VERY COMMON ISSUE! Mechanics put it back the way it comes in, despite the fact it came in with a problem. My 55 years of doing wrenching I can’t remember how many times employees said I just put it back the way it came in. First thing I tell new techs,” put it back right, not the way it comes in.”
I took my 2013 volester to dealer- fan switch bad. Got back- radio and some other things not working (fan working). Took back and they forgot to finish connecting wiring harness. They gave me free oil change. Great video
One of my most memorable repair stories is a '14 F150 3.5L I did front brakes on about 3 years ago. Took the left caliper off and pieces of the piston fell out. Pads were in the wrong spot and one of the pins on the back of what should have been the outboard pad, looked like it had been forced against and was what had broken the piston. They're phenolic, not metal. Called the customer, told him it needed new calipers because "It looks like someone beat the caliper on with a hammer and broke the piston." He was quiet for a few seconds and said, "Yeah, that was me." Now he doesn't miss a chance to remind me how he screwed it up, I called him on it, and now I'm the only one allowed to work on it. Edit: Forgot to mention, the core charge on the remanufactured calipers was more than the calipers cost! Pretty rare to have that happen. Guess they really wanted it back.
@garrysrepairandcustomspeed7583 it's wand and what exactly do you mean by this comment? No magic needed just a rotor mic and runout gauge is all you need
I have a 2017 Chevy 1500 and ever since I put on a big brake system my brakes pulse. Gonna look at this situation in the video, but as of now I still haven’t figured it out. Thanks for the video.
Sad part is that it's just incompetence all the way around and large shops getting rid of seasoned techs in favor on cheaper replacements. It's happens everywhere and it sucks. I've seen it happen at the dealer when I was still there. Glad to be an independent shop tech now. Good work.
Some seasoned techs are quitting because they make the same money they made 10 years ago, while the stealerships are making big money on parts and service.
This just goes to prove, that no matter who did the previous repairs, you cannot trust the work. You simply don't know their level of knowledge or skill(or lack thereof). Therefore you must check the work completely and secondly, you must be able to look at the item in question and actually understand what it is you are looking at and how it is supposed to go together. This is a lost skill in today's world. And many mechanic's don't have it. Good job finding and repairing the customers vehicle safely!❤😊@@garrysrepairandcustomspeed7583
"Patrick confidently stated he's never make that error as he shorts two wires together trying to wire up a junction box." :) (Don't be mad, Patrick. The electrician that rewired my house did that exact thing, then looked at me and yelled "Mark, what did you do?!" I was his helper, but that one was all on him.)
@ i know, i wrote electrician,just as a joke. To show that my advice is worthless in this situation. Also yes, apprentice are the ones responsible for the errors, and success are because of Master Electrician like me lol ( don't worry, i do errors too. I just like to blame the poor apprentice). All in good fun.
Just for future reference all the f150s and many others have a crimped bracket on the hose.....after a few years it rusts on the inside and collapses the hose won't let fluid back thus causing pulsating. I deal with this on a daily basis as that's what I have done for the last 25+ years....a technician that is. They now label most pads inner and outer.
I got a used truck that had dealer installed air conditioning. Never could use high fan speed without melting the in-line fuse. Dealer mechanics are the worst.
I love how you KNOW the dealership computer has a high-detail diagram with animation and instructions for the job and the guy STILL puts the donut in the flame broiler... I swear a 6 year old on roids could do the shop job these days with the diagrams and animation digital manuals. That the concept of putting the round part that covers the entire plunger on the back didn't immediately register, I get the "did what they did" part but yeesh. The problem with the theory that infinite monkeys with infinite typewriters could produce shakespear is the monkeys will always eat the paper and slam the typewriters on the floor first.
@@prjndigo yeah I get this crap all the time I call it the parts shelf I only have 1 magic wond and 2 Chrystal Balls but I do not use them to fix cars 😁
2004 PT Cruiser: failed front wheel bearing. Shop replaced them. Two months later, under 'warranty' replaced again. Three weeks later, same noise. Shop refused further repair. Took car to different shop for new wheel bearings. Two weeks later, same noise. THEREFORE I finally disassembled the hub and bearings. Took it to second Shop to show HUB was worn and bearing race spinning. The "Shop owner mechanic" looked at it and said, "It just needs new bearings!" wtf. I got a new hub and bearings - problem solved. 😢
@@ThisOldMan-ya472 they never torqued it to specification the bearing torque is a preload and with a new bearing is like setting up a rear differential preload
I have learned before it was ever installed. If I'm remembering correctly it was a MF to get the slides/bolts started/ lined up. Regardless it never left wrong.
🤨... So it didn't just occur to anyone that the humps would go into the cutouts on the piston-side of the caliper? I'm not even an actual mechanic and have done maybe 20-30 brake jobs in my life, but I know mostly from being in home repair and remodeling that sometimes, especially with roof repairs, you've just got to trust your own logic/intuition on how things SHOULD go together, rather than just following what the guy before you did... Otherwise you probably wouldn't be there to fix it.
Yeah I only got 1 magic wond and 2 Chrystal Balls but I don't use them to fix cars I get idiots crap every day that's why I'm know for actually fixing car's
3 times? How is there any chance of enough material being left after cutting them the first time. Rotors are so thin these days to begin with, not like 20-30 years ago where you could cut them after 15 years of hard use and still get quite a few more years from them.😂😢
@@garrysrepairandcustomspeed7583 the more material you remove the worse the braking performance is, you just increase the stopping distance which would be important especially when towing. There is also an increased chance of cracking a rotor under extreme conditions. Slotted rotors is all you need to both clean the pads and keep gas buildup from getting trapped between the rotor and pad surfaces under hard braking which causes brake fade. Unless you have huge rotors and large pads like a super-car and are driving on the track you don't need drilled rotors.
@garrysrepairandcustomspeed7583 For heat dissipation, yes. But overall, if you're only trying to stop, you want every square inch. Airbus, boeing, and safron have done exstinsive studys on this. Airplanes do not have drilled and slotted roters. Much faster and heavier.
@@invasivecoyote1361 if he was trying to get more out of his brakes he is best using a higher temp DOT 4 brake fluid and if he is really feeling froggy he can attach some scoops or dryer duct to the underside of the truck to divert more air towards the brake rotors. Maybe even replace the rubber brake hoses with braided steel lines for a better pedal feel.
And dealerships have detailed diagrams for every ford imaginable. Readily at hand. Unless your buying brand new or having services from them for warranty purposes, stay well away from them cowboys.....yeeee haaaaar
Seems to me you did not check how the Pads are supposed to be installed. In their correct place. Also, 'pulsations' can occure even with brand new Disks installed. It comes from a Wheel Hub that is a tiny bit 'off' alighnment. Put a Dial Indicator on the HUB to check. Unless the Hubs are true, all bets are off. 🇦🇺
@@garrysrepairandcustomspeed7583I I think he's talking about the hub surface where are the back of the rotor makes contact. Nowadays I'll clean them up with a wire cup wheel and maybe some 100-150 grit, then put on a very, VERY thin coat of grease or anti-seize on the mating surface. Just the smallest flake of rust can tilt the rotor out of true enough to feel it.
What if the guy before you didn't put the dumb things on correctly to begin with you'd be sitting there with your finger up your nose trying to figure out how to do it. It just goes to show you it's always something.
I made a huge mistake of putting ceramic pads on my FJ. They messed up my rotors. I thought my mechanic would have told me they’re not compatible. I found out they weren’t almost a year after I put them on.
The pads are different compound inner/outer. That's why they look different. My guess is the running this type brake jobs thru the Quick Lane where guys have 3 weeks experience.
K.... ecoboost.... ecotec isnt in the f150. Also, brake jobs are done by quicklubers.... they are not the smartest. If it was done by an actual tech it wouldve or shouldve atleast be correct. Plus, its not the fault of the vehicle that caused the problem. I cant stand fords either but i work on them everyday. Just gotta be smarter than the vehicle or atleast smarter than the engineers.
the dealership doesnt even do it right LMAOOOO
VERY COMMON ISSUE! Mechanics put it back the way it comes in, despite the fact it came in with a problem. My 55 years of doing wrenching I can’t remember how many times employees said I just put it back the way it came in. First thing I tell new techs,” put it back right, not the way it comes in.”
@@andrewliebfried3120 yeah I get this crap all the time I'm always fixing other people's mistakes
I took my 2013 volester to dealer- fan switch bad. Got back- radio and some other things not working (fan working). Took back and they forgot to finish connecting wiring harness. They gave me free oil change. Great video
One of my most memorable repair stories is a '14 F150 3.5L I did front brakes on about 3 years ago. Took the left caliper off and pieces of the piston fell out. Pads were in the wrong spot and one of the pins on the back of what should have been the outboard pad, looked like it had been forced against and was what had broken the piston. They're phenolic, not metal.
Called the customer, told him it needed new calipers because "It looks like someone beat the caliper on with a hammer and broke the piston." He was quiet for a few seconds and said, "Yeah, that was me." Now he doesn't miss a chance to remind me how he screwed it up, I called him on it, and now I'm the only one allowed to work on it.
Edit: Forgot to mention, the core charge on the remanufactured calipers was more than the calipers cost! Pretty rare to have that happen. Guess they really wanted it back.
Also there are very few rotors out there that can actually be turned without going below spec....even straight pit of the box.
Yeah I get this all the time I call it the parts shelf I only have 1 magic wond and 2 Chrystal Balls but I do not use them to fix cars
@garrysrepairandcustomspeed7583 it's wand and what exactly do you mean by this comment? No magic needed just a rotor mic and runout gauge is all you need
I have a 2017 Chevy 1500 and ever since I put on a big brake system my brakes pulse. Gonna look at this situation in the video, but as of now I still haven’t figured it out. Thanks for the video.
Sad part is that it's just incompetence all the way around and large shops getting rid of seasoned techs in favor on cheaper replacements. It's happens everywhere and it sucks. I've seen it happen at the dealer when I was still there. Glad to be an independent shop tech now. Good work.
@@christianrodgers6046 thanks I also agree about how bad the service industry has become I get crap like this everyday
Some seasoned techs are quitting because they make the same money they made 10 years ago, while the stealerships are making big money on parts and service.
This just goes to prove, that no matter who did the previous repairs, you cannot trust the work. You simply don't know their level of knowledge or skill(or lack thereof). Therefore you must check the work completely and secondly, you must be able to look at the item in question and actually understand what it is you are looking at and how it is supposed to go together. This is a lost skill in today's world. And many mechanic's don't have it. Good job finding and repairing the customers vehicle safely!❤😊@@garrysrepairandcustomspeed7583
First things first if you see that the pads are not the same you then investigate why!
This maybe whats wrong with mine! I'll check it out, thanks for the vid.
@@gavsmith5 no problem
I would've NEVER do this stupid error!
Patrick,Electrician.
"Patrick confidently stated he's never make that error as he shorts two wires together trying to wire up a junction box." :)
(Don't be mad, Patrick. The electrician that rewired my house did that exact thing, then looked at me and yelled "Mark, what did you do?!" I was his helper, but that one was all on him.)
@ i know, i wrote electrician,just as a joke. To show that my advice is worthless in this situation. Also yes, apprentice are the ones responsible for the errors, and success are because of Master Electrician like me lol ( don't worry, i do errors too. I just like to blame the poor apprentice). All in good fun.
@@ayuse01 :)
Just for future reference all the f150s and many others have a crimped bracket on the hose.....after a few years it rusts on the inside and collapses the hose won't let fluid back thus causing pulsating. I deal with this on a daily basis as that's what I have done for the last 25+ years....a technician that is. They now label most pads inner and outer.
Thank you for that tip. Much appreciated
Yeah no problem thanks for watching
Should have been fixed at PDI. Good work.
@@ronwade2206 thanks
I got a used truck that had dealer installed air conditioning. Never could use high fan speed without melting the in-line fuse.
Dealer mechanics are the worst.
@@MrMunchman69 yeah that sounds like a bad wire or loose connection
I love how you KNOW the dealership computer has a high-detail diagram with animation and instructions for the job and the guy STILL puts the donut in the flame broiler... I swear a 6 year old on roids could do the shop job these days with the diagrams and animation digital manuals.
That the concept of putting the round part that covers the entire plunger on the back didn't immediately register, I get the "did what they did" part but yeesh.
The problem with the theory that infinite monkeys with infinite typewriters could produce shakespear is the monkeys will always eat the paper and slam the typewriters on the floor first.
@@prjndigo yeah I get this crap all the time I call it the parts shelf I only have 1 magic wond and 2 Chrystal Balls but I do not use them to fix cars 😁
2004 PT Cruiser: failed front wheel bearing. Shop replaced them. Two months later, under 'warranty' replaced again. Three weeks later, same noise. Shop refused further repair. Took car to different shop for new wheel bearings. Two weeks later, same noise. THEREFORE I finally disassembled the hub and bearings. Took it to second Shop to show HUB was worn and bearing race spinning. The "Shop owner mechanic" looked at it and said, "It just needs new bearings!" wtf. I got a new hub and bearings - problem solved. 😢
@@ThisOldMan-ya472 they never torqued it to specification the bearing torque is a preload and with a new bearing is like setting up a rear differential preload
@@ThisOldMan-ya472 they torque the wheel lugs tighter idiots
@garrysrepairandcustomspeed7583 That was not the initial problem. The factory original bearing had seized and the inner race spun on the hub.
The old saying goes " When you assume you make an ass out of you and me "
"The shop manual/ALLDATA/etc. is your friend."
But the stealership mechanics are even worse!!
Yes made this mistake before!
I have learned before it was ever installed. If I'm remembering correctly it was a MF to get the slides/bolts started/ lined up. Regardless it never left wrong.
@ did it to my own truck and quickly fixed once I drove it and realized
Some muppets only have Eyes painted on..😂😂
@@rebekahfrench5747 yeah right thank God I don't run on strings 😔
@garrysrepairandcustomspeed7583 as we go we find more and more shop failures its getting bad.. carry on..👍
@@rebekahfrench5747 yeah bad for them really good for me 😁
🤨... So it didn't just occur to anyone that the humps would go into the cutouts on the piston-side of the caliper?
I'm not even an actual mechanic and have done maybe 20-30 brake jobs in my life, but I know mostly from being in home repair and remodeling that sometimes, especially with roof repairs, you've just got to trust your own logic/intuition on how things SHOULD go together, rather than just following what the guy before you did... Otherwise you probably wouldn't be there to fix it.
Yeah I only got 1 magic wond and 2 Chrystal Balls but I don't use them to fix cars I get idiots crap every day that's why I'm know for actually fixing car's
@garrysrepairandcustomspeed7583 I think you missed my point... and mistook my advice as criticism.
... All too common.
Them F150s chew threw brake pads 😅
3 times? How is there any chance of enough material being left after cutting them the first time. Rotors are so thin these days to begin with, not like 20-30 years ago where you could cut them after 15 years of hard use and still get quite a few more years from them.😂😢
Dont run Drilled rotors for a street car especially a truck. Slotted is the best way to go.
@@v4lhulme no way drilled and slotted have the best performance yes at some point you will have to clean the rotors plus he tows a boat
@@garrysrepairandcustomspeed7583 the more material you remove the worse the braking performance is, you just increase the stopping distance which would be important especially when towing. There is also an increased chance of cracking a rotor under extreme conditions. Slotted rotors is all you need to both clean the pads and keep gas buildup from getting trapped between the rotor and pad surfaces under hard braking which causes brake fade. Unless you have huge rotors and large pads like a super-car and are driving on the track you don't need drilled rotors.
@garrysrepairandcustomspeed7583 For heat dissipation, yes. But overall, if you're only trying to stop, you want every square inch. Airbus, boeing, and safron have done exstinsive studys on this. Airplanes do not have drilled and slotted roters. Much faster and heavier.
@@invasivecoyote1361 if he was trying to get more out of his brakes he is best using a higher temp DOT 4 brake fluid and if he is really feeling froggy he can attach some scoops or dryer duct to the underside of the truck to divert more air towards the brake rotors. Maybe even replace the rubber brake hoses with braided steel lines for a better pedal feel.
@invasivecoyote1361 the holes dispate the gases so you don't get brake pedal fade when they get loaded especially when towing
And dealerships have detailed diagrams for every ford imaginable. Readily at hand. Unless your buying brand new or having services from them for warranty purposes, stay well away from them cowboys.....yeeee haaaaar
Depends on what one you go to. Kind of like your mom and aunts...
Seems to me you did not check how the Pads are supposed to be installed. In their correct place.
Also, 'pulsations' can occure even with brand new Disks installed. It comes from a Wheel Hub that is a tiny bit 'off' alighnment. Put a Dial Indicator on the HUB to check. Unless the Hubs are true, all bets are off. 🇦🇺
@@MelodyMan69 nothing wrong with the bearings but that does happen also I followed the guy that put them on before me until I found the issue
@@garrysrepairandcustomspeed7583I I think he's talking about the hub surface where are the back of the rotor makes contact. Nowadays I'll clean them up with a wire cup wheel and maybe some 100-150 grit, then put on a very, VERY thin coat of grease or anti-seize on the mating surface. Just the smallest flake of rust can tilt the rotor out of true enough to feel it.
@@MelodyMan69 yeah I get this crap all the time I only have 1 magic wand and 2 crystal balls but I don't use them to fix cars
Stupid is as stupid does.
Those bumps are for the pistons, they line up with them. Some brand pads will be marked inside and outside or inboard outboard.
What if the guy before you didn't put the dumb things on correctly to begin with you'd be sitting there with your finger up your nose trying to figure out how to do it. It just goes to show you it's always something.
@@jimknight2041 yeah I was scratching my head for a minute yeah someone else left this for me I'm used to this crap I get it all the time
Replacement of 3 rubber hoses is advised due to age of vehicle
Yeah I checked the hoses are just fine
@garrysrepairandcustomspeed7583 over 5 years old replacement is needed
Yeah I don't think so
@garrysrepairandcustomspeed7583 our shop does the job correctly or not at all thats why 56 years in business
@quagmiredavis4117 I don't over sell
PAY ATTENTION and I always put new rotors on
First rule if the caliber doesn't want to go back on stop and look at alldata or do research.
@@CordaleTaylor-d4c or just find the problem that no Data will not tell you 😞
people who say caliber instead of caliper hurt my brain
@@garrysrepairandcustomspeed7583Agreed I've never resolved a brake issue whether Alldata or the others. Most all give telltale signs
You cant change the caliber on a gun
First rule: Spell caliper correctly.
I made a huge mistake of putting ceramic pads on my FJ. They messed up my rotors. I thought my mechanic would have told me they’re not compatible. I found out they weren’t almost a year after I put them on.
Not your fault Fords are crap. They should have made the pads symmetrical like most manufacturers
100%! Leave it to Ford to screw up a basic design principle! 😂
The pads are different compound inner/outer. That's why they look different. My guess is the running this type brake jobs thru the Quick Lane where guys have 3 weeks experience.
@@gailtaylor1636 another question would be WTF would they make the compounds different?? Ford being Ford I guess. Stupid
@@sierracat Because the pistons keep the pads contacting the rotors. Run hotter. Needs different compound.
This shows that mechanics that know what they are working on do not just follow what is done before.
very rarely do i work on something without wondering... "who the F did THIS?"
Yes I get this all the time I call it the parts shelf I only have 1 magic wond and 2 Chrystal Balls but I do not use them to fix cars 😁
Yeah I get this all the time I call it the parts shelf I only have 1 magic wond and 2 Chrystal Balls but I do not use them to fix cars
K.... ecoboost.... ecotec isnt in the f150. Also, brake jobs are done by quicklubers.... they are not the smartest. If it was done by an actual tech it wouldve or shouldve atleast be correct. Plus, its not the fault of the vehicle that caused the problem. I cant stand fords either but i work on them everyday. Just gotta be smarter than the vehicle or atleast smarter than the engineers.
this is why i will never own a ford 😂