Where I hunt in Wisconsin when I bump a buck the try and make a J or C to double back. The C arc is usually a couple hundred yards to a mile in length. They usually end up within a couple hundred yards to a 1/4 mile of where you bump them ideally where they have a view of the bed they were in. Just my experience in a 75% woods 25% Ag field.
First big snow storm of the year here in mid michigan, absolutely gorgeous evening hunt right now, fingers crossed a monster comes by during shooting light haha.
With all that being said, I’ve bumped bucks while climbing that were bedded close. They never come back 😂 I have bumped bucks while walking and had at least some buck come into the same spot later that day.
I’m new to hunting so I don’t know, but a lot of people think you can “blow up” spots. Sometimes research has flaws that are not immediately apparent. I’m curious about this one
It depends on whether they are truly wild deer or half tamed farm deer. Bump a mature buck on public he's leaving the country. Even the does on public here are gone after the first few weeks of firearms.
I’m confused didn’t they only collar does? You guys are talking about gps studies and bucks but he said they didn’t have any bucks collared, so what does that have to do with bumping a buck? I don’t have a degree in college but I do know does and bucks don’t act the same.
Yall got a picture of GA on the wall what about some "data" from GA? Have nice 10 point on one of two cameras almost every night, 10 pm hour and 5 am hour. Sometimes he's on the same camera both times sometimes he's at one one time and the other the other time. This past November the 13th he showed up on one camera where i sit the most about 45 minutes after daylight (I used to take the first two weeks of November off to hunt but at a fairly new job so building up my vacation time) and of course I was at work. Even before bow season started he was nocturnal all the time. So what's up with that?
This winter work backwards from your camera and place a few cameras at different trails, scrapes, or pinches he might come from. He's either bedded farther away and your just to far out from him or he's staying in a safe spot until closer to dark. Either way with the extra info you can set up on him next year if you don't get him this year
Southern NYS private land vey little hunting pressure our bucks disappear become nocturnal or where ever they go from Nov 19 - Dec 10 all by themselves, Its like there is no deer in the woods. What's up with that.
Shifting back to there hidy holes to rest and eat to gear up for second rut, most deer anyway in KY most are doing this now, I had a giant 10 show up Nov 29th and he has not been there all of Oct and Nov that I have seen but I had him all last Dec and Jan. So I'm guessing I'm in his after rut spot! It's thick, steep and loaded with acorns and very few other deer, I probably have more bucks there than does and it's very low pressure so it's probably his winter sanctuary, he's at least 6 yrs old. The other bucks have been there and never left but not him, but they are young deer.
On half tamed farm deer yes i can see this. However, fully mature deer on public land wouldnt survive to get big by coming back to an area they keep seeing danger. All of these studies are done on farms where they are fed etc.
Actually, these studies were conducted on public ground in North Georgia, and a parcel of private land in South Carolina that was being heavily dog hunted. There are more details on that in the full episode!
I’ve walked miles of different terrain on central FL public land and have yet to bump or see a deer… Any pointers or studies on FL deer to look into would be greatly appreciated.
That's wild, my first time out I'm ohio I was sittin on a log scoping things out. Bumped one out of a bush about 20 yards from me. Was cool as hell 😂, just keep at it.
This all depends on the level of "bump". If they hear you, wind you, see you, and you are walking through and bump, then this info could apply. If you "bump" a deer in a more invasive way. While hanging a set, hanging a camera, still hunting, or other ways that are depositing more volumes of scent and causing more disturbance. There is a good chance that buck wont come back. If he does hes going to be very cautious and circle downwind to make sure he knows you're not there.
Yeah. I'm worried my target buck is dead. Pretty sure I bumped him a week ago and he was a camera princess until then. In 2 years have never gone more than 3 days without a pic. I have records from the unit that one that big was not signed in.. but it could have been snuck out or wounded 😢
Well here is something that's happened twice now two years in a row. OK I'm hunting 40 acres 5 big bucks and lots of does on camera daily. Me and my brother bow hunt once and shoot one of the bucks. We go in and recover the buck. From that day on no more bucks and rarely a doe? It's the craziest thing. We get one shot and that's it
@@americanhunteroutdoors8718 did you still have the camera up? Did they go nocturnal? I’m curious the extent that they can communicate danger to each other.
I bumped a buck on a drive and pushed him west a half a mile and he came back around with me tracking him. I jumped him again shot him in the front leg. I then tracked him a 2 more miles and then lost his track in the dark. Then I was lost in the dark for hours. The next after noon we drove the same area and shot this buck with in yards of where I bumped the day before. My uncle shot him ! I was pushing him again ! True story on Neebish island Michigan. We have 1000 acres on the south end with it being a hunting club.
What do your studies say my chances are of shooting two archery state records and the P&Y World Record? I’ve already got a bunch of other records. I’m really good. Trust me. Very skilled. I find big deer tracks and they take me to the big bucks. I just want to know if it’s statistically possible.
If they actually wanted you to fill tags, we wouldn't have endless rules and nonsense. WA they allow you to hunt in units that don't have the game you're hunting. Ones that do, it's special draw for 15 to 20 years before you can have a chance at actually having a chance.
I live in an area in Arkansas with EXTREME dog pressure during modern gun season. I bow hunt exclusively so it's very frustrating if you don't get a nice buck before gun starts. I have however, noticed that the bedding areas I hunt before the dogs get going still contain deer after being flushed by dogs day after day. They're much more edgy and mostly nocturnal but they are still there
@@jasonharris5276 yea. Really frustrating when your lease neighbor has thousands of acres but they release their dogs on our 80 acre property lines each opening weekend. Rough. Haha
Good information, about deer coming back. Not only do they avoid the small area. There attention Is more focused on your, movement, smell, noise
probably some of the most game changing information
Two of my biggest bucks I've got, I bumped them in the same area about a week before.
Where I hunt in Wisconsin when I bump a buck the try and make a J or C to double back. The C arc is usually a couple hundred yards to a mile in length. They usually end up within a couple hundred yards to a 1/4 mile of where you bump them ideally where they have a view of the bed they were in. Just my experience in a 75% woods 25% Ag field.
they will also typically look at the old bed where they can use their nose.
First big snow storm of the year here in mid michigan, absolutely gorgeous evening hunt right now, fingers crossed a monster comes by during shooting light haha.
In SC i have never seen a buck use the same bed more than once, deer bed all over the place!!!!
With all that being said, I’ve bumped bucks while climbing that were bedded close. They never come back 😂 I have bumped bucks while walking and had at least some buck come into the same spot later that day.
So I guess the radio collar are lying
Nothing bucks hate worse than human profiles going up and down trees.
I’m new to hunting so I don’t know, but a lot of people think you can “blow up” spots. Sometimes research has flaws that are not immediately apparent. I’m curious about this one
It depends on whether they are truly wild deer or half tamed farm deer. Bump a mature buck on public he's leaving the country. Even the does on public here are gone after the first few weeks of firearms.
It's 100 percent on whether these are half tamed farm deer or wild deer that are used to being hunted.
North Central Pennsylvania, those bucks aren't coming back for a week or more, too much mountain Laurel to hide in.
Those studys dont match to what i have experianced but it sounds good
I’m confused didn’t they only collar does? You guys are talking about gps studies and bucks but he said they didn’t have any bucks collared, so what does that have to do with bumping a buck? I don’t have a degree in college but I do know does and bucks don’t act the same.
Which explains all the hunters I've seen here I'm the comments saying once a buck is bumped he gone.
Yall got a picture of GA on the wall what about some "data" from GA?
Have nice 10 point on one of two cameras almost every night, 10 pm hour and 5 am hour. Sometimes he's on the same camera both times sometimes he's at one one time and the other the other time. This past November the 13th he showed up on one camera where i sit the most about 45 minutes after daylight (I used to take the first two weeks of November off to hunt but at a fairly new job so building up my vacation time) and of course I was at work. Even before bow season started he was nocturnal all the time. So what's up with that?
This winter work backwards from your camera and place a few cameras at different trails, scrapes, or pinches he might come from. He's either bedded farther away and your just to far out from him or he's staying in a safe spot until closer to dark. Either way with the extra info you can set up on him next year if you don't get him this year
had a big buck by public terms in WI years ago, bumped it around 10am and it came back about 3 in the afternoon.
Southern NYS private land vey little hunting pressure our bucks disappear become nocturnal or where ever they go from Nov 19 - Dec 10 all by themselves, Its like there is no deer in the woods. What's up with that.
Shifting back to there hidy holes to rest and eat to gear up for second rut, most deer anyway in KY most are doing this now, I had a giant 10 show up Nov 29th and he has not been there all of Oct and Nov that I have seen but I had him all last Dec and Jan. So I'm guessing I'm in his after rut spot! It's thick, steep and loaded with acorns and very few other deer, I probably have more bucks there than does and it's very low pressure so it's probably his winter sanctuary, he's at least 6 yrs old. The other bucks have been there and never left but not him, but they are young deer.
On half tamed farm deer yes i can see this. However, fully mature deer on public land wouldnt survive to get big by coming back to an area they keep seeing danger. All of these studies are done on farms where they are fed etc.
Actually, these studies were conducted on public ground in North Georgia, and a parcel of private land in South Carolina that was being heavily dog hunted. There are more details on that in the full episode!
yep told ya the cores are way smaller than you think
I’ve walked miles of different terrain on central FL public land and have yet to bump or see a deer… Any pointers or studies on FL deer to look into would be greatly appreciated.
That's wild, my first time out I'm ohio I was sittin on a log scoping things out. Bumped one out of a bush about 20 yards from me. Was cool as hell 😂, just keep at it.
This all depends on the level of "bump". If they hear you, wind you, see you, and you are walking through and bump, then this info could apply. If you "bump" a deer in a more invasive way. While hanging a set, hanging a camera, still hunting, or other ways that are depositing more volumes of scent and causing more disturbance. There is a good chance that buck wont come back. If he does hes going to be very cautious and circle downwind to make sure he knows you're not there.
Well I don’t know what could be more invasive than a pack of redbones chasing them for miles and the deer still bed in the same spot.
@tylertrotter2141 deer tolerate dogs more than humans
Yeah. I'm worried my target buck is dead. Pretty sure I bumped him a week ago and he was a camera princess until then. In 2 years have never gone more than 3 days without a pic. I have records from the unit that one that big was not signed in.. but it could have been snuck out or wounded 😢
I like the guy talking about doe movement, and at 1:23 "What about the bucks?" lol
Just listen a few more seconds 🥴
"We didn't have any collared but they do the same" 😂 sure
Well here is something that's happened twice now two years in a row. OK I'm hunting 40 acres 5 big bucks and lots of does on camera daily. Me and my brother bow hunt once and shoot one of the bucks. We go in and recover the buck. From that day on no more bucks and rarely a doe? It's the craziest thing. We get one shot and that's it
@@americanhunteroutdoors8718 did you still have the camera up? Did they go nocturnal? I’m curious the extent that they can communicate danger to each other.
I bumped a buck on a drive and pushed him west a half a mile and he came back around with me tracking him. I jumped him again shot him in the front leg. I then tracked him a 2 more miles and then lost his track in the dark. Then I was lost in the dark for hours. The next after noon we drove the same area and shot this buck with in yards of where I bumped the day before. My uncle shot him ! I was pushing him again ! True story on Neebish island Michigan. We have 1000 acres on the south end with it being a hunting club.
😂one of the most I inhumane hunting stories ever
I’ve seen houses being built where Buck used to be and they still try and come back there
Everything just wants to get back home.
Georgia quota hunts are like deer hunting with dogs, just stay in your stand and let the people push the deer to you.
Could you guys not use the term “rabbit hole” for a whole podcast
Doubtful
What do your studies say my chances are of shooting two archery state records and the P&Y World Record? I’ve already got a bunch of other records. I’m really good. Trust me. Very skilled. I find big deer tracks and they take me to the big bucks. I just want to know if it’s statistically possible.
Funny how people hate dog hunters. And it has no impact. WOW.
The people who hate are just jealous they suck at training dogs.😂
Might as well use night vision scopes at this point
If they actually wanted you to fill tags, we wouldn't have endless rules and nonsense. WA they allow you to hunt in units that don't have the game you're hunting. Ones that do, it's special draw for 15 to 20 years before you can have a chance at actually having a chance.
Hunting with dogs🤐🤐🤐
I don't do it, but I respect the tradition. Man and dog been hunting for a long time together.
@ i understand…
I live in an area in Arkansas with EXTREME dog pressure during modern gun season. I bow hunt exclusively so it's very frustrating if you don't get a nice buck before gun starts. I have however, noticed that the bedding areas I hunt before the dogs get going still contain deer after being flushed by dogs day after day. They're much more edgy and mostly nocturnal but they are still there
@@jasonharris5276 yea. Really frustrating when your lease neighbor has thousands of acres but they release their dogs on our 80 acre property lines each opening weekend. Rough. Haha
Running deer with dogs….I’m out.
It's fun. You should try it
Wish we could do it up North. Looks like a blast
Why not? Man hunting with Man’s best friend? Are you kidding? That’s how our earliest ancestors did it.
@dustinbernard9123 any kind of hunting is fun. A bunch of cry babies on here.
@ Running dogs for deer is disgusting. Hunt like a man and outsmart them.