XPpen Artist Pro 19 (Gen 2) - review

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  • Опубликовано: 25 дек 2024

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  • @Endangereds
    @Endangereds Месяц назад +14

    XP-Pen is really good because it works on Linux. I will always choose Linux supporting Hardware anytime over popular brands which wont support Linux, even when I have windows on dual boot. And this is the one company which is still Innovating and experimenting with features at hardware level. That wheel on the pen is one such innovation and providing a remote control with shortcuts is superb compared to Costliest brands. No need to mention customizable buttons.

  • @kaue-sena
    @kaue-sena Месяц назад +7

    Hi, David! It was nice to receive the notification for a new video of yours. I have not been practicing over the last year, but I want to get back to digital painting using Krita some time in the future. With your commitment to libre and open source software and your great artistic style, your tutorials and videos have always been inspiring and instructive. I will certainly come back to your excellent videos once I take up this hobby again. Thank you for all the great videos. Cheers from Brazil!

  • @mari_am2222
    @mari_am2222 Месяц назад +4

    This is a really great review!
    I loved how you showed the heat, color and pressure sensitivity tests. It's something that's very hard to find in reviews here on RUclips.
    Great work, congrats and thanks for the great content!

  • @exlux3465
    @exlux3465 Месяц назад +2

    Дэвид,спасибо!Я никогда не видела чтобы так подходили к обзору планшетов.Вы очень подробно и понятно все рассказали.Я посмотрела видео взахлест♥️

  • @don-dori
    @don-dori Месяц назад +2

    I've never seen anyone do a scratch test on a pen display before! Awesome review, David. 👍

    • @DavidRevoy
      @DavidRevoy  Месяц назад +3

      Thank you! Yes, it's a bit of a heartbreak thing to do on a new device, but I thought it's useful to finally know how resistant these things really are. And worst case scenario for me: I could scratch a tiny corner.
      Fun fact: this scene I filmed was out of focus, so I had to do it a second time; that's probably why on the final shot I use the keys/cutter knife/etc... stronger, because I'm already confident with the result.

    • @don-dori
      @don-dori Месяц назад +1

      Haha, mad respect for that. I know you didn't buy it yourself but it's still something you intend to use. Now we all know the screen is indeed safe from pen tip scratches. 😁👌

  • @SosyalMedyaArge-so5bs
    @SosyalMedyaArge-so5bs Месяц назад +3

    This is one of my dream devices.

  • @SelkG4m3r
    @SelkG4m3r Месяц назад +1

    Now THIS is a review! Great job David

  • @stonewashedskies
    @stonewashedskies Месяц назад +1

    Very well done and in-depth review! I loved watching it.

  • @jamesbullo
    @jamesbullo Месяц назад +1

    Fantastic review. I'm still using XP-Pen Artist Pro 24 inch with the 20 express keys and dials. I wish they would update this in 4k with the buttons and dials but alas it seems not to be.

    • @DavidRevoy
      @DavidRevoy  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks! Oh yes, I have also this model; I love how the hand can wrap around the frame and the tickness of the frame and buttons. It feels good while drawing.
      It looks like nowaday the trend is to remove all buttons and putting in the box the keydial/remote for everything.The end of an era of physical buttons.

  • @yuger456
    @yuger456 21 день назад

    Thank you so much for the review!
    You have a very nice interior.
    And your cat is very cute 😻

  • @GhostCry100
    @GhostCry100 Месяц назад +1

    This was an amazing review. Wow

  • @MaxPenguine
    @MaxPenguine 13 дней назад

    Thank you for OSD menu info! :)

    • @DavidRevoy
      @DavidRevoy  12 дней назад +1

      hehe, I'm glad it could help! I discovered it on my 16 gen2 by accident almost. I saw the power button, the Volume + and volume - , and thought about it as a cellphone, and started to play with the "what if" idea of engineers hiding a test mode or a special feature. I wasn't disappointed!

    • @MaxPenguine
      @MaxPenguine 12 дней назад

      @@DavidRevoy I got 16 gen2 :) wish things like that are written on paper that goes with it. Wish I could try it now on my old 15.6 pro! XDD

  • @_mrcrypt
    @_mrcrypt Месяц назад +1

    Thank you 😻

  • @dookcurruff9047
    @dookcurruff9047 Месяц назад +1

    thanks david!

  • @MarcoKrieger
    @MarcoKrieger Месяц назад +1

    Hi David, it's been a while since you posted a video.
    Glad you are doing well and making art using FOSS.
    Besides the Tablet you presented in this video, which I can't afford right now but it's definitely worth to consider, is there any change in your Linux setup?
    I recall the last article in the Linux section of your website was about Debian 12 with KDE Plasma desktop environment.

    • @DavidRevoy
      @DavidRevoy  Месяц назад +2

      Hey, thank you, everything is fine and sorry for the low production of video content. I sort of get disgusted by clickbait titles and AIgen thumbnails on RUclips for a long period, but it looks like this type of trend of "The truth about...." "Shocked faces on thumbnails" So I took a pause of creating this type of content, and I have been active on other place (mainly Mastodon and blog).
      I still have Debian 12 KDE, and it's a big joy. I also put it on my laptop. It's really a production power house. I setup a spare laptop to a Fedora 41 also Plasma and Gnome to follow and give feedback on development (it's a system I can break with silly experimentation, like recompiling a big library).
      I'll post today another review (hazard of the calendar, the Huion brand also sent me a device to test and ask for a release date of today).
      Thank you for watching!

    • @MarcoKrieger
      @MarcoKrieger Месяц назад +1

      @DavidRevoy Thanks for answering so quick.
      I absolutely can relate to what you said about those kind of content.
      It seems it's getting worse lately, so people like you are crucial to hold the standards on a certain level.
      Just out of curiosity, do you have any plans to join on BlueSky?

  • @KaosNoKamisama
    @KaosNoKamisama Месяц назад +4

    That's how you make a review! Very good info.
    May I ask if you can access the "secret" configuration menu on the pro 16 too?

    • @DavidRevoy
      @DavidRevoy  Месяц назад +2

      Hey, thank you! Yes, it's exactly the same manipulation of the buttons, but the result (OSD) menu is different. The tablet also starts in a "test mode" for the logo. I discovered it a bit late after my video on the 16. It was reported later on the blog post of the 16.
      Same for the overlay surface of the 16: similar to this 19 and in a big year of production it is without a scratch. Very cool quality.

  • @SchwarzeSun
    @SchwarzeSun Месяц назад +1

    best review

  • @qowaidulumam
    @qowaidulumam 5 дней назад

    Can't wait for mine to be delivered, Where I stay, I have to Pre-order it for like 30 days :')

    • @DavidRevoy
      @DavidRevoy  5 дней назад

      Oh no. It might be they are victim of their own success and shortage of stock. I remember it was a bit like that when the 16 model was released last year. I hope the wait is soon over for yours!

  • @EverHazy_Games
    @EverHazy_Games 23 дня назад

    I really appreciate your thorough review!
    Edit:
    Have you also tested the screen heat while the stand is attached? The stand looks like it at least partially, if not fully blocks the heat vents on the top of the tablet... Would be interesting to see if there's a difference.
    Also, maybe next time ask if XP would consider expanding your discount code usage to worldwide, as I would have preferred to use yours. (I'm in Canada.)

    • @DavidRevoy
      @DavidRevoy  23 дня назад

      Hey, no problem for the promo code: I earn nothing on it, and I don't want manufacturers to imagine my code are "good seller", the only effect I want is for you all to benefit a coupon and save a bit money, that's why I put them. Also, I asked for world wide offer, but all I could get was this 5 or 6 links (still better than the original single link I had).
      Oh! I haven't noticed the stand was on the way of the heat dissipation grid. That's a good observation. I'll check it next time I rescrew it because right now I'm just using with it my wooden DIY stand. Thank you!

  • @don-dori
    @don-dori Месяц назад +2

    Hi, David! I wonder if it would be possible to use an U-Shape (180 degree) or even L-Shape (90 degree) USB-C adapter to get rid of the "ugly" cable on top. Unsure if any USB-C fits XP-Pen's slot or they have proprietary one (some have weird indents and such).
    Obviously it would have to be one with 4k+ Res at 60Hz passthrough with both data and power transfer, but they are quite cheap.
    Using such adapter would lead the slot downwards or beneath the screen. In case of U-Shape one, it would have to be wide enough to fit the display thickness. Only downside is that you wouldn't be able to lay the screen flat on the desk with it but nobody does that anyway. 😄

    • @DavidRevoy
      @DavidRevoy  Месяц назад +2

      Hey, Yes, it would need a beefy USB-C cable, but maybe a Female to Male one, to extend this cable (because it is a 2 in one cable, and even a 3 in one cable: power supply, USB, and HDMI and it's connected to the hub that split cables without a plug).

    • @don-dori
      @don-dori Месяц назад +1

      Yes, I meant female to male adapter/extension. There are ones with both data and power transfer so it should work, but never seen anyone do it yet. I noticed everyone is complaining about the look of the cable so I'm wondering how nobody tried that cosmetic fix. 😀
      U-shape would barely be visible on the top and the cable would connect behind the screen.

    • @DavidRevoy
      @DavidRevoy  Месяц назад +2

      @@don-dori For sure, I'll check that on the stores and post an update about it on the blog post with a photo if I find a good one. I can invest at least that, and this thing would really enhance this device, I'm just always worrying about scam with USB-C: getting a cable that melt under the too many amps, or with not enough frequency for the 4K screen. I'll have for sure to test.

    • @don-dori
      @don-dori Месяц назад +1

      @@DavidRevoy That is indeed something to be careful about. 👍

  • @hexdump8590
    @hexdump8590 Месяц назад +2

    Great video. So, it seems it works pretty well on linux (Fedora here) doesn't it?

    • @DavidRevoy
      @DavidRevoy  Месяц назад +3

      Yes, it has few remaining issues and also the situation is not similar on Wayland or X11, or Gnome or Plasma (or something else). I list and detail that on the blog post but I'm working also on it (to report and diagnose the device to more skilled dev who knows the input stack).

  • @shade0636
    @shade0636 13 дней назад

    11:40 What software are you using to display all those reference images on the right monitor? I would really appreciate it.

    • @DavidRevoy
      @DavidRevoy  12 дней назад

      Hey, it's named BeeRef beeref.org/ , and yes, my second monitor is often a massive BeeRef file like that (and various apps of chat). I love it.

    • @shade0636
      @shade0636 12 дней назад

      @DavidRevoy Thank you so much.

  • @owendavies8227
    @owendavies8227 Месяц назад +3

    I think the scroll wheel is for changing brush size for people with that workflow. I don't know if it would be worth trying to change the sensitivity in xinput or something.

    • @DavidRevoy
      @DavidRevoy  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you. I can have a look, but it is the type of "smooth scroll wheel" so it is even hard to know when it is changed. but maybe if I find a way to set a sensitivity like "record an event only if a 1/4 of the wheel is turned" , it could work.
      If I find something, I'll report it on the blog post. It shouldn't be too hard(TM) because I already deactivated the wheel with xinput, so I know the way to access and list all the option. Thank you for the suggestion.

  • @Collect_Call_
    @Collect_Call_ 22 дня назад

    The scroll wheel is dope, I use it for brush size.

  • @briantium
    @briantium 27 дней назад

    Great review. I had the XP-Pen Artist Pro 16 but returned it because it wasn't bright enough for what I'm used to. Did you notice any distinct difference in brightness between the 16 and the 19? I know they both list at 250 nits, but I've seen other reviews state the 19 is brighter. As someone who's used to a 500 nit monitor and iPad Pro, I really struggle adjusting to the dimmer pen displays (although I realize they don't need to be as bright since you are closer to the screen) but I found myself wishing it could go just a bit brighter. If the 19 does that, I may go that route; the 16 was *so* close to being ideal, but I knew I wouldn't be able to settle.

    • @vertakin
      @vertakin 24 дня назад +1

      did you make sure to plug it into a power outlet? I have the 14 and 19 and for the screen to be at its brightest, you need to connect it to an additional power source along with using the usb c data cable

    • @briantium
      @briantium 24 дня назад

      @@vertakin Yes I did use a power outlet, although I did not notice a marked difference than when I just used the USB-C cable. Another reviewer stated he measured the 19's brightness at a higher nit than the 16, so I was curious.

  • @komodokr9533
    @komodokr9533 Месяц назад

    OOT Question* is it posssible to share a krita workspace setup? im kinda interested on your setup, and too lazy to drag and lock the docks lol.
    And secondly how to update krita ? Mine is still 5,5,2 ver, do i need to reinstall it and backup my workspace setup?

    • @DavidRevoy
      @DavidRevoy  Месяц назад +1

      Hey, I'll see what I can do to share my workspace; but it might take time. I detailed that in a video (the one with Kiki, and illustration from A to Z, in the intro). Check it, it's a 1min move of dockers around.
      About updating your Krita, it depends how you installed it in the first place and on what system. But if it is on Windows with the installer from the website (I say this, because statistic) you just need to download the new version and install as far as I know. it shouldn't erase your user preferences. (but you can go before to Setting, Manage Ressource, Open Ressource folder and copy/backup all the content of this directoty before to be safe).

    • @komodokr9533
      @komodokr9533 Месяц назад

      @DavidRevoy Got it!! , thanks for the reply,

  • @CenturionF72
    @CenturionF72 Месяц назад +1

    Some people said that has got some problems with the pencil disconnect from the tablet randomly, Did you notice any issues with the pencil disconnect ?

    • @DavidRevoy
      @DavidRevoy  Месяц назад +2

      Not a single one, but maybe it's a driver issue on a specific architecture. I wouldn't be surprise if it is the proprietary driver. It's a user space driver, so in the lasagna of the input stack, it's often the last layer, and this layer has to fight to take the privilege above all other underneath code that often reconfigure themselves for many events (sleep/hot plug/etc).
      That's why I love using it with only FLOSS on X11: it's deeper in the stack, and more stable. I'm sure the WIP Wayland impementation will be also very robust once all the settings will be exposed correctly.

    • @CenturionF72
      @CenturionF72 Месяц назад +1

      @@DavidRevoy thank you for replying and thank you for fantastic review. Any plans to review the 24 pro 2nd gen in the future? I am planing to buy one but not sure if the 19 in of 24 dilema of size

    • @DavidRevoy
      @DavidRevoy  Месяц назад +2

      @@CenturionF72 Ok, I'll see, nothing planed but I don't know how I'll react if I have the opportunity by email: this type of review takes too much time to shoot, edit and do the research so it is always hard to manage. They even also make me loose followers xD I'll better post for the next contents more tutorials, comics, brushes, and artworks.

  • @MikeLugnegard
    @MikeLugnegard 29 дней назад

    So how does it stack up against the Huion? Why do you prefer this one (you said you would switch to this instead of the 16")?

    • @DavidRevoy
      @DavidRevoy  29 дней назад +1

      Oh yes, I don't know if it stack up, but it is certainly very similar. Before this two reviews, I had the XPpen Artist Pro 16 (gen2) as my main tablet for a year (love it), so after I finished the review, switching to the 19 Artist Pro (gen2) was super easy, and I felt at home with the pressure sensitivity, the overlay surface, and the tech of the stylus. So, just because I had many illustration to do (the campaign for 20 years anniversarry of Framasoft) I just went with the one I already felt confident to get work done.
      The Huion Kamvas Pro 19 has something that attracts me: the clear overlay surface is a bit smooth for me, but I like how it makes the dark (black pixels) feels a tiny more deeper. I enjoyed painting the example picture on it. Maybe this feeling will grow in me. It is still on my test bench, connected to a laptop. I'm trying to test things to accelerate its support by default on Wayland. One downside about it I haven't listed on my review was the aluminium frame has a small gap and the hair of my arms get sometime stuck in it, so It sort of shave a bit the inner part of my forearm ^ ^

  • @apisre9382
    @apisre9382 Месяц назад

    I would like to know your opinion now I am hesitating between xppen artist pro 19 (gen2) and xppen artist pro 16 (gen 2) in terms of the difference in details and value for money and portability, also the screen resolution that is suitable for actual use between 4k and 2K compared to the screen size. I know you have both of these pen displays, maybe you can recommend me.

    • @apisre9382
      @apisre9382 29 дней назад

      @DavidRevoy Please advise me. It's black friday now.

    • @DavidRevoy
      @DavidRevoy  29 дней назад +1

      @@apisre9382 Hey, the 16 has in advantages to be more portable: slightly smaller, also it can be powered and transfert data by a single USB-C cable to a laptop (so better for roaming). The default stylus with it is perfect. The cons: the screen has a 16:10 ratio, and can be more difficult to use it cloned to another monitor, or to produce 16:9 video speedpaint with it. But the resolution (number of pixel per inch) is dense, and comfort of drawing, tilt, overlay surface is similar to the 19".
      The 19" has more heat, require a power outlet, and come with the two stylus (it needs IMO as I say on the review a classic one in the basket). The 4K resolution is a bit overkill (but you can reduce it, I use mine as a QuadHD, so, same in a way than on the 16inch). It's slightly larger and it has 16:9. So consider the 19" offers an extra 15% of comfort, but the price to get it might not be proportional to just 15% more. Good luck deciding it, and don't be affraid: whatever your choice, it's two amazing devices for drawing and incredibly professional in my opinion.

    • @apisre9382
      @apisre9382 29 дней назад

      @@DavidRevoy Thank you very much for your useful details and suggestions. It was very helpful for me. I will follow your channel content with detailed, honest and helpful reviews.

  • @adnanadnan12337
    @adnanadnan12337 Месяц назад +3

    1440p is good for this size, 4k is kinda overkill

    • @DavidRevoy
      @DavidRevoy  Месяц назад +2

      I totally agree. The good thing here: you can downgrade the resolution on the display settings and the result has enough ppi to still be sharp. I'll use mine only in this resolution mode for sure, because otherwise the text, icons, buttons are too small (and display scaling on Linux is buggy, especially on X11 with multi monitor so not an option).

  • @capedbaldie5889
    @capedbaldie5889 Месяц назад +1

    youre alive?

    • @tristen_grant
      @tristen_grant Месяц назад +1

      He has written blog posts recently.

    • @DavidRevoy
      @DavidRevoy  Месяц назад +3

      Oh yes, very much so and very active on my blog and Mastodon (and also Instagram), but I admit I'm not active on RUclips for content.
      I'm also using my channel as a "video hosting" for my blog post and not really a social media in itself where poeple follow only the videos. I'm probably wrong about modern usage.
      I was away from video editing a bit because mainly disgusted by the trend of big click bait title ("the truth about...."), thumbnails with shocked emotion face in big, or thumbnail with AI art. This, plus the Shorts made me feel like the platform was looking more and more like TikTok.
      But now I feel more and more "this like that now" and accept it. I'll try to post more soon. Thanks for the message!

  • @CrazyLuke11
    @CrazyLuke11 Месяц назад +1

    First 🎉
    Probably a nice review 😂

    • @DavidRevoy
      @DavidRevoy  Месяц назад +7

      Congrats for being first! Here is your medal: 🥇