Yes, the Benjamin ballistic 145 grain is my favorite of all big boar air guns in the 457 calibrate. I got a video of me getting over 560 FPE because I did the four washer tune with my 457 charger
Great illustration of the power of this rifle. However, based on your fps and fpe statistics it's a little misleading. A 145gr 9mm can generate around 400+ fpe. Almost double what the rifle is doing. The nosler slogs are performing pretty much like solids. Hence, the great penetration . I wish content creators would leave the firearm comparisons out of the equation. It draws the wrong kind of attention to the airgun world and invites more regulation...
very true, course what can a 9mm firearm do with a 125gr solid? my .357 big bore challenger unregulated , does 320fpe with that. and i seriously have not seen any 9mm firearm get 400fpe sir. it would have to be hand loaded hot as hell. and i can only get 378 fpe with a 200gr solid in my big bore. and the 9mm firearm my buddy has can't get more than 300fpe on a good day, so i would really like to know where you are getting your info and what kind of ammunition is doing that 400fpe. cause i call junk till ya do.
@@backyardairguns I get my rattler next week,we’ll see what she can do.Last week i got a benjamin bulldog .357magnum supposed to put out around 275-300fpe.As soon as my company leaves i’ll do a video with the 2 of them.Keep up the great vidoes,enjoyed this one👍🏼
Wonderful video, I’ll contribute to the pool of data you’re doing such a good job of collecting. I did a test of a .308 air rifle vs 124 grn hard cast 9mm hand load. The velocity of the 9mm is very close to 1100 fps (~330 fpe). The air rifle is pushing a 173 grn cast bullet at ~870 fps for close to 290 fpe. The target is made of 3/4” pine boards screwed together in blocks of 5 and then taped together to hold the total of 10 boards. The target was shot at 50 yards. The two projectiles preformed similarly as both as cast lead. The 9mm took several attempts to score a hit. The .308 took one attempt. Not sure how this matches up to your testing but I think these two rifles are close in punching ability, in these tests anyway. As this test was run at 50 yards it does offer some data collected at reasonable distance. The AEA 357 is pretty slick. Need to feed it some heavier lead without the mag and see what she can actually punch out. I’m guessing she’ll easily exceed 300 fpe with the right weigh projectile. Cheers! Can A 30 Cal Air Rifle Match Power of 9MM Pistol Round at 50 Yards? ruclips.net/video/qW-3lHBMMM4/видео.html
Thanks Motor for the positive feedback. I have to get me an Airforce in 308 or larger; I have the Talon P in 25 cal and it's can do about 70 fpe. For my Elite 357 I actually cranked the reg to about 215 from 190 and 200 bar and it shot worst. I was getting close to 300 bar but the accuracy fell off and the 145g slug started to wobble at the higher speed and it did not penetrate as far. Your idea on using a heavier slug might work; I will have to try it out!
@@backyardairguns - had similar experience with lighter slugs in the .308. There is a sweet spot. Go past it and accuracy suffers. Heavy slugs seem to provide power & stay stable.
smiles and the non regulated .357 big bore does get that 320-370fpe energy level, and yes the aea .30cal cgallenger 32inch barrel with a .284dia 162gr fmj slid backwards down the muzzle easily gets over 300fpe. giggles and the fmj can be shot into rubber mulch through steel a couple times before it even starts opening up. because it is moving under 1300fps it wont peel the jacket. ooohhhh armor piercing whooyahh.
@@AIRGUNZ_MILITIA - wow, I’d love to see the 30 cal challenge get over 250 fpe. Granted I’ve not seen a 30 loaded like a muzzle loader with a sub-caliber projectile slide down the barrel! Can you post that for us so we can see how it works out? I’m guessing accuracy with a 28 cal projectile will be suffering somewhat. Then again, anything is possible.
@@motorgearhead it is like this, i have the projectiles. .284 is not that much less than .300 and one of my buddies found that .298 is actually best for that gun. the barrel is 32inches long so that is a lot of time to stabilize using the air spinning through the rifleing around the projectile. but when i drop one down the barrel of my challenger pro and shoot it , it puts out over 200fpe like 208fpe in a challenger pro. i cannot seem to get anyone to sell me a 32 inch challenger .30cal but the math is correct. ifyou watch the videos of the challenger 32inch barrel .30cal, you can figure the math on a projectile that weight, by figuring the velocity of it with 110gr and with 54gr and noteing the base velocity with the 44.75 . and you will get somewhere in the mid 900's and at 920fps you break 300fpe with a 162gr projectile. everyone complaining about that airgun having too much power, they always turn it down, but no one tries to find the weight it needs to become accurate and stable. and btw that projectile is over 2 inches long so the balistic coefficient is so high it is very effin stable the longer it stays in the barrel. now i would suggest not using a moderator just in case. but when my friend in washington a bullet caster, shot one i sent him out of his 32 inch challenger .30 cal. he said it blew his chronograph over and did not read, but hit the bullseye and went through his backstop , across the road and off into the woods. he said that projectile was too dangerous to shoot again out of that rifle. his backstop is rated for a 30.06 firearm and that thing made swiss cheese out of it. so me i am just stating the obvious math. if you can squeeze a projectile that weight into that magwell and into the breach go ahead and try. i will tell ya the limit is a 140gr lead at .298... and that does get very close, but you would have to get the video yourself. i am doing stuff more fun with .51cal these days and i do not intend to try buying a 32inch challenger .30cal anymore. too many times i was thwarted from doing so. have fun with it. think about the video with the 110grain lead, how fast was that you find it and tell me. how much more weight can go in that breach and still be over 920fps. only 30-35gr needed. because i am pretty sure 162gr is too much even though the energy level of the rifle is more than that. way more than that. i would postulate that if a .298 or .299 dia projectile could be found the maximum length that can fit into the breach. you would be over 300fpe and still be above the threshhold of the rifles energy level. the energy level of a airgun is equal to the weight in grains that the air gun can spit at 671fps. that is the foot pounds of energy that gun can exibit. as you increase velocity the weight goes down , but the energy does not. untill you get past 922fps and then you start losing energy as you increase weight and have to suppliment with more energy. of course this is balistic science. and does not give a crap about accuracy. course the pellet experts would say a pellet flys best between 880fps and 920fps, hmmm i wonder why. but in that air rifle, you are an idiot if you shoot pellets, that is a slug gun. just like my .357 big bore, but yuou can watch terry's video on it and see for yourself the energy of the bullpup model with a 124g . he gets 1078fps. so me stating 1076fps with a 125gr solid when i have a 600cc tank instead of the 500cc tank the bullpup has. is conservative. another slug gun. and they gave me 800pellets with it when i bought it. effin useless 81gr pellets jsb and vortex strikes. they are still in the tins they came in unopened. course when i get the T9 i will need them in that pistol. smiles. enjoy yourself chasing that energy in the .30cal. you really need to just spend the 200 bucks and get a custom mold for .298dia for that rifle. you might buy some 130gr .308 lead and resize it for starters to find the weight you need. or upto a 140gr but it has to be lead and no jacket cause the jacket will catch on the rifleing. that is why i used fmj and 162gr so it would not get caught on the rifleing, but slide along it like a rollercoaster along the rails untill the air picked it up and spun it and that was the tale of the bullet i dubbed , "the oh jesus bullet" smiles. because it does stuff it shouldn't like go through steel and not peel away its jacket. acts like an armor piercing round at anything less than 1300fps, and it cannot get there in an air gun. i put one through a steel house door 3 times and the jacket just barely started peeling at the tip. i set it to the side and told myself , that one is gonna be for a home invader. just drop it down the muzzle after cocking, and hear the thunk and pull the trigger. cause i think it mighe open up the next time it is shot. mind ya with a challenger pro at 130fpe energy level that makes it get a velocity of 821 and that put the energy of the projectile at around 233fpe. in a challenger pro. so just think the difference between challenger pro .30cal and challenger 32inch .30cal. good day.
There is a huge difference in the Challenger Bullpup and the Challenger Elite. The Elite is on another lever. Check out my video on the Elite in 457. I have an Element Max in 457 on the way and a review coming soon.
Hello question, does the 45 caliber have the same quality. And could you get this gun with a longbarrel, would this be a gun for distance shooting like 100 yards or more.
I only have experience with the 35 cal, but I believe the 45 cal would have the same quality. 30 inch is the max barrel length. The rifles shoots 3 inch groups at 100 yards. See this video for long range footage of this rifle... ruclips.net/video/fyRTGBFH0sY/видео.html
Wow this thing is putting it down! Are the regulators the same as the new .30/.357 Long barrels? Also what scope are you using? Trying to find one with moa reticles without breaking the bank but still good optics.
Hi Randy. The reg on the AEA Challenger Elite series are externally adjustable which is really a great feature. The 30 and 357 Cal Long Barrel rifles have internal reg that have to be degassed and tank removed to adjust. The scope I used in this video was the Bushnell ED Match Pro. It's a very solid scope with great ED glass. I think it's about $700. Thanks for watching!
Take a look at the graph I put up at 2:48 in the video. Below is the shot string from the first 10 shots using the 145g slug. I think 10 shots (one mag) is about where I would want to refill the air or tether to a tank. Shot # Speed Energy 1 NA NA 2 919 272 3 905 264 4 911 267 5 901 261 6 899 260 7 896 258 8 889 254 9 884 252 10 872 245
No. I used the Benjamin Ballistic Tip 145g Slugs in the 357 Elite. I used the Alco bullets in the MCAR video I released earlier this week. Here are the BC for all the 457 I shot: MCAR Slug Test MCAR Reg set at 3,200 PSI Brand Weight FPS Spread Standard Devation True BC FPE NSA 196 1060 13 3.6 0.138 489 Seneca 232 1007 25 8.2 0.102 523 NSA 265 961 9 2.5 0.261 544 Griffin 250 982 38 11 0.286 535 Alco 275 946 8 3.1 0.342 547 NSA 298 926 6 2.3 0.385 568 Griffin 300 922 10 3.8 0.284 566 Alco 320 883 12 4.5 0.413 554 BinTac 337 884 12 5.9 0.259 585 Seneca 350 884 16 6.5 NA 607
@@backyardairguns thanks buddy. I see the Alco 275 grain "Lancer". I will plug that into my Pard DS35 scope and see if that works. Thanks again. Wife has subscribed to your channel also. She really likes the detailed description of each airgun and type of ammo used.
@@backyardairguns the bc on the Alco 275 is .342? On the Alco site it says .674. That is what I inputted into my bc calculator. That is probably why I'm off at longer ranges. I'm going to plug in .342 tomorrow. Thanks for the info.
My BC results are from shots fired using the MCAR and FX True Ballistic chronograph. The .674 BC is higher than a 308 rimfire bullet... plug in my .342 number and see what happens. :-)
Just found out about your channel and subbed. I have the 30/32” challenger bullpup and it’s a beast itself. I think it’s time for a 357 or 457 to go along with the 30 and 50
Thanks for the subscribe. The Elite 357 is an elephant killer. Most power I've ever seen in an air rifle. I have part 2 of the video coming out tomorrow. The Pellet Shop is sending me the 25 cal Bullpup on Friday to review.
@@backyardairguns I appreciate that!! I just moved back to the area I prospect in so hopefully spring will bring the panning videos back with some success
@@backyardairguns I’m also interested in the.25 video! I would say it’s my favorite even though I have been messing around with the 30 a lot lately I’ll always have a 25 nearby
I've got the Challenger shrouded 24 inch 30 cal and it's a beast as well! It's a great rifle and the only thing it needs is a trigger job to make it complete. It even came with the lighter cocking bolt spring so it's super easy to cycle pellets and slugs.😊
@@backyardairguns thank you I watch your channel alot your very thorough and make great vids I'm new to air guns but I'm getting all my stuff together and would like to try shooting long range i pre ordered a mcar so we'll see
i can tell ya what .357 can beat both the glock and the challenger elite .357 it is my AEA challenger big bore.357 w side leaver standard. it has a 600cc tank, and can sling 125gr solid at 1076 fps or around 320fpe, and upto 378fpe with a 200gr solid. and it uses those same magazines you got there that max out at 155grain hollowpoint.and will hold ten of em. and it does not get down to the energy level of that elite untill the 9th shot. on a 3800psi fill-4000psi fill. and that is that. smiles. and i wouldn't trade ya for nothing. i have the .51cal challenger elite smiles. but i love even more than both of those, my heavily modded , hp max .51cal regulated ,500cc tank pump action airgun, it gives me 18 shots at 350fpe. love it.
Isn't that kind of the same rifle? :-) 320 FPE out of a 357 air rifle is crazy (in a good way). Your comments are very interesting to read. Thanks for watching and following.
@@backyardairguns well yours is regulated, mine, not, and i got the standard vwersion unregulated big bore. that is why it gets so much energy. you lose 20% of your energy when you regulate. but essentially yup similar airgun, mine has a 41mm tank yours has the 52mm that and the bullpup stock on yours is the only sifferences. smiles have you figured out how to get that spare mag into the rear hole in the stock yet? gotta kinda put it half in at an angle and then straighten it out .smiles i cut a similar hole in my longstock to put a mag into.
This was Part 2 of the video that focused on Power and Penetration for the Elite 357. Part 1 shows the accuracy at the range at 50 and 100 yards. The link is... ruclips.net/video/fyRTGBFH0sY/видео.html
I have the M25 357cal, the only thing i have changed is a reg. Huma air that i have set to 150bar max. It comes out with slug 105.5grains - 245.67jules - 878.1fps - and 180fpe. The wood you hit 6 inches, is leucoxyl very light and very soft wood for drilling. I have made a 12.5 cm drilling from this wood, try to penetrate 6inches of pine wood or oak wood ! As for the 16cauge steel heet, i have pierced from 12 yards galvanized sheet metal 2mm. Those with the M25 357cal. With a purchase price 4 times lower than the Elite Challenger ! Enter my channel and see what i write for you ! Greetings from Greece👋.
I am not familiar with the M25. I did do some research on it and I watch some of your videos. The rifle looks interesting. We love all fans from Greece. I subscribed to your channel. :-)
@@backyardairguns Thanks mate, i also asmire the Aea Challenger Big 9mm (without reg), it is one of the stronger pcp and my favorite rifle! That's why i wrote to you, i wanted to see this power to hit something harder than leukoxyl and 1.5mm steel sheet wich i also pierce with the M25 9mm. "But for god's sake i'm not comparing it to the Aea Challenger big 9mm! It has twice the power of mine😅. Although it is made, but for its money it is very reliable, strong and accurate rifle. I also like the videos you make, i saw the one comparing the glock 9mm. Unfortunately in Greece i live in a city and the shots i shoot are in my closed space, every shot i shoot can be heard by the neighbors around me, and this is serious because 9mm is prohibited even at the shooting range in Greece. So let's do a pancture test and demostrate strenght at a close distance of 12yards. I also bought it for personal self-defence at home. Today i will also upload a video with drilling in Swedish wood, very hard! Thank you very much for your reply, i appreciate it! You got +1 subscriber. Keep up the good work !!! Greetings from Greece👋.
Think of how good it would be if you didnt SET IT UP TO FAIL. This rifle shoots 258gr .50 cal at nearly 1000fps and 500fpe. Would love to hear any logical reason as to why you would turn the reg down so low to shoot that tiny pellet at 900fps. It can throw that 150gr slug down range at 1200 or 1300fps accurately. So.....what gives? Are you intentionally trying to make it lose???
Jedd, Let me set the record straight. You are comparing a 50 cal Elite to my 35 cal Elite. The AEA users manual for this rifle states that the energy for the 35 cal is 250 fpe. In my video, I had the rifle cranked up and was getting 270+ fpe. So I don't want to hear I had the rifle "SET IT UP TO FAIL". If you have truly watched my videos, you would know I am a huge supporter of AEA.
Hi Brandon, I could remove your comments from view. But, I'm gong to take the high road here, and leave your comments up. I welcome all feedback, both positive and negative. My videos help people make choices about which air rifles to use or purchase. Nobody wants our air guns regulated (other than some politicians). The air gun field is a growing and exciting sport witch I'm dedicated to bringing to people that watch my videos. My advice for you is life is too short for Hate, you should stop watching RUclips channels you hate. :-) Mike
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Yes, the Benjamin ballistic 145 grain is my favorite of all big boar air guns in the 457 calibrate. I got a video of me getting over 560 FPE because I did the four washer tune with my 457 charger
560 FPE is crazy 🤪
Thanks for answering! I think I buy the 457
My 457 bullpup with the factory valve and my custom upgrades got over 600 FPE and with the max power valve did over 700 FPE.
We need to chat. I want to understand the power upgrades you have done to this rifle. Your videos are da Bomb!
Excellent information on video once again sir 😁💯 it's got me wanting one really bad I wish they made a 30 caliber elite!!!
Another great test done by you , thank you
Great illustration of the power of this rifle. However, based on your fps and fpe statistics it's a little misleading. A 145gr 9mm can generate around 400+ fpe. Almost double what the rifle is doing. The nosler slogs are performing pretty much like solids. Hence, the great penetration . I wish content creators would leave the firearm comparisons out of the equation. It draws the wrong kind of attention to the airgun world and invites more regulation...
very true,
course what can a 9mm firearm do with a 125gr solid?
my .357 big bore challenger unregulated , does 320fpe with that.
and i seriously have not seen any 9mm firearm get 400fpe sir.
it would have to be hand loaded hot as hell.
and i can only get 378 fpe with a 200gr solid in my big bore.
and the 9mm firearm my buddy has can't get more than 300fpe on a good day, so i would really like to know where you are getting your info and what kind of ammunition is doing that 400fpe.
cause i call junk till ya do.
Holy crap! Nice tripod! Great joke at the end 😅
Thanks Nate. That's my competition Induro tripod. Most people don't make it to the end of my videos for the jokes. :-)
First off,AMAZING results on that first test…all of them really!!I think the rattler 357 could match those results for sure
Thanks Faraci. The AEA Elite 357 is a beast of a rifle. I don't have a Rattler 357, so I will wait on someone to reproduce my test with the Rattler. 🙂
@@backyardairguns I get my rattler next week,we’ll see what she can do.Last week i got a benjamin bulldog .357magnum supposed to put out around 275-300fpe.As soon as my company leaves i’ll do a video with the 2 of them.Keep up the great vidoes,enjoyed this one👍🏼
Looking forward to your test with the Rattler! 🙂
Very impressive indeed .
The rifles is a tank!
Wow wow 👌.
🙂 Thanks!
Wonderful video, I’ll contribute to the pool of data you’re doing such a good job of collecting. I did a test of a .308 air rifle vs 124 grn hard cast 9mm hand load. The velocity of the 9mm is very close to 1100 fps (~330 fpe). The air rifle is pushing a 173 grn cast bullet at ~870 fps for close to 290 fpe. The target is made of 3/4” pine boards screwed together in blocks of 5 and then taped together to hold the total of 10 boards. The target was shot at 50 yards. The two projectiles preformed similarly as both as cast lead. The 9mm took several attempts to score a hit. The .308 took one attempt. Not sure how this matches up to your testing but I think these two rifles are close in punching ability, in these tests anyway. As this test was run at 50 yards it does offer some data collected at reasonable distance. The AEA 357 is pretty slick. Need to feed it some heavier lead without the mag and see what she can actually punch out. I’m guessing she’ll easily exceed 300 fpe with the right weigh projectile.
Cheers!
Can A 30 Cal Air Rifle Match Power of 9MM Pistol Round at 50 Yards?
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Thanks Motor for the positive feedback. I have to get me an Airforce in 308 or larger; I have the Talon P in 25 cal and it's can do about 70 fpe. For my Elite 357 I actually cranked the reg to about 215 from 190 and 200 bar and it shot worst. I was getting close to 300 bar but the accuracy fell off and the 145g slug started to wobble at the higher speed and it did not penetrate as far. Your idea on using a heavier slug might work; I will have to try it out!
@@backyardairguns - had similar experience with lighter slugs in the .308. There is a sweet spot. Go past it and accuracy suffers. Heavy slugs seem to provide power & stay stable.
smiles and the non regulated .357 big bore does get that 320-370fpe energy level,
and yes the aea .30cal cgallenger 32inch barrel with a .284dia 162gr fmj slid backwards down the muzzle easily gets over 300fpe. giggles and the fmj can be shot into rubber mulch through steel a couple times before it even starts opening up.
because it is moving under 1300fps it wont peel the jacket. ooohhhh armor piercing whooyahh.
@@AIRGUNZ_MILITIA - wow, I’d love to see the 30 cal challenge get over 250 fpe. Granted I’ve not seen a 30 loaded like a muzzle loader with a sub-caliber projectile slide down the barrel! Can you post that for us so we can see how it works out? I’m guessing accuracy with a 28 cal projectile will be suffering somewhat. Then again, anything is possible.
@@motorgearhead it is like this, i have the projectiles.
.284 is not that much less than .300 and one of my buddies found that .298 is actually best for that gun.
the barrel is 32inches long so that is a lot of time to stabilize using the air spinning through the rifleing around the projectile.
but when i drop one down the barrel of my challenger pro and shoot it , it puts out over 200fpe like 208fpe in a challenger pro.
i cannot seem to get anyone to sell me a 32 inch challenger .30cal
but the math is correct. ifyou watch the videos of the challenger 32inch barrel .30cal, you can figure the math on a projectile that weight, by figuring the velocity of it with 110gr and with 54gr and noteing the base velocity with the 44.75 . and you will get somewhere in the mid 900's and at 920fps you break 300fpe with a 162gr projectile.
everyone complaining about that airgun having too much power, they always turn it down, but no one tries to find the weight it needs to become accurate and stable.
and btw that projectile is over 2 inches long so the balistic coefficient is so high it is very effin stable the longer it stays in the barrel.
now i would suggest not using a moderator just in case. but when my friend in washington a bullet caster, shot one i sent him out of his 32 inch challenger .30 cal. he said it blew his chronograph over and did not read, but hit the bullseye and went through his backstop , across the road and off into the woods.
he said that projectile was too dangerous to shoot again out of that rifle.
his backstop is rated for a 30.06 firearm
and that thing made swiss cheese out of it.
so me i am just stating the obvious math.
if you can squeeze a projectile that weight into that magwell and into the breach go ahead and try. i will tell ya the limit is a 140gr lead at .298...
and that does get very close, but you would have to get the video yourself.
i am doing stuff more fun with .51cal these days and i do not intend to try buying a 32inch challenger .30cal anymore. too many times i was thwarted from doing so.
have fun with it.
think about the video with the 110grain lead, how fast was that you find it and tell me.
how much more weight can go in that breach and still be over 920fps.
only 30-35gr needed. because i am pretty sure 162gr is too much even though the energy level of the rifle is more than that. way more than that.
i would postulate that if a .298 or .299 dia projectile could be found the maximum length that can fit into the breach. you would be over 300fpe and still be above the threshhold of the rifles energy level.
the energy level of a airgun is equal to the weight in grains that the air gun can spit at 671fps.
that is the foot pounds of energy that gun can exibit.
as you increase velocity the weight goes down , but the energy does not. untill you get past 922fps and then you start losing energy as you increase weight and have to suppliment with more energy.
of course this is balistic science.
and does not give a crap about accuracy.
course the pellet experts would say a pellet flys best between 880fps and 920fps, hmmm i wonder why.
but in that air rifle, you are an idiot if you shoot pellets, that is a slug gun.
just like my .357 big bore, but yuou can watch terry's video on it and see for yourself the energy of the bullpup model with a 124g . he gets 1078fps. so me stating 1076fps with a 125gr solid when i have a 600cc tank instead of the 500cc tank the bullpup has. is conservative.
another slug gun. and they gave me 800pellets with it when i bought it. effin useless 81gr pellets jsb and vortex strikes. they are still in the tins they came in unopened.
course when i get the T9 i will need them in that pistol.
smiles. enjoy yourself chasing that energy in the .30cal.
you really need to just spend the 200 bucks and get a custom mold for .298dia for that rifle. you might buy some 130gr .308 lead and resize it for starters to find the weight you need. or upto a 140gr but it has to be lead and no jacket cause the jacket will catch on the rifleing. that is why i used fmj and 162gr so it would not get caught on the rifleing, but slide along it like a rollercoaster along the rails untill the air picked it up and spun it and that was the tale of the bullet i dubbed , "the oh jesus bullet"
smiles. because it does stuff it shouldn't like go through steel and not peel away its jacket.
acts like an armor piercing round at anything less than 1300fps, and it cannot get there in an air gun.
i put one through a steel house door 3 times and the jacket just barely started peeling at the tip.
i set it to the side and told myself , that one is gonna be for a home invader. just drop it down the muzzle after cocking, and hear the thunk and pull the trigger.
cause i think it mighe open up the next time it is shot.
mind ya with a challenger pro at 130fpe energy level that makes it get a velocity of 821 and that put the energy of the projectile at around 233fpe. in a challenger pro.
so just think the difference between challenger pro .30cal and challenger 32inch .30cal.
good day.
Awesome! I think it'd take just about whatever you point it at!
Agree! This rifle would take down an elephant. :-)
I actually bought the . 357 Challenger Bullpup and it's a little disappointing , however , I LOVE my Element Max . 510 .
There is a huge difference in the Challenger Bullpup and the Challenger Elite. The Elite is on another lever. Check out my video on the Elite in 457. I have an Element Max in 457 on the way and a review coming soon.
@backyardairguns No doubt about that.
Wow enjoyed the video. That will be my next gun
Thanks William. It's a beast. If you buy it at The Pellet Shop, tell them Mike sent you!
Awesome video! That is an amazing gun
Another good reveiw
Thanks Steve!
I have a airforce texan it shoots a 190 grain pellet at around 950 fps I enjoyed your video on that it wasn't a 45or50 the 357 is a good round
I want a big bore Airforce Texan. I have a new Challenger Elite in 45 Cal that I will be doing a review video on soon.
Hello question, does the 45 caliber have the same quality. And could you get this gun with a longbarrel, would this be a gun for distance shooting like 100 yards or more.
I only have experience with the 35 cal, but I believe the 45 cal would have the same quality. 30 inch is the max barrel length. The rifles shoots 3 inch groups at 100 yards. See this video for long range footage of this rifle...
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Nice job great video keep up the good work. Hey can you swap out barrels to change the calibre just like the airforce Texan
I'm going say No... because I've never seen where you can purchase Elite barrel only kits. I have a video coming out soon on this rifle in 457 cal.
@@backyardairguns ok I will stick with my airforce Texan
What a beast of an airgun. Or should i say elephant gun! Lol😂
I was going to go with either elephants or zombies. 🙂
Incredible 👍👍👍
Thanks for watching!
Wow the fact that those slugs didn't drop any is amazing...how many yards away
50 Yards on the plate steel and 10 yards on the box and 8 inch wood test.
Wow this thing is putting it down! Are the regulators the same as the new .30/.357 Long barrels? Also what scope are you using? Trying to find one with moa reticles without breaking the bank but still good optics.
Hi Randy. The reg on the AEA Challenger Elite series are externally adjustable which is really a great feature. The 30 and 357 Cal Long Barrel rifles have internal reg that have to be degassed and tank removed to adjust. The scope I used in this video was the Bushnell ED Match Pro. It's a very solid scope with great ED glass. I think it's about $700. Thanks for watching!
@backyardairguns thx so much for the info! Very interesting. Very cool about the Bushnell scope as I have been looking at Bushnell. Great channel!
Looks like its dropping off the reg after 6 shots. They advertised 10+ with 140 grain. Interesting
Take a look at the graph I put up at 2:48 in the video. Below is the shot string from the first 10 shots using the 145g slug. I think 10 shots (one mag) is about where I would want to refill the air or tether to a tank.
Shot # Speed Energy
1 NA NA
2 919 272
3 905 264
4 911 267
5 901 261
6 899 260
7 896 258
8 889 254
9 884 252
10 872 245
Didn't you shoot the alco bullets in a challenger elite. .457? Can't find it. What is the true bc on the .45 caliber 275grain Lancer?
No. I used the Benjamin Ballistic Tip 145g Slugs in the 357 Elite. I used the Alco bullets in the MCAR video I released earlier this week. Here are the BC for all the 457 I shot:
MCAR Slug Test
MCAR Reg set at 3,200 PSI
Brand Weight FPS Spread Standard Devation True BC FPE
NSA 196 1060 13 3.6 0.138 489
Seneca 232 1007 25 8.2 0.102 523
NSA 265 961 9 2.5 0.261 544
Griffin 250 982 38 11 0.286 535
Alco 275 946 8 3.1 0.342 547
NSA 298 926 6 2.3 0.385 568
Griffin 300 922 10 3.8 0.284 566
Alco 320 883 12 4.5 0.413 554
BinTac 337 884 12 5.9 0.259 585
Seneca 350 884 16 6.5 NA 607
@@backyardairguns thanks buddy. I see the Alco 275 grain "Lancer". I will plug that into my Pard DS35 scope and see if that works. Thanks again. Wife has subscribed to your channel also. She really likes the detailed description of each airgun and type of ammo used.
@@backyardairguns the bc on the Alco 275 is .342? On the Alco site it says .674. That is what I inputted into my bc calculator. That is probably why I'm off at longer ranges. I'm going to plug in .342 tomorrow. Thanks for the info.
We are thrilled to have Ms Bama on the team. :-)
My BC results are from shots fired using the MCAR and FX True Ballistic chronograph. The .674 BC is higher than a 308 rimfire bullet... plug in my .342 number and see what happens. :-)
Just found out about your channel and subbed. I have the 30/32” challenger bullpup and it’s a beast itself. I think it’s time for a 357 or 457 to go along with the 30 and 50
Thanks for the subscribe. The Elite 357 is an elephant killer. Most power I've ever seen in an air rifle. I have part 2 of the video coming out tomorrow. The Pellet Shop is sending me the 25 cal Bullpup on Friday to review.
I subscribed to your channel. You caught my attention with "panning for yellow rocks".
@@backyardairguns I appreciate that!! I just moved back to the area I prospect in so hopefully spring will bring the panning videos back with some success
@@backyardairguns I’m also interested in the.25 video! I would say it’s my favorite even though I have been messing around with the 30 a lot lately I’ll always have a 25 nearby
I've got the Challenger shrouded 24 inch 30 cal and it's a beast as well! It's a great rifle and the only thing it needs is a trigger job to make it complete. It even came with the lighter cocking bolt spring so it's super easy to cycle pellets and slugs.😊
Where did you get your tripod
It is an Induro tripod I bought off eBay a couple a years ago. Its a heavy duty and great tripod.
@@backyardairguns thank you I watch your channel alot your very thorough and make great vids I'm new to air guns but I'm getting all my stuff together and would like to try shooting long range i pre ordered a mcar so we'll see
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These can only be shipped to the United States.
How many shots do you get out of a fill?
If I remember, I get about 12 to 15 at full power. I usually tether it to tank when I take it to the range.
@@backyardairguns TY....
i can tell ya what .357 can beat both the glock and the challenger elite .357
it is my AEA challenger big bore.357 w side leaver standard.
it has a 600cc tank, and can sling 125gr solid at 1076 fps or around 320fpe, and upto 378fpe with a 200gr solid. and it uses those same magazines you got there that max out at 155grain hollowpoint.and will hold ten of em.
and it does not get down to the energy level of that elite untill the 9th shot. on a 3800psi fill-4000psi fill.
and that is that.
smiles. and i wouldn't trade ya for nothing.
i have the .51cal challenger elite smiles.
but i love even more than both of those, my heavily modded , hp max .51cal regulated ,500cc tank pump action airgun,
it gives me 18 shots at 350fpe.
love it.
Isn't that kind of the same rifle? :-)
320 FPE out of a 357 air rifle is crazy (in a good way). Your comments are very interesting to read. Thanks for watching and following.
@@backyardairguns well yours is regulated, mine, not, and i got the standard vwersion unregulated big bore.
that is why it gets so much energy.
you lose 20% of your energy when you regulate.
but essentially yup similar airgun, mine has a 41mm tank yours has the 52mm
that and the bullpup stock on yours is the only sifferences.
smiles have you figured out how to get that spare mag into the rear hole in the stock yet?
gotta kinda put it half in at an angle and then straighten it out .smiles
i cut a similar hole in my longstock to put a mag into.
How many 4by4 will it go through?
two cedar 4x4s
Unlike the Glock it can be on my doorstep by Thursday with no paperwork 🎉
Agree :-)
one question can a silencer be on this beast
No. The AEA Elite can not be silenced. A DonnyFL will take it from about 120db to 110db. :-)
I kind of wonder about accuracy rather than 100 diff power tests.
This was Part 2 of the video that focused on Power and Penetration for the Elite 357. Part 1 shows the accuracy at the range at 50 and 100 yards. The link is...
ruclips.net/video/fyRTGBFH0sY/видео.html
I have the M25 357cal, the only thing i have changed is a reg. Huma air that i have set to 150bar max. It comes out with slug 105.5grains - 245.67jules - 878.1fps - and 180fpe. The wood you hit 6 inches, is leucoxyl very light and very soft wood for drilling. I have made a 12.5 cm drilling from this wood, try to penetrate 6inches of pine wood or oak wood ! As for the 16cauge steel heet, i have pierced from 12 yards galvanized sheet metal 2mm. Those with the M25 357cal. With a purchase price 4 times lower than the Elite Challenger ! Enter my channel and see what i write for you ! Greetings from Greece👋.
I am not familiar with the M25. I did do some research on it and I watch some of your videos. The rifle looks interesting. We love all fans from Greece. I subscribed to your channel. :-)
@@backyardairguns Thanks mate, i also asmire the Aea Challenger Big 9mm (without reg), it is one of the stronger pcp and my favorite rifle! That's why i wrote to you, i wanted to see this power to hit something harder than leukoxyl and 1.5mm steel sheet wich i also pierce with the M25 9mm. "But for god's sake i'm not comparing it to the Aea Challenger big 9mm! It has twice the power of mine😅. Although it is made, but for its money it is very reliable, strong and accurate rifle. I also like the videos you make, i saw the one comparing the glock 9mm. Unfortunately in Greece i live in a city and the shots i shoot are in my closed space, every shot i shoot can be heard by the neighbors around me, and this is serious because 9mm is prohibited even at the shooting range in Greece. So let's do a pancture test and demostrate strenght at a close distance of 12yards. I also bought it for personal self-defence at home. Today i will also upload a video with drilling in Swedish wood, very hard! Thank you very much for your reply, i appreciate it! You got +1 subscriber. Keep up the good work !!! Greetings from Greece👋.
Plain steel, not plate steel, = sheetmetal, still impressive...
I stand corrected. :-)
I Googled this and plate steel is used for steel plate that is 1/4 inch or more and less than 1/4 inch is called sheet steel.
Is it me, or do I see a 600cc air tank upgrade?
You know it. 😀
@@backyardairguns lol, I'd do it if my Ronin would fit. It might could but I couldn't tell by the angle in this video.
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Thanks!
Aeas are super unreliable and now expensive...I heard this model has mag feeding problems😢
I have several AEA rifles and they are all very reliable and very powerful.
@@backyardairguns That is not the same feedback from 90% in all the comment sections
Think of how good it would be if you didnt SET IT UP TO FAIL. This rifle shoots 258gr .50 cal at nearly 1000fps and 500fpe. Would love to hear any logical reason as to why you would turn the reg down so low to shoot that tiny pellet at 900fps. It can throw that 150gr slug down range at 1200 or 1300fps accurately. So.....what gives? Are you intentionally trying to make it lose???
Jedd, Let me set the record straight. You are comparing a 50 cal Elite to my 35 cal Elite. The AEA users manual for this rifle states that the energy for the 35 cal is 250 fpe. In my video, I had the rifle cranked up and was getting 270+ fpe. So I don't want to hear I had the rifle "SET IT UP TO FAIL". If you have truly watched my videos, you would know I am a huge supporter of AEA.
Hate these videos. Your drawing the wrong kind of attention to airguns!!! Think bout it. Your begging for regulations where they dont belong.
Hi Brandon, I could remove your comments from view. But, I'm gong to take the high road here, and leave your comments up. I welcome all feedback, both positive and negative. My videos help people make choices about which air rifles to use or purchase. Nobody wants our air guns regulated (other than some politicians). The air gun field is a growing and exciting sport witch I'm dedicated to bringing to people that watch my videos.
My advice for you is life is too short for Hate, you should stop watching RUclips channels you hate. :-)
Mike