Lithium polymer (LiPo) is a common name for this type of lithium battery, where a polymer gel electrolyte is used. You can also call this particular one lithium iron phosphate (LiFePO4), which refers to the chemical composition of the cathode, and would be the better and more specific name. Dave mixed the two up - putting someone on camera adds a lot of pressure, and it's easy to make mistakes.
Videos of you and Elizabeth are what has convinced my wife that Overlanding isn't as bad as she thought it would be. We look forward to you videos every week!
Have a few questions. 1. How heavy is the all in one box? 2. How much is it? 3. What’s the warranty on it? 4. Can you make a video on how to use the all in one box? Pros and cons as well. Thank you.
@@Blakartman We work with the client to determine the best battery for the application and we can supply the battery with the system builder's kit, a built system or the client can source the battery.
Such a great video Rob. If I'm being honest, I've been intimidated with 12v systems in general and have gotten by with using power banks. I would love one of those all in one kits. Seems brilliant. Anyway, appreciate you taking the time to make this a bit more digestible and help people understand how all of this works! Loving your 4Runner setup.
Excellent video 👏 Very informative on the latest and greatest tech. Well done clean install. Sounds like it meets and exceeds your needs easily so far! I'm the cheap DIY guy but David nailed it with where to absolutely not cut corners like wire gauge, circuit protection, and the details like adhesive marine grade heat shrink.
Great video! This was the first time I've seen likes at 999... well now it's 1K. I've been binge watching your videos, because I've been trying to figure out what would be best for my short skoolie camper conversion. It seems that RedArc is the way to go, along with a minimum 200Ah lithium battery bank. Thank you, Rob and David, for the new knowledge gained and simple explanations of how these systems work. 🤘😎⚡🔋🚌
FYI, LiFePO4 stands for "Lithium-Iron-Phosphate" NOT "Lithium-Polymer-4" (Phosphate molecules comprise one Phosphorous atom plus four Oxygen atoms, hence PO4)
No, but there very much is such a thing as a lithium polymer (LiPo) battery. The 4 doesn't belong, but it's super easy to mix things up on video (like combine LiFePO4 and LiPo and not even notice). I did a video where I called my water heater a 'hot water heater' the entire video, even though I know darn well it doesn't heat hot water. Thankfully neither his mistake or mine took away from the content of the video, so I left both in.
I've got one northstar group 29 agm in my f150 for cranking battery running winch light bar charging tablets phones lights and a 55 qt dual zone fridge and freezer. 4 years now spending about 2 months a year with my truck as base camp. Got 1 fold out 200 watt panel I hook up at camp and it runs everything indefinitely as I stay at camp about 2 weeks at a time without cranking my truck. I've never had a problem at all. I'm sure all these products are good but it's not been complicated for me at all bought my renogy 200 watt panel with controller on black friday for like 200 and battery was 300. 500 total for simple non complicated energy source that's done everything I needed. Battery and panel still easily keeps up with my needs after 4 years and cranks my truck easily after 2 weeks.
I love this. To me this is one of the downsides of having a truck instead of an SUV. With a bed cap I can mostly keep things dry, but it'll never be 100% waterproof. Their system-in-a-box could be a good option for me though.
I would choose a DIY prismatic cell LFP over both battery options presented. Over 300 Ah in the same or slightly smaller footprint than the 100Ah shown at a fraction of the price. Requires a separate low cost BMS.
How do these methods stack up against the Genesis dual battery setup? I ran Genesis on my '13 JKU and it was great. I did have problems with the Optima AGM batteries because it wasn't a daily driver and I didn't keep a charger on them but a battery replacement fixed that.
Does the solar panel have to be hooked up to the back battery or can I have one hooked up to both like could I use a maintainer panel/charger for the front separately and at the same time as the solar panel/ plug-in in the back or would this cost problems trying to get my list set out before I start my build kind of have a setup going just to kind of touch some things as I know nothing with what I'm doing thank you for the time seems like I'm also a little late to this game
How does the Blue Sea add flexibility to your system? The Redarc VM integrates 2 sets of fused blocks that your individual lights, fridge etc can be hooked up to. Are you leveraging the Blue Sea to capture the multiple power points and route them through a single line to the Red Vision fuse area ?
Lot's of helpful information been thinking about a good dual battery system in part to using my cpap at night and the wife using a heated blanket in the cooler climates. Plus with the usual items camp lights, off-road lights, fridge and so on lol.
Just a thought I would love feedback on. Is it possible to just use a deep cycle battery ie x2power by northstar to power all your electronics. Then use solar to recharge that same battery? I understand you would need an inverter for certain accessories and a control box to monitor overcharging with solar. But is that possible? Seems much easier to me.
One point I think I missed in this setup... are you charging your vehicles battery as well, or is this completely isolated for your auxiliary power needs?
great video - thanks for the details! I have read another difference between AGM asd Lifepo4 is that only the AGM can be mounted under the hood not the lifepo4. Is that correct?
Great video. I have the e torque 2.0 jl with no alternator. Instead I have the 48 v lithium pack. Is it still possible to do a redarc dc dc charger and 100ah lithium setup?
Lifetime, capacity, and charging speed. A Jackery charges incredibly slowly, most have less capacity than 100Ah, and last about 10% the cycles a LiFePO4 battery would. Since this video was published, there have been a lot of improvements to battery packs - Anker and Ecoflow both make packs that rival a Battleborn setup.
and all these decades i have been doing it wrong? just two reg car batt wired together using welding cables and a factory stock alt. one set of welding cables going down to my winch. a welding cable to chassis, frame, motor for grounds. and just better grade car wire to the starter. Huge resistance going through the starter relay so no reason to up grade that wire. the winch under a full hard pull, pulled less than the starter. no stereo, just a cb, thinking adding for a ham radio. some lighting. will be adding some this year. so will up grade to a higher out put alt.
There is a reason they don’t do this in 18 wheelers. Look at the batteries and amp hrs..with 4 at 800-1k cca. Then in parrallel gives you 400 amps and it’s still less than that one battery.
Not sure I want to buy from a company rep that doesn't know the difference between Lithium Polymer and Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries. If he gives you the wrong charger, is he going to pay for the damaged battery???
@@chrisw1462 ok, so you don't know what you're talking about. A quick Google search will help you out. If you don't feel like checking, here's a quick summary: LiFePO4 has a polymer electrolyte, and there are 5 other commonly used lithium polymer battery chemistries, including the lithium NMC that you'd find in something like a Jackery. You can quit freaking out though, because he only uses LiFePO4, which is what the vehicle chargers they use are designed for.
listen, im 22, and even i think that using your phone to control your Power, its stupid. one more thing to go wrong. you can spend 10 mintues connecting your bluetooth, or you can open the door and flick a switch.
Lithium Polymer 4? WTH? Li=Lithium.... Fe=Iron..... Po4= Phosphate. Basic chemistry nomenclature. You clearly know your system and it is well. But if you are gonna sell it, you should at least be able to speak the lingo.
Correct...LifeP04 , Lithium Polymer, Lithium Iron Phosphate, Lithium Polymer Gel, ....all different terms referring to tye same thing . . .in this video ...a Battleborn 100ah Lithium Iron Phosphate battery.
Lithium polymer four? Wtf is that?
Lithium (Li) Iron (Fe) Phosphate (PO4)....
Lithium polymer (LiPo) is a common name for this type of lithium battery, where a polymer gel electrolyte is used. You can also call this particular one lithium iron phosphate (LiFePO4), which refers to the chemical composition of the cathode, and would be the better and more specific name. Dave mixed the two up - putting someone on camera adds a lot of pressure, and it's easy to make mistakes.
@@RevereOverland Science teacher right here
Pro trick: you can watch series on Kaldrostream. Me and my gf have been using it for watching all kinds of movies during the lockdown.
@Nova Rowen yup, have been watching on Kaldrostream for since november myself :D
correct sir
Videos of you and Elizabeth are what has convinced my wife that Overlanding isn't as bad as she thought it would be. We look forward to you videos every week!
Thank you! My wife used to hate it, but making everything as comfortable as possible (RTT, heat, and shower) helped!
@@RevereOverland sorry- what is RTT ?
Have a few questions. 1. How heavy is the all in one box? 2. How much is it? 3. What’s the warranty on it? 4. Can you make a video on how to use the all in one box? Pros and cons as well. Thank you.
Nice setup Rob. Great Rig! Overland Power Solutions is happy to be "Powering Your Adventure!" with the Power of Redarc.
Thank you guys! It was great working with you, and I’ll be contacting you for the next build!!
Is the battery included in the all in one kit?
@@Blakartman We work with the client to determine the best battery for the application and we can supply the battery with the system builder's kit, a built system or the client can source the battery.
Such a great video Rob. If I'm being honest, I've been intimidated with 12v systems in general and have gotten by with using power banks. I would love one of those all in one kits. Seems brilliant. Anyway, appreciate you taking the time to make this a bit more digestible and help people understand how all of this works! Loving your 4Runner setup.
Thanks! I was pretty intimidated by the 12v setups too, but it’s actually a little simpler than I first thought.
Excellent video 👏 Very informative on the latest and greatest tech. Well done clean install. Sounds like it meets and exceeds your needs easily so far!
I'm the cheap DIY guy but David nailed it with where to absolutely not cut corners like wire gauge, circuit protection, and the details like adhesive marine grade heat shrink.
Thank! I’m very happy with it, and will definitely go through them again for the next vehicle build.
Great video! This was the first time I've seen likes at 999... well now it's 1K. I've been binge watching your videos, because I've been trying to figure out what would be best for my short skoolie camper conversion. It seems that RedArc is the way to go, along with a minimum 200Ah lithium battery bank. Thank you, Rob and David, for the new knowledge gained and simple explanations of how these systems work. 🤘😎⚡🔋🚌
Good video, just started looking into onboard systems vs my jackery. Helpful - thanks. Doug in Texas
FYI, LiFePO4 stands for "Lithium-Iron-Phosphate" NOT "Lithium-Polymer-4" (Phosphate molecules comprise one Phosphorous atom plus four Oxygen atoms, hence PO4)
Polymer refers to the polymer gel electrolyte, not the cathode chemistry. It’s another name for that type of lithium battery.
No, but there very much is such a thing as a lithium polymer (LiPo) battery. The 4 doesn't belong, but it's super easy to mix things up on video (like combine LiFePO4 and LiPo and not even notice). I did a video where I called my water heater a 'hot water heater' the entire video, even though I know darn well it doesn't heat hot water. Thankfully neither his mistake or mine took away from the content of the video, so I left both in.
Wait, I was just debating this, after hearing he’s in east TN.... now I need this
Excellent presentation, very complete and helpful, thanks!
Thank you for your feeling sharing about the batteries
Excellent video. Really helpful and full of great information. Thanks for taking the time and putting this all together.
Thank you!
I've got one northstar group 29 agm in my f150 for cranking battery running winch light bar charging tablets phones lights and a 55 qt dual zone fridge and freezer. 4 years now spending about 2 months a year with my truck as base camp. Got 1 fold out 200 watt panel I hook up at camp and it runs everything indefinitely as I stay at camp about 2 weeks at a time without cranking my truck. I've never had a problem at all. I'm sure all these products are good but it's not been complicated for me at all bought my renogy 200 watt panel with controller on black friday for like 200 and battery was 300. 500 total for simple non complicated energy source that's done everything I needed. Battery and panel still easily keeps up with my needs after 4 years and cranks my truck easily after 2 weeks.
I love this. To me this is one of the downsides of having a truck instead of an SUV. With a bed cap I can mostly keep things dry, but it'll never be 100% waterproof. Their system-in-a-box could be a good option for me though.
I’m wanting to do a setup on my 06 Cummins. Mines a megacab so it has the additional storage behind the backseats. But we’ll see.
Great info! Thanks for putting this together...always enjoy your videos!!
I would choose a DIY prismatic cell LFP over both battery options presented. Over 300 Ah in the same or slightly smaller footprint than the 100Ah shown at a fraction of the price. Requires a separate low cost BMS.
How do these methods stack up against the Genesis dual battery setup? I ran Genesis on my '13 JKU and it was great. I did have problems with the Optima AGM batteries because it wasn't a daily driver and I didn't keep a charger on them but a battery replacement fixed that.
That looks like such a super clean set up... they do some very nice work
They certainly do!
@@RevereOverland it sure IS ! I’m thinking it’s about ,what, $3000 ?
Does the solar panel have to be hooked up to the back battery or can I have one hooked up to both like could I use a maintainer panel/charger for the front separately and at the same time as the solar panel/ plug-in in the back or would this cost problems trying to get my list set out before I start my build kind of have a setup going just to kind of touch some things as I know nothing with what I'm doing thank you for the time seems like I'm also a little late to this game
How does the Blue Sea add flexibility to your system? The Redarc VM integrates 2 sets of fused blocks that your individual lights, fridge etc can be hooked up to. Are you leveraging the Blue Sea to capture the multiple power points and route them through a single line to the Red Vision fuse area ?
I had the Manager30, not the full RedVision system
I'm not sure what kind of prize would entice me to use Facebook.
This was very informative, thank you for sharing!
Lot's of helpful information been thinking about a good dual battery system in part to using my cpap at night and the wife using a heated blanket in the cooler climates. Plus with the usual items camp lights, off-road lights, fridge and so on lol.
Dual battery will be the way to go if you’re running all of that!
How many AMPs does that come to ?
Just a thought I would love feedback on. Is it possible to just use a deep cycle battery ie x2power by northstar to power all your electronics. Then use solar to recharge that same battery? I understand you would need an inverter for certain accessories and a control box to monitor overcharging with solar. But is that possible? Seems much easier to me.
This is a terrific video, very informative. Thank you.
Hate asking, but what are the two bracelets David has on this video?
One point I think I missed in this setup... are you charging your vehicles battery as well, or is this completely isolated for your auxiliary power needs?
great video - thanks for the details! I have read another difference between AGM asd Lifepo4 is that only the AGM can be mounted under the hood not the lifepo4. Is that correct?
Correct
Holly smokes 😯 😍..... Awesome presentation and explanation 👍👍 👍 Thank you 🤗... I need, I need, I need 🙂 I want I want I want.... Lol 😂
Very good information. Excellent video.
I live in the San Fernando valley in s.ca. can you recommend people to do a respectable inst in a toyota sienna ,xle,van..my room on wheels.,please..
nice video! How did you mount the cutting board to the molle panel?
Great video. I have the e torque 2.0 jl with no alternator. Instead I have the 48 v lithium pack. Is it still possible to do a redarc dc dc charger and 100ah lithium setup?
The e torque system is the alternator
How much is for the box?
Am I understanding all the links correctly that this whole setup is over 2k without install?
What is the benefit of getting this 100ahr battleborn battery versus a Jackery 100ahr battery that already has all of the outlet and screen built in?
Lifetime, capacity, and charging speed. A Jackery charges incredibly slowly, most have less capacity than 100Ah, and last about 10% the cycles a LiFePO4 battery would. Since this video was published, there have been a lot of improvements to battery packs - Anker and Ecoflow both make packs that rival a Battleborn setup.
So does the red arc charge it or does the charger charge it
and all these decades i have been doing it wrong? just two reg car batt wired together using welding cables and a factory stock alt.
one set of welding cables going down to my winch. a welding cable to chassis, frame, motor for grounds. and just better grade car wire to the starter. Huge resistance going through the starter relay so no reason to up grade that wire.
the winch under a full hard pull, pulled less than the starter.
no stereo, just a cb, thinking adding for a ham radio. some lighting. will be adding some this year. so will up grade to a higher out put alt.
What do you do if want a similar system but your not a millionaire?
The msrp on these items makes my stomach hurt
What is the display on your dash?
Woot you and David did great !!!
neat video! great work! :)
$1000 for a battery! Holy moly. AGM battery from orielys is $180...
Asking someone who sells all this stuff what you should buy is a lot like asking the guy at the used car lot what car you should buy.
There is a reason they don’t do this in 18 wheelers. Look at the batteries and amp hrs..with 4 at 800-1k cca. Then in parrallel gives you 400 amps and it’s still less than that one battery.
Correction 4k amps not 400
Great vid, but Redarc to expensive for me.
Not sure I want to buy from a company rep that doesn't know the difference between Lithium Polymer and Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries. If he gives you the wrong charger, is he going to pay for the damaged battery???
LiFePO4 is a lithium polymer
@@RevereOverland Obviously, since you say so. Everyone else and all the sites on the internet MUST be wrong.
Are you suggesting that they’re a liquid filled battery, or do you not know what a polymer is?
@@RevereOverland I believe I said quite clearly that they use a _ceramic_ electrolyte medium.
@@chrisw1462 ok, so you don't know what you're talking about. A quick Google search will help you out. If you don't feel like checking, here's a quick summary: LiFePO4 has a polymer electrolyte, and there are 5 other commonly used lithium polymer battery chemistries, including the lithium NMC that you'd find in something like a Jackery. You can quit freaking out though, because he only uses LiFePO4, which is what the vehicle chargers they use are designed for.
Great video!
You speak English? 😁
every youtube video on this topic is just an advertisement for red arc
Because they're the best... I'm not going to put cheap junk in, am I?
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listen, im 22, and even i think that using your phone to control your Power, its stupid. one more thing to go wrong. you can spend 10 mintues connecting your bluetooth, or you can open the door and flick a switch.
It’s your money, you do what makes you happy! I’m happy monitoring and controlling everything from the comfort and warmth of my sleeping bag.
Can I still win😜
Lithium Polymer 4? WTH?
Li=Lithium....
Fe=Iron.....
Po4= Phosphate.
Basic chemistry nomenclature. You clearly know your system and it is well. But if you are gonna sell it, you should at least be able to speak the lingo.
Lithium polymer refers to the polymer gel electrolyte of the battery, not the chemical makeup of the battery cathode.
Correct...LifeP04 , Lithium Polymer, Lithium Iron Phosphate, Lithium Polymer Gel, ....all different terms referring to tye same thing . . .in this video ...a Battleborn 100ah Lithium Iron Phosphate battery.
this seems like a multi-branded commercial from people that dont know what the hell they are talking about. lithium polymer 4? c'mon... hard to watch
Wow 1k yikes rich folk stuff
Its a disgusting REDARC commercial
Actually, it’s a disgusting(?) Overland Power Solutions commercial. They just happen to use Redarc because it’s the best.
Arre you guys running all your accessories with car off?