Yoruichi Deserved Better
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- I wanted to talk about how the final arc completely fumbled Yoruichi's big power up moment. Kubo pushed the focus onto Urahara for some reason instead of Yoruichi, taking away the significance of Yoruichi's big moment. Let me know what you all thought of these chapters when they first came out versus how you feel about them now, I'd love to hear from you all in the comments.
also, the lack of CONSENT makes this all a million times worse. I'm incredibly disturbed by the amount of comments disregarding the lack of consent when urahara did this. i'm not changing my mind either lmao, if you dislike my criticism, stay mad bro. i don't consume media mindlessly, and occasionally enjoy critcizing the content i consume. i won't be responding to comments b/c i don't wanna fuel pointless fandom infighting that literally gets no where. y'all need to understand that people have different opinions than yours, and need to accept the fact that Bleach has flaws like any other media that exists.
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This video is so cathartic for me as someone who loved Bleach but hates the fanbase. So much of the fanbase cant handle criticism of any sort let alone from women. But man what you talk about really resonates with me. Yoruichi is one of my favorite characters ever. She was this badass sensei who was more laxed but still powerful, wise, & a true force to be reckoned with.
That she’s this major character with such power and also so freaking beautiful without her skin color being fetishized was so neat. Oh: AND SHES A GROWN WOMAN. Theres no excuse or statement shes meant to look young, she us unambiguously grown & Im here for it. Its what made Yoruichi so damn unique in addition to her being pretty quirky and also a bit imperfect. She’s so comfortable with her sexuality & beauty and just feels no shame in that.
I agree, it was an unfunny bad joke, which even Yoruichi did not want to do. The fact that she was forced to do it is wrong and messed up. Kubo was being clever, he thought I’d distract them with silliness and sexiness, so they won’t ask about her bankai., it worked for some. Bleach is targeted at tween and teenage boys. This form is something that would appeal to members of that demographic. The people disappointed are ones that expected her to be more bad a$$ than she was in the Soul Society Arc. We think of it as a crappy substitution for Bankai. Her use of it as her choice would soften the blow some if it turned out she was OP and terrifying. Cats are not unpredictable because they are out of control, they are unpredictable because they think differently so the out-of-control lightning cat thing would work better if she became rabid feral and completely uncontrollable.
The over-sexualization of the female characters in his last hurrah was ridiculous and kinda embarrassing he had to resort to such shallow effort.
@@carloskingdomh I'm not saying anything about the rest of it - it's a statement about that alone.
@@AlchemistJayBuddy,I am with you 1000% I hate it how it is done to all Shonen Girls and Women except few like Misaka and Nobara
The thing about this form is that it is meant to be a combination of two big aspects of her character (her lighting and her cat side). The unpredictability and "lack of control" that Yoruichi displays in this form is meant to symbolize the unpredictability of a cat ( as already stated in the manga) and also the unpredictability of lighting. Yoruichi herself is basically a combination of these two things that are very hard to control and predict so I think this form makes sense as it puts these two aspects of her character to light or puts them to an extreme and making her stronger in the process. In my opinion the fact that Yoruichi was able to contend with the stronger characters of the series without even using her Bankai or even her sword gives more praise to her strength than it makes her look "weaker" ( It also adds to the anticipation of when we finally see it). I feel this form was a good move and still keeps the narrative that the couple is still relatively equal in strength.( hope you read this)
It still doesn't address why did she need to be forced into doing it?
And if the form to you represents how cats can't be controlled then why can URAHARA CONTROL IT? It's just insulting fanservice from Kubo and a misstep for Yoruichi's character overall.
Well yeah but it still seems like pointless fanservice
Also because Askin in voll stern dich is oneshot by grimmjow (who is also a cat person) really makes it seem like it was useless
If they wanted to make her seem strong she should've had some armour like arrancar arc and maybe the cat form could've worked if she kept her iq
Kinda hope we get the story as it was meant to be with the new anime. Considering Kubo had the humour massively toned down for TYBW and leaving out Rukia's peach butt from that onsen episode, then I hope we get instead a Yoruichi bankai reveal.
So its not messed up to be naked infront a teenager when he's clearly uncomfortable with it, but somehow THIS pisses you off?
Lol😂😂😂
Reiatsu in bleach is tied to personality as shown whith kenpachis blood lust, Shunsuis bankai, etc. Was it over sexualized yes but what do you expect when your covered in lightning. As it was stated basic shunko (being the mixture of kido&hakudo) was extended hard to control. When uahara had her use it more than likely it was impossible for her alone to control it and the reason for her only listening to urahara was basically they're entire history together and instinctively knowing is spiritual pressure.
Reiatsu is not tied directly to personality tho. Reiatsu is spiritual pressure, more like an energy or physical force. If anything, reiryoku would be tied to ones personality since it's basically willpower or how strong/in tune one is with themselves spiritually. You're right about shikai and bankai tho as they ARE tied directly to an individual's personality, but NOT reiatsu. Ie: Aisen increased his own reiatsu by things other than the concept of "spiritual enlightenment" or whatever. His personality didn't have anything to do with that. It was his intelligence + multiple hogyoku powerups that led to that happening.
@@Pumakazi yes it is
got me sleeping when talking about representation
the whole argument that you made is just "but man in control! woman not scary!" she would have lost the fight if she didnt transform and how do you expect her to act in that form? she literally takes on the personality of a cat
urahara being the only one she listens to is the product of their longass friendship and trust that goes back hundreds of years
reiatsu could be related to personality and mental stuff, considering in the beginning of the series ichigo could sense kenpachi's killing intent through his reiatsu and fear making overall reiatsu output smaller than usual
I hate when people strawman to defend a bad idea. I love bleach but this was creepy and disappointing. The personality of the cat thing is stupid because a cat wouldnt behave like that in a fight. It was just badly done fanservice that harmed the character. Yourchi deserved her own fight and not to be controlled agianst her will
@@carloskingdomh jesus dude, she had her own autonmy taken away and sexualised in a way that made no sence.
Just to get knocked out whilst contributing nothing to defeating askin in her own fight
@@carloskingdomh It sucked and damaged her character. Now please grow up
@@spider-man300 it diddnt damaged her character at all, mature a little bit
@@spider-man300 since when yoruichi wasnt sexualized now you are complaining about that? she did contributed to defeat askin stop lying and learn to read
The general consensus I see these days is that Kubo should stick to drawing and partner up with a good writer like the Death Note team of Ohba/Obata.
Nice lie
You’re "consensus" literally doesn’t exist lol
Yeah home girl got done super dirty but honestly almost the entire female cast of Bleach got shafted big time in the final arc such as:
-Rukia being sidelined the whole arc, got one fight where Byakuya still had to come bail her out, and she had only ONE interaction with Ichigo even though their relationship is what built this manga originally. The fact that she didn't participate in the final battle against Yhwach was absolutely unacceptable(also she should've been the one to get Ichigo back on his feet after Yhwach beat him instead of Renji)
-Unohana got this epic reveal only to do absolutely nothing and get killed off to power up Kenny.
Yachiru then got retconned into Kenny's zan spirit thus becoming yet another power up for Kenny(Two female characters thrown in the trash for the sake of one overexposed male character, such masterful writing Kubo!)
-Hallibel was beaten off screen and spent the rest of the arc imprisoned. We didn't even learn what happened to her til freaking CFYOW! So much for that "Queen of Hueco Mundo" title....
-Nel showed up for a hot minute and did nothing. Ditto Riruka who was just there to fawn over Ichigo as usual.
-Nemu finally showed some initiative only to be killed off right after and then brought back as a clone as if nothing happened.
-Bambietta is pretty self explanatory to be honest. Such a waste of a potentially cool female villain. The other femritters were just waifu bait and accomplished nothing.
-Orihime and that OOC boob window dress and all the jokes about it was just cringe. She too accomplished nothing, people who act like she was usper important in the battle with Yhwach are reaching big time.
-Hinamori and Matsumoto became glorified extras despite being two of the more important lieutenants earlier in the story.
-The two zero division chicks also did jack diddly before getting killed off screen. Ok Shutara killed that one two tongued sternritter but that guy was fodder so who cares?
I always found it hilarious when people try to say Bleach does female characters right. Sure they started off decent but it wasn't anything revolutionary. And over time their portrayals got steadily worse til it finally hit rock bottom in the final arc.
PS- Yoruichi's relevance to the story got steadily reduced over time to the point that the freaking fillers gave her more to do most of the time. What a joke.
Honey you can just admit you havent seen bleach at all, no lie everything but absolutely everything you said here are lies or ignored demerit to the narrative, but i dont bother with you, you are a notorious bleach hater spreading hate in bleach videos and no one cares about you try harder honey
Yoruichi wasnt done dirty and the whole bleach female cast is exceptional cry harder
Lmao sure blocking attavks of the strongest being in bleacg and supporting ichigo is nothing shut up
translation: i havent read bleach at all
Did you even read Bleach?
Rukia did not need Byakuya's help, she literally soloed As Nodt. Byakuya only told her that her bankai is dangerous and that she needs control over it, which is something you'd expect from a family member who's an experienced war veteran. Plus Yhwach would have killed her, and Renji got no diffed by Yhwach, so he didn't do much.
Unohana had one of the coolest fights in the series, and the fight was literally to redeem herself by having Kenpachi no longer hold back. Yachiru was literally foreshadowed into being Kenpachi's Zanpakutō. The characters weren't wasted at all for a male? If anything they are well written characters that make Kenpachi free from his flaw.
Hallibel didn't do much because the Quincy wouldn't allow a hollow their natural weakness to be out and about.
Nel didn't do much because Kubo was rushed and had health issues so that's valid.
Nemu being killed makes since due to Pernida's ability. And ironically his adaptation is the exact reason he died, Nemu literally killed him. Plus Mayuri cloned her back because of his goal of making an artificial soul. He didn't want her to die just so she could grow and develop also because he loved her as a daughter in his own Mayuri like way.
The Bambeitta and femritter point makes no sense as they are side villains, they obviously won't get as much development as other villains.
Orihime is the reason Ichigo was able to fight Yhwach again. Plus I can get criticism of the fan service as it was abundant.
Hinamori and Matsumoto aren't going to do much as they are lieutenants, fighting captain class sternritters. Plus the arc was focused on developing other characters and bleach has a massive cast, so it's pretty hard to fit two more characters in an already big cast for an arc.
Kubo had health issues and was rushed so Senjumaru and Hikifune were killed off screen like Oetsu and the other guy
I agree and disagree with what you have said hhh . But saying that kubo has shifted the focus away from her to kisuke isn’t quite true cuz what yoruichi has done in ss arc was according to urahara’s plan first, second she used something KISUKE made himself so ichigo can achieve bankai ( I’m not saying that she didn’t do anything I’m just referring to the fact that the shifting focus thing isn’t quite true )I guess the focus was always there he just didn’t have much screen time as SHE did during that arc . And I guess she didn’t have much screen time afterwards bc Kubo didn’t know how to manage all those characters like bro bleach have so many characters and they are all well designed …..So I guess he didn’t how to include her in the arrancar arc first and in the last arc well he was quite doing well until her fight with askin Well this maybe unpopular op but yes forcing her to do smth she doesn’t want is not good but she should put her pride aside ( as shunsei said pride won’t save us ) and think logically how she can win that fight against askin. I love her character ofc but she isn’t perfect and again I will say that she should have won against askin at least alone using her sword that we didn’t get the chance to see her using unfortunately
Yeah she really got shafted, i hope they throw that whole fight out in the anime and have her do something else
she didnt got shafted
I liked her transformation a lot, looks both supercool and superhot
the design being a provocatively lightning-clad feline felt fitting and intentional
plus she's a girl so of course I liked seeing her be made a pet
also really cool how it plays into the general deviousness of Urahara that's been present althroughout the series (tends to get easily overlooked due to his friendly demanor and 'being on the protagonists side'), so I think you feeling icky is actually a good thing
really wanted her to win the fight though
TYBW was bad enough but when we got to the Yoruichi part I just gave up. It was cheap and dirty and didn't even make any sense. Felt like its own doujinshi. Tite Kubo does good art but he really should have gotten a writer to work with him.
LOOOL
one question when will you stop making bleach videos? cause its obvious you dont know anything about its writing
would you stop commenting? It is clear you don't know a single thing you talk about because otherwise you would have addressed the points and tried to debunk it. But since you can't do that your comment has as much meaning as your knowledge about Bleach: Nothing.
@@M3rtyville says the one who knows nothing
The worst thing is, she used to be the commander of Urahara but since they trained together she views him as an equal. But the final power up which had no build up and came out as a gag makes it look just wrong. The final arc already had too many out of nowhere unexplainable power ups that are really questionable.
- Hitsugaya becomes an adult
- Byakuya can use all Blades from Senkai to attack
- Ichigo's Bankai is his Shikai
- Yoruichi becomes a cat girl who wants to be used by Urahara
- Quincy use no weapons but have DC or Marvel type Super Powers
- Squad 0 doesn't fight like Shinigami (made a video criticizing that)
The last arc was a complete trainwreck with a lot of wasted concepts and wasted characters. I only enjoyed the first invasion, Rukia using the true might of her Zanpakuto and Renji's fight. It was not Fullbring bad but it was really annoying since we got so little content per chapter and each time it either gets dragged out or something like a big moment gets glossed over. Especially most new Bankai reveals came and in a flash like Kyoraku's which in concept may be a strong ability but how it was used felt like "Guess I used a few moves and call it a day".
The fights against the Quincy were meaningless, most of them were killed by their leader making even some of the stupid plot devices pointless such as a God Slaying Sword.
I personally still think Orihime got the worst treatment in Bleach. Build up as someone important only to be shafted and used for fan service.
you know everyhting you said is false right?
also orihime didnt got the worst treatment in bleach at all, she was never shafted and only one used for fanservice like other girls in bleach but i dont see you complaining about that
hate orihime but everything else you said just screams you didnt paid attention to the series
@@julianmaers6535 you know everything you said is false right?
also Orihime did get the worst treatment in Bleach and she got shafted by a lesser plot device.
Love how you bring up other characters into this without realizing that non of them got the build up Orihime received and besides Rukia aren't main characters.
@@chawli2782 sounds more of a reply of someone who hasn't seen Bleach himself.
Guess Hitsugaya's obvious out of nowhere transformation to an adult was just an illusion or a dream.
@@M3rtyville no the one who said nothing but lies is you.
also Orihime did not get the worst treatment in Bleach and she didnt got shafted by a lesser plot device.
Love how you bring up the fanservice stuff when im not talking about side characters that also got fanservice and even if orihime and rukia did get more plot relevance than them, orihime did got a proper development no matter how much you cope about it