@@htsunmiku I've had ipads with 60 and 120 hz screens and would never be able to tell while drawing, touch and clean lines with no wobble are a much bigger deal
@@htsunmiku What are you both talking about, both oled and refresh rate are a big deal, as well as multi-touch. Unless you don't care about color accuracy and efficiency.
I bought one and returned it. Honestly the screen isn’t that great there is a lot of “noise” on it almost as if there was a noise filter, it’s kinda like the same when you have an iPad with a paper like screen and personally it gives me headaches. I was determined to test it nonetheless but honestly if you have been a user of Wacom pens you will be extremely disappointed, the tip is shaky... only good thing was the customer support. IMO one shouldn’t buy this device, if you want a big screen I’d go with the Cintiq pro 16 or Samsung galaxy tab s9 ultra. You can get a much better device at this price today
You can go with Xppen 24 pro gen 2 my friend, choose the screen with 2.5 k and you will get a high refresh rate screen. For the 4k one, I think it’s still locked at 60Hz
I dislike the nib unstability so I wish you'd cover which other pens are compatible with this tablet I hope huion ones are because their nibs are so perfectly stable
I have a question, my laptop is very slow but i want a screen graphics tablet but since the laptop is laggy and when i try to draw its slow af so will the tablet be affected? Or is it like its own thing with no lag? Like a second screen type thing?
It really depends on how slow your laptop is. Generally speaking, whatever lag the pen has will come from the pen display itself and not the computer, because the pen just works like a mouse.
Not sure if it's a downside but it would be a bonus to have VESA mount. Even with a VESA arm mount, the pen display will have to rest against some support while drawing.
Thanks for the review! It's obvious they've put quite some effort into attention to detail and I'm happy to see that. But regarding the pen, seeing other reviews of this and other pens too, like XPP's, I think they're all sharing the same pen which is why they seem to have similar wobble (I think Huion has moved on which is why their pen is so good now). But the biggest turn off for me is OLED. It will 100% get burn-in very quickly. It's unavoidable, it's just physics of this technology. Drawing means UI is up for a long time and that will be the first to burn in. Then there's the white canvas. It's a bit ironic that it can reach such high brightness, which is cool, but that's even worse for an OLED (and OLEDs require more power for the same brightness level relative to LED). The brighter it is, the faster it'll burn-in. Since OLEDs are organic, even if you can use it at low brightness and extend its life, again, being organic means it's still degrading while it's powered, so the brightness will also go down over its life. I'd be surprised if it lasts more than a couple years without some kind of burn-in appearing, where tablets like these are meant to be used for a long, long time and you expect to keep one for at least 5 years. So IMO OLEDs are a really bad idea. They haven't mentioned any special tech used for OLEDs that would allegedly keep it performing for years, so we can't assume they're using anything but what they can source. So I hope they can upgrade their pen and definitely release a version without OLED along with slightly bigger sizes as 16 inches tends to get a bit cramped (at least for me). Honestly, mini or the future micro LED can't come fast or cheap enough lol.
Agree, I was considering getting this one as I already have a xencelabs pen tablet that I love, but the fact that it’s OLED really put me off and ended up getting the xppen 19. If it wasn’t for the OLED screen, I would’ve definitely bought it
Unfortunately I usually don't have that much time with review units so can't test this for OLED burn in. I personally still prefer LCD though not because of OLED burn in issues, but I just find LCDs easier/pleasing(?) to look at and they look better at lower brightness, and of course are more affordable. There are however many OLED fans that always go "OLED is more superior than LCD" in the comments section all the time. Regarding OLED burn in, here's how the problem can be minimised according to the company: "Nonetheless, to minimize the risk of burn-in, there are some simple steps you can take. This includes using a mix of content at full screen (as most people do) and performing regular pixel refreshes. More specifically: 1.Mix Up Content: Avoid displaying static images for long periods. Use different applications and content to prevent prolonged exposure to the same elements. 2.Screensavers: Enable screensavers or set your monitor to turn off after a period of inactivity. 3.Brightness and Contrast: Lower brightness and contrast settings can reduce the risk of burn-in. 4.Use Taskbars Wisely: If you have a taskbar, consider auto-hiding it or moving it to different screen positions occasionally. 5.Avoid Max Brightness for Extended Periods: High brightness levels increase the risk of burn-in."
@@teohontech7141 yea I think LCD looks more pleasing because OLED have a different pixel layout which looks fine for media, but for text and lines, it ends up introducing a weird blur or fuzziness. I think that's what you mean, right?
Amazing review, very detailed, I like the unboxing experience, it looks so expensive.
For the price I'd take the huion 19 everytime over this tbh
when huion do 120hz i'm upgrading
@@htsunmiku I've had ipads with 60 and 120 hz screens and would never be able to tell while drawing, touch and clean lines with no wobble are a much bigger deal
@@ragecandy oh fr? hm. then maybe i'll just get huion 19.
Oled doesn't seem that big a deal either. prob just better to get a high spec second screen.
@@htsunmiku
What are you both talking about, both oled and refresh rate are a big deal, as well as multi-touch.
Unless you don't care about color accuracy and efficiency.
@@Gatitasecsii buy the smaller one with no touchscreen and wobbly pen that's also more expensive then 🤷
Great, I have been waiting for this one. Please do review on bigger one!!!
Ever do a review on lenovo legion y700 with pen? Or red magic nova tablet with pen?
I bought one and returned it. Honestly the screen isn’t that great there is a lot of “noise” on it almost as if there was a noise filter, it’s kinda like the same when you have an iPad with a paper like screen and personally it gives me headaches. I was determined to test it nonetheless but honestly if you have been a user of Wacom pens you will be extremely disappointed, the tip is shaky...
only good thing was the customer support.
IMO one shouldn’t buy this device, if you want a big screen I’d go with the Cintiq pro 16 or Samsung galaxy tab s9 ultra. You can get a much better device at this price today
Looking forward to 20-22 inch 120hz Oled pen displays. Great to see tech is finally moving forward!😀
Probably gonna be crazy expensive
Of course, but at least the Wacom prices will make sense then.
You can go with Xppen 24 pro gen 2 my friend, choose the screen with 2.5 k and you will get a high refresh rate screen. For the 4k one, I think it’s still locked at 60Hz
Looks like a fantastic tablet and it has Linux support to boot. I'd probably replace my Cintiq 16 Pro with this if it wasn't still mostly functional.
What are the advantages of Linux boot support?
I think he just means there's Linux driver, not that the pen display can actually boot Linux. There's no OS in the pen display.
@@achmadzainullah4867 Yeah, I was talking about Linux drivers/support like Teoh said.
I dislike the nib unstability so I wish you'd cover which other pens are compatible with this tablet
I hope huion ones are because their nibs are so perfectly stable
Pens from pen displays are usually not interchangeable
I have a question, my laptop is very slow but i want a screen graphics tablet but since the laptop is laggy and when i try to draw its slow af so will the tablet be affected? Or is it like its own thing with no lag? Like a second screen type thing?
It really depends on how slow your laptop is. Generally speaking, whatever lag the pen has will come from the pen display itself and not the computer, because the pen just works like a mouse.
These tablets work as a second monitor so if your laptop is lagging it will lag on the monitor as well
no VESA mount is disappointing
Not sure if it's a downside but it would be a bonus to have VESA mount.
Even with a VESA arm mount, the pen display will have to rest against some support while drawing.
Thanks for the review!
It's obvious they've put quite some effort into attention to detail and I'm happy to see that. But regarding the pen, seeing other reviews of this and other pens too, like XPP's, I think they're all sharing the same pen which is why they seem to have similar wobble (I think Huion has moved on which is why their pen is so good now).
But the biggest turn off for me is OLED. It will 100% get burn-in very quickly. It's unavoidable, it's just physics of this technology. Drawing means UI is up for a long time and that will be the first to burn in. Then there's the white canvas. It's a bit ironic that it can reach such high brightness, which is cool, but that's even worse for an OLED (and OLEDs require more power for the same brightness level relative to LED). The brighter it is, the faster it'll burn-in. Since OLEDs are organic, even if you can use it at low brightness and extend its life, again, being organic means it's still degrading while it's powered, so the brightness will also go down over its life. I'd be surprised if it lasts more than a couple years without some kind of burn-in appearing, where tablets like these are meant to be used for a long, long time and you expect to keep one for at least 5 years. So IMO OLEDs are a really bad idea.
They haven't mentioned any special tech used for OLEDs that would allegedly keep it performing for years, so we can't assume they're using anything but what they can source.
So I hope they can upgrade their pen and definitely release a version without OLED along with slightly bigger sizes as 16 inches tends to get a bit cramped (at least for me).
Honestly, mini or the future micro LED can't come fast or cheap enough lol.
Agree, I was considering getting this one as I already have a xencelabs pen tablet that I love, but the fact that it’s OLED really put me off and ended up getting the xppen 19. If it wasn’t for the OLED screen, I would’ve definitely bought it
Unfortunately I usually don't have that much time with review units so can't test this for OLED burn in. I personally still prefer LCD though not because of OLED burn in issues, but I just find LCDs easier/pleasing(?) to look at and they look better at lower brightness, and of course are more affordable.
There are however many OLED fans that always go "OLED is more superior than LCD" in the comments section all the time.
Regarding OLED burn in, here's how the problem can be minimised according to the company:
"Nonetheless, to minimize the risk of burn-in, there are some simple steps you can take. This includes using a mix of content at full screen (as most people do) and performing regular pixel refreshes. More specifically:
1.Mix Up Content: Avoid displaying static images for long periods. Use different applications and content to prevent prolonged exposure to the same elements.
2.Screensavers: Enable screensavers or set your monitor to turn off after a period of inactivity.
3.Brightness and Contrast: Lower brightness and contrast settings can reduce the risk of burn-in.
4.Use Taskbars Wisely: If you have a taskbar, consider auto-hiding it or moving it to different screen positions occasionally.
5.Avoid Max Brightness for Extended Periods: High brightness levels increase the risk of burn-in."
@@teohontech7141 yea I think LCD looks more pleasing because OLED have a different pixel layout which looks fine for media, but for text and lines, it ends up introducing a weird blur or fuzziness. I think that's what you mean, right?
@ It could be that. Bur for me, it's the contrast that does not look good at low brightness
@@teohyc That's true. BTW, I'm curious, what's your actual primary pen tablet? Or are you reviewing so many that at this point there is none lol
Hello. Thanks for the video. I would like to buy this. Can you change the language? (German) Best regards