great content, as usual... I hope you get some audio equipment for windy days, though ;)
4:59 nice transition there :)
Transition at 4:59 was clean😂
Edit: 7:36 genuinely fuck the "SpIriT oF tHe rEgUlAtIoNs"
The spirit of the regulations is to reduce dirty air
Totally agree. Laughable for Pat Symonds of all people to be talking about the spirit of rules and regulations, given his prior involvement in race fixing!
@@mhj360Exactly this.
Agreed, "spirit of the regulations" is just a way for the FIA to cover their asses when a team genuinely innovates within the parameters of the rules so they can still come down on that team if they're "too" competitive.
if they're so determined to make everyone the same why don't they just buy a fleet of identical cars themselves and deliver them to the teams on race day
A very good insight
Top notch content!
Thanks!
I love this trackside analysis. Bravo
You should do a community poll to see who everyone thinks is going to be 1st 2nd and 3rd this weekend
Last years P1 was 1.29.5 or something like that … there is still a long way to go. When asked Zak said it looked like Mercedes had turned the engine up whereas Reb Bull had not … hence the reason Max is not worried
Exactly, RB knows it will destroy everyone if they show their true pace.
1:29.7 was pole last year. The RB20 isn't 1.1 slower than the RB19. 😂
I'm guess pole will be high 1:28s
They're hoping they've turned the engine up.
Well there u go … as predicted … poor lewis … 9th 🤣🤣🤣
Also max made a comment after fp2 that merc probably had their engine cranked up meaning redbull still sandbags probably until tomorrow mid fp3
More like q2 or 1 before they turn it up
if there's one team that usually uses the lowest engine map available is merc and then it showed on the long runs that Red bull is still clear at the top
practice is practice. Its not a race to destroy your car. So be careful with the words pamperham fangirl.
@@Swarmahthink you need to reread the original comment. Red bull had their engines turned down 100%
Even Zac brown said the same. RB is sandbagging as hell. Merc definitely turned some engine up
Sure would liked to have heard something on the HAAS cars!!!
Just because they're at the back right now doesn't mean we fans don't want to know what's going on with them!!!!!!
I very much enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
here's what's going on with them:
they are shit.
repeat for every race until the end of time.
Wild to imagine Williams still had such antiquated practices. That was supposed to be what Dorilton Capital was fixing. Not what the guy they parachute in years later finds out still hasn't been addressed.
I'm optimistic for the future though. James is great, all of their juniors are doing amazing even in the case Sargeant flat out sucks this year and Pat Fry is a bloody good TD
He didn't find out it still hasn't been addressed. Or I would be shocked if he only found it out then.
I heard about this like at least somewhere in 2022. Pretty sure it is common knowledge amongst teams.
Just because u lead a horse to water it does not mean they will drink it. Had the same issue years ago when our factory flaty refused to use new automated production and planning software and wanted to continue with their spread sheets. The only way to sort that is to remove the blockages no matter how long they have been there
The only coverage of F1 i can stomach to watch, but you guys are moving things on leaps! Amazing analysis
Post race scrutiny of the Mercedes planks should be interesting with those fireworks of sparks going on 👀.
That's what i was thinking. Running that ride height with a full 100 kilos of fuel is gonna be quite the light show 😂
reminds me of Texas, where Mercedes did well until they were planked
I’m sure they’ll have to raise the ride height, but at what cost to the downforce/speed ?. It will be an interesting weekend , although not necessarily a true indication, of the pecking order.
That was my thought exactly as I watched all of the sparks flying from both Mercedes cars lap after lap .
If you watched the footage most ofthe sparks were coming from the bottom of the rear wing points not the centre where you would get them if the plank was rubbing
McLaren is sort of expected. Stella said last year the MCL38 will initially focus on slow speed and pace improvement with upgrades helping the drivability issues later on. Which looks like to have happened.
People focus too much on emotion. Stella is a robot, he says very important things in an unenthusiastic way, everyone goes, ohhhh shit mclaren is doomed. They said they met their target but have new upgrades coming soon. So people think they have missed their target. Until now , they have been very good in a way or another. They are always at the top of sheets I a circuit not suited for their car.
@@danielvilliers612 you're right maybe. i was really surprised to the long run laptimes being so competitive and that too from piastri, considering how horrendous they were looking in testing
Going to hold judgment on where the teams & drivers are until qualy & the GP, especially since this is the season opener.
lol right as he said tail wind, as if on queue, the mic gets blasted by it
Hope Piastri has a good year
Edd Straw's enthusiasm and humor always makes me happy. 10/10 would have a beer with him
Love seeing Edd trackside
The F1 TV ad is misleading, it is not *clear* that you have access to live grand prix, or not. the add 'hints' at it, and the website doesn't mention it at all, however there is a 'live' view flashing during the ad and it IS mentioned.
Sorry Pat Symmonds talking about “spirit of the rules” after Singapore 2008 ? ahahaha
The audacity 😂😂😂
Hhh you forgot abu dhabi 2021
@@kenzabel5394Abu Dhabi 2021 was within the rules, not talking about fairness
@aventusV33 2021 was not legal in the sense the race should of been finalised behind safety car and not letting lapped cars unlap them selfs which is unprecedented it was a circus
@@mrdecor3060 Unprecedented but not illegal, there is no rule saying the race should finish behind the safety car
There is no "illegal in a sense". It is or it's not.
I’m actually so excited about williams - of the backmarker teams they really seem like the only one fully committed to doing whatever it takes to become competitive
That has been happening for 20 years, it won't change in a hurry. It's Amazing they are still on the grid. Last title on 1997 and last win in 2012.
Why would they sandbag? What possible advantage? It’s not like you’re negotiating your starting position like in drag racing
Using the DeRevive plugin will help you with Scott's audio there friends
Williams car miracle will definitely on talk for the next season of DTS, almost a deja vu moment
I hope this year will be more competitive than last year
Great video as usual. Disappointed that you are promoting F1 TV, featuring that clart Buxton 😢
Some teams are literally slower than they were in testing, fp2 meant nothing to us
We won't know anything until Quali and the actual race itself. Excited to see where the teams are actually standig.
@@pedobear8903 Big facts, I can't say much tho cuz my dumb ass still clicked on this video
Yep, max is still 1.1 seconds off his pole time last year. He should be AT LEAST 0.5 quicker than last year
I think alpine is trying to pull a mclaren where they mentioned they fell short of winter development.
I would kind of ignore Mclaren this weekend, as even when we where championship contenders, Bahrain was always poor for Mclaren! In 2008, they finished behind both BMW's & Ferrari's for instance.
I think if you look at the way Hamilton drove in pre-season testing it seems clear he was more interested in exploring the limits of the car rather than putting in consistent laps / fast laps, that exploration has probably taught the team a lot about the new car and has put them in a good place for the 1st race ref set up. Russell on the other hand did a more standard pre-season test and that in itself will also have given the team valuable long run / high speed consistent run data.
Good work by Mercedes thus far this season, let's see if they can turn that good work into results..
Great results .. 🤣 4th and 6th … a new dawn. Same as last year and the year before that …
Interesting to hear that Piastri seems to be able to grasp the car better than Norris right now.
Out of any team on the grid, I want to see Williams win again.
Big fan of your videos Brother... Keep it up
Aren't there mics for phones with built in wind defelctors? Might want to invest in those guys or the wind really is that strong there.
Quali is where it will be seen.
What I learned about F1 is that nothing really matters until qualifying starts, and qualifying is just a little less important than race day.
Let's keep pushing and get ready for Quali tomorrow. 💪 Solid day to keep understanding long runs, make sure the engines are turned up for tomorrow 🐎 ❤🇮🇹 Forza C² ❤❤💪🏽💪🏽 💚🤍❤ Forza Ferrari! 💚🤍❤
Doesn't mean much..Max stated they weren't running full power but some teams were. Qualifying will be from the mid 28's and anyone pulling high 30's likely won't be in q3.
The nice thing about the Mercedes front wing is it will be super easy for any team to emulate it if their car would benefit from one.
Not really, to a degree
Nah, that front wing shapes the airflow into many features designed into the W15 body, so if indeed it did good, then other teams would have to modify more than just the front wing.
Are you saying f1tv pro now shows races in UK? Is that correct?
To think there's teams like alpine and haas around who do nothing and don't even bother try but andretti was denied is crazy
Exactly
Sparks come from the rear diffuser blades scraping the asphalt, wear plank is more mid-chassis, and Bahrain is famously bumpy. I wouldn't read anything into it (yet).
Williams are former World Champions and a great team who have given amazing moments for many years. Also, what part of working insane hours all winter equals not bothering to try? Haas, I agree with you.
They can come up with a lot of substantiated reasons (who knows what pace a new team Andretti would come with?) but it still is a disgrace... Haas is even open about not pretending to be anything else than "happy to be here" and not to pretend winning anything... and then there is the RedBull team B with VCRB taking another spot without ANY chance to actually become anything but a testing ground for team A. What the actual **** !?
@@freeedom22 there's one reason
€$¢£
"Spirit of the rules" is such a grey area cop out for the FIA to look at things that are unique and interesting (anyone remember DAS?) and be like "You know, the vibes are off with this one. Let's ban it"
Bravo Scott ! Bravo Ed! Best two corners to watch the cars rotate thru ! Wow, you are raising the ante for the other analysts
sitting comfy inside….are you listening Sam?
Liking the new format just need some wind guards for the mics and will be perfect. I just wish f1 would allow actual clips and not just photos as they don't help show full context on any f1 youtube reports
Its good that teams 'may' have caught up in one lap pace but that Red Bull race pace is scary. If Max is 2-5 tenths faster then the field on race pace then it won't matter where you qualify, once DRS activates its all over in a matter of a couple laps.
Yup. Max was nearly 4tenths faster than everyone else with engine turned down. Imagine the engine at full power. Oh god, he definitely gonna lap everyone
Well we now know that it was the best part of .4-.5 seconds a lap. And not even trying
Anyone else picturing James Vowles in the Williams HQ screaming "F*ck Microsoft!!!" like John Malkovich? 😂
Pecking order?
We will have to watch the first race for a hint of that.
Still, the only thing that we can take from these practice sessions, is how happy each team is with their current car philosophy, and if their cars could hint that they will need major upgrades along the season or not. That is all.
Williams still bagging 7th last year while despite being that absurd condition is insane.
No you don't understand Williams factory is like walking into a factory from the 1990's they where still making Formula One cars on Excel Spreadsheet. Making an Formula One car is easy, it take ten times more engineering to make redo a factory. That why the best engineers don't make the car the make the factory that make the cars.
Maybe Alpine will be like McLaren back in 2023, horrible start but improvement in a few races later, although I don't think they'll be on level with McLaren
It is weird for the team formally known as Toro Rosso to be referred to as RB.
I will definitely refer to them as Scuderia Arbys.
they've got the meatiest tires
They need to show MPH at straights end, so we know the engine power comparisons. Without that info it's just talk "speculation"
I saw someone talking about Redbulls is going to fall apart, i mean did you guys forget about testing when Max drive fully fuel and clock it like what, 1.30 or some… imagine if he finds the setup he looking for in Quali..
F1 TV pro doesn’t work in UK
After FP3 ill make my prediction for the season. McLaren so far surprising me on the long runs. Particularly Piastri who looked the closest to Max.
Im still struggling to predict McLaren in the top 3 but if Piastri has improved long run pace to that degree already, Lando has concerns this year. Pair that with Piatri's misfortunes last year being Lewis knocking him out of a race and just bad luck at Silverstone, his contention for top dog at McLaren in year 2 seems very plausible.
Finally seeing that famous voices
We also learnt that Christian Horner loves cocoa pops
Is F1 TV Pro actually available in the UK? I can't find it anywhere
No. Sky have the rights to it. Just use a vpn. Or stream
@@harry4454Do you know any good stream sites for F1?
Don't subscribe mate. Wait till first race and see how a big gap RB has with others.
No, Sky has the monopoly on providing F1 content in the UK, about £50 per month just for the F1 package I think.
@@KevinRiley no its not 😂. You get sky stream, all sports channel and Netflix for 37 a month. Call them up just ask specifically for the f1 and its like 15 quid. Did it a couple years back
F1TV is a much nicer sponsor than saudi blood money!!
Congratulations to max and red Bull for another double! 🎉
Wowee
❌ People who claim there's no such thing as the spirit of the rules clearly haven't read the rules!
Article 3.2 of the technical regulations explicitly states the goal of wanting the cars to be able to follow each other more closely and allows rules changes and clarifications to this effect. If the teams find a loophole that makes the racing worse, it will be clamped down.
Rarely do I comment, but this is very entertaining in that you have given a hollow readout that allows you to be both right or wrong in equal measure. If Mercedes are great you are covered; your last line means that if red bull are great, you are also good. So despite salaries various, you’ve no idea 😆 and I’m all for it! 😂
Could you please cover all the teams if you already have people at the track? F1 is more than just the top 5 teams...
People focus on one lap pace like there’s a one lap race haha
Go on lewis
We’re still hearing Dutch National Anthem at least 20 times this year folks
Helllll yeahhh!! 🇳🇱🏆🇳🇱🏆🇳🇱🏆🇳🇱🏆
We may see Max’s bulldozer tactics again too if he has to race.
@@CoffeeKittyGreyI don't think anyone stand a chance against Max in the RB20. Unless there are crashes, reliability issues, or outliers (Singapore) we'll be hearing the Dutch anthem a lot. It's going to be an interesting constructor battle for the 2nd, 3rd and 4th spot though. And the middle of the field also seem to be close to eachother.
Sounds so adolf like. Austrian team...rings a bell
20 dutch. 1 mexican, I monaco, 2 British
Vowles is the perfect man to turn Williams around
Instead of talking about how all cars are going around 1 corner specifically why not take a slowmo video of each car doing so pointing out the differences? Fixed camera position and showing each cars advantages/disadvantages, Since you have track access would be easy to do and interesting addition to your videos.
All F1 footage is copyrighted
It's easy to forget how little running Norris had in testing as both of the biggest issues from the McLaren came just as he was about to do some long runs meaning that he hasn't found his preferred set up/balance in the car & he confirmed as much in his interview. That explains his struggles in FP2. Let's see what he does tomorrow in FP3 as he'll likely iron those issues out.
We learnt Norris isn’t as good as “experts” say.
I’ve always said Oscar’s is the better driver and today has clearly shown it.
Norris is another Stoffel Vandorne another driver Brundle raved about, the next big thing was his opinion.
Don’t forget the expert Brundle also never won a race in F1, something Johnny Herbert did. Buy his opinion wasn’t as valid as Brundle.
In fact the Sky F1 commentators only have Damon Hill as a successful driver but then, he was in a car that was so far ahead of any other in the grid he just had to win a title. However, Frank Williams wasn’t impressed and sacked him.
There just isn’t an excuse for ending the second session last, it isn’t the cars fault as Oscar was in P5 1.8 seconds quicker the Lando.
They are draggy in a straight line
This was a big problem for them last year
They are not on the level of the top three they are behind Aston
@@stevenmoran4060lol, redbull wants you to replace horner as you are more intelligent than him, as redbull wanted to sign lando.
@jb-y1487 you mean the car that was only one tenth of Max today on the long run.
But on his long run Norris was only 3 th behind Max after 4 laps stuck behind Gasly!!! This is very encouraging for Mclarens.
People who know their stuff standing at the corners telling me how every car looks. I'm loving it.
@@travisfubu9053 meh meh meh meh dumbass
lo and behold. Qualifying. Max destroy the 1second gap.
Its going to be a repeat of last year. Same order.
I think Williams will finish 8th
Yes a haas within a tenth of max, and faster than Ferrari. Safe to say Ferrari and redbull haven’t turned up the power yet. And merc have a little bit to test their new suspension under higher loads
Volija bi napokon u 25 god da vidim Williamsa da napravi nešto veliko
F1 tv pro isn’t a thing in the UK, Sky Sports have all the rights and hikes the prices!!
hi
Let’s hope ‘24 brings close clean competitive races!!
My unpopular opinion: 1. Fia should just specify the length, width, height, tyre, ground clearances, weight limits and safety standards for the F1 cars.
2. The cost cap must be slightly extended and two buckets must be done. One for the actual development of the car and the other for year long upgrades. Let the team decide the distribution.
3. Also teams must need to purchase wind tunnel time.
Oh I can't stop imagining the absolute chaos that would unfold in the track.
Sains to merc lets goo