Nah they actually have at least good reason for this, the anime was trailing not far behind the manga which was still not finished. Demon slayer already ended, their only excuse is that they are releasing like a 3 part movie and they needed to give something out.
@@snarpking it is a very good reason in my opinion, theres even a clip in gintama about anime productions: ruclips.net/video/a4S9NuI6NKo/видео.htmlsi=1rWuW_008uMpTV_S . Never said the outcome was great, i dislike filler as much as the next guy, all im saying is that the reason is understandable at the very least. You have to remember, these manga's are being worked on by several people, sometimes a couple and theres nothing an anime studio could do about it other than patiently wait.
yeah but one piece KIND OF has to do it, i mean sure they could take breaks, but i dont think their schedule allows it, so they're forced to stretch the episodes out in order to not catch up to the manga. Demon slayer manga is finished, the only reason they stretched it out was literally just to milk it
I won't say Vinland saga is bad, but it's definitely not something that I'd enjoy as it doesn't have enough action for me which makes sense since the author doesn't like violence or something like that.
@@anonymouscommentor411 season 1 was pretty much all action but the author wanted to go the character developments and he did not disappoint in that area
I binged the whole thing yesterday after failing to get through the first episode on release. I can't imagine how underwhelming watching it weekly would've been
didnt even know there was a new season, and idk if its a good thing they stretched it out or not since the final arc in the manga was super rushed and ended abruptly
How does it matter that you, some random guy, didn't hear anything? Are you stupid or something, how does that define a quality of a show? Touch some grass little fella and step out of the twitter mentality.
I wouldnt call it a 3/10 but the pacing compared to other seasons was really bad, they turned 9 chapters into 8 episodes, 2 of whoch were double length, whereas season 2 and 3 turned about 30 chapters into 10 episodes
@@onizukasensei5321 boring thing, thats for sure. Literally had to skip in between episodes to watch the entire season because of how boring and cringe it was.
@@bayc3715 It's one of those arcs that serves to build up the next arc, when watched back to back once the infinity castle movies come out it would work better, but on its own its weak as hell.
The muzan walk was never stretched out because they needed to fill in the episode. The episode itself was made longer than usual and i'm pretty sure it was for the walk. It was also an after credit scene. They could have done a normal length episode if they wanted.
Exactly Charlie also said this season was 5 chapters stretched out but the pacing was still good because they didn’t just go off 5 chapters but also added 50% anime original content
@@amiralibazdar3206the anime original content gave the characters some depth and screen time. The original manga just skipped all the hashira and then when infinity castle comes up, who cares when they die.
@@yogainstructor4437 This is bullshit, the original manga gave the Hashira the same depth and screentime as the anime. Really the only Hashira that the anime gave anime original content to were Giyuu, Muichiro, and Tengen (who doesn't even matter anymore).
I'm kinda glad they gave the director of S1 only 12 episodes. The vibe of the worlds in the manga and anime is really different, and it didn't hit for me at all.
@@bencegergohocz5988 Yea i still can't believe it, the art style clicked so much for me, i loved the cinematic look it had, it fit well imo specially when you know fujimoto is into that kind of shit.
When I first read/watched the part that's been adapted I think I'd give it an 8, which is still pretty good, but CSM started to enter my top 3 manga only after the anime stopped lol. I feel like the season ended in a way that made sense, but it was really stupid to have only 12 when mappa knew how much hype was around it
I don't think it's fair to say. It's the same situation with Steins Gate. You can't have an amazing moments that happens in 2nd parts of both shows, without great build up.
As someone who enjoyed season 4, I totally understand why people don't like it. "Meandering" is definitely a good word to describe it, but I generally enjoyed some of the character moments we got, even if they are pretty silly like the paper airplane tournament. But stuff like Himejima's backstory and the lead-up to the Infinity Castle, which were the best parts of the arc in the manga, were done really well here, much like the rest of the adaptation so far. Also Muzan's 5 minute walk across Ubuyashiki's yard was hilarious, and they played it twice. Craziest take was Ninja Kamui being a 7, that show is so nothing and I say that as a fan of ninjas and mechs. This is the first I've heard of AI art being used in the show, though I wouldn't be surprised, since the writing feels like ChatGPT generated most of it.
I liked the arc tbh. It developed the Hashiras more and other relations. I do admit the Muzan walk was odd af. Like an indian drama tv show with the length and effects. My theory is that they purposefully made this season longer and put most of their action animators to work on the movies whilst another team animated the non action episodes.
i think it’s just cause there wasn’t really a training arc in the manga it literally gets interrupted i had a feeling it being animated was gonna be bad tbh but to have tanjiro barely being able to beat a lower demon with the help of 4 people to being able to beat muzan in the after the infinity castle WITHOUT a single training moment feels rushed
they didn't develop Hashiras. They did have more screen time ofc but they did nothing of note accept tell Gyomeis backstory and even that did very little because it's a 5 minute part and that's all we know about him. This season did nothing good
It really didn't, though. It introduced nothing we didn't already know about the hashiras, and some of the characters they spent time on will literally never show up in the story again.
If the point of jjk is just action, then there shouldnt be any story at all. The fact that there is a story means that itll be judged based on the story along with its action.
Its fine to say JJK has a mid story but as we see here the same guy that said that also gave MHA a 9, nothing against MHA but it doesn't exactly have the most innovative narrative.
Imagine how much happier Demon Slayer fans or any fans of any media would be if they just ignored reviews and enjoyed it. At the end of the day, what one reviewer says about a piece of media doesn't mean it should be taken as fact lol. It's just an opinion
This season is just a buildup for infinity castle. People will appreciate it more when everything is all said and done. You don’t get too much of the other hashira throughout demon slayer and this arc allows the watcher to get more attached to them and more of an understanding of who they are. And without this arc, the emotion in these next three movies wouldn’t be nearly as big.i believe This arc was necessary to make the ending that much impactful
This is the reason I don’t blame many anime only fans who complained about this season. You can’t really appreciate what Ufotable was trying to accomplish with the extra scenes and extending the whole arc unless you have the context of the next arcs. Personally as someone who’s read the manga, I thoroughly enjoyed this season and appreciated the fact that they gave more depth and detail compared to how obviously rushed it was in the manga. I’m sure they’ll do the same for the movie trilogy coming out. Regardless, I still do think this season was way too overhated.
I think the anime as a whole is a 6/10. The animation is a 10/10, the best I've seen, but the story is mediocre, so I think it's a 6/10. Not to mention, I believe the story is heavily copied from Seraph of the End, almost the exact same story, just with better animation.
I was screaming at the screen for him to please read the Review when he was complaining about the 6/10. He was yelling "why?" while the "why" Was right in front of him and he just skipped it...
Wow, i completely disagree with his MHA take especially with season 6 as it's an 8.5/10 in my opinion and honestly my second favorite season. To just boil it down to "oh i gotta help all my friends" is so disingenuous and feels like a season 2 or 3 take especially the whole license arc thing when that takes place in season 3 and 4... it's been years since we've had anything to do with the academia part of the show which he doesn't like so i don't know why he focused in on that when season 6 had none of that, like c'mon if you're going to complain about it at least mention stuff that happened in the season and not stuff from s4 and 3
@@user-ok1ks5ks9tand yet these people still want to give opinions about something they’ve never seen and acting like their knowledge of the show extends any further than the bandwagon they latched on a few years back
When they announced that they would be doing the Hashira Training Arc movie that came out a few months ago, I thought it was gonna be the whole arc in the movie because the manga chapters werent that long. I think they should have done the movie covering the whole arc then this season should have been Infinity Castle part 1.
Definitely not a 3/10, as people are saying this was the calm before the storm and it was needed for the story. Drawn out? maybe, but if there was a quick montage of their training then it would of been a very jarring experience how some of the characters went from just only being able to kill a lower moon or a low rank upper moon to taking on Muzan. within 1 episode.
@@Huh-oh3mx its just to show them all enjoying time together to strengthen bond for the last arc i get why people don't like it but i personally think its fine it is probably my least fav arc but i still think it does its job and its pretty decent there are like 2 episodes i think are a drag but everyone deserves there opinion but i liked the season.
@@notbeersies8204 I'll go back to what I said at the beginning, you can do that while making it entertaining for your viewers. This isn't the first or last training arcs I've seen but it's definitely one of the most boring to watch.
As a manga reader I thought ahead of time to not watch this season week by week. I waited til it was over and just put it on a side monitor while grinding.
Really don’t know why people score shibuya so low when it’s a perfectly setup arc. The character development was good, the fights were amazing, the ost was great and the visuals were stunning. It could have had a little more narratively but it is pretty much a war arc so your mostly going to get fights.
it was extremely weak on character development imo. It also completely wasted Nobara which was a lot of people’s favorite. Yuji’s story also reused the same plot twist. I really think they needed more side characters in this section since Yuji is such a wet paper towel of an MC.
What character development? Having Yuji get mad for a few minutes every episode after someone dies is not character development. Don't get me wrong, Shibuya is a really fun arc to watch, but that is all it is. It has no depth and no development to it. Yuji is the worst MC out of any shounen I have ever seen, he doesnt even feel like an MC, Sukuna is way more of an MC than him. The hidden inventory arc now is a whole different beast, way better writing and character development and is actually the best part of JJK.
i dont understand why people say shibuya has a bland plot. Idk whats bland about the strongest character being sealed away and then everyone tries their best to save him and shit gets worse and worse. Like toji comes back, sukuna comes back and kills hundreds and traumatizes Yuji and the heroes lose. Idk ive always been lost on that
if anything it gets glazed way too much I had my hopes up and was left disappointed. I understand that its entertaining because it does shocking things however I wouldn't say I like it
@@baeber it works the great if you watch season 1 right before. And the works the best knowing everything that happens after. People don’t say it’s the best just because of shock value.
Hidden inventory was genuinely the only peak thing about season 2, shibuya was just boring and mind numbing fights that children like, 6 is a fair score
personally i liked demon slayer season 4 alot i do feel like yea it couldve been a montage but id say ATLEAST 4 episodes not to mention they weren't ready to go straight to a movie because then itd just stop mid way but it was a really good opening for the 3 last up coming movies
I see the season as like a filler season for fans to get get to know more about the hashira's and their backstories so the infinity castle arc movies would be more impactful
Giving a show a 6/10 for the animation and action ALONE is already good. I gave Shibuya a 7/10, so it's about the same. And I gave Chainsawman a 9/10 because it actually has interesting and memorable characters. So yeah, it's not a stretch at all to see CSM being rated above JJK.
Something about popular Shonen feels fake or defective. I don’t know why but I can’t shake the feeling that they’re designed for popularity and money, not to be good.
I disagree that is was bad. I personally don't care that swords didn't go burr as much in the season. In this season we got to explore the characters of the Hashira way deeper than in the manga. Like the wind hashira, pretty sure in the manga the thing with his brother was all you ever really saw of him. But in the anime we got him fighting with snake boi and the water hashira and got to see more how he interacts with the other hashira. Or how we see how he effectively gives tonjiro a pass for breaking his ban on coming close to him, showing a level of forgiveness despite him being a super harsh character.
We all have a right to enjoy what we enjoy.... But imo the only redeeming factor of demon slayer was the animation/art style, the actual dialogue and narrative was a bit of a chore to get through with a lot of the character development moments feeling awkward
@@ibadrizvi5740 I think its a fair criticism for sure. Demon Slayer would be 10x better just removing Zenitsu's awkward pathetic weirdness alone, and having his tone at least somewhat match the settings. But Idk I still love it.
you can do all of that like u said without being boring like bro the entire thing could've been a single episode. it flops on the story telling and it felt like a genshin exposition dump
@@joecaa3722it would have been more boring if they put it into 1 episodes and would have been rushed as shit. Unless you have the attention span of a goldfish, not every single episode/season needs to have some flashy fighting or jaw dropping plot developments to be considered good
@@crazyand2099 He was answering his question saying “in what world is jjk s2 a nine” with a logical and fair one and then followed it up with saying our world is not logical or fair. jesus christ
@@pushriathecat1 exactly, so he is disagreeing by saying that is shouldn't be a 9, but because the world isn't logical or fair, that's why people think it should be.
People don't understand that after this, its the last arc besides the final fight. As soon as Infinity Castle starts, its about to end. Like, they want you to know these characters.
I think they did it to introduce all the Hashira a little more. I personally am not complaining. Idk if the Hashira get more introduced in the final arcs. I hope they did this because they were already somewhat working on the movies behind the scenes to make them as good as possible.
I kinda expected to have like a season for each hashira, like we've been getting, so it suprised me to see we're going from pushing rocks straight to the endgame lol
training arc is literally the calm before the storm becuase Infinity castle arc is going to be crazy.Infact is so long that its getting 3 movies so get ready with the tissues
@@taigaaisaka6305depends on how long the movies are; if they’re 2-3 hours it’s a longer run time. 12 episodes averages around 4 hours maybe 5 if you extend the last two to 40 mins each
@@jakublutek9361nothing is basic and generic about introducing the big bad ( gun devil ) just to have him killed off in a single panel by a sensei ( makima ), and having the said sensei use the most prominent side cast( aki ) as a puppet to fight the main character And have the most prominent female character( power ) killed off by makima in the same day. Also add the fact that only 4 out of like ~50 cast members survive the first part of the story In what world is that generic and basic?
Rare IGN review W. Demon Slayers character writing is NOT good, so this past season that has focused mainly on character development has felt filler-y. It also feels cheap, like they’re trying so hard to make us feel for these characters who are going to die very soon. I’d maybe give it a 4 or 5, but yeah. Even the OP feels lazy with a shitload of still shots.
That's your opinion. It was absolutelty not boring to others,. I liked all the characters and interactions. Go watch something you find interesting and are invested in, because I don't know how you made it this far into ds if you find the characters and events "boring"
This arc in the manga was actually 12 chapters , and they expanded in some parts where I think we needed a little more than what we got in the manga , maybe something else with the whole paper airplanes bit but it was whatever , at least they kept this season short
I still don't get where the overwhelming hate for Muzan's 5 minute walk came from, the second time I watched it I laughed at how ridiculous the effects were but the first time I was on the edge of my seat. The strongest demon just casually strolling into the heart of our base with the Wisteria mist rolling off him, they gave him insane aura in that.
as others said, first one was kinda corny but cool, but then they hype the last episode to have 40mins or something and just repeat the walk again and add 7 minute credits lmao
its literally called the hashira training arc, not lets kill muzan by the end of the season arc, theres a trio of movies after which is the end of demon slayer, it was never a long ass manga to begin with
This season was so amazing that i went and bought the 4 limited edition blu ray box sets on crunchyroll! Cant wait for the movies and for this seasons box set!
bro did NOT watch MHA if that was his takeaway lmfao. there is significant focus on other aspects of the world outside of just Deku and the whole "protect my friends" shtick is a completely disingenuous spin on his character. he literally struggles with wanting to save EVERYONE, even Shigaraki. i get that it's popular to hate on the show but please at least have an informed opinion lmao
Chainsawman > JJK season 2. Dude was on the money. Storytelling was better and the art and animation was more consistent. Also, if you read ahead in the manga. Chainsawman is HILARIOUSLY better than JJK
@@eksqc2825 the vision is. “Pretty fight. POW pow” Toji: *exists for no reason* Grasshopper: *exists for no reason* Yuji: (you are my special) “AHHHHHHHHHH” Something like that
@@SilverSaw988 I mean both those shows are bad, chainsaw man got one of the worst protagonist in all anime (a man child character simping around) and JJK does't have one (Yuji got cucked by Gojo)🤣
I agree with the vast majority of what Charlie said here. But IDK man, I REALLY enjoyed MHA Season 6. Animation wise it doesn't hold a candle to JJK obviously. (Apart from some certain scenes) But Mirko vs The Nomus, Shigaraki's rampage, Dabi Reveal, Vigilante Deku, Deku vs Class 1A, and Uraraka's speech were all genuinely fantastic. A 9 is too much I will agree. But I'd honestly say it was an 8/10.
It is actually a 9. This reviewer seems to value story and characters more than animation and cool fights and MHA does both better than JJk, especially in s6. And apart from a few moments in Deku vs Shigaraki, the animation is good. Not JJK or Demon Slayer level, but good. And I will always take story and character writing over animation.
@@albinlimani6627 I completely agree with most of this. I think MHA does it's themes and character super well. But a 9/10 to me is a ranking reserved for the outstanding. 10/10 should be used to describe a movie/show that genuinely astounded you. Stuff like Dune 2, Spider-Verse, or Attack on Titan. 9/10 isn't far behind from that status. MHA Season 6 was amazing. I adored it. But despite some 9/10 and even 10/10 moments, overall it's only an 8/10 for me.
I think the hashira training arc served more of a purpose than anything else. As a manga reader i interpret it as the calm before the storm, the part on a rollercoaster where the ride is slowly going up hill. Had they done just a short montage of the hashira training arc then the infinity castle arc wouldn't have as much of a punch. But that's just my opinion, the entire training arc i was waiting scratching at my neck for Zenitsu moments Its only up hill from here on out boys
MHA has gotten really damn good in the last couple seasons again. I don't think it ever "fell off" per say, but Seasons 4 and 5 definitely had some unevenness that slowed the story's momentum down. Thankfully, ever since around late Season 5 (the My Villain Academia arc) it's been consistently interesting and exciting since. And I can see why someone would prefer its story over JJK honestly. MHA has some really gripping and developed characters/subplots, meanwhile the story in JJK feels like it's only there to be a skeleton for the insane action.
@@batty5265imo some of the early episodes with them yapping were some of my favorite episodes in the series. I loved the talk Deku had with Uraraka about their morality
the hate is so forced lol. and charlie's view specifically is insane because there is so much focus on things that arent deku or exams, like he whines about. not to mention deku's need to save everyone isn't even the generic anime shtick he makes it out to be, he just wants to be like All Might. he literally even wants to save Shigaraki, who definitely isn't his friend lmao
@@chidoriyah I mean I can kind of see where he's coming from. It is a bit of an uneven series where we go back and forth from exciting, high stakes fighting to regular practice exams/school stuff. Unlike other shounen series, it almost takes a slice of life/episodic approach to some of its arcs. And if you're not into that and want constant smoke, this show won't be for you That being said, Deku's desire to save people definitely isn't as generic as Charlie makes it out to be, agreed there. And I am curious if he actually finished S6 because calling a 9 extremely generous is unfair to that season. It's at least an 8
I do remember hearing that the creator of the Manga helped with this season with some writing for the Hashira’s because they couldn’t give them enough back story in the manga because they were rushed to finish the manga. But idk lol
I think your enjoyment to JJK season 2 lies heavily on your preferences to this kinda shounen. Duh obviously everything is preference based but I more mean if this isn’t a world, has characters, power system, or story you previously cared about then this isn’t gonna change your mind. To me JJK is incredible but it’s also my kinda series. For context my favorite mangaka is Yoshihiro Togashi, favorite anime is Yu Yu Hakusho, and Hunter x Hunter I also believe is a masterpiece. Basically I’m saying YYH and HxH are some of my favorite series ever. JJK is the closest manga I’ve ever read that’s similar to Togashi’s style of storytelling. The plot, the writing, the characters, the power system, the structure, Gege Akutami really nails what made Togashi’s works so special and made them their own. Shibuya I feel is the ultimate culmination of everything that came before and everything that came after in such a dense perfectly exciting yet gut wrenching tragedy. Plus unlike Demon Slayer I’d say JJK isn’t carried by the animation either. Gege isn’t the best artist ever but the Hidden Inventory/Shibuya Incident era has without question the best art in the series. It’s not clean but it’s kinda of like a fluid messy that makes the action easy to read and exciting, plus the character designs are at their best since they’re expressive and soft with a little grit. It still may not be everybody’s cup of tea but this is one of the few times I think a series completely deserves all the hype and recognition it’s receiving.
The problem is IGN gave Jujutsu kaisen 0 a 9/10 and hidden inventory an 8/10 but somehow shibuya which a lot of people consider to be JJK'S peak is a 6/10. The rating is purely to get interactions.
JJK is more similar to Kubo than Togashi's works, even Gege has said he is heavily inspired by bleach (which has inspiration from YYH even though Kubo has never stated it) where even domain expansion is taken inspiration from Tosen's bankai and how Mai/Maki story part in season 1 is almost one to one direct copy of Yoruichi/Soifon backstory + relation.
@@WieldMyWord you’re correct that JJK is also heavily inspired by Bleach but you’re incorrect stating domain expansions were inspired by Bankai. There’s an interview somewhere out there where Gege states domains were actually inspired by territories from YYH. Yes there are plenty of elements of JJK that were inspired by Kubo, Togashi’s influence I feel is much strongly present in Gege’s writing. Cursed energy is a system most similar to Nen, Geto’s backstory being directly inspired by Sensui from YYH, Nobara mentions by the the first Spirit Detective from YYH the chapter/episode she meets that girl who has a crush on Yuji. There’s even in anime subtle references where in Yuji’s battle against Mahito he strikes a stance similar to Gon’s Jajaken while focusing for a Black Flash, and the MAPPA hiring Killua’s VA in both the sub/dub for kid Gojo.
I can't believe people loved Vinland Saga S2 so much. I agree it's very very good, but it's stretched out 6 episodes longer than it needed. It was soooo slow at times.
The problem with boruto anime is that their filler is suppose to be basically cannon, unless it specifically conflicts with something in the manga. But they designed the boruto anime to fill in the gaps that the manga doesn’t cover because the manga only covers the major major story. I think the boruto creators even have stated they want people to consider boruto’s anime as basically cannon. They’ve even referenced anime only content in the manga at later points, ie I think one of the main characters has a move that was first shown in the anime and hasn’t been shown in the manga but it’s been referenced
I’ve tried to watch demon slayer twice and I just can’t do it. The dialogue and story is absolutely impossible for me to sit through, but the animation is beautiful so I just watch the fights.
JJK is so overrated becuase the only thing people talk about is gojo,sukuna and the power fantasy of the show.Infact i would say yuta from the movie feels like a main character more than yuji
@@Henrique-wv9xq Interesting. I really enjoy Yuji as both a character and a protagonist, his whole development from just some kid to a hardened sorcerer who isn’t even afraid of the king of curses was amazing to see. He isn’t even my favorite character either, Hakari is.
i think the fanbase for this season is divided by manga reader loved it anime only hated it manga reader know how demon slayer suck at character development, that's why we have such low expectation on this season based on what we read but anime only fans expected this arc to be as hype as previous season, that's why they are disappointed while i agree some of the scene doesn't make sense like when wind and snake hashira caught a glimpse of infinity castle and they didn't talk to anyone. but the focus of this season is less about the level improvement and more character interaction
This arc was always supposed to be a calm before the storm type of vibe. This season was def not awful, pacing could have been better overall. But I thought it was a nice chill season before we got into the crazy shit. The last 3 movies are the end of Demon Slayer, so this season made a lot of sense before whats coming.
Everyone knows what type of season it was supposed to be it was just bad at doing that and the story overall would have been better if they choose to develop the hashira before hand probably by not killing off the lower moons
@@noot4041 Tell the author that, the studio is just adapting what they're given lol. Though, I don't disagree that the hashira should've been developed more, and that the lower moons should've lived.
I am happy with the season. I don't care about the slow pacing, or that there are 5 chapters in the manga (I didn't read the manga, so I wouldn't have known that anyway), I enjoy when important characters get further characterization, and I don't get why the show needs nonstop action to be "good". IGN complained about JJK season 2 having too much action, so I don't get what they want at this point.
I mean he’s allowed to think the characterization wasn’t well-executed. Many feel the characters, humor, and writing in Demon Slayer aren’t that strong compared to the action, even if it’s important for setting up future events. Vinland Saga s2 was like all characterization and no action, and I and many others still enjoyed it cause the characters are complex and well-written.
@@tealdrum5687 I also did enjoy VS s2 and found it to be more enjoyable than the first season, but comparing it to Demon Slayer does a deservice to both because one is a shonen, and one is a seinen, so one of them will always be simpler, less complex. This is not always the case with shonen, but I feel like any bonus characterization of the cast is welcome because it slowly adds emotional attachment to these characters. I get if he doesn't think it was well executed, but critiques like "nothing happens" and "they are stretching the plot" I find very reductive to what the season actually had in store.
@@NexusBecauseWhyNot You’re right my bad, I compared the two just cause they were in the video. I’ll agree that a lot of moist’s takes were pretty wild. I still enjoyed s4 of Demon Slayer, I just found the character writing and humor underwhelming. But even though I didn’t like it, I totally get why others do and just hope infinity castle goes hard.
@@tealdrum5687 on the overall scale, if I'd give an 8.5 score to every season except the last one bc it was weaker in writing and underwhelming in the villain side (and gets a 7 bc of that), I would still give this one a 6, which is by no way even close to the 3 that IGN gave. And yeah, I cannot wait for Infinity Castle xD
I will never understand Chalie's and other peoples obsession with JJK Season 2. I didn't even like Season 1 that much, but Season 2 was just a slog to sit through. Its literally just turn your brain off material. Are the fights amazingly animated? Sure. Im not gonna lie and say they weren't. But I could not give a shit about the story or characters. At that point, I could just watch clips of the fights on RUclips. And Charlie just saying Chainsaw Man is better to gooners is just him having shitty media literacy like a lot of other Chainsaw Man haters.
Holy W, it actually confuses me so much. I thought Hidden Inventory was great but after that its just straight up boring due to just mind numbing fights and not giving AF abt the characters. Genuinely do not understand the obsession. And its not like I just don't like action and fights, I love Naruto fights but I think its because I actually care about the characters
I don't even get the obsession with JJK in the first place. It's just your run-of-the-mill action anime that likes to randomly off characters for shock value (Not even letting them get any character development). Reminds me of Akame ga kill. Like.. I can see myself completely forgetting what the plots about in 5 years, similar to how I forgot what happened in other similar styled animes.
@@cracuss31n52Nah bro were you watching/reading the series with your eyes closed or what I mean like anime fans tend to simp on woman in anime in general, only difference with the CSM community is that most of that woman are dead
HOW WAS THIS AN AWFUL ARC????? It gave so much fucking story and it was sick asf to actually see them training and see how they actually get better after each fight. It gave us so much story. ANDDD WE GOTTA SEE Tanjiro be a fucking bad ass Infront of everyone!
If only the MHA fanbase weren't deplorable. We're talking about adults who send death threats to writers over their favorite high schoolers not getting together
Honesty ive never disagreed with charlie but im not gonna say tnks is an L take. Its understandable but demon slayer s4 did not deserve a 3 and id say his take on this is mid. Cause i think s4 was not just a good season but it was crucial to get hs invested in some characters and build them up
"I love a slow burn with good character development" meanwhile Charlie who doesn't like Frieren. Not saying DS season 4 was that. Or that Charlie is obligated to like Frieren, I just kinda find it funny that he said that while Frieren is literally that
Also crazy how he says that while also glazing jjk, a series with 0 character development. All the characters at the end are the same as they were at the start.
@@nozers How is it possible to be such a contrarian that you willingly ignore every single positive aspect of a thing just to shit on it? Like that is CRAZY work.
@@anusaukko6792 explain how im contrarian if I think the hidden inventory arc was amazing and everyone else agrees. Please explain, also please tell me how I avoided any possible thing when I legit said a positive thing in the comment. You are braindead
What if I told you that the publisher for the anime is trying to stretch the anime in hopes of it getting a bigger following as there's a few Shonen animes close to ending?
Without spoiling anything, I’d say that season 4 was the best decision Demon Slayer could’ve made. The whole point of season 4 is to make the last arc better than it already is. Good decision in my opinion.
I think the anime as a whole is a 6/10. The animation is a 10/10, the best I've seen, but the story is mediocre, so I think it's a 6/10. Not to mention, I believe the story is heavily copied from Seraph of the End, almost the exact same story, just with better animation.
An agruement for why chainsaw man’s better atleast for season 1 and this will contain spoilers if that matters. The the ghost girl who gives her life to save her friends and then the guy who was her student/partner having to deal with her ghost thing in the final season was really good. Like the emotions of losing a friend or family member hit so hard there it was like I was watching one of those super sad moments in link click. And idk a chick pushing herself onto a guy and being his cause for starting to smoke cigarettes is a decent bit of character development that we don’t get to see often. Edit wouldn’t rate it above JJK but still idk if I’ve had an emotional beat take off in JJK like I did with chainsaw man. Which is weird because most of the time it’s super goofy and “meh” but the kid losing his mentor and having to deal with that, it hits.
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"5 manga chapters stretched across 8 episodes is insanity"
One Piece: 👀
Nah they actually have at least good reason for this, the anime was trailing not far behind the manga which was still not finished. Demon slayer already ended, their only excuse is that they are releasing like a 3 part movie and they needed to give something out.
One Piece is a weekly anime, Demon Slayer isn't LMAO and even with that OP is ~1 chapter per ep
@@unknownincognito2425 I still don’t think that’s a good reason. Just pull a Naruto and make a filler arc that we can skip.
@@snarpking it is a very good reason in my opinion, theres even a clip in gintama about anime productions: ruclips.net/video/a4S9NuI6NKo/видео.htmlsi=1rWuW_008uMpTV_S . Never said the outcome was great, i dislike filler as much as the next guy, all im saying is that the reason is understandable at the very least. You have to remember, these manga's are being worked on by several people, sometimes a couple and theres nothing an anime studio could do about it other than patiently wait.
yeah but one piece KIND OF has to do it, i mean sure they could take breaks, but i dont think their schedule allows it, so they're forced to stretch the episodes out in order to not catch up to the manga. Demon slayer manga is finished, the only reason they stretched it out was literally just to milk it
Still can't believe Vinland Saga S2 didn't win a single award at the anime awards.
these days its NO action= not good 😂 tho i do agree vinland saga S2 not winning anything anything is criminal
It was obvious it was not going to win, those awards are a popularity contest
@@LuisSierra42 True it pretty much boils down to who ever has the biggest fanbase=win.And ofcourse most the power fantasy shows win
I won't say Vinland saga is bad, but it's definitely not something that I'd enjoy as it doesn't have enough action for me which makes sense since the author doesn't like violence or something like that.
@@anonymouscommentor411 season 1 was pretty much all action but the author wanted to go the character developments and he did not disappoint in that area
I didn’t hear a single person talking about the new season until the end.
I binged the whole thing yesterday after failing to get through the first episode on release. I can't imagine how underwhelming watching it weekly would've been
Ep 8's whole purpose was to set up Infinity Castle Arc. But the season as a whole was weak. I personally didnt care, it was fine with me
didnt even know there was a new season, and idk if its a good thing they stretched it out or not since the final arc in the manga was super rushed and ended abruptly
Because the whole season was trash expect Michael Jacksons Indian Walk
How does it matter that you, some random guy, didn't hear anything? Are you stupid or something, how does that define a quality of a show? Touch some grass little fella and step out of the twitter mentality.
I wouldnt call it a 3/10 but the pacing compared to other seasons was really bad, they turned 9 chapters into 8 episodes, 2 of whoch were double length, whereas season 2 and 3 turned about 30 chapters into 10 episodes
They added a lot of more to characterisation to the side characters and hashiras, something we barely saw in the manga, I'll take it
It wssnt due to pacing or at least that's oversimplifying it
They were adding alot of content which tbh isn't a bad thing
@@onizukasensei5321 boring thing, thats for sure. Literally had to skip in between episodes to watch the entire season because of how boring and cringe it was.
@@dungeonashu2987 it wasnt boring at all honestly
I enjoyed it for the most part
@@onizukasensei5321 you might as well enjoy watching paint dry then. Cause i dont know who can seriously enjoy those 7 episodes
Me personally I like training arcs so I enjoyed it. As a manga reader I was waiting for Zenitsu to lock in.
Yeah I think manga readers don't mind this season because we know what it is setting up.
@@bayc3715 It's one of those arcs that serves to build up the next arc, when watched back to back once the infinity castle movies come out it would work better, but on its own its weak as hell.
@@DANBAN119 fr without this arc them fighting in the infinity castle will feel like asspulls
As a non manga reader who doesn’t know what’s ahead, it was not fun to me. Last episode though was clearly very good
It’s a heavy waste of time
The muzan walk was never stretched out because they needed to fill in the episode. The episode itself was made longer than usual and i'm pretty sure it was for the walk. It was also an after credit scene.
They could have done a normal length episode if they wanted.
Exactly Charlie also said this season was 5 chapters stretched out but the pacing was still good because they didn’t just go off 5 chapters but also added 50% anime original content
The anime original content was terrible
@@amiralibazdar3206the anime original content gave the characters some depth and screen time. The original manga just skipped all the hashira and then when infinity castle comes up, who cares when they die.
@@yogainstructor4437 This is bullshit, the original manga gave the Hashira the same depth and screentime as the anime. Really the only Hashira that the anime gave anime original content to were Giyuu, Muichiro, and Tengen (who doesn't even matter anymore).
lmfao, the Muzan walk was a waste of time. That shit was so cringe 💀💀
The fact they only got 12 episodes in with csm was a shame, the movie and upcoming season is the part that we all love about it
I think they ended it off on a really good note, since it's probably the most tame arc in the show/series, hyped for the movie though
I'm kinda glad they gave the director of S1 only 12 episodes. The vibe of the worlds in the manga and anime is really different, and it didn't hit for me at all.
@@Mclovinn3101 i still to this day have no idea what you people are complaining about...
I can’t wait for the insanity of the bomb devil arc. Mappa is taking their time though I want it now!
@@bencegergohocz5988 Yea i still can't believe it, the art style clicked so much for me, i loved the cinematic look it had, it fit well imo specially when you know fujimoto is into that kind of shit.
The thing with chainsaw man is that the anime stopped where it actually gets amazing lol
Yeah dude, after the stupid bomb lady that shit goes fucking crazy.
When I first read/watched the part that's been adapted I think I'd give it an 8, which is still pretty good, but CSM started to enter my top 3 manga only after the anime stopped lol. I feel like the season ended in a way that made sense, but it was really stupid to have only 12 when mappa knew how much hype was around it
The directing and narrative build up in S1 of Chainsaw Man was executed so well. Lobotomy Kaisen can't even compare.
@@snaxia8396 truuueee, but i think we're also biased because we know more about the rest of the story
5:20 if you ever wanted to hear Charles slurp on it.
just like my japanese pornos
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The reason CSM is so beloved is not due to the first 40 chapters that the first season is based off of. It’s beloved for the arcs that come after…
CSM is my favorite manga and my friends and I are super excited for the movie
CSM season 2 is going to destroy the internet im excited
@@esper6940 3
I don't think it's fair to say. It's the same situation with Steins Gate. You can't have an amazing moments that happens in 2nd parts of both shows, without great build up.
@@ksenomorfifyexactly
As someone who enjoyed season 4, I totally understand why people don't like it. "Meandering" is definitely a good word to describe it, but I generally enjoyed some of the character moments we got, even if they are pretty silly like the paper airplane tournament. But stuff like Himejima's backstory and the lead-up to the Infinity Castle, which were the best parts of the arc in the manga, were done really well here, much like the rest of the adaptation so far. Also Muzan's 5 minute walk across Ubuyashiki's yard was hilarious, and they played it twice.
Craziest take was Ninja Kamui being a 7, that show is so nothing and I say that as a fan of ninjas and mechs. This is the first I've heard of AI art being used in the show, though I wouldn't be surprised, since the writing feels like ChatGPT generated most of it.
I liked the arc tbh. It developed the Hashiras more and other relations. I do admit the Muzan walk was odd af. Like an indian drama tv show with the length and effects.
My theory is that they purposefully made this season longer and put most of their action animators to work on the movies whilst another team animated the non action episodes.
I loved this arc too
i think it’s just cause there wasn’t really a training arc in the manga it literally gets interrupted i had a feeling it being animated was gonna be bad tbh
but to have tanjiro barely being able to beat a lower demon with the help of 4 people to being able to beat muzan in the after the infinity castle WITHOUT a single training moment feels rushed
they didn't develop Hashiras. They did have more screen time ofc but they did nothing of note accept tell Gyomeis backstory and even that did very little because it's a 5 minute part and that's all we know about him. This season did nothing good
It really didn't, though. It introduced nothing we didn't already know about the hashiras, and some of the characters they spent time on will literally never show up in the story again.
imo it was good because it allows people to get emotionally connected to the characters so their death has more impact
If the point of jjk is just action, then there shouldnt be any story at all. The fact that there is a story means that itll be judged based on the story along with its action.
great point. Crazy how easy it is for people to ignore a show's problems when they see some flashy punch or sword animation
People who say jjk season 2 had weak story didnt pay attention to the hidden inventory arc
Or maybe they missed the movie, that setup was important imo
Hidden inventory was much more intriguing than shibuya tbh
Its fine to say JJK has a mid story but as we see here the same guy that said that also gave MHA a 9, nothing against MHA but it doesn't exactly have the most innovative narrative.
JJK def does not have a weak story, but its story is not a masterpiece like people make it out to be. JJK's strong point is its action.
"Too much action,7 out of 10"
IGNorance
Imagine how much happier Demon Slayer fans or any fans of any media would be if they just ignored reviews and enjoyed it. At the end of the day, what one reviewer says about a piece of media doesn't mean it should be taken as fact lol. It's just an opinion
I think that applies to anime fans in general, I agree though
You shouldn’t have the least trust in the opinions of humans. No matter what differing thoughts will be present, some in support some in opposition.
You have a right to like and enjoy anything. Doesn’t stop that thing from being free from criticism.
@@andychua2766he never said that though
Absolutely based
This season is just a buildup for infinity castle. People will appreciate it more when everything is all said and done. You don’t get too much of the other hashira throughout demon slayer and this arc allows the watcher to get more attached to them and more of an understanding of who they are. And without this arc, the emotion in these next three movies wouldn’t be nearly as big.i believe This arc was necessary to make the ending that much impactful
This is the reason I don’t blame many anime only fans who complained about this season. You can’t really appreciate what Ufotable was trying to accomplish with the extra scenes and extending the whole arc unless you have the context of the next arcs. Personally as someone who’s read the manga, I thoroughly enjoyed this season and appreciated the fact that they gave more depth and detail compared to how obviously rushed it was in the manga. I’m sure they’ll do the same for the movie trilogy coming out. Regardless, I still do think this season was way too overhated.
Yep, same thoughts man.
if infinity castle ends up being a movie like I've heard I'm actually gonna laugh so hard.
@@vinterrev1326 it is a trilogy of movies
I think the anime as a whole is a 6/10. The animation is a 10/10, the best I've seen, but the story is mediocre, so I think it's a 6/10. Not to mention, I believe the story is heavily copied from Seraph of the End, almost the exact same story, just with better animation.
I was screaming at the screen for him to please read the Review when he was complaining about the 6/10.
He was yelling "why?" while the "why" Was right in front of him and he just skipped it...
At least on the bright side, we're getting 3 movies for the infinity castle
Wow, i completely disagree with his MHA take especially with season 6 as it's an 8.5/10 in my opinion and honestly my second favorite season. To just boil it down to "oh i gotta help all my friends" is so disingenuous and feels like a season 2 or 3 take especially the whole license arc thing when that takes place in season 3 and 4... it's been years since we've had anything to do with the academia part of the show which he doesn't like so i don't know why he focused in on that when season 6 had none of that, like c'mon if you're going to complain about it at least mention stuff that happened in the season and not stuff from s4 and 3
Mid Hero Academia sucks ass
@@MasterZerref someone with a Fairy Tail pfp should be the last person saying that
@@MasterZerreffurry tail isn't much better buddy
Moist was really talking out of his ass during the MHA section
fr that’s not what happened at all
Bro probably hasn't watched MHA since like,season 3💀. He ain't rlly got any standing to speak with.
Agreed
@@gabetheguy5019Because mha turned into garbage after that.
@@user-ok1ks5ks9tand yet these people still want to give opinions about something they’ve never seen and acting like their knowledge of the show extends any further than the bandwagon they latched on a few years back
bro i love the walking scene
L take. The walk was insanely cool.
When they announced that they would be doing the Hashira Training Arc movie that came out a few months ago, I thought it was gonna be the whole arc in the movie because the manga chapters werent that long. I think they should have done the movie covering the whole arc then this season should have been Infinity Castle part 1.
I think jjk is overated but saying shibuya had a weak meandering story is wack.
As a ds fan jjk is way better than ds
JJK is mid af
the story was mid tho. Killing everyone off doesnt automatically make it a good story
@@malalaikajjk is wayyy better than demon slayer imo
@@LuisSierra42how tho, the only thing id say is that the pacing in the manga goes fucking nuts towards the end but i’d like to hear what u think
Definitely not a 3/10, as people are saying this was the calm before the storm and it was needed for the story. Drawn out? maybe, but if there was a quick montage of their training then it would of been a very jarring experience how some of the characters went from just only being able to kill a lower moon or a low rank upper moon to taking on Muzan. within 1 episode.
U can do training arcs and make them entertaining. Not make people watch characters throwing paper planes like be serious bruh.
@@Huh-oh3mx they threw paper planes for like 2 minutes at the end of a episode lol
@@notbeersies8204 the paper planes are just an example my guy, a lot of sh*t in this arc doesn't serve any purpose.
@@Huh-oh3mx its just to show them all enjoying time together to strengthen bond for the last arc i get why people don't like it but i personally think its fine it is probably my least fav arc but i still think it does its job and its pretty decent there are like 2 episodes i think are a drag but everyone deserves there opinion but i liked the season.
@@notbeersies8204 I'll go back to what I said at the beginning, you can do that while making it entertaining for your viewers. This isn't the first or last training arcs I've seen but it's definitely one of the most boring to watch.
The more i browse the internet, the more i realize how many people can't enjoy the little things
As a manga reader I thought ahead of time to not watch this season week by week. I waited til it was over and just put it on a side monitor while grinding.
Really don’t know why people score shibuya so low when it’s a perfectly setup arc. The character development was good, the fights were amazing, the ost was great and the visuals were stunning. It could have had a little more narratively but it is pretty much a war arc so your mostly going to get fights.
it was extremely weak on character development imo. It also completely wasted Nobara which was a lot of people’s favorite. Yuji’s story also reused the same plot twist. I really think they needed more side characters in this section since Yuji is such a wet paper towel of an MC.
people can have different opinions to you. I had to force myself to watch each episode because I simply didn't care about what was going on
@@Henrique-wv9xqDude, drop the show already. You don't make sense
What character development? Having Yuji get mad for a few minutes every episode after someone dies is not character development. Don't get me wrong, Shibuya is a really fun arc to watch, but that is all it is. It has no depth and no development to it. Yuji is the worst MC out of any shounen I have ever seen, he doesnt even feel like an MC, Sukuna is way more of an MC than him. The hidden inventory arc now is a whole different beast, way better writing and character development and is actually the best part of JJK.
@@albinlimani6627oh brother this guy stinks!
i dont understand why people say shibuya has a bland plot. Idk whats bland about the strongest character being sealed away and then everyone tries their best to save him and shit gets worse and worse. Like toji comes back, sukuna comes back and kills hundreds and traumatizes Yuji and the heroes lose. Idk ive always been lost on that
probably what they meant is they want more strongest character do more cool scene and not putting it aside do nothing
it has no bland plot it aint perfect but it's very great
if anything it gets glazed way too much I had my hopes up and was left disappointed. I understand that its entertaining because it does shocking things however I wouldn't say I like it
@@baeber it works the great if you watch season 1 right before. And the works the best knowing everything that happens after. People don’t say it’s the best just because of shock value.
Hidden inventory was genuinely the only peak thing about season 2, shibuya was just boring and mind numbing fights that children like, 6 is a fair score
personally i liked demon slayer season 4 alot i do feel like yea it couldve been a montage but id say ATLEAST 4 episodes not to mention they weren't ready to go straight to a movie because then itd just stop mid way but it was a really good opening for the 3 last up coming movies
I see the season as like a filler season for fans to get get to know more about the hashira's and their backstories so the infinity castle arc movies would be more impactful
Idk man that walking scene was ultimate aura
Giving a show a 6/10 for the animation and action ALONE is already good. I gave Shibuya a 7/10, so it's about the same. And I gave Chainsawman a 9/10 because it actually has interesting and memorable characters. So yeah, it's not a stretch at all to see CSM being rated above JJK.
Agree on both of your scores, Charlie tried to watch CSM with his brain off like he can with JJK and it shows
Something about popular Shonen feels fake or defective. I don’t know why but I can’t shake the feeling that they’re designed for popularity and money, not to be good.
I disagree that is was bad. I personally don't care that swords didn't go burr as much in the season. In this season we got to explore the characters of the Hashira way deeper than in the manga. Like the wind hashira, pretty sure in the manga the thing with his brother was all you ever really saw of him. But in the anime we got him fighting with snake boi and the water hashira and got to see more how he interacts with the other hashira. Or how we see how he effectively gives tonjiro a pass for breaking his ban on coming close to him, showing a level of forgiveness despite him being a super harsh character.
We all have a right to enjoy what we enjoy.... But imo the only redeeming factor of demon slayer was the animation/art style, the actual dialogue and narrative was a bit of a chore to get through with a lot of the character development moments feeling awkward
@@ibadrizvi5740 I think its a fair criticism for sure. Demon Slayer would be 10x better just removing Zenitsu's awkward pathetic weirdness alone, and having his tone at least somewhat match the settings. But Idk I still love it.
you can do all of that like u said without being boring like bro the entire thing could've been a single episode. it flops on the story telling and it felt like a genshin exposition dump
@@joecaa3722it would have been more boring if they put it into 1 episodes and would have been rushed as shit. Unless you have the attention span of a goldfish, not every single episode/season needs to have some flashy fighting or jaw dropping plot developments to be considered good
@@ctgamingplayzz9491who cares if it was rushed. If this arc was rushed and just 2 episodes then we would have gotten the infinity castle a lot sooner
"in what world is jjk s2 below a nine" a logical and fair one. unfortunately our world isnt either of those things
Lmao what, JJK season 2 is amazing, stop being a contrarian.
@@crazyand2099 he's agreeing with charlie?
@@pushriathecat1 he literally said "in a logical and fair world" JJK season 2 would be below a 9. How is that agreeing with him?
@@crazyand2099 He was answering his question saying “in what world is jjk s2 a nine” with a logical and fair one and then followed it up with saying our world is not logical or fair. jesus christ
@@pushriathecat1 exactly, so he is disagreeing by saying that is shouldn't be a 9, but because the world isn't logical or fair, that's why people think it should be.
People don't understand that after this, its the last arc besides the final fight. As soon as Infinity Castle starts, its about to end. Like, they want you to know these characters.
Thats why you have the other seasons for🤦♂️, if we dont know the characters yet then its way to early to be ending the show
If you don't know the characters by the second to last arc, there is a fucking problem in your story.
@@UltimaKeyMaster yes, which is why they added more to this
@@casbinwat I'm saying there's a problem with your build-up if you still don't understand them right before the end.
@@UltimaKeyMaster nothing wrong with a little more
Chainsaw Man is better than JJK, im dying on this hill.
the anime or manga?
@@lalosalamanca2404 both
The end of part 1 is a masterpiece. Part 2 is struggling a bit...
JJK is the best anime there is. Chainsaw Mid and Misderk don't come close
As an anime only, I actually enjoyed this season. I thought it added a lot of charm.
I think they did it to introduce all the Hashira a little more.
I personally am not complaining. Idk if the Hashira get more introduced in the final arcs.
I hope they did this because they were already somewhat working on the movies behind the scenes to make them as good as possible.
I kinda expected to have like a season for each hashira, like we've been getting, so it suprised me to see we're going from pushing rocks straight to the endgame lol
It's 6/10 at best because of the quality. But yeah I agree with his take, the pacing is horrendous
I mean you didn't agree with his take because you said 6/10. 3/10 is just rage bait.
@@jeffreyzhao9156his take about the pacing, you can agree with parts of a argument without agreeing with everything😅😅😅
@@GoldenYT01his take on pacing is incorrect because they added lots of anime new content and didn’t go off the manga alone
training arc is literally the calm before the storm becuase Infinity castle arc is going to be crazy.Infact is so long that its getting 3 movies so get ready with the tissues
"It's so long it's getting 3 movies"
You do know a standard 12 episodes anime season is longer than 3 movies, right?
@@taigaaisaka6305depends on how long the movies are; if they’re 2-3 hours it’s a longer run time.
12 episodes averages around 4 hours maybe 5 if you extend the last two to 40 mins each
The problem with the training arc is that the following arc is so strangely proportioned that it leaves the series in an adaptation mess.
That 5 minutes of walking should've been the first episode of the next season. Or atleast the intro of the trilogy
Nga we already enter the infinity castle they even extend it
The Muzan scene felt like a K-drama with the back to back to back to back transitions
Chainsaw man season 1 is better than jjk 2. Animation can only carry so hard. The story of jjk is simply much more basic than csm.
Nah man Chainsaw man is 3/10 at best
@@Jdjdjdujakzgsha why?
W take
CSM is using all the same basic tropes from last decades with different package, there's nothing unique about the story.
@@jakublutek9361nothing is basic and generic about introducing the big bad ( gun devil ) just to have him killed off in a single panel by a sensei ( makima ), and having the said sensei use the most prominent side cast( aki ) as a puppet to fight the main character
And have the most prominent female character( power ) killed off by makima in the same day.
Also add the fact that only 4 out of like ~50 cast members survive the first part of the story
In what world is that generic and basic?
Rare IGN review W. Demon Slayers character writing is NOT good, so this past season that has focused mainly on character development has felt filler-y. It also feels cheap, like they’re trying so hard to make us feel for these characters who are going to die very soon. I’d maybe give it a 4 or 5, but yeah. Even the OP feels lazy with a shitload of still shots.
Nooo he missed on this one, every episode was necessary
nah season 4 is underrated wouldn’t mind more chill arcs like that
”Its for building characteeeers”
You can do that without being boring.
Holy W take
Vinland Saga season 2 is literally just that and it slaps
@@zzxp1Frrl was just about to say that. Barely any action, ALL. Characters.
That's your opinion. It was absolutelty not boring to others,. I liked all the characters and interactions. Go watch something you find interesting and are invested in, because I don't know how you made it this far into ds if you find the characters and events "boring"
id give it a 5, better than fishman island
I'd give fishman island a 7 in my opinion
tbf that's not hard
Is that a one piece season?
This arc in the manga was actually 12 chapters , and they expanded in some parts where I think we needed a little more than what we got in the manga , maybe something else with the whole paper airplanes bit but it was whatever , at least they kept this season short
I still don't get where the overwhelming hate for Muzan's 5 minute walk came from, the second time I watched it I laughed at how ridiculous the effects were but the first time I was on the edge of my seat. The strongest demon just casually strolling into the heart of our base with the Wisteria mist rolling off him, they gave him insane aura in that.
They definitely shouldn’t have done it twice but the first time was great.
I didn’t even notice it was five minutes tbh
5minute walk scene is fucking outrageous
Wasn't that just an ending scene of an episode. I believe that could've been skipped
as others said, first one was kinda corny but cool, but then they hype the last episode to have 40mins or something and just repeat the walk again and add 7 minute credits lmao
csm movie and second season are 100% gonna show why csm is top tier
Maybe Ive just forgotten the bomb arc because of how good the rest of it was but I honestly dont remember it being that amazing.
do we have a date on that movie already?
@@Henrique-wv9xq Not confirmed but it’s thought to be releasing late 2024 to maybe early 2025.
I wouldnt have minded the trainint episodes if there was more after. The fact it was essentially the entire season is lame as fuck though lol
its literally called the hashira training arc, not lets kill muzan by the end of the season arc, theres a trio of movies after which is the end of demon slayer, it was never a long ass manga to begin with
This season was so amazing that i went and bought the 4 limited edition blu ray box sets on crunchyroll! Cant wait for the movies and for this seasons box set!
bro did NOT watch MHA if that was his takeaway lmfao. there is significant focus on other aspects of the world outside of just Deku and the whole "protect my friends" shtick is a completely disingenuous spin on his character. he literally struggles with wanting to save EVERYONE, even Shigaraki. i get that it's popular to hate on the show but please at least have an informed opinion lmao
Chainsawman > JJK season 2. Dude was on the money. Storytelling was better and the art and animation was more consistent. Also, if you read ahead in the manga. Chainsawman is HILARIOUSLY better than JJK
If you genuinely think that you simply don’t understand the vision for jjk s2🤷♂️
@@eksqc2825 the vision is.
“Pretty fight. POW pow”
Toji: *exists for no reason*
Grasshopper: *exists for no reason*
Yuji: (you are my special) “AHHHHHHHHHH”
Something like that
Just say that you're a hater lol
I can say the same about csm 1
Boom, demons demons
Tits
More demons
Stop. They're two amazing shows.
@@SilverSaw988 I mean both those shows are bad, chainsaw man got one of the worst protagonist in all anime (a man child character simping around) and JJK does't have one (Yuji got cucked by Gojo)🤣
I agree with the vast majority of what Charlie said here. But IDK man, I REALLY enjoyed MHA Season 6. Animation wise it doesn't hold a candle to JJK obviously. (Apart from some certain scenes) But Mirko vs The Nomus, Shigaraki's rampage, Dabi Reveal, Vigilante Deku, Deku vs Class 1A, and Uraraka's speech were all genuinely fantastic. A 9 is too much I will agree. But I'd honestly say it was an 8/10.
s6 was actually fire if they went demon slayer in animation it would be top tier shonen
It is actually a 9. This reviewer seems to value story and characters more than animation and cool fights and MHA does both better than JJk, especially in s6. And apart from a few moments in Deku vs Shigaraki, the animation is good. Not JJK or Demon Slayer level, but good. And I will always take story and character writing over animation.
@@albinlimani6627 I completely agree with most of this. I think MHA does it's themes and character super well. But a 9/10 to me is a ranking reserved for the outstanding.
10/10 should be used to describe a movie/show that genuinely astounded you. Stuff like Dune 2, Spider-Verse, or Attack on Titan.
9/10 isn't far behind from that status. MHA Season 6 was amazing. I adored it. But despite some 9/10 and even 10/10 moments, overall it's only an 8/10 for me.
@@Ockto_ that is super fair actually, can't disagree.
I think the hashira training arc served more of a purpose than anything else. As a manga reader i interpret it as the calm before the storm, the part on a rollercoaster where the ride is slowly going up hill.
Had they done just a short montage of the hashira training arc then the infinity castle arc wouldn't have as much of a punch. But that's just my opinion, the entire training arc i was waiting scratching at my neck for Zenitsu moments
Its only up hill from here on out boys
I thought the arc was pretty boring but it set up everything for the final arc which is going to go crazy in theaters
Chainsaw Man clears JJK
Battle of Mid
JJK 2 >>>> Chainsaw man anime
CSM manga >>> JJk 2 and jjk manga
If chainsaw man had a 24 episode season it would deserve like an 8.5, but jjk season 1 was like 6.5
In every aspect other than action, yes.
@@jordanriley1436Do u also mean to include the chapter where Denji gets a handjob ?
MHA has gotten really damn good in the last couple seasons again. I don't think it ever "fell off" per say, but Seasons 4 and 5 definitely had some unevenness that slowed the story's momentum down. Thankfully, ever since around late Season 5 (the My Villain Academia arc) it's been consistently interesting and exciting since. And I can see why someone would prefer its story over JJK honestly. MHA has some really gripping and developed characters/subplots, meanwhile the story in JJK feels like it's only there to be a skeleton for the insane action.
Early season 7 was dogshit they just kept yapping but the actual action episodes have been really good ngl
@@batty5265imo some of the early episodes with them yapping were some of my favorite episodes in the series. I loved the talk Deku had with Uraraka about their morality
the hate is so forced lol. and charlie's view specifically is insane because there is so much focus on things that arent deku or exams, like he whines about. not to mention deku's need to save everyone isn't even the generic anime shtick he makes it out to be, he just wants to be like All Might. he literally even wants to save Shigaraki, who definitely isn't his friend lmao
@@batty5265 I can tell you love JJK from that lol, lack of meaningful character interactions outside of fights is what makes JJK worse than MHA for me
@@chidoriyah I mean I can kind of see where he's coming from. It is a bit of an uneven series where we go back and forth from exciting, high stakes fighting to regular practice exams/school stuff. Unlike other shounen series, it almost takes a slice of life/episodic approach to some of its arcs. And if you're not into that and want constant smoke, this show won't be for you
That being said, Deku's desire to save people definitely isn't as generic as Charlie makes it out to be, agreed there. And I am curious if he actually finished S6 because calling a 9 extremely generous is unfair to that season. It's at least an 8
I do remember hearing that the creator of the Manga helped with this season with some writing for the Hashira’s because they couldn’t give them enough back story in the manga because they were rushed to finish the manga. But idk lol
i felt like i was going insane seeing people defending 3 minutes of a dude walking on twitter lmfao
I think your enjoyment to JJK season 2 lies heavily on your preferences to this kinda shounen. Duh obviously everything is preference based but I more mean if this isn’t a world, has characters, power system, or story you previously cared about then this isn’t gonna change your mind. To me JJK is incredible but it’s also my kinda series. For context my favorite mangaka is Yoshihiro Togashi, favorite anime is Yu Yu Hakusho, and Hunter x Hunter I also believe is a masterpiece. Basically I’m saying YYH and HxH are some of my favorite series ever. JJK is the closest manga I’ve ever read that’s similar to Togashi’s style of storytelling. The plot, the writing, the characters, the power system, the structure, Gege Akutami really nails what made Togashi’s works so special and made them their own. Shibuya I feel is the ultimate culmination of everything that came before and everything that came after in such a dense perfectly exciting yet gut wrenching tragedy. Plus unlike Demon Slayer I’d say JJK isn’t carried by the animation either. Gege isn’t the best artist ever but the Hidden Inventory/Shibuya Incident era has without question the best art in the series. It’s not clean but it’s kinda of like a fluid messy that makes the action easy to read and exciting, plus the character designs are at their best since they’re expressive and soft with a little grit. It still may not be everybody’s cup of tea but this is one of the few times I think a series completely deserves all the hype and recognition it’s receiving.
The problem is IGN gave Jujutsu kaisen 0 a 9/10 and hidden inventory an 8/10 but somehow shibuya which a lot of people consider to be JJK'S peak is a 6/10. The rating is purely to get interactions.
@@Huh-oh3mx Is it the same reviewer, though? JJK 0 being a 9 is insane to me lol
@@alfanscholz8663 yes it is the same reviewer. And yeah in what world is JJK0 a 9/10 and shibuya incident a 6/10.
JJK is more similar to Kubo than Togashi's works, even Gege has said he is heavily inspired by bleach (which has inspiration from YYH even though Kubo has never stated it) where even domain expansion is taken inspiration from Tosen's bankai and how Mai/Maki story part in season 1 is almost one to one direct copy of Yoruichi/Soifon backstory + relation.
@@WieldMyWord you’re correct that JJK is also heavily inspired by Bleach but you’re incorrect stating domain expansions were inspired by Bankai. There’s an interview somewhere out there where Gege states domains were actually inspired by territories from YYH. Yes there are plenty of elements of JJK that were inspired by Kubo, Togashi’s influence I feel is much strongly present in Gege’s writing. Cursed energy is a system most similar to Nen, Geto’s backstory being directly inspired by Sensui from YYH, Nobara mentions by the the first Spirit Detective from YYH the chapter/episode she meets that girl who has a crush on Yuji. There’s even in anime subtle references where in Yuji’s battle against Mahito he strikes a stance similar to Gon’s Jajaken while focusing for a Black Flash, and the MAPPA hiring Killua’s VA in both the sub/dub for kid Gojo.
Season 2 will always be the best season
yup, it did everything I wanted a season of DS to do.
I can't believe people loved Vinland Saga S2 so much. I agree it's very very good, but it's stretched out 6 episodes longer than it needed. It was soooo slow at times.
The problem with boruto anime is that their filler is suppose to be basically cannon, unless it specifically conflicts with something in the manga. But they designed the boruto anime to fill in the gaps that the manga doesn’t cover because the manga only covers the major major story. I think the boruto creators even have stated they want people to consider boruto’s anime as basically cannon. They’ve even referenced anime only content in the manga at later points, ie I think one of the main characters has a move that was first shown in the anime and hasn’t been shown in the manga but it’s been referenced
Tbf the only good thing about demon slayer is the animation
Hot take, but also JJK. Especially season 2
@@yourbasicninjajjk leagues better than demon slayer
I’ve tried to watch demon slayer twice and I just can’t do it. The dialogue and story is absolutely impossible for me to sit through, but the animation is beautiful so I just watch the fights.
@@yourbasicninja JJK’s more carried by its action than art
@@justinleonard2304 Demon Slayer’s story and characters feel like they were written by someone still in *that* phase.
JJK is so overrated becuase the only thing people talk about is gojo,sukuna and the power fantasy of the show.Infact i would say yuta from the movie feels like a main character more than yuji
yuji is so boring, I feel like gege doesn't try with him at all
@@Henrique-wv9xq not wrong i thaught within the 1st 20 mins of the movie yuta felt more like the main character than yuji ever did in season 1&2
@@Henrique-wv9xq Interesting. I really enjoy Yuji as both a character and a protagonist, his whole development from just some kid to a hardened sorcerer who isn’t even afraid of the king of curses was amazing to see. He isn’t even my favorite character either, Hakari is.
i think the fanbase for this season is divided by
manga reader loved it
anime only hated it
manga reader know how demon slayer suck at character development, that's why we have such low expectation on this season based on what we read
but anime only fans expected this arc to be as hype as previous season, that's why they are disappointed
while i agree some of the scene doesn't make sense like when wind and snake hashira caught a glimpse of infinity castle and they didn't talk to anyone. but the focus of this season is less about the level improvement and more character interaction
The entirety of demon slayer is a 3/10 bro. The only thing they got is animation.
This arc was always supposed to be a calm before the storm type of vibe. This season was def not awful, pacing could have been better overall. But I thought it was a nice chill season before we got into the crazy shit. The last 3 movies are the end of Demon Slayer, so this season made a lot of sense before whats coming.
Crazy cope
Trash season
Everyone knows what type of season it was supposed to be it was just bad at doing that and the story overall would have been better if they choose to develop the hashira before hand probably by not killing off the lower moons
@@noot4041 Tell the author that, the studio is just adapting what they're given lol. Though, I don't disagree that the hashira should've been developed more, and that the lower moons should've lived.
@@soomi5667 I’m aware of that I just end up referring to the anime as default ufotable doesn’t do that much wrong unlike toei
I am happy with the season. I don't care about the slow pacing, or that there are 5 chapters in the manga (I didn't read the manga, so I wouldn't have known that anyway), I enjoy when important characters get further characterization, and I don't get why the show needs nonstop action to be "good". IGN complained about JJK season 2 having too much action, so I don't get what they want at this point.
I mean he’s allowed to think the characterization wasn’t well-executed. Many feel the characters, humor, and writing in Demon Slayer aren’t that strong compared to the action, even if it’s important for setting up future events. Vinland Saga s2 was like all characterization and no action, and I and many others still enjoyed it cause the characters are complex and well-written.
@@tealdrum5687 I also did enjoy VS s2 and found it to be more enjoyable than the first season, but comparing it to Demon Slayer does a deservice to both because one is a shonen, and one is a seinen, so one of them will always be simpler, less complex. This is not always the case with shonen, but I feel like any bonus characterization of the cast is welcome because it slowly adds emotional attachment to these characters. I get if he doesn't think it was well executed, but critiques like "nothing happens" and "they are stretching the plot" I find very reductive to what the season actually had in store.
@@NexusBecauseWhyNot You’re right my bad, I compared the two just cause they were in the video. I’ll agree that a lot of moist’s takes were pretty wild. I still enjoyed s4 of Demon Slayer, I just found the character writing and humor underwhelming. But even though I didn’t like it, I totally get why others do and just hope infinity castle goes hard.
@@tealdrum5687 on the overall scale, if I'd give an 8.5 score to every season except the last one bc it was weaker in writing and underwhelming in the villain side (and gets a 7 bc of that), I would still give this one a 6, which is by no way even close to the 3 that IGN gave.
And yeah, I cannot wait for Infinity Castle xD
Charlie gassing kaiju no. 8 but slandering kny is dummy funny
More interactions with hashira so when the moments to come mean more
I will never understand Chalie's and other peoples obsession with JJK Season 2. I didn't even like Season 1 that much, but Season 2 was just a slog to sit through. Its literally just turn your brain off material. Are the fights amazingly animated? Sure. Im not gonna lie and say they weren't. But I could not give a shit about the story or characters. At that point, I could just watch clips of the fights on RUclips. And Charlie just saying Chainsaw Man is better to gooners is just him having shitty media literacy like a lot of other Chainsaw Man haters.
Holy W, it actually confuses me so much. I thought Hidden Inventory was great but after that its just straight up boring due to just mind numbing fights and not giving AF abt the characters. Genuinely do not understand the obsession. And its not like I just don't like action and fights, I love Naruto fights but I think its because I actually care about the characters
I don't even get the obsession with JJK in the first place. It's just your run-of-the-mill action anime that likes to randomly off characters for shock value (Not even letting them get any character development). Reminds me of Akame ga kill. Like.. I can see myself completely forgetting what the plots about in 5 years, similar to how I forgot what happened in other similar styled animes.
The same shit with CSM how could people like it? It's just a glorified one piece backstory with womans that people simp on
@@cracuss31n52Nah bro were you watching/reading the series with your eyes closed or what
I mean like anime fans tend to simp on woman in anime in general, only difference with the CSM community is that most of that woman are dead
@@cracuss31n52 CSM manga is crazy and anime only covered generic parts. I will say one thing - CSM manga is far better than JJK.
HOW WAS THIS AN AWFUL ARC????? It gave so much fucking story and it was sick asf to actually see them training and see how they actually get better after each fight. It gave us so much story. ANDDD WE GOTTA SEE Tanjiro be a fucking bad ass Infront of everyone!
not awful just boring and repetitive
jjk being a 6 was honestly one of his better takes imo
As long as you like it I don't think reviews matter. See for yourself if a show is trash.
My hero season 6 and 7 are absolutely fire. Season 5 was… the first half was horrendous, but it did get a bit better with the villain arc.
If only the MHA fanbase weren't deplorable. We're talking about adults who send death threats to writers over their favorite high schoolers not getting together
Mha's quality has definitely fluctured over the years but i enjoyed what i watched in s6 and 7.
mha fell off after season 2
the whole show is eh
it’s not terrible but it’s not the best either
@@joelmiller-be9immha season 3 is insanely good
Chainsaw man clears Shibuya incident with both chainsaw hands behind their back sorry
The success of both series tells another story LMAO. Season 1 is definitely not better than Shibuya, the Manga is a different case.
Bro, EASILY. Charlie just made his lack of media literacy obvious with his take on it too
@@cracuss31n52 you're trying to say popularity equals quality? Surely you think Demon Slayer is one of, if not the best anime airing then?
It's anime only
I’m glad I waited for the entire season to come out first. It must’ve been miserable as fuck waiting an entire week for that
Honesty ive never disagreed with charlie but im not gonna say tnks is an L take. Its understandable but demon slayer s4 did not deserve a 3 and id say his take on this is mid. Cause i think s4 was not just a good season but it was crucial to get hs invested in some characters and build them up
"I love a slow burn with good character development" meanwhile Charlie who doesn't like Frieren. Not saying DS season 4 was that. Or that Charlie is obligated to like Frieren, I just kinda find it funny that he said that while Frieren is literally that
doesnt like freiren where did u get that?
@@NasirGiwa He said he couldn't get into it. Doesn't mean he necessarily dislikes it though
@@erodoujinshilover2811 nah he said hasnt gotten to it like he just hasnt watched it yet
Also crazy how he says that while also glazing jjk, a series with 0 character development. All the characters at the end are the same as they were at the start.
@@dakotatrue12 we didn't watch the same show buddy
IGN guy must have been going through a breakup while reviewing JJK
He's so right though, it was all just mindnumbing fights and hidden inventory is the only good part about it 6 is generous
@@nozers How is it possible to be such a contrarian that you willingly ignore every single positive aspect of a thing just to shit on it? Like that is CRAZY work.
@@anusaukko6792 explain how im contrarian if I think the hidden inventory arc was amazing and everyone else agrees. Please explain, also please tell me how I avoided any possible thing when I legit said a positive thing in the comment. You are braindead
@@nozers exactly
@@anusaukko6792 how am I contrarian when I thought hidden inventory was amazing? That’s legit a positive aspect right there so what are you saying
Well now we know they had to cut corners because now they're full steam ahead on the movie trilogy
What if I told you that the publisher for the anime is trying to stretch the anime in hopes of it getting a bigger following as there's a few Shonen animes close to ending?
Without spoiling anything, I’d say that season 4 was the best decision Demon Slayer could’ve made. The whole point of season 4 is to make the last arc better than it already is. Good decision in my opinion.
that is cope lol
@@emmanuelobodozie713 enjoying something is cope
The last arc was garbage though.
Lmao people get way into thier feelings when anime opinions are brought up.
Also when they see others liking what they don’t like.
That’s with any piece of media honestly.
That's anime fans in a nutshell
Anime worse
I think the anime as a whole is a 6/10. The animation is a 10/10, the best I've seen, but the story is mediocre, so I think it's a 6/10. Not to mention, I believe the story is heavily copied from Seraph of the End, almost the exact same story, just with better animation.
1:04 This is wrong. They extened the runtime of the episode for that scene so no time was "wasted".
Honestly i really do think that episode 8 went extremely hard though
Ep 8 was the entire 3 point for that 3/10
Manga readers: this season was cool because we get to see more training and more hashiras interactions.
Anime onlys: boring fillers
I think i'm the only one that liked the muzan walk
I liked it too, but suspense was not as much as they intended
I don't even watch demon slayer and I thought that was cool as hell
You're not, every normal person who knows it's significance and the reason why it was done like that enjoyed it.
An agruement for why chainsaw man’s better atleast for season 1 and this will contain spoilers if that matters. The the ghost girl who gives her life to save her friends and then the guy who was her student/partner having to deal with her ghost thing in the final season was really good. Like the emotions of losing a friend or family member hit so hard there it was like I was watching one of those super sad moments in link click. And idk a chick pushing herself onto a guy and being his cause for starting to smoke cigarettes is a decent bit of character development that we don’t get to see often.
Edit wouldn’t rate it above JJK but still idk if I’ve had an emotional beat take off in JJK like I did with chainsaw man. Which is weird because most of the time it’s super goofy and “meh” but the kid losing his mentor and having to deal with that, it hits.
To put it at 3/10 would be the same as saying it is the same as Ninja Kamui
Opinions are like assholes. Unless I’m going out of my way to see yours, keep it hidden away.
I dont think its a 3/10. Hashira are one of most interesting part about demon slayer but stretching it this far is insane
This IGN reviewer is hating jjk just to have a different opinion.
even the entire ubayashiki talking sequence felt drawn out