I really like your reviews because you take such care in showing the drawing experience itself. The strokes, the diagonal lines, the dots, joining separate lines and all these tests you do are very valuable information. Thank You! Seeing your tests of these two models side-by-side makes all the difference. What did you think of the texture of the screens of each of them, Teoh?
Great review, as usual Teoh. I have the Huion Kanvas 19 4k and it is excellent. It is my first pen monitor, so I have nothing else to compare. It works perfectly, the lines are great, the colors are wonderful and the touch capabilities are perfect for me.
I had bought the Kamvas 19, noticed a sale on the XPPen 19 and ended up saving $300 and returning the Kamvas. The Kamvas screen was a deal breaker being too blurry for me, but the bezels were smaller and the build quality was a bit better on the accessories like the drawing glove and pencil case. However, the software and keybindings with the bluetooth pads i found to be frustrating and not intuitive in comparison to XPPen. I also didn't find myself needing the touch, and I come from drawing on an iPad and this being my first pen tablet.
Thanks for this! I have the Huion 19 14k and while I learned to live with it, it had some quirks that needed getting used to. The lines on my standard pen were badly wobbly- apparently the pen was faulty out of the box. Luckily I bought it from a physical store and could claim warranty. But even now, with Mac from 2017 running Monterey, the pen was giving me horseshoe strokes ( the hooks at the end of each stroke, yes?). Had to switch to my Windows computer to get decent functioning strokes. Now on Windows: Even more annoying, sometimes tapping the screen with the pen nib won't register as a mouse press- I have to default to a mouse to click on something. Also, the screen feels super saturated, I'm not getting accurate colors on my screen. The final thing that bothers me about the Huion is that it's fuzzy and feels dim...not at all what I expected from a 4k display. That pop-up pen menu also irritates me! I don't know how to disable it (I may need to go into the drivers again). And speaking of which...the drivers were a pain to install on the Mac! I was upgrading from a first edition Huion Kamvas 22 Pro, which was only FHD but was wonderfully bright and had great color saturation.
If you're using Mac, the fuzzy-ness could due to MacOS's inability to handle UI scaling properly. You can install BetterDisplay app to handle the UI scaling instead. github.com/waydabber/BetterDisplay
Can only speak for Kamvas 19 pro which i got yesterday at a ridiculous bargain on Black friday(week in europe). I'm not going back to Wacom. Had a cintiq 22 before.It's like moving forward 8-10 years in terms of technology and quality. This review is very accurate in my experience too. Only thing i was worried about was the blurriness which honestly.. is not a big deal at all. I can't notice it unless i put my eye very close to the screen. Great product. Not sure if Wacom can even compete anymore in the low / mid segment.
@@dhimankalita1690 for triple the price, i would've cried like a bitch if it didn't. But i presume you have used the Huion? I've only used the Cintiq 22 none pro one with pro pen2 and the Huion wins over that one. But that tablet uses very old technology but since they are roughly in the same price range, those are the ones i would compare.
Just a shot in the dark, but have you tried holding the power button (OSD Menu) on the Huion and changing the color mode to something different (like sRGB)?
I have the xppen 16 pro gen 2. This is pretty much just it's bigger brother? I love it. I don't know how Wacom even stays in business anymore. Wouldn't be surprised if Samsung keeps Wacon in business by licensing the tech for their devices. The other brands have mostly caught up in quality.
Hi, how long have you've been using it and do you have any issues with it so far ? Also are the colours accurate ? I am really scared to buy from any brand rn
@@evengolding5024 not OP but I've been using XPpen 16 pro gen 2 for about 3 months now and its perfect for me! The colours are really accurate to my main screen (which is really close to printing out art prints) after calibration. It was an upgrade from the Artist 2nd gen 12 inch in terms of colour accuracy, size and screen resolution for me as I felt like the pixels tended to be a little too much on the Artist 2nd gen series. hope that helps!
I have the same Tablet too and it works just fine. The colors are pretty great as well and I don't really have any complaints about it @@evengolding5024
After using Huion pro 19 for a year (bought it in october 2023 on TaoBao), I decided to use screen protector. There is some wear down from the stylus visible, but it's not critical. Overall it's a great tablet and the touch support on windows is an amazing addition to the smooth workflow. The only flaw that I found is the screen sharpness, it's a little blurry.
@@teohontech7141 Glass was scratched, in the middle part of the screen. They're not deep scratches, you can only notice it under the direct sunlight. There is one deep scratch but it was a damage from cat claw 😿
as for someone who has been drawing using ipad for 99% the most time, i def need touchscreen but the blurry issue on huion is the only reason i still havent get it..i was hoping xppen release touch screen too but their new one (24inch 2gen) also no touchscreen 😔 i do hv huion 16 tablet but in theend i rarely use it bc it doesnt hv touchscreen
Hi Teoh! Would you happen to know if there are any felt nibs compatible with the X3 Pro Slim stylus? XP-Pen doesn't seem to sell felt nibs for their slim pen (at least not in my region) so I would love to know if perhaps Huion's felt nibs would fit, or maybe some other if you happen to have some nibs available to test. I know there are differences in design but often certain nibs happen to be interchangeable between manufacturers.
Thank you for a quick reply! Although, certain nibs are in fact interchangeable since they all use similar designs and it often happens two or more companies manufacture exact same nib. Such as Xencelabs' being compatible with Wacom's standard nibs and I know a few other were compatible too. Was hoping you could test (if you happen to still have both at hand) if Huion's felt nibs fit XP-Pen's X3 Pro Slim since they happen to use same nib design but exact dimensions may or may not differ. Thanks anyway. 😄
Looks like one has to make a decision: More sharpness of the display in the XPPen vs. better pen technology and performance of the Huion. Question is: will slightly more wobble in the XPPen make itself felt while working with it?
Thanks for the review! May be a while until I get a larger pen display, but have began to inform myself. Both seem nice with their pros and cons. However strange, and rather poor, that both market the P3 coverage as being 98% while it’s as “low” as just 83-85%. You seem to know what you are doing. But I was thinking, could this possible be due to some setting or calibration reading error? Sometimes it seems like calibrators or settings either restrict readings or usage of the full gamut. AdobeRGB coverage also was a few % less.
Not uncommon for colour support to be less than advertised unless it's from a company that is well known for colour accuracy. Measured brightness for such pen displays is also consistently lower by 10-20% compared to advertised and I've noticed this pattern for years.
If you're talking about USB-C, you can just get any USB-C cable that mentions video support. For the 3-to-1 cable (replacement), you need to get it from the company.
Thanks, yeah USB-C. Don't really use USB-C that much so mostly wondering if Amper/Voltage compatibility matters (would hate if it were to melt the slot or something). But thinking about it, if it's just an extension of the 3-in-1 it'll pass through whatever goes through the 3-in-1 first so it shouldn't matter as long as minimum requirements are met (4k and probably 10Gbs+ data bandwidth)
Both tablets have similar features but I gotta say, XP-Pen is much better for value for money and comes with additional software if you really need. PS. It has caught my attention that there's a V2 version of an old Artist 13.3 Pro so i'd appreciate if you have to review it.
These two are 60Hz. For a good idea how 165Hz drawing looks and feels, look at Tyler Edlin review’s line art section. ruclips.net/video/GFXXdc7_uwA/видео.htmlsi=ct5XnhBz4ZcfJDgO I don’t see improvement with latency. So it’s just the animation of the line appearing and chasing the pen tip that is smoother.
@@teohontech7141 How about if we exclude money from the equation? That is to say, is XPPen's clarity so much better that you'll still choose it if both were priced the same? Meanwhile, I had a thought - is the softness more like real life? As in, if we draw on a sheet of paper in real life, we can't see "pixels" obviously. Everything would have an element of softness. Would you say that's how it feels with the Huion? And that we are erroneously comparing sharpness of a pixel-perfect screen and expecting to see those same blocks, clearly defined pixels, in something that is more organic such as drawing? Additionally, I'm sure using the zoom tool we can eventually blow up each pixel to whatever size we want and it'll look "sharp" again, yeah?
@@emar779 If the Huion display's resolution is just 1080P for example, the chunky pixels will have soft edges due to that matte surface. The chunky pixels obviously are squares with hard edges, but it's because the display makes the edges look softer. Some people may mind, some may not mind.
I have huion and I got it for touch - after using ipad I don't think I could without it. As for XP - it looks nice, but I would not get it- USB s on the top are the dealbreaker, as I keep my Huion upside down to get higher angle.
I had the Huion Kamvas 16 2.5K, and the protective film made a very annoying and sparkly effect. I didn't see this in either of the displays in the video. Can you confirm the 16 2.5K has terrible sparkly effect, while these two do not?
@teohontech7141 xppen artist pro 24 gen 2 165hz, is it okay to choose a 2.5K screen over a 4K? because I'm looking for content that compares the sharpness of the screens between the two but there isn't any, like the sharpness comparison in your content here
Guessing is the same panel and they just implemented their digitizer, I think touch is too much of a bonus for the price being that close, xp pen should lower it cause right now they're like a hundred bucks apart
5:35 I own the Huion Kamvas pro 19 and it actually supports pass through charging for laptops.
I totally forgot about that
YEsss! the comparison i've been waiting for. Thank you for this...
Wooow! Awesome Review!
These side-by-side comparison videos are definitely the best and most helpful!
Thank you so much, Teoh!
Congrats! Amazing work!
Thank you for doing the pen tilt compensation test!
I really like your reviews because you take such care in showing the drawing experience itself. The strokes, the diagonal lines, the dots, joining separate lines and all these tests you do are very valuable information. Thank You!
Seeing your tests of these two models side-by-side makes all the difference.
What did you think of the texture of the screens of each of them, Teoh?
Texture on both is quite similar
@@teohontech7141 Great! Thank you very much for your reply.
Great review, as usual Teoh. I have the Huion Kanvas 19 4k and it is excellent. It is my first pen monitor, so I have nothing else to compare. It works perfectly, the lines are great, the colors are wonderful and the touch capabilities are perfect for me.
I had bought the Kamvas 19, noticed a sale on the XPPen 19 and ended up saving $300 and returning the Kamvas. The Kamvas screen was a deal breaker being too blurry for me, but the bezels were smaller and the build quality was a bit better on the accessories like the drawing glove and pencil case. However, the software and keybindings with the bluetooth pads i found to be frustrating and not intuitive in comparison to XPPen. I also didn't find myself needing the touch, and I come from drawing on an iPad and this being my first pen tablet.
Thanks for this! I have the Huion 19 14k and while I learned to live with it, it had some quirks that needed getting used to. The lines on my standard pen were badly wobbly- apparently the pen was faulty out of the box. Luckily I bought it from a physical store and could claim warranty. But even now, with Mac from 2017 running Monterey, the pen was giving me horseshoe strokes ( the hooks at the end of each stroke, yes?). Had to switch to my Windows computer to get decent functioning strokes.
Now on Windows: Even more annoying, sometimes tapping the screen with the pen nib won't register as a mouse press- I have to default to a mouse to click on something. Also, the screen feels super saturated, I'm not getting accurate colors on my screen.
The final thing that bothers me about the Huion is that it's fuzzy and feels dim...not at all what I expected from a 4k display. That pop-up pen menu also irritates me! I don't know how to disable it (I may need to go into the drivers again). And speaking of which...the drivers were a pain to install on the Mac!
I was upgrading from a first edition Huion Kamvas 22 Pro, which was only FHD but was wonderfully bright and had great color saturation.
If you're using Mac, the fuzzy-ness could due to MacOS's inability to handle UI scaling properly. You can install BetterDisplay app to handle the UI scaling instead.
github.com/waydabber/BetterDisplay
this is exactly what I needed, thank you!
Can only speak for Kamvas 19 pro which i got yesterday at a ridiculous bargain on Black friday(week in europe). I'm not going back to Wacom. Had a cintiq 22 before.It's like moving forward 8-10 years in terms of technology and quality. This review is very accurate in my experience too. Only thing i was worried about was the blurriness which honestly.. is not a big deal at all. I can't notice it unless i put my eye very close to the screen. Great product. Not sure if Wacom can even compete anymore in the low / mid segment.
My wacom 22 pro blows this 60hz piece of copycat out of water. This is not even on the same league of wacom .
@@dhimankalita1690 for triple the price, i would've cried like a bitch if it didn't. But i presume you have used the Huion? I've only used the Cintiq 22 none pro one with pro pen2 and the Huion wins over that one. But that tablet uses very old technology but since they are roughly in the same price range, those are the ones i would compare.
@@nelyrions1838how much did you get it for? I am also in Europe and looking to buy one for my daughter.
Where did you get the deal, if I may ask?
Just a shot in the dark, but have you tried holding the power button (OSD Menu) on the Huion and changing the color mode to something different (like sRGB)?
Definitely the best Video Review!!!
Thanks!!!
I have the xppen 16 pro gen 2. This is pretty much just it's bigger brother? I love it. I don't know how Wacom even stays in business anymore. Wouldn't be surprised if Samsung keeps Wacon in business by licensing the tech for their devices. The other brands have mostly caught up in quality.
Hi, how long have you've been using it and do you have any issues with it so far ? Also are the colours accurate ? I am really scared to buy from any brand rn
@@evengolding5024 not OP but I've been using XPpen 16 pro gen 2 for about 3 months now and its perfect for me! The colours are really accurate to my main screen (which is really close to printing out art prints) after calibration. It was an upgrade from the Artist 2nd gen 12 inch in terms of colour accuracy, size and screen resolution for me as I felt like the pixels tended to be a little too much on the Artist 2nd gen series. hope that helps!
I have the same Tablet too and it works just fine. The colors are pretty great as well and I don't really have any complaints about it @@evengolding5024
Thanks, very helpful comparison 👏
After using Huion pro 19 for a year (bought it in october 2023 on TaoBao), I decided to use screen protector. There is some wear down from the stylus visible, but it's not critical. Overall it's a great tablet and the touch support on windows is an amazing addition to the smooth workflow. The only flaw that I found is the screen sharpness, it's a little blurry.
You mean there are scratches on the glass? Or maybe it's the plastic that's deposited on the matte surface?
@@teohontech7141 Glass was scratched, in the middle part of the screen. They're not deep scratches, you can only notice it under the direct sunlight. There is one deep scratch but it was a damage from cat claw 😿
@@greykun just use the felt nibs
@@greykun I heard the screen is blurry . Is it true?
@@dhimankalita1690 it's a bit blurry because of the anti-glare glass coating. I barely notice it, text is not very sharp if you look at it closely
as for someone who has been drawing using ipad for 99% the most time, i def need touchscreen but the blurry issue on huion is the only reason i still havent get it..i was hoping xppen release touch screen too but their new one (24inch 2gen) also no touchscreen 😔 i do hv huion 16 tablet but in theend i rarely use it bc it doesnt hv touchscreen
Oh my Lord! They're here already!
When will there be a test on XP-Pen 24 Pro 2nd gen ? I'm waiting for it from you😊
@8:09 very useful thank you! the real-world sense of PPI (sharpness of the screen) is often overlooked in reviews, glad you showed this comparison
The clarity of xppen compare to Huion at 8:10 say it all. Such a dealbreaker.
Thank you for this comparison!😺Now I know which display I need to update to
Which are you getting?
@ I have old huion kamvas pro 16. now I realized that it's not worth changing the brand. I think I'll buy a huion with a 19 large touchscreen.
Great review and comparison Teoh! What about parallax? From the video XP pen seems to be slightly better...
Parallax not really an issue. If parallax exists, it will be difficult to join lines properly.
Slightly higher line quality and color accuracy from the huion, that's an easy winner for me.
Thanks for your videos Teoh!
as expected. xp pen is usually the 3rd place bronze medallist
But blur 4k presentation. such a dealbreaker.
should have compare with Wacom's Cintiq Pro 16 refresh as well for the ultimate pentech comparison
Thank you for the amazing comparison! 💛 Do you know - does the Huion Kamvas Pro 24 (4K) have the same display blurriness issue as 19 pro?
I don’t remember it being as much as compared to the 19
@@teohontech7141 thank you so much for the quick reply! 💛
Hi Teoh!
Would you happen to know if there are any felt nibs compatible with the X3 Pro Slim stylus?
XP-Pen doesn't seem to sell felt nibs for their slim pen (at least not in my region) so I would love to know if perhaps Huion's felt nibs would fit, or maybe some other if you happen to have some nibs available to test.
I know there are differences in design but often certain nibs happen to be interchangeable between manufacturers.
Pen nibs from different companies are not interchangeable. You have to contact XPPen to see what they say.
Thank you for a quick reply!
Although, certain nibs are in fact interchangeable since they all use similar designs and it often happens two or more companies manufacture exact same nib. Such as Xencelabs' being compatible with Wacom's standard nibs and I know a few other were compatible too.
Was hoping you could test (if you happen to still have both at hand) if Huion's felt nibs fit XP-Pen's X3 Pro Slim since they happen to use same nib design but exact dimensions may or may not differ.
Thanks anyway. 😄
Looks like one has to make a decision: More sharpness of the display in the XPPen vs. better pen technology and performance of the Huion. Question is: will slightly more wobble in the XPPen make itself felt while working with it?
The xppen wobble is not really noticeable while drawing
@@teohontech7141 What is your impression: is line wobble in the Surface Pro/ Laptop Studio stronger?
@@teohontech7141 Just compared your review of the Surface Pro 11, and the line jitter seems definitely more noticeable there.
Can stabilizer on Photoshop/csp fix the slightly wobble issue?
Yes, at the expense of adding more latency
Hi Teoh, will you review the XP pen artist pro 24 gen 2, 4k and 165 Hz? I hope you do.
I'll review the 4K version
@@teohontech7141 nice! Thanks!
Thanks for the review! May be a while until I get a larger pen display, but have began to inform myself. Both seem nice with their pros and cons. However strange, and rather poor, that both market the P3 coverage as being 98% while it’s as “low” as just 83-85%. You seem to know what you are doing. But I was thinking, could this possible be due to some setting or calibration reading error? Sometimes it seems like calibrators or settings either restrict readings or usage of the full gamut. AdobeRGB coverage also was a few % less.
Not uncommon for colour support to be less than advertised unless it's from a company that is well known for colour accuracy. Measured brightness for such pen displays is also consistently lower by 10-20% compared to advertised and I've noticed this pattern for years.
@ Thanks! Colour coverage is important for my use. Although with a Delta E as low as mentioned, colour accuracy seems to be quite good on average.
With this video I convince myself I don't need it. I prefer using a non display tablet (any brand if work). Thanks for the great revieW!
is it only the
Kamvas pro 19 that is a touchscreen or are there other Huion devices that have this functionality?
So far only this for pen display. The portable Kamvas Studio 16 is a Windows tablet.
Hey teoh in my country both xp pen deco L and huion inspiory 2 L goes for the same price which is better overall?
Hey Teoh, if I were to upgrade the cable what cable specs should I look for?
If you're talking about USB-C, you can just get any USB-C cable that mentions video support.
For the 3-to-1 cable (replacement), you need to get it from the company.
Thanks, yeah USB-C. Don't really use USB-C that much so mostly wondering if Amper/Voltage compatibility matters (would hate if it were to melt the slot or something).
But thinking about it, if it's just an extension of the 3-in-1 it'll pass through whatever goes through the 3-in-1 first so it shouldn't matter as long as minimum requirements are met (4k and probably 10Gbs+ data bandwidth)
@@don-dori Huion has provided the 3-to-1 cable and a 65W charger, so you can use those.
Both tablets have similar features but I gotta say, XP-Pen is much better for value for money and comes with additional software if you really need.
PS. It has caught my attention that there's a V2 version of an old Artist 13.3 Pro so i'd appreciate if you have to review it.
what's better huion kamvas 16 or 16 pro not the 2.5 k or xp pen artist 16 2nd gen?
What is the refresh rate on both displays? Would prefer to draw on 120hz or above.
These two are 60Hz.
For a good idea how 165Hz drawing looks and feels, look at Tyler Edlin review’s line art section.
ruclips.net/video/GFXXdc7_uwA/видео.htmlsi=ct5XnhBz4ZcfJDgO
I don’t see improvement with latency. So it’s just the animation of the line appearing and chasing the pen tip that is smoother.
Hi Teoh, which one do you think is better? If it’s just you buying.
I go with xppen because it’s cheaper and I don’t really need the touchscreen
@@teohontech7141 How about if we exclude money from the equation? That is to say, is XPPen's clarity so much better that you'll still choose it if both were priced the same?
Meanwhile, I had a thought - is the softness more like real life? As in, if we draw on a sheet of paper in real life, we can't see "pixels" obviously. Everything would have an element of softness. Would you say that's how it feels with the Huion? And that we are erroneously comparing sharpness of a pixel-perfect screen and expecting to see those same blocks, clearly defined pixels, in something that is more organic such as drawing?
Additionally, I'm sure using the zoom tool we can eventually blow up each pixel to whatever size we want and it'll look "sharp" again, yeah?
@emar779
If your situation allows it, you might be better off getting both and returning the one you dislike.
@@emar779 If the Huion display's resolution is just 1080P for example, the chunky pixels will have soft edges due to that matte surface. The chunky pixels obviously are squares with hard edges, but it's because the display makes the edges look softer.
Some people may mind, some may not mind.
@@teohontech7141 thanks. BTW, when you did your review of the Kamvas 19, did you have any UI scaling on?
I have huion and I got it for touch - after using ipad I don't think I could without it. As for XP - it looks nice, but I would not get it- USB s on the top are the dealbreaker, as I keep my Huion upside down to get higher angle.
Is it stable to put it upside down?
@ yes, unless you have a tendency to lean on the tablet a lot.
is the 27 Huion screen also "soft" or it's just the 19 model?
I've not tested the 27-inch before I don't know
I had the Huion Kamvas 16 2.5K, and the protective film made a very annoying and sparkly effect. I didn't see this in either of the displays in the video. Can you confirm the 16 2.5K has terrible sparkly effect, while these two do not?
There's still the sparkly effect, but not that obvious compared to that you can find on a screen protector.
In your opinion, which is better to choose between 19 inches and 24 inches?
Depends on your table space. If you are using it as a main display, maybe better to get larger?
@teohontech7141 xppen artist pro 24 gen 2 165hz, is it okay to choose a 2.5K screen over a 4K? because I'm looking for content that compares the sharpness of the screens between the two but there isn't any, like the sharpness comparison in your content here
@ 2.5K with 24 inch is still sharp enough for me. I don't mind that personally.
@@teohyc well, your answer is very helpful in convincing me to choose, thank you very much
Guessing is the same panel and they just implemented their digitizer, I think touch is too much of a bonus for the price being that close, xp pen should lower it cause right now they're like a hundred bucks apart
"Do both Huion and XP-Pen support and connect to the new iPad Pro M4 with USB-C to USB-C? Has anyone tried this?"
iPad will work just like it's connected to any external non-touchscreen monitor.
iPad does not support touchscreen on external monitors.
@teohontech7141 "I see. So for now, only Samsung DeX supports touchscreen on an external monitor/huion
Huion RDS 220 is a good tablet but looks like noone have bought it
That’s sold only in limited regions
You never touched both
You can search for my full reviews for these two on RUclips
I have used two months and I want to say that this is the worst product ever I have. Don't buy it ❌❌❌
What happened?
Whatever sinophobe! Go back worshipping US occupied country called Japan with its fascist Goverment and where Wacom comes from.