Step 12 Newest Developments on Harley Panhead
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
- This is a very "well used" motorcycle being put back into service after sitting for a long time. She's been rode hard and put away wet. But, progress is being made. Pipes are on. Tanks are on. We even mounted a seat. It's really happening! Honest!
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Ever notice how one change leads to another problem? At my age, I just say it's part of the process. Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance. Like your channel.😎
Thank You. And Amen.
That front exhaust clamp is a handy piece of information to have. The old girl is looking good.
Thank You. I felt it was important to show.
That bike just looks awesome. Love the ones that were used, abused, and brought back to life yet again.
Yes, "love" is what they need.
(62 FL) I welded a stud to my front head pipe that mates and nuts to the running board tab. It does the same as
those clamps. My seat mounts a bit differently so I got creative. The mount is a solo seat mount for a Honda Shadow.
But then, my front brake is for a SV 650 and the brake light wiring an Italian scooter. Heh.
Yep, I've busted tank mounts. Both on the tank and on the frame. That taught me the shim lesson the hard way.
You sound very creative. That's cool.
Mike I had to chuckle, I wasn't laughing at you, but I know how that five minute project can turn into hours and frustration sets in. Many times I have had to just halt and walk away for a while, or leave it for the next day. Please keep your enjoyable and educational videos coming.
Thank You. I'm glad you "get it."
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Good evening Mike . Thank you for this video.
Hello Mike , could you please explain the short length of chain on the brake pedal ? Thank you , Ralph
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Hello Mike you are a great teacher and a great mechanic and a cross country friend love you show and thanks for sharing and God’s blessings for you and your helper
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Thank you. And the best to you and yours.
Even though we work on Triumphs. We pick up alot of new ideas from watching your programs. When you've done it the same way for so many years it's hard to see it any other way. Simple thing like the double clamp. Perfect for Brit bikes. Able to get rid of those ugly exhaust brackets coming off the front of the motor on a Triumph. Thanks for taking the time guys. RMM
That's a pleasure to know. Thank You
The joys of old Iron. Thanks for your knowledge.
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Looks like Mike owes you a big meal after this!
He and his wife used to feed whoever showed up. And that was a lot of folks. They've moved now, but they are obviously loved by all.
Old School knowledge and Patience seems to be the name of the game. And it works!
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Appreciate your honesty…I find working on my bike nothing is easy.
Sometimes it's easy and sometimes it's not. Just part of the program.
Exactly shim everything, nothing should be stressed into place, have a blessed week my friends.
Thank You and you too.
Enjoy the videos, learn things every time. Thanks
Glad you like them! Thank You
You do make it look easy. I just watch these for entertainment but I consider them some of the best how to videos on RUclips. You don't leave nothing out.
For the young guy that inherited an old pan or a shovel from his dad and needs to change a camshaft these videos are absolutely perfect.
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@@cameramanmike2072 you guys do a damn good job of bringing the most clearly written easy-to-understand Shop manual to life.
We try Very hard. No editing equipment in our budget so far so we tried to do it all in one take
Another great video, can't wait for part 13, And also to hear it run soon. Keep 'em coming.
Thanks, will do!
Right on brotherman...dig..cant wait for the finish👍😵
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Nice video Mike, I like that you pay close attention to details. I hope your friend Mike, owner of the bike, gets the pipe of his dreams, when the bike is ultimately finished. Great Video!
Thank You. It will still be rough, be he'll love and refine it over the years.
It’s nice to have friends, very nice work camera man Mike!
As always we love your videos Pacific Mike
Keep em coming
Ride safe
Thank You. And you take care also.
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Camera man Mike did a nice job 👍👍and the seat fits the bike perfectly. If it were my bike I wouldn't change a thing, including repainting. This is really a bike with a history, I love it. Thanks 2 × Mike.
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I have been watching this series mostly to see all the stuff I did wrong on my pan back in the 70s. I found out from watching you I didn't do to bad for not knowing what I was doing 🙃😅🙂. I love watching your videos.
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Oh the Joy of working on old played with Equipment. It's something akin to a sickness the way we tinker and tiddle til it works right yet, we wouldn't have it any other way.
It is a passion. Thank You
Looking forward to this video !
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What a great job on that Pan Mike!
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Camera man Mike, Great job on the fabrication of the seat and tank mounts. Almost like that old Bob Newhart show with all the brothers named Darrell. Lol ✌
And my other brother, Mike.
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I love it when it all comes together. I can't wait to hear you run it.
Here's hopin' it's a pleasure.
Great video and nice work. Some of the best things I ever did to my panhead was to add a bracket to my front down pipe to hold it rigidly and adding flat side tanks which was super easy. Later I took off the bolt on brackets for the flat side conversion and welded my own fabricated brackets to the frame. Another great upgrade was for the S&S carburetor. The Panheads have an o-ring setup with two clamps similar to the exhaust to seal them to the head. When I switched to the S&S carb and intake the support bracket for the previous carb wouldn’t reach it so I tried to run without it. Later that night while running down the road the bikes sound completely changed. Wondering what was going on I looked down at the bike to see that the carb and intakes weight were being held by the fuel line. Never dawned on me that the heads intake ports are parallel with each other and act like a big hinge. Next day a support bracket off of the top center case bolt was fabricated and problem solved.
BTW the reason I went to flat side aka “Softail” tanks was that I had gotten tired of welding brackets back on to the old 3.5 gallon split tanks. I thought initially it was just a bad balance on my 88” setup but after talking with some older guys I knew it obviously happened quite a bit on our old iron sickles.
All good stuff. Thank You.
I think people like to see the struggle that makes them feel better about themselves when they're struggling
I generally show it, but videos can't be days long.
You’re the Bob Ross of bikes; love it.
I can smell your Barbrasol and Old Spice through your voice. You’re a damn rock star.
Wow. Thank You.
I've never yet had a set of pipes that just fit on! my squish on my shotguns for the knuck, I had to put it at a 90 degree angle to get it in the head and then massage it back in to the frame. They're all such a PITA!
Amen. The pipes on my Knuckle are welded together and slid in before the motor was installed. They don't leak. They don't rattle. They're wonderful. Just pull the motor to get the front one off. Truly odd.
@@pacificmike9501 As long as you never get bored and want to change them I guess. Removing the motor is a good incentive to keep yourself in love I guess haha!
Thanks again, Mike. Good wrenching.
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Great video, getting us all up to speed on the pan rebuild. I need to fabricate a seat bracket for my old Pan. I like the looks of that one.
Mike, a couple of things. I always give you the thumbs up before I watch the video, You haven't disappointed me one bit. I feel your pain with the little things that crop up. Been t here done that back i n the 70's with the two Shovels that I owned. I hope that Mike decides on Fish Tails for the bike, because there's nothing sexier that Fish Tails on a chopper. To everyone, never cut off the Fat Bob Tank mounts. I'd never consider any other tank. TTFN...
Thank You. Pipes are whatever Mike decides. I love the stock tanks too.
Nylon Washers or bushings , take a little vibration from transferring to the tanks ,helps to prevent cracking mounting tabs
Yes, we used to use a lot of leather.
When one of your videos are there it's like finding money 😁 ps love the tanks
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Camera Man Mike: great assists! Love the bracket on the rear of the seat too, nicely done. Actually both brackets are good!
I thought so too. Thank You
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Beautiful looking scoot. Old school. Doesn’t get any better than that. Like to send you a picture of my scoot. Take care
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I've been down that same road before Mike, chasing your tail fixing crap here and there then the bike ends up rearing its ugly head somewhere else completely!
Much like my recent Ebay bike that I purchased last December.
I was SO proud of the fact that I got such a "wonderful deal".
I think my Wife was actually happier than I was!
This bike needed absolutely everything done to it and I should've just completely overhauled it from the get-go and saved myself the aggravation.
Still trying to get it sorted out, 4 5/8" stroker assembly on a set of stock cylinders should hopefully do the trick (89").
Everything else has been THROUGHLY gone through. I can't wait to get it back on the road and enjoy it like I wanted to from day 1.
Thanks for sharing your frustrations with the rest of us who must also endure the same frustrations. 👍🏻
I think I'll name this particular bike "frazzled" 💣
I enjoyed your story. That's because it's not mine. When it all comes together, it will be great.
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I love the look of the pan head motor.
I love them too.
Good morning from Sweden. I have sometimes problems to find bolts that are not metrictreads in sweden. So i have to go to a Harley dealer to get them. But it is not a problem after all🙂. I have had some problems with fueltanks in the future. But today i know why👍. Thank you Mike🙂. Have a nice day. Kjell Blomstrand 🇸🇪😎.
Thank You, and you have a nice day.
Lookin good, always good to have friends with multiple talents and who are willing to lend a hand. ✌
Amen.
Thank you for sharing. Perhaps we need to change Cameraman Mike's name to Fabricator Mike, he did a nice job. Enjoyed.
Thank You. Yes he did.
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Damn, those tanks really tie the bike together.
I thought they would look good. Thank You
I like the tip of mounting the gas tank and shimming it properly as to not stress it.
It is "standard procedure." Thank You.
I do so appreciate all the work on the pan , just wondering about the sidecar build and the flat head ... keep up the good work ...
Can only concentrate on one thing at a time. We'll catch up.
That was a great update and explanation of all the challenges you encountered, good to see all the progress 👍
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Great advice Mike!!
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Thanks for the updates! Looking real good!
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Thanks Pacific Mike for the videos. Very helpful and have applied alot to my own from your videos.
Great to hear! Thank You
Great video. Thanks for posting
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Thanks for the update Mike , looking forward to the next installment bud !
Thanks 👍 Just waiting for a couple parts.
Hi Mike Jim from Massachusetts. I just wanted to let you know that my Softail rear brake caliper was my problem with the wheel locking up. I put a new Caliper and brakes on and we’re good to go. Thanks again Mike. If you are ever in Massachusetts let me know and we’ll get together for a ride
Cool. I've never been to Massachusetts. But, I'd like to. We'll see.
My 1340 is built up, ready to drop into frame….but need to dig old engine out and rebuild primary case….I might get to ride by next summer considering the lack of time!
I get it. Take it slow.
looking good Mike , That is right my word is precise , If it is not precise do not mess with it , Older or new They are always a hassle whatever you work on , But when you done you appreciate it ,
Be safe take care yourself MIKE
You too. And, right you are.
Pipe dreams are much better than “drag pipes”. (Especially at 70mph on the freeway with sparks flying). Old girl is coming right along.
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Pipe Dreams, that’s perfect name for Mike’s Pan ( that is the Mike whose pan you’re working on) lol
Thank You, but, her name is L.C. He got her from is Uncle Mike. Being that she was his child, She became Mike's "Little Cousin."
Lol any one can spend hard earned cash so called junk is a inventers dream story to tell gota like that thanks great vido mr. Fixit
Thank You. I enjoy what you have to say.
Love your videos and I can say that if you were to make videos as you go and show all the obstacles you might encounter with, with any possible swear words and sneering, I don’t think anyone would mind. Least of all me! Keep it up and all the best!
I appreciate that. But when a ten minute video stretches out for days...
Great work, Mike. Reminds me of the last panhead I acquired. It looked perfect until I began to get into it. I wound up to replace or repair appx 65 items on the bike!
I obviously understand.
"Pipe dreams".....LOL....right up there with " but it was junk" comment......wonderful fun....
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ThAnk you 😎🍻🇺🇸
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Love those tanks
Me too! Thank You
This is not a specific comment on this video, but all of your videos. They are very well done. Both you and 'Cameraman Mike' are the perfect pairing...like Batman and Robin, Jagger and Richards, Harley and Davidson. The fact that they are not edited gives them the feeling of hanging out with you guys. Also the content is well presented and easy to understand. One question. What brand of wheel chock is on your lift? I have a Harbor Freight lift and the chock is the weakest designed feature and I would like to replace it. I respect your opinion in advance. Keep up the good work!
It came from "Western Manufacturing." They make lifts and their accessories.
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I didn't care to hear about patience till 60 showed Up..lol...very hard procedure.. Blessings of PEACE..💯
I remember 60.
Mike really enjoy your channel it has been very helpful I’m restoring a 1949 Panhead fl I’m reassembling the front end any videos would be helpful
Go to our RUclips homepage and click on the word "videos." There are several on my '52 Pan.
Nice fabrication mike love it
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You're welcome
You might want to use a thumbscrew or better yet, a 1/4 turn fastener for securing the seat at the back fender just to make it easier to get to the oil tank..
I use an insert in the fender and a quarter inch bolt. It will be fine.
Just like a pan head lol y’all did great !!!
Panheads is cool.
@@pacificmike9501 oh yea I love
#SEE YOU ON THE ROAD
I'll look forward to it.
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Another great video Mr.Mike the old Panhead is coming along nice. Any updates on your Flathead you are building for yourself?
Yes. It needs time and money. We'll be there soon.
Mike , what does that chain on the brake pedal do ? i don't recall ever seeing one before .
I was wondering the same Never seen a chain there before
Back when chains were not as good as today's, we all carried extra links.
@@pacificmike9501 thanks , that's an interesting place to keep them !
I myself have worked on bikes that I worked on years ago and thought to myself what the hell was I thinking when I did that years ago , live and learn would like to think I'm a little better as I age .
I think it happens to all of us. I've had the pleasure of working on bikes, and then not seeing them for years. Then I'll work on it again and suddenly recognize something I made "in my youth."
The Frankenpan refuses to die, and chrome won't get you home.
You got it, Brother.
So when did H-D move to conventional bolted-on header design? Can't think that was very airtight, even for those lower compression motors.
That's true. Shovelheads bolted up. Yes, Panhead exhausts generally leak.
Mike, always great advice and information. A question regarding torque requirement at the exhaust port to pipe clamp. The concern here is expansion. I checked the service manual but did not see any specifics. Mine is a 1960 fl. Any recommendations? Thanks.
Good question. I will do the best I can. The first thing to be aware of is the clamps should not be what's holding the pipes up. The brackets below hold the pipes up. They support the weight. The clamps kind of seal the pipes to the heads and lend a little support. Don't "over-tighten." I've never seen a spec for what you're asking.
owning a pan head will keep you humble
Not anymore. Now, it's a symbol of "coolness."
@@pacificmike9501 true I love my pan but it truly keeps me humble, whether working on it or starting it. Some times starts on 1 kick other times could be 10 or more but she always starts
Yes, it's truly a "love" thing. Sometimes, a few kicks first, after not running it for a while, gets the cylinders oiled up to make more vacuum to suck the fuel in. Really helps when clearances are a bit "large." And helps when those cylinders are really cold. Then, turn on the fuel and it can really help get her going.
Hey Mike. Again. Love your vids.
I have an unrelated question.
My 78 shovel was sitting in a shop for 2 years. With this damn crappy gas.
So the left side tank has a rust line where the alcohol accumulated water.
Any suggestions as to how I can clean that out?
And is there a coating that can be poured in and spread around to protect the steel in the future?
She sits too much.
I imagined putting a bag full of 1/2" nuts and shaking it around or something like that.
Thanks brother for all the great info.
There are coatings and treatments on the market. I haven't used any of the latest and greatest. It really depends on how bad it is and if you're willing to risk losing your paint job. I would check with an automotive paint supplier.
@@pacificmike9501 thanks brother!
Mike....Is it common to use that red RTV Silicone on the cylinder base gasket like that? I don't think I have ever seen you do that....looks terrible...Good video, Thanks
It is gross. I'm just bringing this bike back to life for a dear friend. He'll have a head start, a Panhead to ride, and when he has time, it will be his job to restore to its original glory.
@@pacificmike9501 funny you would say that Mike, anytime I removed my pipes I always used that stuff. My clamps would hide it.
HOWdy MIKE,
Thank You for ALL the HINTS
What did you finally discover was wrong / incorrect in the flat steel washer on the Intake Push-Rod TUBE ?
was the WASHER the wrong size ( too BIG)
or was that portion of the Push-Rod TUBE too small ? ( Mis-Matched )
Perhaps that was why there were NO flat steel washers utilized when you DIS-assembled the Push-Rod TUBES ?
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Okay, you figured it out. Just stuff.
cool man just cool
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My name is Mike owner of bike Mike your Mike camera Mike ... Nice work crank it up !
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Hey Mike , I'm wondering how the fuel line is routed , isn't the carb. support
mount in the way ? I'm running a S&S super B on my shovel and want to put
a lower support on it but it will block the way for the fuel line which currently
is routed between the base of the cylinders , my S&S has a support bracket
bolted to the under side of the front rocker box . could you show the fuel line
routing in the next video ? , really have learned a lot from your videos thanks
for the great content
Go from the bottom up. The line functions just like a trap under your sink. Gravity will handle it for you.
@@pacificmike9501 I understand your answer , however I guess I didn't
describe my problem correctly , currently my fuel line from the tank
( the bike is a 73 flh , fat bob tanks ) petcock goes down and in
between the front and rear cylinders ( the fuel line sits on top of
the crank case ) then up to the carb. I plan to add a bottom support
for the carb. but it will block the path for the fuel line . I really don't
see any other way to route the fuel line when the bottom support is
in place , maybe I could make my own support that would be wide
enough to drill a hole large enough for the fuel line to pass through .
Thanks , Kris
There are brackets available to run the line through.
@@pacificmike9501 Thanks Mike , I'll look one line , any suggestions as to were to look ?
Any of the larger suppliers catalogs in the carburetion section.
Goodmorning Mr. Mike, I have a dumb question? Why do people cover the numbers on a frame, or engine, bike?
Good Morning! So they can't be traced to turn up all of your personal information.
Mike, what's that funky chain for on the brake lever/linkage?
Spare links. We didn't used to have the quality chains we have today.
That old 'squish pipe' always looked like a restriction to flow built right in from the factory to me. Is that the case? Just wonderin'...
You would think so, but they're better than having those pipes outboard and dragging the ground.
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Hi Mike been watching you for a good long while ,I like your video , I need a 1950 pan rebuilt , its a project I'm working on . Can you build it or can you hook me up with a builder that is good with old engines.
Don't have anyone to suggest at the moment. I, however, am retired.
look in a AMCA magazine, there are shops advertised in there that can rebuild your motor.
I've always thought the front pipe,with the squish was a terrible design. Is that Harleys idea? Every now and then I see a retainer spring holding the front cylinder exhaust pipe on the head, is that custom?
That "squish pipe" works fine. Better than having the pipe out where it can drag. Springs holding up the exhaust pipe, is one way of doing it. The earlier pipes, Knuckles and Flatheads, just had the pipe shoved into the port and needed to be supported.
@@pacificmike9501 I agree with, better than dragging it. But the squish can't be good for Performance.
Mike, seeing oil tank lines so close to rear pipe has me asking , ever rerouted for heat reasons .
There's only so much room. Never let them touch the pipes. Then there's air between them. Notice the feed line is down below. Good job by Harley.
@@pacificmike9501 , got it , just seams one could move them inboard some for better clearance . But understand your thoughts
The two lines showing are going into the tank. One is the return line from the motor, the other is a breather line from the motor. Does that help?
@@pacificmike9501 I live in Texas ,summer has motors temps pretty hot , always looking for ways to keep temps down
Don't know what motor you have. Too hot? Add an oil cooler. Notice there is one on my Shovelhead.
One man's junk...is another man's junk. I've worked on some shit too. No good deed goes unpunished lol
Well said!
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Good video mike and Camara man Mike working on other Mike's bike ..I'm droppin the Mike I'm out
We never planned it that way.
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@@pacificmike9501 I really enjoy your videos there very informative and you make it were even dumbasses like me can understand haha ..fxwg shovel head
Mike, when these older engines sit awhile and 'wet sump', how do you get the oil out of there, or do you just run it as is?
You run until it "b
You run it until it balances out again. The crankcase will run the extra oil out the breather hose. Don't forget to put a pan down.
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Is that a directional front tire ?
I'm sure it is. Now I'd better go look at it. I need to check it out and open the front brake anyway.
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Mike, I have a question about my 2001 Electra Glide, I was looking for an email address to send the question to, but don’t see one.
Is there an email you use, do I just ask it here?
Just, ask it here. I hope I can answer it.
@@pacificmike9501 cool,
I have an 01 FLHTCUI Shriner bike with the ever popular Magneti marelli injection system. It has, I believe only a stage 1 on it. I bought the bike in June and ran it all summer with little issue.
From time to time, when the bike was warm and on a hot day, it would idle at a stop light at 2k rpm. Now that it’s getting cooler (temps when I’m riding home from work vary from mid 40’s to high 30’s) the idle is a constant 2k once warmed up.
I’ve learned that the MM injection is finicky, but no one has offered up any “when this happens check this” advice. Is there any one thing I should check to get this thing to idle at a reasonable rpm without spending a load of cash to convert it to carb?
Well, you've got a good understanding of the problem. I don't know anyone who's good at diagnosing them. My experience with them is quite limited. My usual stab in the dark, with that system, is the temperature sensor. That's not a very professional answer, but it's all I got. It's usually it too.
@@pacificmike9501 that’s a start at least. I believe that’s on the head on the front cylinder. That whole injector system is a rabbit hole that I’m just gonna have to go down I think
If it's not too horribly expensive, try the temperature sensor. Yes, it's screwed into the front head. It is a blind hole. Very simple procedure. Just an educated guess.
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Mufflers ?
Empty.
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